Angus: I have Alex McNab m Martha Campbell, Ballychatrigan in 1807. Children were John, Robt, Dond born 1808-1810. John married Catherine McNabb (a cousin) in 1838 and my best hunch was her father might have been an Andrew McNabb. There were 3 Catherine's all born within a couple of years of each other in Kildalton so it's rather confusing. This Catherine was born about 1803 I think. I don't have the information in front of me and it's been a while...so the year may be off a little. Census info had her younger than she was (she was older than her husband and you know how census info is anyway). I think it's interesting that several McNabb men married Campbell women around the same time in Ballychatrigan and maybe Lyrabus. Carolyn

> It seems to me that one of the problems with researching Scottish family > history is the repetition of names! It isn't limited to the Scots -- the same given name appears in five successive generations in one of my lines of English origin. I cringe every time I think about it. If nothing else, it imposes a certain discipline on the researcher. jim

Good Morning Carolynne, You will find the knowledge and helpfulness of people on this list amazing!!! Heather Stratford, ON > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 08:02:11 -0400 > Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] McEachern-McInnes > > > Hello everyone > I am new to this list so I'm a little nervous and hope I have sent this > message correctly. I live in Guelph, Ontario, Canada and > I am researching my Great Grandparents Rodger McEachern and Elizabeth > "Betsy" Morrison and Great Great Grandparents Peter McEachern and Margaret > McInnes. I don't know too much about them but have learned the following so > far from the generous help of distant cousins. > > Peter McEachern b. Abt 1790, d. Bef 1854, Isle of Islay, > Argyleshire,Scotland, UK > Married Margaret McInnes b. Abt 1795, Isle of Islay, Argyleshire, > Scotland, UK, d. 24 Jan 1877, Egremont Tp., ON, bur. Egremont Tp., ON > > Their son > Rodger McEachern [218] b. 25 May 1828, Bowmore, Islay, Argyll, Scotland, d. > 26 Jul 1910, Minto Twp, Wellington Cty, Cda married > Elizabeth "Betsy" Morrison [217] b. 2 Jan 1826, Kildalton, Islay, Argyll, > Scotland, d. 6 Dec 1909, Minto Twp, Wellington Cty, Cda > > Rodger McEachern and Betsy Morrison had a daughter > Mary Jane McEachern [221] b. 1856, Minto Twp, Wellington Cty, Cda, d. 7 Jun > 1912, Minto Twp, Wellington Cty, Cda > and she married > Henry Williamson [275] b. 12 Mar 1853, Arthur Twp, Wellington County, d. 26 > Aug 1926, Minto Twp, Wellington Cty, Cda > > My father George Donald Williamson was the youngest son of Henry Williamson > and Mary McEachern. (There was also a McGillvray connection as I had a > Cousin named Percy McEachern living in the area of Rockwood, Ontario who was > > a neighbour to my sister. It wasn't until my fathers funeral in 1966 that > we all found out we were related and in fact cousins but I never found out > how or who that connection came from). > > These are my connections and I think I may have cousins are on this list > too. I am trying to find out more information if possible as to what these > ancestors did for a living and where exactly they lived on the Isle and more > on Margaret McInnes if possible. > > Thanks everyone for your time. > > Carolynne (Williamson) Vynychenko > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor netiquette. Please don't do it. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9712959

