Hi all I have come across a family in Eldon and Mariposa Townships,Victoria County Ontario, Canada. Father- Duncan McCuaig born Scotland Mother - Isabella McFadyen. I believe I have found her and her children on the 1881, 1891 and 1901 census. She is a widow aged 58 on the 1881 census. She was born in North Carolina.Died 1901 Children: all born in Ontario Mary born 1850-1853 depending which census you look on Duncan born 1855 Archibald born 1857 died 1924 Hugh born 1861 Janet born 1862/3 I believe she is a twin to Catherine Jane Catherine (Kate) born 1862/3. She is the only one I have found a marriage record for. she married John McMillan born 1859 son of John McMillan and Rachel McArthur. They had two children Janet Isabella born 1898 and Duncan born 1900 What I would like to find out is the names of Isabella's parents. I know there are some of you who have lots of knowledge of the North Carolina families. I would also like to find out anything about Duncan. All I know is his name and that he was born in Scotland.. Does anyone know his age, his parents, his siblings, his death or anything at all would be helpful. I wonder if possibly he could have died as early as 1863. Monta Salmon Alberta Canada

Thank you Iain for sharing your trip to Islay, having been there as resent as last August if brought back memoeries of the beautiful Isle. We attended a Sunday service in the Round Church, it was a wonderful experiance complete with the " sweeties " that were gived to the visiters as we entered. The church is especially interesting when viewed from upstairs in part of the original building. Thanks again, Margaret. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Iain Sinclair" <iain@iainsinclair.me.uk> To: <sct-islay@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 4:06 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Cruach and Corrary on Islay > Hello Deborah, > > Today, Cruach is a small number of scattered houses in farmland just > outside Bowmore which is the main town on Islay. > Corrary is a farm, also not far from Bowmore, where the Bowmore to Port > Ellen road crosses the river Laggan. 2 miles along the river is Curalach > where my Sinclair ancestors lived and worked. a few years ago I wrote a > note about my first visit to Islay. It is on Steve's website at > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/sinclair.htm It might give you > a flavour. > If you look at an OS map of Islay you will find them quite easily. > > In the time of your forebears each of these farming areas, and many > others, were worked by tenant farmers and farm labourers living in small 2 > room cottages which were very basic. Most have been demolished over the > years or had new buildings erected. There would typically have been > several families working on each farm, and many of them moved from farm to > farm, so your family living at Cruach and then Corrary would have been > quite normal. They are probably less than 2 miles apart. > > Hope this helps. > > Iain > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi all fellow McCuaig researchers I have always felt that Stewart #1 and Stewart #2 were the same person. Perhaps because I have been unable to find another Stewart McCuaig around at the same time. You will note that Stewart and Mary Campbell do not appear to be married in Sarah's death registration. This is a few years before he left for New Zealand. As for the tombstone with Stewart, John and Janet McCuaig John who died 13 Mar 1861 is the father of Stewart #1 who is also the informant on his father's death registration. Janet McCuaig (a widow married surname McMillan) died 8 Dec 1861 is the aunt of Stewart McCuaig. I believe this is also Stewart #1. He was the informant on her death registration also. She is the sister of his mother Elizabeth and they are both daughters of William McCuaig and Christian Graham. I thought I had figured out who the Stewart on the headstone is but as I am writing this I realize that I have absolutely no data on him at all. I guess that is what I get for doing my own thinking. I have no idea who he is. I wondered if he might be a brother to John. Perhaps an older brother being the reason there are no dates. This makes a lot of sense (to me) and might be good theory but I have nothing to back up the idea. I too would appreaciate it anyone out there has some information about Stewart #3, Monta Salmon Alberta, Canada

