I believe that the Ontario 1851/2 census has been lost, and that the 1861 and 1871 have not yet been transcribed. In case some Lister has access to some other source, I would appreciate a lookup by any Lister who has easy access to census info at no incremental cost and could find the following family in any or all of these three censuses: * Oro Twp, Simcoe County: * Duncan McNabb, born Islay about 1804 (died Apr 1871) * Catherine [MS unknown], born Islay about 1807 (died 1888) * Several children born Islay until 1836 * Several children born Oro 1837 to 1854 With thanks in advance... Ken Harrison North Vancouver, Canada

> > Hello The mention of McPhees leaving Islay awoke my interrest. I am trying to find William (Bill) Mcphee. Wis wife is Sister in Law to Donald Sinclair so this would make her a Campbell (Donald's wife's name was Margaret). The McPhees were living in Glasgow in about 1836. Susan> >

Hello Carolyn, Sue et al, You caught my attention when you mentioned Owen Sound. MyMcNeills went there from Gigha in the 1880s - I wonder if any McNeills appear in your book - or McPhails? John McNeill also worked the Great Lakes ferries. Hope there may be some connection. Best, Mary Bigger. Stronger. Faster. Sign up for a New Free Email Account at http://MyEmail.com

This book sounds interesting . When I hear someone left Greenock around `1850 my ears pick up right away Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Visser" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 3:39 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] departures > Hi Carolyn > > Your packet arrived today. I've started reading it already. > > I don't know how or when it can be made available to others. Ron > Steenvoorden said he possibly could help but we'll see how it progresses. > > Thanks again, > Sue Visser > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carolyn Harmon" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 2:19 PM > Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] departures > > >> Hi listers: Somebody wrote about a family leaving Islay in the 1850's. >> I >> have a copy of "Not A Ship..Not a Man: The Record of Capt. John McNab" by >> John McKay. I needed to get it out to check the dates and names again. >> The >> story begins when Robert McNab tried to leave Islay with his family and >> the >> McPhee's among others in 1850. The overloaded boat was blown back to >> Port >> Ellen and wrecked. He mentions the McPhee's sailed from Greenock two >> years >> later, with the McNab's following in 1856. Robert McNab was Capt. John >> McNab's father. They settled in Sullivan twp, Grey County. There is >> more >> information about Robert's children- born in Islay and Ontario. Of >> course, >> the main focus is Capt. John's experience on the Great Lakes. I thought >> Capt. John McNab and my John McNabb were cousins (born 1843 and 1842) >> since >> there was a Robert McNabb born in 1810 to the same parents as my John's >> father, John, born 1809. I still haven't figured out if this is the >> correct >> Robert. My John supposedly left Islay to visit his cousin on the Great >> Lakes and he also spent many years as a ship engineer. Capt John lived >> in >> Owen Sound and my John was in Collingwood in 1871. >> >> I really had to do some digging to track down this book/booklet a few >> years >> ago. I was able to get it from John McKay's widow, who was pretty old at >> the time. I do believe they wouldn't have a problem with me sharing the >> booklet- but it's about 50 pages long! I think there was a copy in the >> Library of Canada but not sure about others. >> >> Carolyn >> ------------------------------- >> >> Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor >> netiquette. Please don't do it. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > > Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor > netiquette. Please don't do it. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Carolyn Your packet arrived today. I've started reading it already. I don't know how or when it can be made available to others. Ron Steenvoorden said he possibly could help but we'll see how it progresses. Thanks again, Sue Visser ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Harmon" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 2:19 PM Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] departures > Hi listers: Somebody wrote about a family leaving Islay in the 1850's. I > have a copy of "Not A Ship..Not a Man: The Record of Capt. John McNab" by > John McKay. I needed to get it out to check the dates and names again. > The > story begins when Robert McNab tried to leave Islay with his family and > the > McPhee's among others in 1850. The overloaded boat was blown back to Port > Ellen and wrecked. He mentions the McPhee's sailed from Greenock two > years > later, with the McNab's following in 1856. Robert McNab was Capt. John > McNab's father. They settled in Sullivan twp, Grey County. There is more > information about Robert's children- born in Islay and Ontario. Of > course, > the main focus is Capt. John's experience on the Great Lakes. I thought > Capt. John McNab and my John McNabb were cousins (born 1843 and 1842) > since > there was a Robert McNabb born in 1810 to the same parents as my John's > father, John, born 1809. I still haven't figured out if this is the > correct > Robert. My John supposedly left Islay to visit his cousin on the Great > Lakes and he also spent many years as a ship engineer. Capt John lived in > Owen Sound and my John was in Collingwood in 1871. > > I really had to do some digging to track down this book/booklet a few > years > ago. I was able to get it from John McKay's widow, who was pretty old at > the time. I do believe they wouldn't have a problem with me sharing the > booklet- but it's about 50 pages long! I think there was a copy in the > Library of Canada but not sure about others. > > Carolyn > ------------------------------- > > Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor > netiquette. Please don't do it. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks for letting me know Sue! I was just starting to wonder if it was going to make it. I just wish I could figure out if Robert McNabb, Capt John's father, was my John McNabb's uncle. There really isn't that much about Islay- it's almost all Ontario. So maybe just the first section could be made available? Did I tell you my John McNabb married Margaret Galloway in Oswego NY in Nov 1868? They supposedly both worked on a Great Lakes ship- and their daughter was born in early 1869. She might have been premature? Margaret was from the Port Hope area and they were in Collingwood in 1871. I've never been able to figure out the ship. I tracked down the church in Oswego, since I have their original marriage certificate. The page with their marriage was ripped out of the book- which had survived a fire!~ Enjoy! Carolyn

