Hello, folks..... My g.g.grandparents, James McArthur, and Annabella McGilvray were married at Kilchoman, Islay on 13 Feb 1827, eventually producing my g.grandmother, Mary, b. 1840, christened at Islay House farm 14 Mar 1840. According to info I have received, but not sure about, James' parents were Duncan McArthur and Mary Currie, both born abt. 1770 on Islay ( Orsay?) Roger McWee is working on this for me, but know he is always busy, and since many of y'all seem to be very knowledgeable concerning Islay, and it's history, thought I might also throw this in the communal "ring" to see if anyone else might know anything at all about this family and their descendants. Have various dates of birth for James....1806-1812, and Annabella was daughter of Archibald McGilvray, b. abt. 1776, Kilarrow, d. 5/04/1859, and Margaret McInnes ( McKinnon?), b. abt. 1772, Kilmeny. Any information whatsoever will be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Diana

Hi Roger, Thank you so much for the info, I am really thrilled to have all that listing which I had never seen before. While I know the family history back to Donald McDiarmid(McDearmid, McDermid-all the same) and his father George, shown below appearing 1836, I have never been able to ascertain if Dearmid (I have Dermid) was actually a brother or uncle to Donald McD or for that matter where Peter McD fits in. Then there is Dermid McD showing under the 1848 rental also. McDiarmids appear to have been in the greatest numbers in Kilchoman and Kilarrow. I have made contact with two ladies descended from the Gillies family being brothers to catherine,(Catherine Gillies married Donald McDiarmid) one who lives near Glasgow and another who still lives at Port Ellen. She has informed me that there was only very basic remains of Torronich Farm when she visited the site some years ago. I will visit both these people when in Scotland. I have only ever obtain a single contact with a lady married to a McDiarmid from the same area of Islay but at this stage have not been able to or had time to try to establish if there is any actual direct lineage. I tried a couple of times in the past thru this fabulous site to obtain further info on McDiarmids and have had a few responses, but effectively none on our link to Gillies and Gillespie that I was enquiring about. Peter T NZ -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Roger McWee Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 12:09 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] Visit Torony & Nerabus Hi Peter, I have what you have on your family group : You are well informed as to the where you should visit but dont miss out Nerabus another stonghold of McDermids and Variations. Below is a List of the rentals of Torronich or Torony you may find interesting : I was also interesting that you referred to Archibald McDiarmid being a tall white man. I met Donald McDiarmid at Nerabus now passed away, he was a fascinating man with loads of McDiarmid family history. He was told by his father Iain McDiarmid that his family were descended from Royal Irish family and Viking descent and that his father stood over 6 foot tall with blond hair. Now is that not spooky? - 1817 Rental of Torronoich to Alexander MacLellan, Charles MacLellan, Donald MacLellan and Peter MacDearmid. 1828 Rental of Torronich to Alexander McLellan, Charles McLellan, the heirs of Donald McLellan and Peter McDearmid. 1836 Rental of Torronich to Dearmid McDearmid, Alexander Johnston, Charles McLellan, Malcolm McLergan, George McDearmid, Donald McDearmid. 1848 Rental of Torronich to Dermid M'Dermid at £15.0s.0d., Donald M'Dermid £16.10s.0d., John & A. Sinclair £42.10s.0d., 1848.