Hi Roy: My McDougall/McLugash family, originally from Islay, lived in Neilston/Barrhead and Paisley. What family are you looking for? Sue is correct, there were/are? starch mills in Paisley. Laundresses usually worked in a laundry, not at home. At home they were called washer women. Regards Janet --- Roy McMillan <rmcmilln@mts.net> wrote: > Hi Listers: > Anyone out there heard of Starch Mills, perhaps > located near Paisley Scotland. One of my family is > trying to locate McDougal's who supposedly came from > that area. > > Thanks, Roy > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Dear Jan & Jan: Some of my Islay people lived in the Neilston area for a little while. They actually married high church, Glasgow- but in the minister's house I guess. This has been a curiousity for me. Martha McNabb married Arch Currie in Nov 1867. They must have moved back to Islay quickly- their daughter was born Jan 1868. They emigrated to Ontario in 1869. Martha was listed as a farm servant at Craig of Neilston which I have kind of tracked down. I'm not sure how long she lived there and where her brother, John, was living in 1861. They're not listed with their parents in Pt Ellen. There were several John McNabb's in Glasgow in 1861. I haven't been able to find her at all. Any ideas? Martha would have been abt 21 in 1861 and and John 19. Their older brother, Colin, was living in Pt Ellen with their parents. Thanks! Carolyn

Perhaps this might be a lead.... http://www.paisley.org.uk/history/intro.php .....during the Napoleonic War, when supplies of silk thread to make heddles for the looms were scarce, the Clark brothers experimented with a cotton substitute. It proved highly successful and was also taken up by local housewives as a sewing thread superior to the older linen thread. Clarks were followed by Coats, and there can have been few seamstresses throughout the world in the last 150 years who have never used the products of one or the other of these two firms. Another process in the weaving of a shawl required the use of a starch paste to strengthen the warp. The starch was provided by the firm of Brown and Polson, who later further refined it and developed household corn flour. Good Luck Sue Visser Ontario, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy McMillan" <rmcmilln@mts.net> To: <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 9:18 PM Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] Starch Mills Hi Listers: Anyone out there heard of Starch Mills, perhaps located near Paisley Scotland. One of my family is trying to locate McDougal's who supposedly came from that area. Thanks, Roy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On Oct 1, 2006, at 18:18, Roy McMillan wrote: > Anyone out there heard of Starch Mills, perhaps located near Paisley > Scotland. One of my family is trying to locate McDougal's who > supposedly came from that area. Paisley is just outside of Glasgow. Nancy MacLarty

Hi Listers: Anyone out there heard of Starch Mills, perhaps located near Paisley Scotland. One of my family is trying to locate McDougal's who supposedly came from that area. Thanks, Roy

Thanks Loren, What you have sent is very, very helpful, now I can cross a few off the list of people I was going to check from the census'. You and Jack are way ahead of me. I have been copying all the marriage and death indexes for the names we are looking for. Then I was going to do a search on each one. Takes a while, but it saves time going back through the film over and over. I will be continuing with George 1809, kids first. And I will post what I find. Rgds, Leslie

I read the series of posts about this family and the ones who emigrated to NZ, particularly Stewart McCuaig since Stewart McCuaig is the elusive individual(s?) I've been trying to sort out for a couple of years. This information is for the All Islay McCuaigs project. The forename "Stewart" is uncommon on Islay....one in births (Stewart Fraser b 1853), 2 in deaths (again Frasers), none in marriages in either groom names or parentage. There is varied information on "Stewart" McCuaig - since the name Stewart McCuaig is unusual, assuming possible connections is reasonable. I'd appreciate input from the list. Are Stewart #1 and Stewart #2 are the same person? How does Stewart #3 fit in? Stewart #1 b 1829 is the s/o John McCuaig/McLeod and Elizabeth/Betsey McCuaig/McLeod who emigrated to NZ as outlined by Margaret Nobel's email below and other emails in the archives particularly from Ken Harrison. This Stewart McCuaig/McLeod married Elizabeth Grant in NZ. This Stewart's paternal grandmother was a Stewart. This Stewart is found with his parents & siblings in Islay 1841 census (age11) and 1851 census (age 20), Port Ellen. Stewart #2 had a child (married?) with Ann Campbell who died at 8 mos in 1860 in Islay: Kildalton 292825 Sarah McCuaig d 6 May 1860, 8 Mo, Single Father: Stewart McCuaig Mother: Ann Campbell reported by Stewart McCuaig - Father Cause :Small Pox, Port Ellen Stewart #3 is buried at Kilnaughton Cemetery,"Stewart McCuaig, burying place, farmer, Port Ellen" but no dates; also same stone there is John McCuaig d 13 Mar 1861, age 66 and Janet McCuaig d 8 Dec 1861, age 76. Thanks. Sue Visser Ontario, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rex Noble" <R.Noble@xtra.co.nz> To: <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 12:21 AM Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] John Mc Leod / McCuaig John Mc Leod, son of Malcolm McLeod & Janet Stewart B1795 Ireland D20th March 1861 Islay And Elizabeth McLeod daughter of William McLeod & Christina Graham B 1794 Islay d 11th July West Taieri, New Zealand Family of John McLeod (McCuaig & Elizabeth McLeod ( McCuaig ) Stewart McLeod. B1829 Oa Islay. D13th January 1912. East Taieri. New Zealand. M Elizabeth Grant. 