John and Margaret went to Argyle, New York, USA Alexander was born 1752 in Argyle, New York USA and died 1833 Eunice Campbell was born 1762 Ellen Sager

Hi Peggy, I checked ancestry.com and just have a birth date of John as 1720 and Margaret Hyman as 1721. There is quite a bit of information on descendants including birth, death and marriage dates and children. I was thinking you might have that info. Can't find anything before John. Checked ScotlandsPeople but found nothing. Ellen Sager

Peggy I have extensive information on the Argyle patent and much on the Reids. My 6th GG father came with Captain Campbel in 1738 (Duncan Taylor)and I believe our families married in Argyle, NY at some point or other. I am on a business trip but will look into what I can find for you. In the mean time a quicker way for you to do some checking is to check out my family web site. I will send you an invitation to the site and you can have a look around. When you get on the site look under the tree tab and also under the discussion tabs where you will find lots of info on Argyle and where all came from in Scotland and other history. My email is [email protected] or you can reply on the family site by clicking my profile. Good luck and I think you may have hit on something here. John Taylor > From: [email protected] > Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 19:59:18 -0400 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] Searching roots of John Reid, left Isle of Islay in 1739 > > Hello, > > This is my first web posting ever! I'm searching for the roots of my > ancestor, John Reid. > > There is a publication titled 'The Argyle Patent' (about 3 ships of > families leaving the Isle of Islay between 1738-1740). John Reid and his wife > left on the 1739 ship, his home listed as Isle of Islay. > > Here is the genealogy from him, down to me: > > - John Reid (from Isle of Islay) & Margaret Hyman, > > - Alexander Reid & Eunice Campbell, > - David P. Reid & Elizabeth McFadden, > - Alexander John Reid & Mary Eleanor Smith, > - Victor Hugo (Jerry) Reid & Mary Elizabeth (Molly) Cooner, > - William Ordway Reid & Frances Harrison Reid. > - Peggy Reid > > If anyone can help me in finding his roots and ancestors back in Islay, I > would be hugely grateful! ...Peggy Reid, Burlingame, CA. > ------------------------------- > > Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor netiquette. Please don't do it. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, This is my first web posting ever! I'm searching for the roots of my ancestor, John Reid. There is a publication titled 'The Argyle Patent' (about 3 ships of families leaving the Isle of Islay between 1738-1740). John Reid and his wife left on the 1739 ship, his home listed as Isle of Islay. Here is the genealogy from him, down to me: - John Reid (from Isle of Islay) & Margaret Hyman, - Alexander Reid & Eunice Campbell, - David P. Reid & Elizabeth McFadden, - Alexander John Reid & Mary Eleanor Smith, - Victor Hugo (Jerry) Reid & Mary Elizabeth (Molly) Cooner, - William Ordway Reid & Frances Harrison Reid. - Peggy Reid If anyone can help me in finding his roots and ancestors back in Islay, I would be hugely grateful! ...Peggy Reid, Burlingame, CA.

I am totally unfamiliar with military records for Scottish people. Is there a way to research Alexander Dallas, born 1789, Grastle/Ghraisdal, the Oa, Islay, who might have served in the military from Islay or even Glasgow about 1810 or perhaps thereafter?   Doris Barfield Sanders Weatherford,TX. 

To message 1: The Erie canal was finished in 1825. The Rideau Canal was opened in 1832. My relative, William Porter emigrated from England in 1819 and worked on the Erie, Welland and Rideau Canals from 1820-1832. He then went to Vaughan Township, York County to farm on a lot adjacent to his brother, John who emigrated from England in 1832. I have no information on how they travelled probably from Quebec or Montreal to Toronto. Ellen Sager > From: [email protected] > Subject: SCT-ISLAY Digest, Vol 5, Issue 133 > To: [email protected] > Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 01:01:41 -0600 > > > > When replying to a digest message, please quote only the > relevant portion of the specific message to which you are > replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. > Also, change the subject of your reply to match the message > subject to which you are replying. > > ********* > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Deaths in Canada (Carol Bell) > 2. Some indexes for Cynthia and Elizabeth ([email protected]) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 19:36:32 -0700 > From: "Carol Bell" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Deaths in Canada > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > For Cynthia: > 1816 is awfully early for immigration to Canada. None of the west was > settled at all and most of what is now Ontario was unmapped bush. Victoria > county may have been settled that early and perhaps some of the eastern > townships of Ontario. The border between Canada and the US was very blurry > at that time as well. I don't even think the canals were built until the > 30's or 40's so travel would have been very difficult indeed. Your best > bet, in my opinion, would be to look in the eastern provinces or the > north-eastern states. There is a well established Scottish heritage in Nova > Scotia and Cape Breton and it feels likely that he would land somewhere on > the east coast. Any idea what his occupation might have been? There were > some big coal mining operations in Nova Scotia as well as fishing, sealing > and ship building. Most settlers to Ontario farmed the land. Just some > thoughts. You may be able to find a transcript from his graveyard if you > can narrow things down a bit. People tended to settle in clusters, family > or friends from the same tiny area either travelled together or met up on > this side and created a new version of their old neighbourhood. Virtually > all of the older stones in the graveyard where our ancestors are buried show > the deceased being born on Islay or in Argyllshire. Many were former as > well as "current" neighbours. Do you know any Scottish neighbours or close > family names that can give you further clues? Perhaps from a tenant list? > > For Elizabeth: > Quebec is still THE major landing area for immigrants. By 1926 the whole > country was getting settled and travel by rail as well as road pretty much > as easy as it is today. Any ideas on where others from Ardtalla may have > settled or where there is a cluster of relatives? Most of the letters are > lost but folks did keep in touch, for generations. Did any of his war > buddies immigrate? Their location could give you a starting point. The > Canadian Archives have quite complete census data and the database is > searcheable but I thinkso the data has to be 90 years old before it's made > public so you may have to wait a bit for the next one in line to become > available. You might have to search all 10 provinces but if this chap was > here for any appreciable time before his death, there should be a record > somewhere. > > Good luck to you both. > > > > ------------------------------ > >