Can someone forward me the details of the person who we ordered this book thru. I haven't received mine and would like to track it. Can't access my files, as that computer down. Would also be grateful on any info on where to stay, where to research my Smith family (Bowmore, Port Ellen), planning on arriving mid July 2011. Interested in finding info on the boats that the Smith families owned. Thanks, Val

the email address is [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) It took a while for mine to come, but this does seem a little long. Zack McCormick In a message dated 6/23/2010 4:25:02 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Can someone forward me the details of the person who we ordered this book thru. I haven't received mine and would like to track it. Can't access my files, as that computer down. Would also be grateful on any info on where to stay, where to research my Smith family (Bowmore, Port Ellen), planning on arriving mid July 2011. Interested in finding info on the boats that the Smith families owned. Thanks, Val ------------------------------- Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor netiquette. Please don't do it. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

To read more go to http://www.electricscotland.com/history/scotlandasitwas/chap9.htm ...."The same experiment had been tried in the Island of Islay by Mr. Campbell of Shawfield, who, in 1720, let all his Estate on Leases of the same long duration, with the result that in 1764 that Island had undergone no improvement-with one solitary exception. Flax had been introduced, and became a, source of industry and advantage to the Island. But this one exception was the result, not of the long Leases, but of the only compulsory clause which had been inserted in them by the Proprietor, which was a clause binding the Tenants to cultivate flax.' It thus appeared that the only one item of improvement which had been effected during more than half a century was due, not to the Mind of the Tenant, but to the Mind of the Proprietor- to his forethought, and to his knowledge-in binding men who were comparatively ignorant, to begin a new industry, which of themselves they never would have thought of....." Sue

Excellent website, Sue.  Thanks for sharing it! toni ---------------------------------------- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 20:22:34 -0400 > Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] various families - interesting reading > > Invaluable historical reading including particulars about a number of Islay families including Johnstons, McDougalls, Hunters, Campbells with others mentioned as well..... > > http://www.laphroaigcollector.com/history.htm > > make sure you click on the underlined sections - original documents will show. > ------------------------------- > > Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor netiquette. Please don't do it. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Learn more ways to connect with your buddies now http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9734388