29th April 1891, b 1853, d April 1934 William McLeod. B1836 Ireland. Bachelor. Malcolm McLeod, b 1835 Ireland, d 28th December 1926. m Jane Hamilton McIntosh. d 20July 1946 Thomas McLeod, b 1843, Ireland. D 30th September 1901. Bachelor Eliza McLeod. b 1844, Islay. D 11th April 1915. m Duncan Campbell. Port Ellen Islay co. Argyll. 23rd January 1862. b 12th May 1839. Islay. Malcolm and Stewart McLeod, together with their cousin Peter McLeod, sailed from Glasgow on William Rankin's famous Clipper Ship the Daniel Rankin on the 5th September 1863. It was a record breaking trip of 90 days under Captain Alexander Muller, carrying 155 passengers and cargo, which arrived in Port Chalmers on the 7th December 1863. The Daniel Rankin, a 193.3 sailing clipper of 1048 tons was wooded sheather with yellow metal, wooden masts and spars and was built to special surveys in Dumbarton, Scotland in 1858. The Centenary of the arrival of the Daniel Rankin was celebrated by descendants of the early pioneers on 31st July 1963. On that occasion, Dame Flora MacLeod of MacLeod wrote - " It is a very great occasion and I think it is a fine thing that we should be proud of our forefathers and our Clan and honour the pioneers who helped to build the great city of Dunedin and the great country of New Zealand. Scotland is indeed proud of the courageous men and women who left her shores to build the Commonwealth. Stewart Mcleod was 34 years of age when he migrated to Otago. He first worked on farms at Brighton, Kuri Bush and Taieri Mouth and later moved to Woodside, West Taieri, where for many years he was associated with his brothers Malcolm, Thomas and William in the propietorship of the Woodside Dairy Factory. He married Elizabeth Grant of Granton Farm and engaged in its management for a long period. Granton cocsisted of 160 acres of rich Taieri land and in addition more land was leased from the Shand Estate. Stewart McLeod, like many other of that ilk had a long and successful life and passed away in 1912 at the age of 83. His wife Elizabeth died on 17th April 1934 aged 81 years. At the age of 12, Malcolm left home to live with an aunt in Glasgow where he learned the trade of carpentry and building. When he arrived in Otago at the age of 28. he first worked for Mr James MacAndrew and the went to Cottesbrook and Deepdale and worked for Mr J Bruce. In company with Mr J M Samson. He later carted timber from the Rock and Pillar, through the Styx, Linnburn and over the Raggedys to the Manuherikia goldfields at Alexandra. He later took up coastal farm land at " Graybrook " Brighton.and was also engaged on bridge building on the Brighton to Taieri Mouth road. He married Jane Hamilton McIntosh at Brighton and in 1877, after farming Graybrook for several years, he bought 400 acres of " Maori Heads " tussoch and swamp fron francis McDiarmid, who had previously bought it for a Mr ward in the United kingdom. Mr Ward unfortunately died on the voyage to New Zealand and the land became known as " Wardlands". The McLeod drained, cleared and developed Wardlands tur! ning it into an excellent farm. When the McLeod cattle was driven across from Brighton to the Taieri, the bullocks made a string one mile long. Malcolm passed away at Wardlands on the 28th December 1926 aged 91 and his wife Jane on the 20th July 1946 aged 90. Both are buried at West Taieri on the knoll overlooking the land they loved so well. Thus we have another artisan who was able to successfully turn his hand to the land and achieve a reasonable degree of prosperity by dint of great endeavour in tomes which often gave mearge remuneration for hard work. Malcolm McLeod returned to Isaly in 1866 and brought back his 75 year old mother Elizabeth and his sister Eliza and her husband Duncan Campbell. >From early Census records the spelling of McLeod was in Gaelic - hence >McCuaig - and in some other instances McQuaig. The about is a copy of a small part of a booklet print in 1989 relating to the McCuaig / McLeod / Campbell Tree. It may be of interest to other McCuaig etc. and may help me in my search of family from Islay. Margaret Noble. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Wilma You must have missed the Shaw gravestones since they were recently transcribed by Roger McWee and Nigel Ruckley and are included in the Islay Cultural Database. You can access the database at http://www.finlaggan.com/ and click on "Culture". This is a pay site but well worth the fee. There is a great deal of info available on the ICD There aren't any Black gravestones at Keills as per the transcription but there is likely data available through the ICD. The following info is copyrighted so I can only give you the basic info that is found in the printed transcription "A Guide to the Old Graveyards: Keills, Kildalton, Kilmeny and Port Charlotte" Surveyed and compiled by R. McWee and N. Ruckley available through the North Carolina Scottish Heritage Society's