Hi Marg, Your family group seem to be based aroung Glenegedale, which was a good piece of land excepting when the Lots were introduced, they were plots of very poor land and the residents struggled with the marshy ground to make a living and alot of the residents gave up and emigrated or went to Port Ellen. Here is a list or Rentals and you can see the McGilchrists starting around the early 18th Century. Glenegeidle, Glenagadill, may be for (Glen) 'Eikardalr' meaning (Glen) Oakdale or (Glen) 'Aikardalr' Field dale, where 'akr' is a cornfield. McNab of Glenegedale firing a gun from horseback, startled the horse, fell off and broke his arm, which later had to be amputated. 'A relative of his..when the writer was boy, showed the tumulus, in a field near the farmhouse, in which McNab's arm had been buried'. (Rev JG McNeil Guide to Islay 1900 p110). 1499 At our Castle of Tarbet 29th March : Precept of Sasine under the Great Seal of King James IV directed to his beloved Donald Ferquharsone, Peter Makilharsuin, Donald Brihoune and Dougald Mcgillaspik as his sheriffs, in that part bearing that he had granted the 5 mk of Glengadill and Lettir-macane in Ila, extending in haill to 200 markland, all which lands he had granted to Iain MacKane of Ardmurquhane and in which the said sheriffs are to infest him. (Abstract made by me from the recital of the same in the Original Sasine in the Argyll Charter Chest). 1614 Rental of Glennagadill (1st half) for 5/-, 2 Marts, 2 Wethers, 15 Cheese, 15 Oatmeal, 2 Geese, 2 Hens. 1614 Rental of Glennagadill (2nd half) for 5/-, 2 Marts, 2 Wethers, 15 Cheese, 15 Oatmeal, 2 Geese, 2 Hens. 1654 Rental of Glenegadeil to Donald McGllimicheill Silver duty £88-0-0, 1 wodderis,, 1 scheep1 lamb, 2 quartis butter, 2 geese, 1 hen, 2 dusan eggs, 0.5 stirk, beir/meill - 2 bolls. 1686 Rental of Glenegadill to Kynnach McClerich, Duncane McGillichon, Neill McNab & Patrik McNab equally 1 auchtan pairt - £66 13s 4d Wethers 3, Geese 2, Hens 2 - 2 dozen eggs, Sheip 1, Lambis 1, Buttir 2 quartis, Stirkis half, Beir & Meill 1 boll also John McMicheall 1 auchtan pairt - £21 6s 8d Wether 1, Stirk half, Beir & Meill 1 boll. Pyper, this deduction is upon the accompt of his service. 1722 Rental of Gleneigadell £116. 13s. 04d. 1 quarter land, Wethers 4 - £6 13s 4d, Geese 4 - £2 4s 0d, Hens 4 - 4 dozen eggs, Sheep 2, Lambs 2, Butter 1 gallon - £4 0s 0d, Multer 2 bolls, Stotts 1- £24 0s 0d, Cows 80, Horses 20, Corn 50, Barley 8. (Gleneigadill a spacious quarter land, muire and shore alike good for holding and sowing.) 1733 Glenegedale groatland to Ann McKay. 1733 Rental 1 quarter land of Glenegadale to Alexander McGilchrist, Duncan McGilchrist senior, Duncan McGilchrist junior, Angus Sutherland 8', Lachlan Hunter 4', Duncan McIntyre 4', Ann McKay 4', Duncan McArthur 4', Old Rent £174 04s 00d, New Rent £204 04s 00d, Gressum Sterling £21 00s 00d, New Rent Sterling £17 00s 04d, Stotts 1. 1741 Rental 1 quarter land of Glenegidill £018. 03s. 00d to Duncan Gilchrist, senior 4', Janet McIlchrist 4', Duncan Gilchrist, junior 8', Angus Sutherland 4', Lachlan Hunter 4', Duncan McIntyre 4'. 1749 McDougall Survey of Glenegidale 386 arable acres, 398 green pasture acres, 1867 heathy pasture acres. 1780 Rental £57 00s 00d for Glenegedale to Ronald Gilchrist, William Gilchrist, Archibald Gilchrist, William Ogilvie, Hugh Hunter & Alexander M'Donald. 1799 Rental £70 00s 00d of Gleneigdale to Ronald Gilchrist & others. 1811 Rental of Glenegadale to Ronald, William and John Gilchrist, Hugh Hunter and son, Alex McDonald and John Ferguson, and Duncan & Ronald McDougall. 1827 Photocopy of plan of muir near Glenegedale and Duich as divided for improvement. (RHP30975). 1828 Rental of Glenegadale to Lachlan Hunter, John (Red) Gilchrist, Ronald McDougall, Dugald Gilchirst, Ron Gilchrist's widow, William Hunter, Donald Gilchrist, Archibald Gilchrist, Neil Gilchrist, John (fair) Gilchrist, Duncan McDougall and Donald Ferguson. 1848 Rental of Glenegedale to Hugh Hunter at £30.1s.6d., James M'Kerrell £10.1s.0d., Dugald Gilchrist's heirs £25.1s.3d., Angus Gilchrist £25.1s.3d., Niel Gilchrist £30.1s.6d., John MacDougall £10.0s.6d., Donald Ferguson £10.0s.6d., John Gilchrist, senior £10.0s.6d., Angus Gilchrist and others £10.0s.0d., 1830 for 19 years till 1849. 1878 Mr Morrison, Labourer, Glenegdale listed as an authority to the Ordnance Survey. 1889 Hugh Hunter, Ronald Hunter, tenant farmers, Peter Campbell, Archibald McLean, Peter Reid, John Spence, John McIntyre, Alex McIntyre (son of Don.), crofters, Duncan McAlpine, labourer, Glenegeiddle, Robert Jackson, shepherd Glenegeidale. (Register of voters for the County of Argyll 1889-90). 1914 Rental House & Farm of Glenegedale to Mrs Ronald & Lachlan & John Hunter of 1,660 acres at £145. 102 cattle, 9 horses, 339 sheep on a yearly lease, also 1 house £1 10s. (Sale Book of Kildalton Estate) Regards Roger