Hello everyone I am new to this list so I'm a little nervous and hope I have sent this message correctly. I live in Guelph, Ontario, Canada and I am researching my Great Grandparents Rodger McEachern and Elizabeth "Betsy" Morrison and Great Great Grandparents Peter McEachern and Margaret McInnes. I don't know too much about them but have learned the following so far from the generous help of distant cousins. Peter McEachern b. Abt 1790, d. Bef 1854, Isle of Islay, Argyleshire,Scotland, UK Married Margaret McInnes b. Abt 1795, Isle of Islay, Argyleshire, Scotland, UK, d. 24 Jan 1877, Egremont Tp., ON, bur. Egremont Tp., ON Their son Rodger McEachern [218] b. 25 May 1828, Bowmore, Islay, Argyll, Scotland, d. 26 Jul 1910, Minto Twp, Wellington Cty, Cda married Elizabeth "Betsy" Morrison [217] b. 2 Jan 1826, Kildalton, Islay, Argyll, Scotland, d. 6 Dec 1909, Minto Twp, Wellington Cty, Cda Rodger McEachern and Betsy Morrison had a daughter Mary Jane McEachern [221] b. 1856, Minto Twp, Wellington Cty, Cda, d. 7 Jun 1912, Minto Twp, Wellington Cty, Cda and she married Henry Williamson [275] b. 12 Mar 1853, Arthur Twp, Wellington County, d. 26 Aug 1926, Minto Twp, Wellington Cty, Cda My father George Donald Williamson was the youngest son of Henry Williamson and Mary McEachern. (There was also a McGillvray connection as I had a Cousin named Percy McEachern living in the area of Rockwood, Ontario who was a neighbour to my sister. It wasn't until my fathers funeral in 1966 that we all found out we were related and in fact cousins but I never found out how or who that connection came from). These are my connections and I think I may have cousins are on this list too. I am trying to find out more information if possible as to what these ancestors did for a living and where exactly they lived on the Isle and more on Margaret McInnes if possible. Thanks everyone for your time. Carolynne (Williamson) Vynychenko

Hi, Janet.....good to hear from you. Don't know if there is a connection, but suspect many of these Islay families were interrelated over the years. Most of what I know about my McGilvrays has come from Russ McGillivray's excellent site...only wish all relations could be researched so extensively. Only Ann I have is my g.g.grandmother's sister, with one entry saying born abt. 1814, Kilchoman, d. 1885, Kildalton, and another giving her birthdate as 7 Oct 1837. According to site, she married John McLergan ( McLean) 3 Mar 1840 in Kilchoman. As I have been spending most of my time trying to find info on James McArthur, who married Annabella McGilvray in 1827, Kilchoman, I am just now getting back to McGilvrays, and hope to find some descendants with memories and family lore. Perhaps folks still living on Islay. Regards, Diana ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet Thompson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 12:52 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] McArthur-McGilvray > Hello Diana > > My great-grandmother was Ann McGilvray born 1840 at Bowmore and she > married > John McEachern in 1856. Her parents were Archibald and Anne McGilvray who > were aged 50 and 40 respectively in the 1851 census. Any connection? > > Janet > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Diana" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 5:57 PM > Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] McArthur-McGilvray > > >> Hello, folks..... >> >> My g.g.grandparents, James McArthur, and Annabella McGilvray were married >> at Kilchoman, Islay on 13 Feb 1827, eventually producing my >> g.grandmother, >> Mary, b. 1840, christened at Islay House farm 14 Mar 1840. >> >> According to info I have received, but not sure about, James' parents >> were >> Duncan McArthur and Mary Currie, both born abt. 1770 on Islay ( Orsay?) >> Roger McWee is working on this for me, but know he is always busy, and >> since many of y'all seem to be very knowledgeable concerning Islay, and >> it's history, thought I might also throw this in the communal "ring" to >> see if anyone else might know anything at all about this family and their >> descendants. Have various dates of birth for James....1806-1812, and >> Annabella was daughter of Archibald McGilvray, b. abt. 1776, Kilarrow, d. >> 5/04/1859, and Margaret McInnes ( McKinnon?), b. abt. 1772, Kilmeny. >> >> Any information whatsoever will be greatly appreciated. Thank you, >> Diana >> ------------------------------- >> >> Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor >> netiquette. Please don't do it. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > > Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor > netiquette. Please don't do it. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Roger Yes, we have chatted before about my ancestor Donald McCuaig. Thanks for the location info. You made a comment about Donald's father being John McCuaig. This I have deduced as possible as Donald's eldest son could have been John (well John was the eldest son at Catherine's death according to Catherine McEwing's death certificate) and therefore named after Donald's father. What info do you have on father John McCuaig to tie him to "my" Donald McCuaig? I've assumed that son Donald's John emigrated to Canada before 1851 as his brother Archibald had taken over running the Coilabus Farm by 1851 where widow Catherine was living. Do you have any information on Donald's son John? Who married to etc? I've made some guesses but I have no positive links. Are you descended from any of this family? Regards Fiona Woolfenden.