Hello Rob, I know that in past years the Islay Family History Society have had displays of old photographs (in conjunction with one of the festivals, but I can't remember which one).  Apparently, it's been a great hit with some of the older citizens/ visitors.  Perhaps you can scan some of the photos and send them to http://argyllcommunities.org/islayfamilyhistory/ Toni Sinclair ---------------------------------------- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 07:04:19 +1000 > Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] Campbell Family. > > I am hoping to make contact with descendants of Duncan Campbell (born 1831) and his wife Marion McKay (born 1835) who were married in 1856 in Tradeston Glasgow. Duncan died in Jamieson street Bowmore in April 1910. Their son Neil was my grandfather and emigrated to Australia in 1911 with his second wife Mary Prentice and his children. > We have family photo albums printed in Scotland that accompanied Neil and Mary but unfortunately cannot identify any one. > I would greatly appreciate any information, > Rob Campbell > 284 Kilfeera Road, > Benalla, Vic Australia 3672 > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > > Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor netiquette. Please don't do it. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Learn more ways to connect with your buddies now http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9734388

I am hoping to make contact with descendants of Duncan Campbell (born 1831) and his wife Marion McKay (born 1835) who were married in 1856 in Tradeston Glasgow. Duncan died in Jamieson street Bowmore in April 1910. Their son Neil was my grandfather and emigrated to Australia in 1911 with his second wife Mary Prentice and his children. We have family photo albums printed in Scotland that accompanied Neil and Mary but unfortunately cannot identify any one. I would greatly appreciate any information, Rob Campbell 284 Kilfeera Road, Benalla, Vic Australia 3672 [email protected]

Hi Everyone, I would love to hear from anyone who maybe able to help me with my Islay SHAW family information. So far I have: Neil Shaw b about 1760. m Marion Clark/Clerk 23/3/1783 @ Kildalton. (searching for birth details and parents of Neil & Marion) Duncan Shaw (Neils son) b in the 1790ies m Margaret McAllister @ Killarow 10/2/1816 ( searching for birth & Parent details for Duncan & Margaret) Would also love to hear fro and descendants of Neil and Margaret who are out there. Any help would be greatly appreciated. regards Denis Shaw Shellharbour Australia

Oops. What I wrote below is not quite correct. Ann/Nancy Johnston married Colin Campbell of Mulindry, and their daughter Mary married Alexander McDougall of Kilbride. On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 9:28 AM, Steffenie Kirkpatrick <[email protected] > wrote: > Hi Sue- > > Thanks for this very interesting post about Laphroaig. I have a distant > connection with these folks, indirectly through my Kilbride McDougall's as > you would think, but even more directly through my g-g-g-grandmother Ann > Johnston, daughter of Alexander Johnston and Mary Graham of Tighcaramagan. > Although is is not reflected in the chart in the article, Ann/Nancy married > Alexander McDougall of Kilbride. According to the article, Ann/Nancy's > brothers Donald and Alexander seem to have started the distillery. > Sheila Kronenberger of this list should also be very interested, as she > provided most of my Johnston information and ancestry. I see some > discrepancies between Sheila's chart and the chart in the article; perhaps > she'll want to contact them. > > Thank you once again for all your very useful contributions to the list! > Hope all is well with you- > Steffenie > >> >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 20:22:34 -0400 >> From: "Sue Visser" <[email protected]> >> Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] various families - interesting reading >> To: "ROOTSWEB - ISLAY LIST" <[email protected]> >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> Invaluable historical reading including particulars about a number of >> Islay families including Johnstons, McDougalls, Hunters, Campbells with >> others mentioned as well..... >> >> http://www.laphroaigcollector.com/history.htm >> >> make sure you click on the underlined sections - original documents will >> show. >> >>

Hi Sue- Thanks for this very interesting post about Laphroaig. I have a distant connection with these folks, indirectly through my Kilbride McDougall's as you would think, but even more directly through my g-g-g-grandmother Ann Johnston, daughter of Alexander Johnston and Mary Graham of Tighcaramagan. Although is is not reflected in the chart in the article, Ann/Nancy married Alexander McDougall of Kilbride. According to the article, Ann/Nancy's brothers Donald and Alexander seem to have started the distillery. Sheila Kronenberger of this list should also be very interested, as she provided most of my Johnston information and ancestry. I see some discrepancies between Sheila's chart and the chart in the article; perhaps she'll want to contact them. Thank you once again for all your very useful contributions to the list! Hope all is well with you- Steffenie > > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 20:22:34 -0400 > From: "Sue Visser" <[email protected]> > Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] various families - interesting reading > To: "ROOTSWEB - ISLAY LIST" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Invaluable historical reading including particulars about a number of > Islay families including Johnstons, McDougalls, Hunters, Campbells with > others mentioned as well..... > > http://www.laphroaigcollector.com/history.htm > > make sure you click on the underlined sections - original documents will > show. > >