treasurer Anne Landin, alandin@centernet.net Please note that you will get considerably more information through the ICD. John Shaw, ICD record 26829 Neil Shaw, 680 Same stone: Donald Shaw, 19931 Neil Shaw, 4159 Jessie MacPhee Shaw, 4160 Jessie Shaw, 27598 Christina Campbell Shaw, 28113 Neil Shaw, 28114 FYI - I also checked Kilmeny, Kildalton and Port Charlotte Cemetery transcriptions for Black and there weren't any. However Alexander Black's wife Barbra Livingstone Black (d1850, age 50) and son Duncan (d1854, age 22) are buried at Kilchoman Cemetery. Please consider posting your query to SCT-ISLAY list at rootsweb.com. Others on the list may be able to help you more. FYI - there are numerous Blacks and Shaws at Ted Larson's site in the BMDs http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~tlarson/bdm/ Cheerio Sue Visser Ontario, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: Wilma Reath To: genealgal2@execulink.com Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 2:36 PM Subject: Black/Shaw To Who it concern: I am looking for Black's and Shaw's that are buried at Keills Cemetery, Jura also a Archie Black buried there. I was there visiting in the summer of this year and there is no tombstone for the Blacks or Shaws. Is there a way of getting the cemetery records that shows the plots of these people. My e-mail address is reathw@wwdc.com Thank you very much. Wilma

Hello Iain Thank you for the link to your site. It was very interesting to read about your visit to Islay, it was wonderful that you found so much on such a short visit. I have not visited Islay yet but hopefully will be making my first visit soon. Debbie Iain Sinclair <iain@iainsinclair.me.uk> wrote: Hello Deborah, Today, Cruach is a small number of scattered houses in farmland just outside Bowmore which is the main town on Islay. Corrary is a farm, also not far from Bowmore, where the Bowmore to Port Ellen road crosses the river Laggan. 2 miles along the river is Curalach where my Sinclair ancestors lived and worked. a few years ago I wrote a note about my first visit to Islay. It is on Steve's website at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/sinclair.htm It might give you a flavour. If you look at an OS map of Islay you will find them quite easily. In the time of your forebears each of these farming areas, and many others, were worked by tenant farmers and farm labourers living in small 2 room cottages which were very basic. Most have been demolished over the years or had new buildings erected. There would typically have been several families working on each farm, and many of them moved from farm to farm, so your family living at Cruach and then Corrary would have been quite normal. They are probably less than 2 miles apart. Hope this helps. Iain ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Iain Many thanks for your heart warming reply. I have a sense that you have probably been researching ancestry for longer than I have and have a better sense of what is probable than I do. Responding to your points one by one, there are a couple of snippets you may be interested in: I have a TIF file of the death record for Ann McEwen age 82, widow of John McEwen, farmer, on 25th May 1902 in Laphroaig, Kildalton. If this were our Ann McEwen that would put her marriage at age 15 or 16, which seems just about possible even without any age discrepancy on the death certificate. That Ann McEwen's parents were Alexander McNiven, ploughman (deceased) and Catherine McNiven MS McIntyre (deceased). Her daughter A. Gillies signed as informant, which suggests to me that this is our Ann McEwen because daughter Ann (b November 1846) married Donald Gillies 28/10/1872. As with everything else, I'm happy to send it if you wish. Do you have a birth record for Ann McNiven / Niven? She appears age 25 on the 1841 census and 38 in 1851 - such is the female prerogative, I suppose. I believe Sarah Kennedy's parents were Lachlan Kennedy and Margaret Cameron. Do you know anything of them, or of Hugh McEwan's parents? I would love to see the photograph, likewise Alexander Sinclair's obituary, thanks for your offer. Regarding John and Anne's children including five sons, I have a TIF file of the death record for Alexander McEwan, son of John and Anne, who died at Cruach age 3 years on 20th August 1855. So he would have been born in 1851 or 1852. This would appear to be a different Alexander from the one born on 7th December 1844. I haven't found any record of the earlier Alexander's infant death but I don't suppose they would have given two living sons the same name. Perhaps this brings the count of John's sons up to four - one yet to find. The evidence I have for Annie being the illegitimate daughter of Malcolm McEwan (Elizabeth's brother) and Mary McLugash is in two parts. Firstly, Annie's marriage certificate (TIF available if you want). Annie married William Alfred Stracey on 21/03/1901 from 1085 Pollokshaws Road at age 22. She reported her father as Malcolm McEwan, Farmer (deceased) and mother as Mary McEwan MS