I have been trying to find the date of death and/or the burial place of my 2x great grandmother - Ann (Nancy) McPhee/McDuffie (nee Shanks) married to John McPhee/McDuffie. Supposedly born or christened 20 September 1800, Daill, Bowmore, Islay. Children Marion, Ann, Catherine, Archibald noted to be born in Killarow last child, Flora, shown to be born near Daill in December 1841. Would anyone having access to records noting deaths or burials be able to help? Regards Anne Lyon
If any of the McKellars are from the Lochgilphead/Loch Fyne regional area, keep me posted Ken. Don McKellar -----Original Message----- From: Ken Harrison <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tue, May 4, 2010 7:39 am Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] (no subject) Alastair, I don't have anything direct to help you, but I would be interested in keeping in touch with your research. Connected to my McNabb family, I have three generations of McKellars with multiple Peters and Archibalds. All three generations migrated from Islay to Ontario, Canada some time between 1849 and 1861, including a Peter a few years older than yours, and his grandfather Peter. They clearly do not match your family, but if you are able to determine the parents of your Peter we might find your family and mine were cousins. Ken Harrison North Vancouver, Canada -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Alastair McKellar Sent: May 4, 2010 2:28 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] (no subject) I am researching the McKELLAR family of Islay. All I have so far is - Peter McKELLAR m. Mary SINCLAIR b. 1847 Islay, and their son Archibald McKELLAR b. 1880 Kintraw, Oa, m. 1909 Eliza Blanche Hocking JACKSON b. 1890 Alexandra, NZ d. 10 Feb 1979. I would appreciate any further information. Alastair McKellar ------------------------------- Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor netiquette. Please don't do it. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I'm looking for a lead on the McGibbon line here. Mary McGibbon was married to Duncan Sinclair/Margaret McDougall's son Duncan. Don McKellar -----Original Message----- From: Toni Sinclair <[email protected]> To: Islay <[email protected]> Sent: Mon, May 3, 2010 5:39 am Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] D. McGibbon Hi folks, I have a photocopy of the 1850 New Orleans census return showing the family of Duncan Sinclair, but in the same dwelling is a D. McGibbon, Physician, age 31, and Jane McGibbon, age 20. Since Duncan was from Islay, I was wondering if Dr. McGibbon might have been as well, and if so, was there a relationship? Any of our McGibbon researchers have a comment? Toni _________________________________________________________________ Got a phone? Get Hotmail & Messenger for mobile! http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9724464 ------------------------------- Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor netiquette. Please don't do it. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi Toni The only information I have re Mary Sinclair is b.1847 at Kildalton G. Alastair _________________________________________________________________ Singles online now! Browse profiles for FREE http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/163036679/direct/01/
Hi Alastair, Do you have any further information about the Mary Sinclair who married your Peter McKellar? (such as her parents, or what parish she came from?) Toni Sinclair ---------------------------------------- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 21:27:44 +1200 > Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] (no subject) > > > I am researching the McKELLAR family of Islay. All I have so far is - Peter McKELLAR m. Mary SINCLAIR b. 1847 Islay, _________________________________________________________________ 30 days of prizes: Hotmail makes your day easier! Enter Now. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9729710
Hi Judy, I've gone through all the Islay Sinclairs, and there isn't a baptism register for an Elizabeth Sinclair who would have been born around the right time to have had a daughter in 1833. There was also no marriage register for Elizabeth Sinclair who married a Malcolm McCallum on Islay either. Elizabeth could have been born there but wasn't registered. I've started working through the OPR's in the rest of Argyllshire for Sinclair births and marriages, and will try to find some information in that parish. I do have the local church burial records, and Elizabeth wasn't buried there. The undecipherable word is probably the name of the farm or village where your Malcolm came from, or possibly his occupation. If you are able to forward it to me, I'd be happy to have a try. Toni Sinclair ---------------------------------------- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 21:48:57 -0400 > Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] Need help - McCallum and Sinclair > > I am trying to verify birth records for Ann McCallum, daughter of Malcolm > McCallum. Her mother is listed as Elizabeth Sinclair _________________________________________________________________ Win a $10,000 shopping spree from Hotmail! Enter now. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9729711
