Sorry for the poor quality, I've darkened the picture as much as I could. Go to : http://www3.telus.net/artnorma/johnston I am a a dead-end in my research and am grasping at straws. A photo archivist told me that this photo could not have been taken on Islay at the time I'm guessing it was taken, around 1855. Does anyone else have any Islay photos from this period or know of any photographers that worked on the island at that time - perhaps the archivist is correct. I think that I've found as much as I can on the internet and through ScotlandsPeople. If I go to Scotland what more can I find out that I haven't already found in the on-line records? thanks very much to all, Norma ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy A. MacLarty" <nanmac825@dccnet.com> To: <sct-islay@rootsweb.com> Cc: <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 11:22 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Is this an Islay picture? > > On Oct 8, 2006, at 21:21, Norma Callicott wrote: > >> Do you have a photo which matches the hills or the building in the >> background?? > > Very hard to see building in background - sort of looks like a double > exposure? Is it a white building? Many of the buildings on Islay are > white. As for the hills, there are lots of little hills on Islay. > > Nancy MacLarty (who just came back). > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Another speculation about why there aren't adult women in the photo - were there any sisters to the men in the picture? If not, perhaps it's a picture of the 'children' and 'grandchildren'?? I know we take pictures of 'direct family only' as well as total group shots. I've seen this photo before but cannot remember when or where or who showed it to me, so there's a good chance someone else on the list also has it. Sue Visser > Just wondering if any of you travellers to Islay have a photo that may > match a mystery family photo of mine which can be viewed at: > > http://www3.telus.net/artnorma/johnston > > Do you have a photo which matches the hills or the building in the > background?? > > thanks > Norma Callicott > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ---------------------------- Powered by Execulink Webmail http://www.execulink.com/

Hi to all: Thanks for the info regarding Starch Mills, will pass it on to those concerned. Roy

On Oct 8, 2006, at 21:21, Norma Callicott wrote: > Do you have a photo which matches the hills or the building in the > background?? Very hard to see building in background - sort of looks like a double exposure? Is it a white building? Many of the buildings on Islay are white. As for the hills, there are lots of little hills on Islay. Nancy MacLarty (who just came back).

Just wondering if any of you travellers to Islay have a photo that may match a mystery family photo of mine which can be viewed at: http://www3.telus.net/artnorma/johnston Do you have a photo which matches the hills or the building in the background?? thanks Norma Callicott

Sharon asked > Does anyone know where Kilcalmel Parrish, Argyleshire is located? Kilcalmonell is that part of the united Parish of 'Kilcalmonell & Kilberry' (Psh #516) to the SE of West Loch Tarbert - stretching from Kennacraig to Refliich (GB Grid Ref NR828633 to NR713499) I will send a map of the south Argyll Parishes, showing the location of Kilcalmonell, to Sharon off-List. Regards Les ---------------------------------- For an excellent, current, map of Britain use the Ordnance Survey web-site : http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/oswebsite/getamap/ For an excellent 19th Century map use the Old-Maps web-site : http://www.old-maps.co.uk/ ----------------------------------

Thanks for all of the responses and to Les Horn for the map of the parishes. I took the spelling from an email I received about a possible Islay family located in Aldborough and Dunwich Townships. Sharon Huber, Bellingham, WA

Hi Sharon I believe the actual parish name is Kilcalmonel and Kilberry. Kilberry is in Kintyre Regards Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon J. Huber" <sjhuber1@comcast.net> To: <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 10:35 AM Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] Parrish Location? > Does anyone know where Kilcalmel Parrish, Argyleshire is located? > > Thanks for your help/ > > Sharon Huber, > Bellingham, WA > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Sharon I wonder if you mean Kilcalmonell? It is the only Argyll parish name that is close to "Kilcalmel". Kilcalmonell is on the west coast of the Argyll peninsula along West Loch Tarbert where Kennacraig is situated. BMDs for that parish: b 1777-1854, m 1784-1854 d nill. If you are interested in Clachan, there is an old photo online at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/robertwg/clachan.htm Cheerio Sue Visser Ontario, Canada > Does anyone know where Kilcalmel Parrish, Argyleshire is located? > > Thanks for your help/ > > Sharon Huber, > Bellingham, WA > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ---------------------------- Powered by Execulink Webmail http://www.execulink.com/