McLugish (deceased). Although I can find no evidence of Malcolm and Mary's marriage and suspect they never did marry, I still take this as some evidence of her parents' identity. In passing, the marriage was witnessed by Agnes McEwan, whom I can't place - any thoughts? Secondly, Annie's birth certificate. A Mary McLugash gave birth to Ann McLugash at Gartmain, Kilarrow, close to Cruach, on 29/04/1877, noted as illegitimate on the certificate (TIF available). There is no mention of the father, but the names match and the dates are just a year out. I assume that Ann might well have become McEwan if she was raised by her father. John McEwan senior also describes Annie as his granddaughter in the 1891 census. I have no evidence of my Grandfather John McEwan junior's birth, which is a little frustrating. All I know is that he is listed as John McEwan senior's grandson on the 1891 census at Cruach. He could, I suppose, be the son of any of John McEwan and Ann McNiven's children. However John (b 12/04/1854) seems an unlikely father because he married and had a son John of his own around 1892. Alexander (either Alexander if there were two) seems likely to have died too young. Elizabeth is ruled out because she married in 1861, moved away and had a son John of her own in 1863. Ann is unlikely because she married Donald Gillies in 1872 and would presumably have named her children Gillies. Catherine is unlikely because she would have been approaching 50 at the time. Margaret, about whom I know nothing, is a possible mother, although she would have been in her mid forties when John was born. Most likely, it seems to me, is Malcolm, who already had one illegitimate daughter Annie, and who was to have another by Marion McGibbon in 1885, although he did then marry Marion in 1886 and have two more children by her. Of course Marion could have been the mother, but that would make it hard to explain why she abandoned John but kept her other children when she remarried following Malcolm's untimely death falling from a cart in 1893. Can you (or Toni) say any more about the name-change from McNokaird to Sinclair? They sound so linguistically remote. When did it happen, and why? No, I'm afraid I haven't been to Islay, although I would love to. I lived in Scotland for some years without ever realising that I had Islay roots. Now I am in England the journey is that little bit more inconvenient, yet I will do it soon. Now that one of my daughters has fallen in love with the malts I feel obliged to take her to the home of the best. You may like to know that my supposed Grandfather John McEwan (St. Clair) had three sons Anthony (my father) born 1917, John born 1919 and Alan born 1924, all of whom survived the war to have families. Is there any accepted way of exchanging family tree details on this list - GEDCOM or PAF files perhaps? I'd be glad to share whatever I have. Thanks again for your generous help. Ashley Ashley St. Clair -----Original Message----- From: sct-islay-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sct-islay-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Iain Sinclair Sent: 29 September 2006 17:35 To: sct-islay@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] McEwan St Clair Name Change Hello again Ashley, Further to my last, I have now had a chance to look more closely at your post and can give you the following thoughts and information. John McEwan of Cruach (sometimes Mac instead of Mc, and sometimes McEwen) who was born in 1810 and died in 1896 was my great great grandfather. His parents were Hugh McEwan and Sarah Kenedy. There are records for 3 siblings, Nancy 1812, Betty 1815 and Peggy 1817. (Toni, I think that your Ann is likely to be Nancy as the names are interchangeable. She presumably eventually died in Glasgow so a death record should exist which would confirm her parents.) John married Nancy (Ann or Anne) Niven or McNiven in 1835. So far I have not found a death record for her. John is buried in Kilnaughton Cemetery at Port Ellen and his gravestone reads: In loving remembrance of John McEwan Cruach who died February 21st 1896 aged 86 years also his five sons I have visited the grave and have a photograph of it which I could send you off-list. Incidentally, when we were there in July this year we found the cemetery ravaged by rabbit warrens with bits of bones strewn around - my wife who is a nurse could identify them! I have found 7 children of the marriage: Catherine,1836; Elizabeth (my great grandmother) 1838; Margaret 1841; Alexander 1844; Anne 1846; Malcolm 1848; John 1854. This of course is somewhat at odds with the reference to 5 sons on his gravestone! Elizabeth married Alexander Sinclair in 1861 and moved to Glasgow presumably to find work. Times were hard on Islay with agrarian reform and potato famine contributing to significant emigration. As Alexander had been a plowman on Islay and was used to working with horses, he became a carter in Glasgow and found work with a bakery, Robert Thomson and Sons. The "van" would have been horse-drawn. I have a short