Hi, My Campbells came from Daill, Islay and immigrated to Ontario, Canada in 1832. Colin Campbell, his wife Marion Sinclair and their family Robert 1814, Mary 1816, Alex 1818, Robert 1820, Janet 1822 and Hugh 1825 also lived in Daill during the same time. Perhaps they are related to my Campbell family in some way! I hope that someone on this list may have more information on this family such as Colin and Marion's parents or their descendants. Thanks Lorne

Can anyone claim this mystery Finlay? http://www.indicommons.org/2010/03/06/finlay-deerstalker-in-the-employ-of-campbell-of-islay/ Cheers Sue Visser

Hi Dorothy, Thank you for your response. I am puzzled over Duncan because, I can't find his birth or his death. He was alive at least until the 1861 census so there should be a death record but I cannot find it (or, if I have found it, there is not enough information to be sure it's him). Duncan and Rachel McLellan were married in Gorbals, in 1824, but then moved to Edinburgh where they had my GGrandfather, Angus. Another child, the first Mary, was born there as well but apparently died and the rest of their children were born in Glasgow. I suspect that there was a community of Islayans in Glasgow at that time. His wife, Rachel, died at 35 years in 1839, in Glasgow. The death record contains no family information other than Duncan's name and occupation so I'm not sure where she was born. The cause of death was declined to be given but the record keeper exercised a great deal of imagination in the spelling of Rachel (Ratchell) which kept her hidden for a while. Thanks again for your help. Paul MacAuley

Hi Roger, My McDiarmids were crofters for a few generations at Torronich Farm which is a little way below Port Charlotte towards Nerabus. Earliest info that I have is Geo McDiarmid (b. c1757) M. Mary Gillespie (b. c1760), followed by their son Donald McD.(b. c1797) and wife Catherine Gillies (b. c1811) they died on Mull, next George McD (b. c1846)he moved to the mainland and married Mary Stewart who was from Newton Stewart. All the McD's were born in Kilchoman parish. George(c1846) was my mother's great grandfather. I vaguely recall his son Archibald (b.1869 in Dalry, Ayrshire) here in NZ when I was a very small child when they flew out to NZ to visit my grandparents immediately after WW II, landing in Auckland by flying boat from Australia. The old fellow was a big tall white haired figure that apparently was a very good and fit golfer. He lived into his 90's. Peter Tucker Hi Marg & Peter, You would not wish to miss out on visiting the places from which your ancestors lived and toiled, so you should try to establish where these places are and how accessible they are. If you contant me, I will try to see what the ICD cand tell you about ther associated place names, so who are you descended from on Islay. Regards Roger

Hi Peter, Distilleries are always a great attraction on Islay. The Round Kirk in Bowmore, the Standing Stones, just everything. My Gillies relatives moved from Jura to Lochgilphead to Islay then to Australia in 1907. Have a great visit. David Gillies -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Peter Tucker Sent: Tuesday, 9 March 2010 19:23 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Advise on going to Islay and Skye Hi to those on the list. I really appreciate the information that goes back and forth a lot of the time. My wife and I are also visiting Islay in late June this year. I will be intersted in any replies about 'what not to miss' on Islay. We intend to have a couple of nights there and hire a car on the island so any suggestions on accomodation would be very welcome. My connection is thru my mother's McDiarmid family (and Gillies and Gillespie) who left Islay about 1860 some went to Jura and others to the mainland. My mother was born in Glasgow but her family emmigrated to NZ in 1920's when she was just a few years old. Peter Tucker, New Zealand