I'm back in British Columbia after 18 days in Scotland - 5 of which were on Islay. We had wonderful weather and I really enjoyed myself there. Visited the Family History Centre, Islay House, the Round Church in Bowmore, Kildalton Crosses, Port Charlotte, Port Askaig, etc. & stayed in Port Ellen. I am making up a page of photos of Islay and will send the URL for it soon. The oldest gravestone I could find was 1790, but didn't find any McLarty's. However there seemed to be a connection there for me. I had always loved the sea, wind, rocks, etc. When I visited Newfoundland I loved it while my friend shivered! Must be because of my Islay ancestors' blood - earliest I have traced was my 4xGreat Grandfather James, Born 1753. Nancy MacLarty

Does anyone know where Kilcalmel Parrish, Argyleshire is located? Thanks for your help/ Sharon Huber, Bellingham, WA

Hi Monta, My Stewart Mcleod, son of John & Betsy passed away in 1912 at the age of 83. He must be buried some where in the Otago area in theSouth Isalnd of New Zealand where they settle on arriving here. He married Elizabeth Grant after his arrival and she died on the 17th April 1934 aged 81 years. He was a brother to my gg/grandmother Eliza Campbell ( McLeod ) who was married to Duncan Campbell in Port Ellen on Islay on the 23td Jan.1862. Maybe this will help, great to talk to you all who may be related to us in New Zealand. Margaret Nobe. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Monta Salmon" <monta49@platinum.ca> To: <sct-islay@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 11:50 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Stewart McCuaig > Hi all fellow McCuaig researchers > > I have always felt that Stewart #1 and Stewart #2 were the same person. > Perhaps because I have been unable to find another Stewart McCuaig around > at > the same time. You will note that Stewart and Mary Campbell do not appear > to be married in Sarah's death registration. This is a few years before he > left for New Zealand. > > As for the tombstone with Stewart, John and Janet McCuaig > John who died 13 Mar 1861 is the father of Stewart #1 who is also the > informant on his father's death registration. > Janet McCuaig (a widow married surname McMillan) died 8 Dec 1861 is the > aunt > of Stewart McCuaig. I believe this is also Stewart #1. He was the > informant > on her death registration also. She is the sister of his mother Elizabeth > and they are both daughters of William McCuaig and Christian Graham. > > I thought I had figured out who the Stewart on the headstone is but as I > am > writing this I realize that I have absolutely no data on him at all. I > guess > that is what I get for doing my own thinking. I have no idea who he is. I > wondered if he might be a brother to John. Perhaps an older brother being > the reason there are no dates. This makes a lot of sense (to me) and > might > be good theory but I have nothing to back up the idea. > > I too would appreaciate it anyone out there has some information about > Stewart #3, > > Monta Salmon > Alberta, Canada > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Monta, Sorry that I failed to give the complete date of death for Duncan McCuaig. It should have read 3 June 1870. As to Hughie McArthur, according to Eldon Connections John McMillan had a McArthur cousin named Hughie who married Annabelle Johnston. This is probably the Hughie in the photo. I have gone to Eldon Connections and looked up the McCuaigs we are discussing. The information appears to have been submitted by a creditable genealogist. I then went to my database to find a brother and a sister of Duncan who married a daughter and son of Alexander McMillan and Ann Carmichael of Cattadale. Ann was a sister of Mary Carmichael, wife of Archibald McFadyen and Alexander a brother of Archibald's mother. The McMillans came to North Carolina in 1818 with the McFadyens and other related families. Alexander died here in 1822 and Ann and the children joined the McFadyens and others in their journey to Vicroria County, settling in Thorah Township, a short distance from the McFadyens in Eldon Township. Hugh McMillan was born at Cattadale 20 Sept. 1811 and died 8 Nov. 1867 in Beaverton, Ontario. He was married in 1842 to Elizabeth McCuaig. Katherine McMillan was born 17 Nov. 1818 at Cattadale and died 8 Nov. 1886 in Victoria County, Ontario. She married Donald McCuaig in 1844 in Victoria County. Hope this is helpful, Edward King Seagrove, NC