Roger Yes, we have "chatted" before about "my" Donald McCuaig. You made a comment about Donald's father being John McCuaig. This I have guessed since Donald's eldest son could have been John (well eldes living son was at Donald's death according to Catherine McEwing's death certificate) and therefore named after Donald's father. Do you have any evidence? Also do you have any information on Donald's son John who I assume emigrated to Canada before 1851 as next brother Archibald took over running the "farm" after Donald died. (Assumption based on 1851 Census where Archibald and wife and family and mother Catherine lived with sister Flora). I can not remember - are you descended from any of these McCuaigs? Regards Fiona Woolfenden.

Hello Diana My great-grandmother was Ann McGilvray born 1840 at Bowmore and she married John McEachern in 1856. Her parents were Archibald and Anne McGilvray who were aged 50 and 40 respectively in the 1851 census. Any connection? Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diana" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 5:57 PM Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] McArthur-McGilvray > Hello, folks..... > > My g.g.grandparents, James McArthur, and Annabella McGilvray were married > at Kilchoman, Islay on 13 Feb 1827, eventually producing my g.grandmother, > Mary, b. 1840, christened at Islay House farm 14 Mar 1840. > > According to info I have received, but not sure about, James' parents were > Duncan McArthur and Mary Currie, both born abt. 1770 on Islay ( Orsay?) > Roger McWee is working on this for me, but know he is always busy, and > since many of y'all seem to be very knowledgeable concerning Islay, and > it's history, thought I might also throw this in the communal "ring" to > see if anyone else might know anything at all about this family and their > descendants. Have various dates of birth for James....1806-1812, and > Annabella was daughter of Archibald McGilvray, b. abt. 1776, Kilarrow, d. > 5/04/1859, and Margaret McInnes ( McKinnon?), b. abt. 1772, Kilmeny. > > Any information whatsoever will be greatly appreciated. Thank you, > Diana > ------------------------------- > > Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor > netiquette. Please don't do it. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Just a reminder to all those with McGilvray connections that I have a database of the Islay McGilvrays at http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=islaymcgillivray. In addition to all of our wonderful Islay data, there is a comprehensive worldwide database of McGillivrays that was compiled by Roy McGilvray of Ottawa, including the Scottish OPR. Putting the two sources together gives us a big leg up on other surnames. Russ McGillivray -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Janet Thompson Sent: March 15, 2010 12:52 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] McArthur-McGilvray Hello Diana My great-grandmother was Ann McGilvray born 1840 at Bowmore and she married John McEachern in 1856. Her parents were Archibald and Anne McGilvray who were aged 50 and 40 respectively in the 1851 census. Any connection? Janet

Hi Don I am trying to research a Peter McArthur born about 1812 I believe in Argyllshire, Scotland. Peter married Mary McEachern about 1845 in Ontario, Canada and had children Alexander, Peter, Duncan Archibald and Catherine. I found a marriage for a Gilbert McArthur and it states his parents were Peter and Mary McEachern, so this is a possiblity as well. Again I believe that Alexander (Sandy) might also be Peter... Peter Alexander (Sandy) McArthur??? I know when Mary died (Dec 7, 1906 in Acton) but have been unable to find where she is buried ????? or where her husband Peter is buried???? Is there any chance in your research you have come across this family???? Thanks Marilyn The names **GIBERT, PETER AND ARCHIBALD MCARTHUR** seem to fit our family. Archibald would have been about 18 in 1811, so I suppose he could have been on the tenant list for Avinlussa. It appears that the Peter Jnr. may have accompanied Arch. to Caledon, Ontario and they bought adjoining farms there in 1820. I haven't been able to find what became of Peter after that though. Don

Roger McWee I am interested in finding out what the Book of Names has to say about Glenavulin. You had given me map coordinates back in Nov 2003 for its location. The ICD has it listed as Glenavulin-Well with a comment close to Glenavulin Farm. It lists Alexander McAlister and Anne Campbell as the parents of Catherine McAlister and Archibald McAlister. Does the BofN list any tenants by the name of McAlister or Campbell. Jack McAllister