obituary for him if you would like to have a copy. They had 9 children of whom only 3 survived into adulthood. The survivors were: Alexander, my grandfather; John who became a printer and worked for the Celtic Press that Toni wrote about; and Donald who remained a batchelor and worked for the railway. Donald is the son on the 1901 census for 1085 Pollokshaws Road (building still exists, my father was born there in 1909) on which your Annie and John appear. By this stage the other 2 sons were married and living elsewhere, John nearby and Alex in Rothesay. The probability of John and Annie being grandchildren of John McEwan is extremely high, in which case you and I are related, albeit distantly. At that time, and up to the second world war it was quite common for children to be "farmed out" to other family members. Alexander was brought up by his uncle Archibald McDougall at Corrary after his mother died and his father re-married. Do you have definite proof that either John or Annie were illegitimate? They could have been children of one of Malcolm's siblings or cousins, possibly deceased. I have no information so far on what happened to any of them. The name change is interesting but certainly derives from Sinclair. Don't be confused with the Sinclairs of Caithness or the Knights Templar, the Islay Sinclairs were themselves a name-change from McNokaird. (Toni is the expert on this). Two of my fathers siblings had McEwen (spelling again) as middle names but I think it has died out now in our family. Have you been to Islay? Cruach is now just a scattering of modern houses and I have been unable to trace anyone with knowledge of it in the old days. Having "got the bug", mainly through this wonderful list, we now go every year. I should say for clarification that we live near Glasgow. Best wishes, Iain ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. 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Hello Deborah, Today, Cruach is a small number of scattered houses in farmland just outside Bowmore which is the main town on Islay. Corrary is a farm, also not far from Bowmore, where the Bowmore to Port Ellen road crosses the river Laggan. 2 miles along the river is Curalach where my Sinclair ancestors lived and worked. a few years ago I wrote a note about my first visit to Islay. It is on Steve's website at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/sinclair.htm It might give you a flavour. If you look at an OS map of Islay you will find them quite easily. In the time of your forebears each of these farming areas, and many others, were worked by tenant farmers and farm labourers living in small 2 room cottages which were very basic. Most have been demolished over the years or had new buildings erected. There would typically have been several families working on each farm, and many of them moved from farm to farm, so your family living at Cruach and then Corrary would have been quite normal. They are probably less than 2 miles apart. Hope this helps. Iain

Hi Lorane, Jack forewarded your message to me also. Until I sort out some more marriage and death records I won't be sure if any more of the siblings of George b. 1809 came over.... But, I am looking at one family on the 1851 Chinguacousy Census on page 255. John and Margaret Campbell, children: John, Catherine, Mary, Janet, Colin, Duncan, Sarah, and Margaret. The birth year is about right for John b. 1807, Scotland, and there is a marriage in the Home Dist records for a John Campbell and Margaret Sinclair Dec 17 1836 in Toronto. The first son of this couple in the census "John born about 1836". And just under them is a Niel Campbell born about 1828 Scotland. And another Campbell family below that "Mal (Malcomb) Campbell and wife Sarah. George Campbell and Margaret (Graham) are on page 297 of the same census, with sons John, Archibald, and Alexander. George and Margaret are in 1851-1891 census. George died Aug 15 1891, informant was J. L. Campbell (oldest son or brother?) I am waiting on a film at my FHC on a possible death register for Margaret. And I am currently going through the Marriage Index and Registers looking for the marriages of the kids. Going by the census' none of their kids married until after 1871. Don't know if you have any or all of this, you can e-mail me off line if you what. My Alexander married Toronto,1878 to Octavia Phillips (daur of James Phillips and Eliza Thorne, I have more on the Phillips) Octavia was from Etobicoke. They had 10 kids. Archibald married in Chinguacousy 1873 to Mary Hall, she died before 1891 as Archibald is listed as a widow by then. You have George Alexander and Mary Hunter. There is a death register for a David Hall Campbell in 1897 Chinguacousy, I have not ordered it yet. I don't have any more on James R or Annie M. ? Leslie