Hi Roger! You made reference to (B of N 34/p186)- not sure what that source is -- could you please clarify? I am wondering if there are records like this for Kentraw and Giol?? Linda ---------------------------- Message: 9 Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 11:09:05 -0000 From: "Roger McWee" <[email protected]> Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] Visit Torony & Nerabus To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Peter, I have what you have on your family group : You are well informed as to the where you should visit but dont miss out Nerabus another stonghold of McDermids and Variations. Below is a List of the rentals of Torronich or Torony you may find interesting : I was also interesting that you referred to Archibald McDiarmid being a tall white man. I met Donald McDiarmid at Nerabus now passed away, he was a fascinating man with loads of McDiarmid family history. He was told by his father Iain McDiarmid that his family were descended from Royal Irish family and Viking descent and that his father stood over 6 foot tall with blond hair. Now is that not spooky? - A cluster of houses, origionally a farmsteading but now occupied by Cottars, situated about 2 miles South West of Port Charlotte (B of N 34/p186) Torronich for 'Torr-rainich' meaning Fernyhill. Gaelic generic term in Islay Names 'torr', 'tor'. (Islay Place Names Captain F.W.L. Thomas, R.N., F.SA. Scot.1822). Grid Ref NR East 2360 5619 1686 Rental of Torrenich to Gillichreist McWilliam 6/-, Patrik Robertsone 6/-, Patrik McFail 1 kerrowrane payes - ?47 6s 8d Wethers 3, Geese 2, Hens 2 - 2 dozen eggs, Sheip 1, Lambis 1, Buttir 2 quartis, Stirkis half, Beir & Meill 1 boll. 1722 Rental of Torronich 047. 06s. 08d.Extent ?0 16s 8d 1 auchten part, Wethers 1 - ?2 6s 8d, Geese 2 - ?1 2s 0d, Hens 2 - 2 dozen eggs, Sheep 1, Lambs 1, Butter 2 quarts - ?2 0s 0d, Multer 1 boll, Stotts 1/2- ?12 0s 0d, Cows 20, Horses 8, Corn 20, Barley 3. 1733 Rental of Toronich to Alexander Stewart 18 part land, Old Rent ?65 02s 00d, New Rent ?77 02s 00d, Gressum Sterling ?8 00s 00d, New Rent Sterling ?6 08s 06d, Stotts 1/2. 1741 Rental 1/18th part land of Torronich to Robert Montgomery ?7. 00s 00d. 1749 McDougall Survey of Torronich 68 arable acres, 21 green pasture acres, 134 heathy pasture acres. 1754 Rental of Torronich Extent 1/2. 1779 Rental of Torronich 1774 Crop Rent ?7 5s new rent ?14 10s to Neil McCore. 1780 Rental ?25 10s 00d of Torranich to Duncan M'Currie, Angus M'Currie & Neil M'Currie. 1799 Rental ?26 17s 00d of Torronich to George Campbell & others. The old set expires Whitsunday 1800 Let to McLelan & sons at ?35. 1811 Rental of Torronich to Malcolm McLellan and sons. 1817 Rental of Torronoich to Alexander MacLellan, Charles MacLellan, Donald MacLellan and Peter MacDearmid. 1828 Rental of Torronich to Alexander McLellan, Charles McLellan, the heirs of Donald McLellan and Peter McDearmid. 1836 Rental of Torronich to Dearmid McDearmid, Alexander Johnston, Charles McLellan, Malcolm McLergan, George McDearmid, Donald McDearmid. 1848 Rental of Torronich to Dermid M'Dermid at ?15.0s.0d., Donald M'Dermid ?16.10s.0d., John & A. Sinclair ?42.10s.0d., 1848. 1851 Census registers 9 families resident at Torronish. 1852 Dugald Ferguson MacFayden, a Merchant at Port Charlotte and Tayvullin, said there were fifteen crofters in Killinallan besides the large farmer, about 40 years ago (1852). In Gearach seven tenants, in Oalistach eight, in Cam six and at Toronay five. 1876/7 Rental of Torronich to James McTaggart at ?126, and Neil Turner at ?30. 1876 Torronich Gaelic School and Dwelling house listed as Vacant. Yearly rent at ?2.0d. 1889 James McTaggart, Malcolm Turner, joint tenant Farmers, Archibald Turner, Farmer, John McAllister, shepherd, Torronich. (Register of Voters for the county of Argyll 1889-90). 1900 Alexander Jamison (Aladair 'Gobha Ruadh'), the red-haired Blacksmith. c1900. Lived in the now-ruined small village of Torony just North of Craigfad on the way to Portnahaven. The Turner family still own a house just below Torony. Regards Roger ------------------------------ To contact the SCT-ISLAY list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the SCT-ISLAY mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of SCT-ISLAY Digest, Vol 5, Issue 43 ****************************************