Hi there, I'm looking for any more information on my McEwing family roots in Islay. My great great grandfather John McEwing was born in Islay around 1805, possibly in Ballyneal (Port Ellen), Lower Killean. The next record I have of him is from Saltpans (Machrihanish), Kintyre with the 1828 birth of my great grandfather Joseph McEwing son to John McEwing and Flora Stevenson. They had four further children Mary, Catherine, John and Flora The McEwing spelling was used consistently from 1850, before then it varied - the 1841 census records them as McEwen and John McEwing's five children births between 1828 and 1840 were recorded variously as McEwan, McEown, McEwin, & McEwen! Rob McE (Robert Wallace McEwing) Surrey, England

Hi Jeanette/Dugald I have found Charles MUIR (the father) living with Peter & Ann McARTHUR in Eldon on the 1861 census - indexed on Ancestry under the surname: MORNY - 90 next birthday (sic) Rgds Nolene Hi Dougald - Have you found documentation on this? I had always assumed that Charles came to Canada with Peter and Ann and the children. Was there not some story that suggested that Catherine had died aboard ship? Jeanette On Mar 13, 2010, at 7:31 PM, Dougald MacArthur wrote: > Archibald's father joined his daughter Ann at Eldon Township sometime after 1841. The Scotts at Douglas Bay <[email protected]>

Hi List, David Clarke sent me a copy of the Original of the Marriages of Kilarrow c1780 Whereas the Transcriptions used by the list says - 1780 Beatrice McQueen married Neil McDiarmid on the 29th January Kilarrow parish. I have looked closely at the handwriting and I agree with David that it should read - 1780 Ditto Neil McDiarmid Kilchoman parish and Beatrix or [ise] McEwen - twice Proclaimed. [29th January is Ditto - as applied to the two previsous marriages]. Thank you for that David, it only re inforces the need to see the originals, well done. Regards Roger

Hi Jeanette/Dugald (cousins!) I am pleased to note that you have come to the same conclusion that I came to many years ago that the MOANIE (various spellings) & MUIR events all relate to the same family line. You will recall that almost a decade ago I shared this belief with various family members but was not able to prove my hypothesis without access to all the census information. This family spread far and wide from Islay................ Charles & Catherine were still on Islay for the 1841 census - On the 1851 census Charles is still on Islay - a widower staying with his son Robert at Ballyvicar. From this I have deduced that Catherine died in the years between 1841-1851 however I have not yet found her death record. We know that Charles died in Eldon County in 1866 at the age of 90 so he travelled to Canada sometime between 1851 - 1866 I am not sure when Ann (MUIR) & Peter McARTHUR travelled to Canada but I was not able to locate them on the 1841 census for Islay so I have always presumed they had already left Islay by then. The last of their children baptised on Islay that I have on record was Charles bap 17 Mar 1833 in Kildalton. Of Charles & Catherine's 10 children I have the following recorded as to where they/their families ended up: Ann bap 19 Nov 1797 at Kildalton mar Peter McARTHUR > Canada Mary bap 26 Jul 1800 Kildalton mar William MORRISON/McVORRON > stayed on Islay until at least 1851 census date John (my ancestor) bap 24 Apr 1803 mar Mary McMILLAN - stayed on Islay all his life Robert bap 3 Nov 1805 - died young? Archibald bap 22 Apr 1807 - last record of him found so far was his intention to marry Margaret McCuaig in 1848 (I am going to spend some time trying to find him) - I believe that he also went to Canada as family folklore in our line always stated that Charles the father had gone to Canada with three of John MUIR's brothers. Catherine born cir 1810 mar Neil McINNES - stayed on Islay until at least 1860 Islay census Robert bap 24 Jun 1811 - died young? Charles bap 29 Aug 1813 Kildalton mar Catherine McCuaig (relative of Margaret McCuaig????) - he died 1864 and Catherine is found age 50, widow on the 1881 census for Oro County. Charles & Catherine had their last child baptised in Kildalton on 30 Jun 1856 and another child (John) baptised in Eldon on 27 Dec 1862 and from this we have to deduce that they moved to Canada between 1856-1862. Robert born circa 1815 Kildalton married Mary McDOUGAL - stayed on Islay until at least 1851 census Malcolm bap 1 Jun 1817 Kildalton married Margaret/Peggy CALDER - stayed on Islay until at least 1861 census. I have not worked on this family line for many years but I see that I still have a lot of "missing" information that I will look for. I would love to collaborate with my cousins to fill in some of the gaps on this family - and especially to find out what became of Archibald............ I have a hypothesis that Ann & Peter McARTHUR went to Canada first and sometime between 1851-1861 they persuaded a large part of the family to join them there - I believe that the sons Archibald, Charles & Robert together with their aged father Charles moved en-mass to Canada - now I just need to find the documentation to prove this. Kind regards Nolene Lossau