Invaluable historical reading including particulars about a number of Islay families including Johnstons, McDougalls, Hunters, Campbells with others mentioned as well..... http://www.laphroaigcollector.com/history.htm make sure you click on the underlined sections - original documents will show.

Thank you, but not the family that John was looking for. However it is an interesting snippet of history. Celia. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rex Noble" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 5:48 PM Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] new zealand kckinnon > Hi from NZ. >>From the McKinnon Reunion 1859-1985 reads, > > Charles Mckinnon who migrated to Prince Edward Island, Canada from the > Isle of Mull Scotland, was the youngest of seven sons of Charles Mckinnon, > the Bard. His brothers not necessarily in order of age were > John,Ewen.Laughlin,Donald,Hugh and Neil. Other brothers are thought to > have migrated before him. 'Highfield McKinnon's of Prince Edward Island > are thought to be direct relations. > Charles MvKinnon married Christina Cameron on the 19th April 1808 on the > PArish of kilninan Mull, County of Argyll, Scotland. They sailed from > Oban, Scotland for Charlottstown, Prince Edward Island > 29th November 1858 they sail from Charlottetown for Auckland New Zealand, > then onto Port Charmers on the 26th DEcember 1867 settling in Cobden, then > up to Wanganui late in 1879. Then onto Rangiwahia in 1885 and then later > onto Mangaweka. > > Does this help ? > Margaret > Mangaweka > ------------------------------- > > Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor > netiquette. Please don't do it. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2933 - Release Date: 06/12/10 18:35:00

Margaret Many thanks. Definitely a different branch of the McKinnon family. John

----- Original Message ----- From: "Rex Noble" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 5:48 PM Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] new zealand kckinnon > Hi from NZ. >>From the McKinnon Reunion 1859-1985 reads, > > Charles Mckinnon who migrated to Prince Edward Island, Canada from the > Isle of Mull Scotland, was the youngest of seven sons of Charles Mckinnon, > the Bard. His brothers not necessarily in order of age were > John,Ewen.Laughlin,Donald,Hugh and Neil. Other brothers are thought to > have migrated before him. 'Highfield McKinnon's of Prince Edward Island > are thought to be direct relations. > Charles MvKinnon married Christina Cameron on the 19th April 1808 on the > PArish of kilninan Mull, County of Argyll, Scotland. They sailed from > Oban, Scotland for Charlottstown, Prince Edward Island > 29th November 1858 they sail from Charlottetown for Auckland New Zealand, > then onto Port Charmers on the 26th DEcember 1867 settling in Cobden, then > up to Wanganui late in 1879. Then onto Rangiwahia in 1885 and then later > onto Mangaweka. > > Does this help ? > Margaret > Mangaweka > ------------------------------- > > Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor > netiquette. Please don't do it. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi from NZ. >From the McKinnon Reunion 1859-1985 reads, Charles Mckinnon who migrated to Prince Edward Island, Canada from the Isle of Mull Scotland, was the youngest of seven sons of Charles Mckinnon, the Bard. His brothers not necessarily in order of age were John,Ewen.Laughlin,Donald,Hugh and Neil. Other brothers are thought to have migrated before him. 'Highfield McKinnon's of Prince Edward Island are thought to be direct relations. Charles MvKinnon married Christina Cameron on the 19th April 1808 on the PArish of kilninan Mull, County of Argyll, Scotland. They sailed from Oban, Scotland for Charlottstown, Prince Edward Island 29th November 1858 they sail from Charlottetown for Auckland New Zealand, then onto Port Charmers on the 26th DEcember 1867 settling in Cobden, then up to Wanganui late in 1879. Then onto Rangiwahia in 1885 and then later onto Mangaweka. Does this help ? Margaret Mangaweka