Hi to those on the list. I really appreciate the information that goes back and forth a lot of the time. My wife and I are also visiting Islay in late June this year. I will be intersted in any replies about 'what not to miss' on Islay. We intend to have a couple of nights there and hire a car on the island so any suggestions on accomodation would be very welcome. My connection is thru my mother's McDiarmid family (and Gillies and Gillespie) who left Islay about 1860 some went to Jura and others to the mainland. My mother was born in Glasgow but her family emmigrated to NZ in 1920's when she was just a few years old. Peter Tucker, New Zealand

Hi: I have Dougal McLellan, born 1802 at Daill, Islay and Ann Campbell, born 1803, born at Daill. They had nine children, Isabella, Archibald, Annie, Catherine, Christena, Margaret, Angus, Janet and Daniel, all born in Islay, Scotland. Isabella, the oldest was married to Alexander Bell born at Kilchoman, Islay. I also have Gilbert McAuley, born 1782, Islay and Johanna Campbell, born abt. 1795, Islay. I have no record of Gilbert's siblings. Gilbert and Johanna had four children, Joanna, Jessie Ann, Catherine and Eneas, all born at Islay. Following Isabella's death, Alexander Bell married Joanna McAuley. Dorothy Bell

Hi Roger My Islay ancestors were Gilchrists and Hunters. I know that they were around Kildalton and Glenegadale. My James Gilchrist and Mary Hunter and family immigrated to Ontario in 1843. They left behind Mary's mother Flora Hunter (nee Gilchrist) and her brothers Ronald and Hugh Hunter who ended up in Port Ellen. Flora died at the age of 90 in 1881 and her death certificate (a very informative document) gives her parents as Ronald Gilchrist and Janet Gilchrist (nee McGuaig) Thanks for your help Marg McLaughlin > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 09:00:02 -0000 > From: "Roger McWee" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Advise on going to Islay and Skye > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi Marg & Peter, > You would not wish to miss out on visiting the places from which your > ancestors lived and toiled, so you should try to establish where these > places are and how accessible they are. If you contant me, I will try to > see what the ICD cand tell you about ther associated place names, so who > are > you descended from on Islay. > Regards Roger > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marg McLaughlin" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 4:16 AM > Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] Advise on going to Islay and Skye > > >>I am hoping that someone on the list can give me advise about travelling >>around Islay and Skye and what a person interested in their roots >>shouldn't >>miss. I am travelling with a genealogy group to Edinborough for a week in >>June and then have a week to do some exploring on my own. As my roots are >>in Islay and Skye I really want to look at those places. I will be using >>public transportation as I don't want to face the challenge of driving >>somewhere I don't know on the wrong side of the road. What are good places >>to see and stay and how do I get there? Any advise will be appreciated. >> >> Thanks >> >> Marg >>>From BC