The McDougall families that I'm looking for were born on Islay but before the 1861 Census they moved to the mainland. John b. abt. 1816, and his wife Marion nee Brown b.1814, seemed to live in Paisley from their first arrival. John was an engine keeper/man. His sons Alexander, b.1835, and Finlay, b. 1837, were not with them on any earlier census of Paisley, but I found them again on the 1881 Census. Alexander married Catherine Darroch in Partick, Glasgow in 1857, but by 1881 they were living at 12 Storie St. Paisley, where Alex was a Maltsman and one of their daus. worked at a threadmill. Finlay married Catherine Livingstone in Paisley in 1867. By 1881 they were living at 15 Gordons Lane , Paisley, and Finlay was a carter. Catherine McDougall, sister of the above, married Dugald Jamieson, and by 1881 she was a widow living with her parents John and Marion McDougall at 24 Gordon's Lane, Paisley. All the spouses mentioned, were born in Islay. I wouldn't know whether some of their children were born at Neilston/Barrhead, but some were born in Paisley. I have their names if anyone is interested. Celia. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet Farmer" <janet_a_farmer@yahoo.ca> To: <sct-islay@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 9:19 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Starch Mills > Hi Roy: > My McDougall/McLugash family, originally from Islay, > lived in Neilston/Barrhead and Paisley. What family > are you looking for? Sue is correct, there were/are? > starch mills in Paisley. Laundresses usually worked > in a laundry, not at home. At home they were called > washer women. > > Regards > Janet > > > --- Roy McMillan <rmcmilln@mts.net> wrote: > > > Hi Listers: > > Anyone out there heard of Starch Mills, perhaps > > located near Paisley Scotland. One of my family is > > trying to locate McDougal's who supposedly came from > > that area. > > > > Thanks, Roy > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > > to SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > > the body of the message > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi All I have another family to ask about John McCuaig born in 1850 in Coillabus, Oa to John McCuaig and Janet McNabb married probably about 1876 in Eldon Township, Victoria County, Ontario, Canada. Jessie McCuaig born 10 May 1854 (according to 1901 Census) John died 7 Nov 1922 children: Jessie born 1877 married Lindsay Alexander Guthrie 1915 John born 1884 married Celia Myrtle Gorrill 1916 Duncan born 1887 Daniel or Donald born 1889 died 1971 Rachel born 1891 married Robert Inglis Morton 1912 and died 1916 Florence born 1893 married Andrew McArthur 1912 Alexander born 1898 died 1930 What I would like to know is about Jessie the mother. Who are her parents?. Where was she born? Are there other children I have missed? Monta Salmon Alberta, Canada

Thanks Edward I knew someone would have the connection. I did have Duncan's parents in my files. The source is the book "Dictionary of Scottish Emigrants to Canada Before Confederation" and its source is Eldon Connections. I just needed someone to help me put them together. I know that it is probably undocumented but it is better than what I had. I assume from the picture of the twins that Janet also went by Jennie? What is the connection to Hugh McArthur that they would have their picture taken with him/ Is this a wedding picture of Kate and John. I notice that Hugh McArthur and Janet McCuaig were their witnesses on their marriage registration? Monta Salmon Alberta, Canada > Monta, > > I have Duncan McCuaig born abt. 1813 on Islay, died 3 June in Ontario. > Isabella McFadyen was born 20 Dec. 1822 in Richmond County, NC and died in > Ontario > 12 Sept, 1922. They are buried in the Woodville Presbyterian Church > Cemetery. > > An undocumented source has his father and mother as Duncan McCuaig and > Janet > Campbell with her date of birth abt. 1785. This might be a good lead to > check > out. > > The info you posted about the children matches what I have been able to > obtain thus far. Rae Fleming's Eldon Connection has a photo of the twins > with John > McMillan and Hughie McArthur. > > Isabella was the daughter of Archibald McFadyen and Mary Carmichael who > brought their family to North Carolina from Islay in 1818 and then > emigrated to > Eldon Township in 1829. Archibald was a brother of my great-grandfather > and > eldest son of Colin McFadyen and Euphemia McMillan of Cattadale. > > Edward King > Seagrove, NC > > > ------------------------------