Hi Leslie, My Campbell family also settled in Chinguacousy Township and I am trying to sort out the Campbell families. Did any of the siblings of George Campbell b.1809 immigrate to Ontario? I would be very interested in any information you may have on George Campbell and Mary Graham's eight children. One of their children, Archibald (1848 - 1914) and his wife Mary Hall may have been buried in Cheltenham Cemetery. Lorne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leslie" <leslieb@centurytel.net> To: <SCT-ISLAY@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 3:33 PM Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] Campbell-Sinclair > Hello listers, > > I am new to this list. This week I finaly comfirmed that my Campbell was > from Islay. So today I was checking the past messages for this list and > last year there were others working on the same familys. Here is my > lot.... > > George Campbell b. 1809 - Islay, Sct.. d. 1891 - Chinguacousy, Ont., > Parents: John Campbell & Catherine Sinclair > Married: Margaret (Mary) Graham abt. 1844 They had eight children: > John, Archibald, Alexander (my line), Colin, Neil, Martha, David, and > George. > > I am still working on the children, filling in the blanks, so far I have > Archibalds marriage and children as well. > > > Leslie > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Doe's anyone on the list know anything about the place's Cruach and Corrary on Islay ? My ancestor's Donald Ferguson and Catherine Ferguson, nee McIntyre lived at these places on the following dates. 1838 - Corrary, daughter Catherine born 1839 - Corrary, son Neil born 1841 - Cruach, 1841 census and son Arcgibald born. 1844 - Corrary, daughter Jean born. 1855 - Fern Cottage, son Alexander born 1858 - Cruach, Donald Ferguson died. Where these place's family houses or farm's where a number of family's lived and worked ? I would appreciate any input on these property's. Debbie -------------------------------------------------------------------- Glasgow - McKelvie, McCulloch, Murphy, Malone, Clark/Clarke, Toal, McKay Perthshire - Sutherland, Gardiner, Imrie, Robertson, MacGregor, MacDonald Kincardine - Davidson, Duncan, Brand Ayrshire - McCulloch, Dodds Argyll - McKay, Sinclair, Campbell Islay - McDougall, Caskie, Ferguson, McIntyre, Kane/Kean Ireland - Tracey, Kelly, McCormick, Daly, Desmond, Toal/Toll, McGeown, Thomson --------------------------------------------------------------------

Hello again Ashley, Further to my last, I have now had a chance to look more closely at your post and can give you the following thoughts and information. John McEwan of Cruach (sometimes Mac instead of Mc, and sometimes McEwen) who was born in 1810 and died in 1896 was my great great grandfather. His parents were Hugh McEwan and Sarah Kenedy. There are records for 3 siblings, Nancy 1812, Betty 1815 and Peggy 1817. (Toni, I think that your Ann is likely to be Nancy as the names are interchangeable. She presumably eventually died in Glasgow so a death record should exist which would confirm her parents.) John married Nancy (Ann or Anne) Niven or McNiven in 1835. So far I have not found a death record for her. John is buried in Kilnaughton Cemetery at Port Ellen and his gravestone reads: In loving remembrance of John McEwan Cruach who died February 21st 1896 aged 86 years also his five sons I have visited the grave and have a photograph of it which I could send you off-list. Incidentally, when we were there in July this year we found the cemetery ravaged by rabbit warrens with bits of bones strewn around - my wife who is a nurse could identify them! I have found 7 children of the marriage: Catherine,1836; Elizabeth (my great grandmother) 1838; Margaret 1841; Alexander 1844; Anne 1846; Malcolm 1848; John 1854. This of course is somewhat at odds with the reference to 5 sons on his gravestone! Elizabeth married Alexander Sinclair in 1861 and moved to Glasgow presumably to find work. Times were hard on Islay with agrarian reform and potato famine contributing to significant emigration. As Alexander had been a plowman on Islay and was used to working with horses, he became a carter in Glasgow and found work with a bakery, Robert Thomson and Sons. The "van" would have been horse-drawn. I have a short obituary for him if you would like to have a copy. They had 9 children of whom only 3 survived into adulthood. The survivors were: Alexander, my grandfather; John who became a printer and worked for the Celtic Press that Toni wrote about; and Donald who remained a batchelor and worked for the railway. Donald is the son on the 1901 census for 1085 Pollokshaws Road (building still exists, my father was born there in 1909) on which your Annie and John appear. By this stage the other 2 sons were married and living elsewhere, John nearby and Alex in Rothesay. The probability of John and Annie being grandchildren of John McEwan is extremely high, in which case you and I are related, albeit distantly. At that time, and up to the second world war it was quite common for children to be "farmed out" to other family members. Alexander was brought up by his uncle Archibald McDougall at Corrary after his mother died and his father re-married. Do you have definite proof that either John or Annie were illegitimate? They could have been children