When I visited Islay with some friends a few years ago, we stayed at the Kintra Fram B&B. It was very nice and it is right on the beach, so if you like to walk on th ebeach and look for sea shells, it is a great place. It is close to Port Ellen, which is where we got off the ferry. We visited pretty much the entire island in the couple of days we were there. You have to go see the seals at Portnahaven. The museum in Port Charlotte is very interesting and Finlagggen was awesome, even though it was cloudy when we visited there. I love old ruins, and one of my ancestors was the bard to one of the Lords of the Isles, so Finlaggen had meaning for me. Sharee ----- Original Message ----- From: "judy bailey" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, March 9, 2010 9:13:57 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Advise on going to Islay and Skye I went to Islay in September 2008, but unfortunately could stay only a very short time.  I stayed at the Port Charlotte Hotel and would stay there again.  There are very few hotels on the island, so you might consider a B&B.   Undiscovered Scotland ( http://www.undiscoveredscotland.co.uk/areaisla/index.html ) has a secton on Islay that lists B&Bs and small hotels.  You can also use Visit Scotland, the official Scotland Tourism site.  It has a search feature and grades accommodations by the number of stars.  The island is so small that it doesn't take very long to drive all around it.  There is not too much traffic, especially off season, so you may want to rent a car.  In fact, when I was there most roads were downright desolate!!  Take some of the back roads if you can on either island.  These are sometimes one-tracks, but it is not a problem if someone is coming the other way, because one of you, preferably you to be polite, pulls over to let you pass.  You will really get to know the real island by taking thes tiny back roads. Also, hopefully the weather will be nice enough to walk the beaches and see some of the wildlife.  And don't miss the tiny museum in Port Charlotte.  It is walking distance from the hotel.  The museum people can give you the names of local people willing to help you with research. And of course, don't miss Finlaggen - the location of the Lord of the Isles.  http://www.islayinfo.com/finlaggan_clan_donald.html Judy Bailey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marg McLaughlin" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, March 8, 2010 11:16:08 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] Advise on going to Islay and Skye I am hoping that someone on the list can give me advise about travelling around Islay and Skye and what a person interested in their roots shouldn't miss. I am travelling with a genealogy group to Edinborough for a week in June and then have a week to do some exploring on my own. As my roots are in Islay and Skye I really want to look at those places. I will be using public transportation as I don't want to face the challenge of driving somewhere I don't know on the wrong side of the road. What are good places to see and stay and how do I get there? Any advise will be appreciated. Thanks Marg >From BC ------------------------------- Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor netiquette. Please don't do it. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor netiquette. Please don't do it. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hiya, If you can get to Inverness and take the train across to Kyle of Lochalsh, it's a beautiful run that takes you right across the highlands from one side to the other. From there it's a hop across the bridge to Skye. There are alot of lovely youth hostels on the island, independent and part of the Scottish Youth Hostels association, which I would recommend if you don't mind that sort of accommodation. The Cuillins are not to be missed and there are youth hostels in prime spots for such sights while you are conducting genealogy! If you are feeling really brave, there are even a few camping botheys where you can sleep in earthen floored single storey shelters in a sleeping bag. Maybe not advisable till it is warmer! Alan On 9 March 2010 16:13, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I went to Islay in September 2008, but unfortunately could stay only a very > short time. I stayed at the Port Charlotte Hotel and would stay there > again. There are very few hotels on the island, so you might consider a > B&B. Undiscovered Scotland ( > http://www.undiscoveredscotland.co.uk/areaisla/index.html ) has a secton > on Islay that lists B&Bs and small hotels. You can also use Visit Scotland, > the official Scotland Tourism site. It has a search feature and grades > accommodations by the number of stars. > > > > The island is so small that it doesn't take very long to drive all around > it. There is not too much traffic, especially off season, so you may want > to rent a car. In fact, when I was there most roads were downright > desolate!! > > > > Take some of the back roads if you can on either island. These are > sometimes one-tracks, but it is not a problem if someone is coming the other > way, because one of you, preferably you to be polite, pulls over to let you > pass. You will really get to know the real island by taking thes tiny back > roads. Also, hopefully the weather will be nice enough to walk the beaches > and see some of the wildlife. And don't miss the tiny museum in Port > Charlotte. It is walking distance from the hotel. The museum people can > give you the names of local people willing to help you with research. > > > > And of course, don't miss Finlaggen - the location of the Lord of the > Isles. http://www.islayinfo.com/finlaggan_clan_donald.html > > > > Judy Bailey > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marg McLaughlin" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Monday, March 8, 2010 11:16:08 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] Advise on going to Islay and Skye > > I am hoping that someone on the list can give me advise about travelling > around Islay and Skye and what a person interested in their roots shouldn't > miss. I am travelling with a genealogy group to Edinborough for a week in > June and then have a week to do some exploring on my own. As my roots are in > Islay and Skye I really want to look at those places. I will be using public > transportation as I don't want to face the challenge of driving somewhere I > don't know on the wrong side of the road. What are good places to see and > stay and how do I get there? Any advise will be appreciated. > > Thanks > > Marg > >From BC > ------------------------------- > > Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor > netiquette. Please don't do it. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- > > Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor > netiquette. Please don't do it. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- http://www.justgiving.com/alanodonoghue Collecting donations for the Anglo-Thai Foundation Supporting education in poor communities, providing hardship grants, supplying clean water etc Having the ATF symbol as a tattoo when reach target