Hi Toni I I don't think that's my Mary Sinclair. Alastair ----- Original Message ----- From: Toni Sinclair <[email protected]> Date: Wednesday, May 5, 2010 6:08 am Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] (no subject) To: [email protected] > > Hi Alastair, > Do you have any further information about the Mary Sinclair who > married your Peter McKellar? (such as her parents, or what > parish she came from?) > Toni Sinclair > > ---------------------------------------- > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 21:27:44 +1200 > > Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] (no subject) > > > > > > I am researching the McKELLAR family of Islay. All I have so > far is - Peter McKELLAR m. Mary SINCLAIR b. 1847 Islay, > > _________________________________________________________________ > 30 days of prizes: Hotmail makes your day easier! Enter Now. > http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9729710 > ------------------------------- > > Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor > netiquette. Please don't do it. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLAY- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
I am researching the McKELLAR family of Islay. All I have so far is - Peter McKELLAR m. Mary SINCLAIR b. 1847 Islay, and their son Archibald McKELLAR b. 1880 Kintraw, Oa, m. 1909 Eliza Blanche Hocking JACKSON b. 1890 Alexandra, NZ d. 10 Feb 1979. I would appreciate any further information. Alastair McKellar _________________________________________________________________ Singles online now! Browse profiles for FREE http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/163036679/direct/01/
Alastair, I don't have anything direct to help you, but I would be interested in keeping in touch with your research. Connected to my McNabb family, I have three generations of McKellars with multiple Peters and Archibalds. All three generations migrated from Islay to Ontario, Canada some time between 1849 and 1861, including a Peter a few years older than yours, and his grandfather Peter. They clearly do not match your family, but if you are able to determine the parents of your Peter we might find your family and mine were cousins. Ken Harrison North Vancouver, Canada -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Alastair McKellar Sent: May 4, 2010 2:28 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] (no subject) I am researching the McKELLAR family of Islay. All I have so far is - Peter McKELLAR m. Mary SINCLAIR b. 1847 Islay, and their son Archibald McKELLAR b. 1880 Kintraw, Oa, m. 1909 Eliza Blanche Hocking JACKSON b. 1890 Alexandra, NZ d. 10 Feb 1979. I would appreciate any further information. Alastair McKellar
I am trying to verify birth records for Ann McCallum, daughter of Malcolm McCallum. Her birth date is listed on a family tree someone sent me as Nov 1, 1833 in Islay. Her death certificate in Ontario confirms her birth location as "Isla" which is impressive considering it does not have the "y" on the end, making me think they knew how to pronounce it. Her death record also supports the 1833 birth date because it gives her age in years, months, and days. The original death record also lists Malcolm McCallum as her father and her mother as unknown. I have her father as being born in Islay in about 1830. However, the only Ann McCallum I could find whose father was Malcolm McCallum is listed as being born on ScotlandsPeople.com as being born on 05/12/1832, which I assume is December 12, 1832. The location is listed as Muckairn, Argyll, not Islay. Her mother is listed as Elizabeth Sinclair and there is a number after her mother's name-FR 154. Anyone know what this might mean? The original birth records list another word I cannot decipher. It says "Born Ann Daughter to Malcolm McCallum, ?????& Elizabeth Sinclair, his spouse." The undecipherable word I've marked with ???? starts with an A, then has maybe an n or r, followed by a d or l, and ends with CY or EY. Aindney? Ardney? Ainlncy?? I know there have been postings about McCallums and Sinclairs, but can anyone help me put these pieces together?? Could she be born in Islay but her birth unrecorded? Or could she have been born in Muckairn but her parents have moved to Islay? There is a record of a tenant farmer on Islay in 1811, but her father would have been only 11 then. Thanks! Judy Bailey 734-674-7180 [email protected]
Toni, Oh my yes, and also probably yes for Grant Muckart, and Charlie McG. Had no idea our McGibbons were in New Orleans. I'll respond to you directly, sorry everyone. Thanks loads, Don McKellar -----Original Message----- From: Toni Sinclair <[email protected]> To: Islay <[email protected]> Sent: Mon, May 3, 2010 5:39 am Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] D. McGibbon Hi folks, I have a photocopy of the 1850 New Orleans census return showing the family of Duncan Sinclair, but in the same dwelling is a D. McGibbon, Physician, age 31, and Jane McGibbon, age 20. Since Duncan was from Islay, I was wondering if Dr. McGibbon might have been as well, and if so, was there a relationship? Any of our McGibbon researchers have a comment? Toni _________________________________________________________________ Got a phone? Get Hotmail & Messenger for mobile! http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9724464 ------------------------------- Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor netiquette. Please don't do it. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Roger, You have identified one of my "mysteries". I have a photocopy of the Mary (Cameron) Bell Death Registration you have mentioned. From the family and the especially property information contained there I can confirm this is my gggrandmother. It was the death registration and the reference to "Janet/Jessie" Sinclair that led me to the prior contact with Toni who has so much to share on the Sinclair family. I admit I've relied on her information that "Janet/Jessie" was married to Donald Cameron and she has not come across another Sinclair by that name married to a Neil Cameron. The Neil Cameron reference continues to elude an explanation. My working assumption is that much of the information in the death registration is a bit "off" based on subsequent research but ??? Research since for her birthdate on census 1911 (1836) ,1901 (June 1832),1891 ,1881 (age 50),1871,1861 (age 29), and marriage from 1854 (no ages or parents) hasn't helped me narrow it down too much either. The John/Mary Bell family established initially in Eldon Twp, Victoria Co. before moving north to Algoma in late 1870's, had children named Donald, John, Janet(Jessie), Neil(my ggrandfather), Samuel, Alexander, and Margaret. I have not been able to trace John Bell before his farm in Eldon Twp just outside Glenarm (he also had brother Alexander beside him) that came north later on as well. If anything strikes a cord would be glad to explore/share further. Kevin Bell > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 17:45:35 +0100 > Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] For the attention of Kevin Bell > > Hi Kevin, > I was wondering if you could shed some light on this problem I have. > The Mary Cameron I have that married John Bell was the daughter of Donald Cameron & Janet Sinclair, born in 1830 yet here we have a Mary (Cameron) Bell born in 1835 the daughter of Neil? Cameron & Jessie [ Janet] Sinclair. > Whadya think..is this the same person? I have no records of a Neil Cameron marrying a Janet Sinclair. > > "Mary Bell > born June 5, 1835 Islay > died April 12, 1915 Day and Bright Additional, Algoma Distict, Ontario > died at 79 years 10 months of pleursy 1 year > lived at Lot 7 con 2 > Widow > Father: Neil Cameron Scotland > Mother: Jessie Sinclair Scotland" > > Regards Roger > Regards Roger > ------------------------------- > > Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor netiquette. Please don't do it. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Got a phone? Get Hotmail & Messenger for mobile! http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9724464
I am also interested in this question. I didn't see Kevin Bell's original message, but I also thought that Mary Cameron was the daughter of Donald Cameron and Janet (aka Jessie) Sinclair. Janet was the daughter of Neil Sinclair and Christian Campbell (our branch). If my information is incorrect, I'd like to know about it. Toni > Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] For the attention of Kevin Bell , > I was wondering if you could shed some light on this problem I have. > The Mary Cameron I have that married John Bell was the daughter of Donald Cameron & Janet Sinclair, born in 1830 yet here we have a Mary (Cameron) Bell born in 1835 the daughter of Neil? Cameron & Jessie [ Janet] Sinclair. _________________________________________________________________ Live connected. Get Hotmail & Messenger on your phone. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9724462
Hi folks, I have a photocopy of the 1850 New Orleans census return showing the family of Duncan Sinclair, but in the same dwelling is a D. McGibbon, Physician, age 31, and Jane McGibbon, age 20. Since Duncan was from Islay, I was wondering if Dr. McGibbon might have been as well, and if so, was there a relationship? Any of our McGibbon researchers have a comment? Toni _________________________________________________________________ Got a phone? Get Hotmail & Messenger for mobile! http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9724464
Hi Kevin, I was wondering if you could shed some light on this problem I have. The Mary Cameron I have that married John Bell was the daughter of Donald Cameron & Janet Sinclair, born in 1830 yet here we have a Mary (Cameron) Bell born in 1835 the daughter of Neil? Cameron & Jessie [ Janet] Sinclair. Whadya think..is this the same person? I have no records of a Neil Cameron marrying a Janet Sinclair. "Mary Bell born June 5, 1835 Islay died April 12, 1915 Day and Bright Additional, Algoma Distict, Ontario died at 79 years 10 months of pleursy 1 year lived at Lot 7 con 2 Widow Father: Neil Cameron Scotland Mother: Jessie Sinclair Scotland" Regards Roger Regards Roger
Ken, It is my understanding that formal adoption did not take place in Canada until the 1920s. However as a wild shot, try England. A large number of "adopted" children were in fact Home Children who came out from England. Because of the stigma of being a Home Child, that little piece of information may not have come through. There is a database with Library & Archives Canada that lists all the ships lists. We found one of our "adopted" family members that way. Lili > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 16:43:02 -0700 > Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] Ontario adoptions > > Amongst my Islay folk, there were several "adoptions" in Canada of orphans. > Some of these I have been able to sort out, but one of the ones closest to > me (a great great aunt) has been elusive. > > > > She was born in Ontario (presumably) in 1902 and I have from family papers > her assumed actual birth date. I have been unable to find her birth in > Ontario records under either her adoptive surname, or her presumed (from > family rumour) birth surname. I have also tried to find her by her given > name only, with her exact birth date. No luck. I do not know exactly where > she was born. > > > > Is there a register of adoptions for Ontario for this period? > > > > Ken Harrison > North Vancouver, Canada > > > > ------------------------------- > > Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor netiquette. Please don't do it. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Videos that have everyone talking! Now also in HD! http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9724465