of one of Malcolm's siblings or cousins, possibly deceased. I have no information so far on what happened to any of them. The name change is interesting but certainly derives from Sinclair. Don't be confused with the Sinclairs of Caithness or the Knights Templar, the Islay Sinclairs were themselves a name-change from McNokaird. (Toni is the expert on this). Two of my fathers siblings had McEwen (spelling again) as middle names but I think it has died out now in our family. Have you been to Islay? Cruach is now just a scattering of modern houses and I have been unable to trace anyone with knowledge of it in the old days. Having "got the bug", mainly through this wonderful list, we now go every year. I should say for clarification that we live near Glasgow. Best wishes, Iain

Hi Toni Thanks for your interesting thoughts. Although I guess that Annie was John's sister, all I can document is that they shared a grandfather - John senior. I know Hugh McEwan and Sarah Kennedy had four children: John, Nancy, Betty and Peggy, all listed in Ted Larson's wonderful site. Ann (Agnes) McEwan is new to me, but there she is in Islay Records.xls - I would be interested to hear if you ever find your source for her parents. My presumed grandfather was recorded as: 1891 age 7 - scholar (census) 1901 age 17 - bricklayer's apprentice (census) (John McEwan St. Clair from here on) 1916 age 32 - Ammunition inspector (marriage certificate) 1917 - Tool Setter (son's birth certificate) 1919 - Commercial Traveller (fire extinguishers) (son's birth certificate) 1951 - Clerical Officer Ministry of Labour (retired) (son's marriage certificate and, in 1959, his own death certificate) So no printing, I'm afraid. His Uncle Alexander Sinclair was a plowman at his marriage in 1861 but was a vanman (1891 census) after he and Elizabeth moved to Glasgow. I seem to recall finding he became a baker then a bread van driver, but I can't immediately put my hands on my source for this. I imagine vanman was an unusual occupation in 1891. Ashley Ashley St. Clair -----Original Message----- From: sct-islay-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sct-islay-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Toni Sinclair Sent: 27 September 2006 13:52 To: sct-islay@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] McEwan St Clair Name Change Hi Ashley, I'd say that it is quite possible that your grandfather adopted the name "St. Clair", if he was raised by his aunt Elizabeth McEwan and uncle Alexander Sinclair for a great part of his life. As you found his sister's birth registration showing her to be illegitimate, and suspect that he was as well, it would be a fair reason to adopt the name of the family who cared for him. However, the spelling on Islay was never "St. Clair". If your theory is correct, why not also adopt a new spelling for himself? I believe there is also another connection between the McEwans and the Sinclairs > Ann (Agnes)McEwan from Cruach married Archibald Sinclair from nearby Mullindry in 1835. I have a note that she was the daughter of Hugh McEwan and Sarah Kennedy, and sister of John McEwan. Unfortunately, I didn't note the source, but it might have come from Iain Sinclair. That would make your Elizabeth the niece of Ann. Ann and Archibald went to Glasgow and started a printing business called the Celtic Press. I believe Alexander Sinclair also went to Glasgow and was in the printing occupation. I was wondering if your grandfather also went into this type of work? Also, were there other children named in the 1901 census in the Sinclair household? Toni Sinclair tracing all Islay Sinclairs <snip> -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.8/455 - Release Date: 22/09/2006

Hello Johan Yes, I feel I would bet my bottom dollar but not my wife, as they say. If I could find the death of John McEwan that would disprove the theory, since I already have the death of John McEwan St. Clair and one rarely dies twice. But there are very many people of that name, and I would need certificates rather than index entries. Moreover there is every possibility that someone born in 1883 could have lived well past the cut-off date for Scotland's People. I will keep searching and enjoy the journey. Ashley Ashley St. Clair -----Original Message----- From: sct-islay-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sct-islay-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of J LOCHRIDGE Sent: 27 September 2006 09:39 To: sct-islay@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] McEwan St Clair Name Change Ashley, hello again, I have watched the list for a few days, hoping that someone would come up with an opinion, or even better a link to the McEwan/Sinclairs, and since it hasn't happened, thought I should at least offer my opinion. I suppose it is perfectly feasible that those you have found belong to your family, but I would keep searching. Lateral thinking will be required, I think. Good luck Johan <snip> -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.8/455 - Release Date: 22/09/2006