Hi, I am searching for any information about Duncan McAulay, born Kilchoman, about 1785 - 1800 give or take. He married Rachel McLellan in Glasgow in 1824 in the Gaelic church and had children Named Angus, Mary, Mary, Margaret and John. Duncan was a joiner and may have had a brother named Gilbert. Gilbert was also a joiner and also born Kilchoman. He married Jane McDermid in 1832 in the same Gaelic Church that Duncan did. Duncan's oldest son, Angus, was a plasterer. I have not been able to find Duncan's birth or death. If any one can help, I would be ecstatically greatful. Thanks, Paul

I went to Islay in September 2008, but unfortunately could stay only a very short time.  I stayed at the Port Charlotte Hotel and would stay there again.  There are very few hotels on the island, so you might consider a B&B.   Undiscovered Scotland ( http://www.undiscoveredscotland.co.uk/areaisla/index.html ) has a secton on Islay that lists B&Bs and small hotels.  You can also use Visit Scotland, the official Scotland Tourism site.  It has a search feature and grades accommodations by the number of stars.  The island is so small that it doesn't take very long to drive all around it.  There is not too much traffic, especially off season, so you may want to rent a car.  In fact, when I was there most roads were downright desolate!!  Take some of the back roads if you can on either island.  These are sometimes one-tracks, but it is not a problem if someone is coming the other way, because one of you, preferably you to be polite, pulls over to let you pass.  You will really get to know the real island by taking thes tiny back roads. Also, hopefully the weather will be nice enough to walk the beaches and see some of the wildlife.  And don't miss the tiny museum in Port Charlotte.  It is walking distance from the hotel.  The museum people can give you the names of local people willing to help you with research. And of course, don't miss Finlaggen - the location of the Lord of the Isles.  http://www.islayinfo.com/finlaggan_clan_donald.html Judy Bailey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marg McLaughlin" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, March 8, 2010 11:16:08 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] Advise on going to Islay and Skye I am hoping that someone on the list can give me advise about travelling around Islay and Skye and what a person interested in their roots shouldn't miss. I am travelling with a genealogy group to Edinborough for a week in June and then have a week to do some exploring on my own. As my roots are in Islay and Skye I really want to look at those places. I will be using public transportation as I don't want to face the challenge of driving somewhere I don't know on the wrong side of the road. What are good places to see and stay and how do I get there? Any advise will be appreciated. Thanks Marg >From BC ------------------------------- Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor netiquette. Please don't do it. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

While we're on the travel to Islay subject, are there records housed in the Museum of Islay or at other places on the isle that are not on-line? The vital statistics that are on-line have been such a great resource, but is there other info on the Isle that we would need to access in person? Norma

I would be interested in this topic that Marg has asked, our lot are from Skye and Islay as well. Would need to look at the summer months. Val Riddell (nee Smith)