I don't know anything about Starch Mills, but I have two McDougall families located in Paisley, and two of the women were 'laundresses'. Would that be in a mill or doing washing at home? Celia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy McMillan" <rmcmilln@mts.net> To: <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 2:18 PM Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] Starch Mills > Hi Listers: > Anyone out there heard of Starch Mills, perhaps located near Paisley Scotland. One of my family is trying to locate McDougal's who supposedly came from that area. > > Thanks, Roy > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Monta, I have Duncan McCuaig born abt. 1813 on Islay, died 3 June in Ontario. Isabella McFadyen was born 20 Dec. 1822 in Richmond County, NC and died in Ontario 12 Sept, 1922. They are buried in the Woodville Presbyterian Church Cemetery. An undocumented source has his father and mother as Duncan McCuaig and Janet Campbell with her date of birth abt. 1785. This might be a good lead to check out. The info you posted about the children matches what I have been able to obtain thus far. Rae Fleming's Eldon Connection has a photo of the twins with John McMillan and Hughie McArthur. Isabella was the daughter of Archibald McFadyen and Mary Carmichael who brought their family to North Carolina from Islay in 1818 and then emigrated to Eldon Township in 1829. Archibald was a brother of my great-grandfather and eldest son of Colin McFadyen and Euphemia McMillan of Cattadale. Edward King Seagrove, NC

Hi Roy, Yes, there were indeed. The Royal Starch Works on Falside Road Paisley. They eventually became Brown and Polson, makers of custard powder, among other things. If you would like to contact me off list I can give you more information. Regards Jan --- Roy McMillan <rmcmilln@mts.net> wrote: > Hi Listers: > Anyone out there heard of Starch Mills, perhaps > located near Paisley Scotland. One of my family is > trying to locate McDougal's who supposedly came from > that area. > > Thanks, Roy > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Ashley, By now you should have some photos which I have sent you off-list. I would much appreciate a copy of the TIF file of the death record of Ann McEwan. She is definitely ours, despite all the age discrepancies, and the parentage you have is correct. I have a death record for Catherine McNiven MS McIntyre who died on 2nd May 1873 and whose death was reported by her son-in-law John McEwan. Catherine's parents were John McIntyre and Ann McIndeor which I got from the same source. I have never been able to find a birth record for Ann other than a vague memory that she was from Kildalton parish. I don't have anything further back than Hugh McEwan but you are correct about the parents of Sarah Kenedy which I also got from her death record in 1862. Re the five sons of John McEwan, I had suspected that there might have been infant or child deaths involved. It was very common for a subsequent child to be given the same name as a pre-deceased sibling. So that's just one to find. Of course, pre-1855 there was no statutory duty to register a birth/baptism and it cost money to do so. As a result I suspect that many infant deaths simply resulted in the births never being recorded. As far as Annie is concerned I find the parentage listed on her marriage certificate very persuasive so I am sure you are on the right lines there. Agnes the witness could have been a daughter of any of them. Again it was a common name and interchangeable with Nancy and Ann so it is likely that if there was more than one Ann in the family, which there was, one of them would be called Agnes or Nancy. Given the age of your grandfather John from the census details there is no doubt that a birth record will exist. Well it would never do if it was all too easy!! It certainly looks as though Malcolm's death might have been the trigger for John being "farmed out" to his aunt and uncle in Glasgow. In the next generation my own grandmother brought up a nephew with her own children. Toni is the expert on the McNokaird link and I have a copy of a paper she has written about it. Perhaps she can give you a link. Otherwise I will copy it for you. I would certainly be happy to receive copies of any relevant records you have and I am happy to reciprocate but I haven't investigated any on-line linkage yet. Best wishes, Iain