Amongst my Islay folk, there were several "adoptions" in Canada of orphans. Some of these I have been able to sort out, but one of the ones closest to me (a great great aunt) has been elusive. She was born in Ontario (presumably) in 1902 and I have from family papers her assumed actual birth date. I have been unable to find her birth in Ontario records under either her adoptive surname, or her presumed (from family rumour) birth surname. I have also tried to find her by her given name only, with her exact birth date. No luck. I do not know exactly where she was born. Is there a register of adoptions for Ontario for this period? Ken Harrison North Vancouver, Canada
http://www.theenterprisebulletin.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=2547097 Time to celebrate a piece of Collingwood's history By ISABEL GRIFFIN OUR PAST IS RENEWED: Collingwood is a town that cares about its past. It has many 'firsts' and at least one 'only'. That is a good reason for visitors to seek out its well-maintained museum at 45 St. Paul Street. You could mistake the building for a railway station because that's what it was originally. When train service to this area was dishe inside of the station was redesigned. The Station Museum has an item that I doubt you will find anywhere else... a statute of Father Time. Around 1878 he was carved from a single white pine log by David Fleming, brother of Sir Sandford Fleming, who gave Canada 'standard' time. Until railways were built across Canada, communities kept pretty much to themselves. Being able to travel changed things, and 'Time' was more important. The Fleming family lived in Craigleith, but Sandford owned property in Collingwood. Collingwood became a town in 1858 and, by 1878, there were a number of businesses on Hurontario, the main street. In even crossed 'Front', now 'First' Street, for a short distance. At the corner was the Globe Hotel (now the Mountain View). GODFREY McLEAN was Collingwood's first continuing jeweller and watchmaker. His trademark was Father Time, which he used until his retirement in 1900. Son of farmer Malcolm McLean, Godfrey was born at Kentraw, Islay, Scotland, on May 26, 1835. Malcolm brought his family to Canada about 1841 and settled near Caledon East. Advertisement In the late 1850s, Godfrey came to Collingwood and opened his jewellery, fancy goods and watchmaking business at No. 1 Hurontario Street. The premises became too small, so in 1874, Godfrey moved to the south-east corner of Hurontario and Huron. Father Time was hoisted to a ledge over the first storey of the building (The Enterprise, Aug. 21, 1890). From this location, he witnessed the growth of the town. In 1894 Godfrey's son, Godfrey Edward (Ted), went into the tobacco retail business, calling it G.E. McLean Wholesale. Godfrey senior died in 1909, but the statue remained in the family until the 1950s when it was donated to the Huron Institute. this was located in the basement of the Carnegie Library at Second and Maple Street. As you entered the small museum, Father Time was standing there to greet you (On Track,Jan./Feb. 2009). In 1963, the Carnegie Library was destroyed by fire, but Father Time and a number of other valuable articles were saved. TIME TAKES ITS TOLL:Wood doesn't last forever and, in 2008, the Station Musuem staff noticed that Father Time needed repairing. A professional sculpture conservator in Kingston was contacted. He looked carefully at the statue and estimated repairs at $5,375, plus GST and other preparatory items (Jan./Feb. 2009 newsletter). A special appeal in the local newspapers showed that the public was interested in this historical project. By July, 2009, community support stood at $1,827.50. Hopefully, interest will continue and Father Time will be around to proudly greet future museum visitors. Tax receipts are issued for $5 or more. Donations can be made by cash, cheque, VISA, MasterCard, or Interac. The museum address is P.O. Box 556, 45 St. Paul St., Collingwood, L9Y 4B2. SPECIAL EVENT:On the evening of April 14, 2010, 'restored' Father Time made his first public appearance. Town Crier Ken Templeman officially announced this happy event. Museum members, guests and other interested persons were on hand to watch the unveiling. Mayor Chris Carrier and Deputy-mayor Sandra Cooper had the honour of presenting 132-year-old Father Time. Prior to this, information was given about the restoration. Alex Gabov, professional sculpture conservator, and his assistant, Sara Gabova, had done a splendid job. The final step was a coat of acrylic neutral grey paint to keep out moisture and pollutants. NOTE:Alex and Sara are not related. Why does Sara's name end with an 'a'? In their language, as in French, words have a male and female form. To date the community has raised $2,982.25, but more is needed. During 2010, general donations to the museum will be used for this project. Father Time, may you continue to greet museum visitors for many years!
Hi Listers My grandmother, Mary Maclean, was born in Port Charlotte 29 March 1894. The first place I'm sure of her as an adult is London in January 1918 when she married my grandfather. I was always told she did her degree an Edinburgh University, but it turns out she never enrolled there, so I'm searching other probable uni's. Does anyone know what primary school she likely went to, and to what age she would have been able to continue her education on Islay? Thanks for your help as always. Heather New Zealand
McSweeen, McSwan are other names to look at. My Maternal grandmother was an Isabella McSween born 1878 on Rona, moved to Raasay then to skye. She married a John MacKenzie 1901,in Port Henderson Gairloch, Wester Ross. He was a son of Caristina Campbell of the song. Cheers, Alasdair McDougall .