Hi Peter, I have what you have on your family group : You are well informed as to the where you should visit but dont miss out Nerabus another stonghold of McDermids and Variations. Below is a List of the rentals of Torronich or Torony you may find interesting : I was also interesting that you referred to Archibald McDiarmid being a tall white man. I met Donald McDiarmid at Nerabus now passed away, he was a fascinating man with loads of McDiarmid family history. He was told by his father Iain McDiarmid that his family were descended from Royal Irish family and Viking descent and that his father stood over 6 foot tall with blond hair. Now is that not spooky? - A cluster of houses, origionally a farmsteading but now occupied by Cottars, situated about 2 miles South West of Port Charlotte (B of N 34/p186) Torronich for 'Torr-rainich' meaning Fernyhill. Gaelic generic term in Islay Names 'torr', 'tor'. (Islay Place Names Captain F.W.L. Thomas, R.N., F.SA. Scot.1822). Grid Ref NR East 2360 5619 1686 Rental of Torrenich to Gillichreist McWilliam 6/-, Patrik Robertsone 6/-, Patrik McFail 1 kerrowrane payes - £47 6s 8d Wethers 3, Geese 2, Hens 2 - 2 dozen eggs, Sheip 1, Lambis 1, Buttir 2 quartis, Stirkis half, Beir & Meill 1 boll. 1722 Rental of Torronich 047. 06s. 08d.Extent £0 16s 8d 1 auchten part, Wethers 1 - £2 6s 8d, Geese 2 - £1 2s 0d, Hens 2 - 2 dozen eggs, Sheep 1, Lambs 1, Butter 2 quarts - £2 0s 0d, Multer 1 boll, Stotts 1/2- £12 0s 0d, Cows 20, Horses 8, Corn 20, Barley 3. 1733 Rental of Toronich to Alexander Stewart 18 part land, Old Rent £65 02s 00d, New Rent £77 02s 00d, Gressum Sterling £8 00s 00d, New Rent Sterling £6 08s 06d, Stotts 1/2. 1741 Rental 1/18th part land of Torronich to Robert Montgomery £7. 00s 00d. 1749 McDougall Survey of Torronich 68 arable acres, 21 green pasture acres, 134 heathy pasture acres. 1754 Rental of Torronich Extent 1/2. 1779 Rental of Torronich 1774 Crop Rent £7 5s new rent £14 10s to Neil McCore. 1780 Rental £25 10s 00d of Torranich to Duncan M'Currie, Angus M'Currie & Neil M'Currie. 1799 Rental £26 17s 00d of Torronich to George Campbell & others. The old set expires Whitsunday 1800 Let to McLelan & sons at £35. 1811 Rental of Torronich to Malcolm McLellan and sons. 1817 Rental of Torronoich to Alexander MacLellan, Charles MacLellan, Donald MacLellan and Peter MacDearmid. 1828 Rental of Torronich to Alexander McLellan, Charles McLellan, the heirs of Donald McLellan and Peter McDearmid. 1836 Rental of Torronich to Dearmid McDearmid, Alexander Johnston, Charles McLellan, Malcolm McLergan, George McDearmid, Donald McDearmid. 1848 Rental of Torronich to Dermid M'Dermid at £15.0s.0d., Donald M'Dermid £16.10s.0d., John & A. Sinclair £42.10s.0d., 1848. 1851 Census registers 9 families resident at Torronish. 1852 Dugald Ferguson MacFayden, a Merchant at Port Charlotte and Tayvullin, said there were fifteen crofters in Killinallan besides the large farmer, about 40 years ago (1852). In Gearach seven tenants, in Oalistach eight, in Cam six and at Toronay five. 1876/7 Rental of Torronich to James McTaggart at £126, and Neil Turner at £30. 1876 Torronich Gaelic School and Dwelling house listed as Vacant. Yearly rent at £2.0d. 1889 James McTaggart, Malcolm Turner, joint tenant Farmers, Archibald Turner, Farmer, John McAllister, shepherd, Torronich. (Register of Voters for the county of Argyll 1889-90). 1900 Alexander Jamison (Aladair 'Gobha Ruadh'), the red-haired Blacksmith. c1900. Lived in the now-ruined small village of Torony just North of Craigfad on the way to Portnahaven. The Turner family still own a house just below Torony. Regards Roger

Hi Peter Check out www.islayinfo.com for travel info and ideas. The travel link http://www.islayinfo.com/travel.html#carhire will be useful. Also Christine Logan (Logan roots are deep on Islay) offers guided tours http://www.ladyoftheisles.co.uk/ Enjoy! Sue Visser