local history - not related Neil Gilchrist (1786-1876) of Glenegdale Kildalton Islay wife Mary Hunter (1801-1874) also a native if Islay, left Islay in 1853 They sailed from Port Ellen in 1853 on the vessel named `Three Bells`` and settled S 1é2 Lot 3 Conc 10 Sullivan Twsp Grey Co Ont Three of his sons settled in Bruce. Marilyn

located the following in Everton Cemetery, Wellington Co Erin area, not far from Acton McArthur Ann, Catherine, Duncan A, Gilbert, James, Margaret and Peter Marilyn Favaro ________________________________ From: Marilyn Jones <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, March 15, 2010 12:38:19 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Book of Names Hi Don I am trying to research a Peter McArthur born about 1812 I believe in Argyllshire, Scotland. Peter married Mary McEachern about 1845 in Ontario, Canada and had children Alexander, Peter, Duncan Archibald and Catherine. I found a marriage for a Gilbert McArthur and it states his parents were Peter and Mary McEachern, so this is a possiblity as well. Again I believe that Alexander (Sandy) might also be Peter... Peter Alexander (Sandy) McArthur??? I know when Mary died (Dec 7, 1906 in Acton) but have been unable to find where she is buried ????? or where her husband Peter is buried???? Is there any chance in your research you have come across this family???? Thanks Marilyn The names **GIBERT, PETER AND ARCHIBALD MCARTHUR** seem to fit our family. Archibald would have been about 18 in 1811, so I suppose he could have been on the tenant list for Avinlussa. It appears that the Peter Jnr. may have accompanied Arch. to Caledon, Ontario and they bought adjoining farms there in 1820. I haven't been able to find what became of Peter after that though. Don ------------------------------- Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor netiquette. Please don't do it. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Charles Monie seems still to be on Islay in 1851 at Ballyvicar, Kildalton minus his wife, living with sons? Charles and Robert etc. As he was the only Charles MONIE on the 1841 Census in Islay - surely he is the same one? Regards Charles Houston Kildalton 2 1 Ballyvicar Charles Monie Male 35 Head Ag. Lab. Kildalton Kildalton 2 1 Ballyvicar Catherine Monie Female 27 Wife ( McCUAIG) Kildalton Kildalton 2 1 Ballyvicar Catherine Monie Female 6 Daughter Scholar Kildalton Kildalton 2 1 Ballyvicar Mary Monie Female 2 Daughter Kildalton Kildalton 2 1 Ballyvicar Anne Monie Female 9 Mo Daughter Kildalton Kildalton 3 1 Ballyvicar Robert Monie Male 38 Head Farmer Kildalton Kildalton 3 1 Ballyvicar Mary Monie Female 25 Wife Oa Kildalton 3 1 Ballyvicar John Monie Male 2 Mo Son Kildalton Kildalton 3 1 Ballyvicar Charles Monie Male 74 Father Kilarrow

Thanks so much for that Roger. The names Gilbert, Peter and Archibald McArthur seem to fit our family. Archibald would have been about 18 in 1811, so I suppose he could have been on the tenant list for Avinlussa. It appears that the Peter Jnr. may have accompanied Arch. to Caledon, Ontario and they bought adjoining farms there in 1820. I haven't been able to find what became of Peter after that though. Too many Peter McArthurs. There seem to have been Peters in Caledon, Erin, Oro, Eldon and Sydenham all around the same time time. Cheers, Don

Hi List Does anyone know the source of the survey "1839 population on the Oa"? Thanks Sue Visser