Dear all, After all the assistance in finding my "relatives" McTaggarts and Morrisons thought these entries may be of interest to Islay researchers. These are Death Notices lodged in the Natal Archives, they are a marvellous source of genealogical and differ greatly from Death Certificates in that names of the deceased's parents are usually listed, place of birth, marriage place and date details sometimes are listed, date and place of death, pre-deceased spouse or surviving spouse listed and children of the deceased and whether they are major children or minors at the time of death. I will follow up with the details forthese individuals next week. MacDOUGALL John born Islay died 1972 Natal, South Africa husband of Enid May KING McTAGGART Neil born Islay died 1968 Natal,South Africa first married to Mary MacALISTAIR who died Natal 1953 and second marriage to Agnes Phoebe MILNE DUROSE Minnie Currie (Nee MacDONALD) born Islay died 1954 Natal, South Africa wife of Claude DUROSE Headstone:Catherine McINTYRE ELLIOTT born 1846 Islay died 6.11.1927 Modderfontein Dynamite Factory, Kempton Park (Johannesburg) South Africa cheers from Johannesburg Natalie da Silva

> After the last of the older generation dies you find box of old Photos with no indication as to who the people are. The moral of this is MAKE SURE THAT YOU LABLE YOUR FAMILY PHOTOS. >This happened to me. Susan

I'd like to thank everyone who answered my question a couple of weeks ago - we had a virus on one computer and consequently I didn't get to thank some folks as I was swapping between this and the laptop. Best regards, Mary

Hi Elizabeth, For Quebec, vital statistics were recorded a bit differently than the rest of Canada, they were "registered" in Parish records up until the 1960s as opposed to a civil registration. The Drouin Records (which are searchable on ancestry.ca) show a death for an Ian McLennan "son of Alexander McLennan and his wife both living and resident of 7 Albert Terrace, Churchill, Edinburgh, Scotland." Ian's birthdate is listed as March 17, 1897 and he died June 19, 1936. The record cites the hospital, who officated the service as well as where he was buried. If this sounds like a match (ie your Ian's parents were still living in 1936 & in Edinburgh) let me know and I can send you a copy. HTH Debbie > From: [email protected] > Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 10:52:15 -0400 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] Ian MacLennan > > I would like advice about accessing death records in Canada. My father's > cousin emigrated to Canada around 1926 and died there and we have no > information on him. > His details are: > > Ian MacLennan, born 1897 in Oban, son of Alexander MacLennan, banker, born > 1858 Dingwall and Mary McIntyre born 1872 Ardtalla, Islay. Ian fought in > WW 1, was wounded, taken prisoner and released in 1918. He subsequently > emigrated to Canada, possibly in 1926 on the "Montnairn" from Glasgow to > Quebec. From then on, nothing. > > I know this is a tall order, but can anyone out there help? > > Thanks, Elizabeth > ------------------------------- > > Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor netiquette. Please don't do it. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Great recap Carol. Just to add to this list, Selkirk area of Manitoba was settled between 1814 - 1816. (Hudson Bay), Islay folk were also found there. Marilyn Favaro ________________________________ From: Carol Bell <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, July 24, 2010 10:36:32 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Deaths in Canada For Cynthia: 1816 is awfully early for immigration to Canada. None of the west was settled at all and most of what is now Ontario was unmapped bush. Victoria county may have been settled that early and perhaps some of the eastern townships of Ontario. The border between Canada and the US was very blurry at that time as well. I don't even think the canals were built until the 30's or 40's so travel would have been very difficult indeed. Your best bet, in my opinion, would be to look in the eastern provinces or the north-eastern states. There is a well established Scottish heritage in Nova Scotia and Cape Breton and it feels likely that he would land somewhere on the east coast. Any idea what his occupation might have been? There were some big coal mining operations in Nova Scotia as well as fishing, sealing and ship building. Most settlers to Ontario farmed the land. Just some thoughts. You may be able to find a transcript from his graveyard if you can narrow things down a bit. People tended to settle in clusters, family or friends from the same tiny area either travelled together or met up on this side and created a new version of their old neighbourhood. Virtually all of the older stones in the graveyard where our ancestors are buried show the deceased being born on Islay or in Argyllshire. Many were former as well as "current" neighbours. Do you know any Scottish neighbours or close family names that can give you further clues? Perhaps from a tenant list? For Elizabeth: Quebec is still THE major landing area for immigrants. By 1926 the whole country was getting settled and travel by rail as well as road pretty much as easy as it is today. Any ideas on where others from Ardtalla may have settled or where there is a cluster of relatives? Most of the letters are lost but folks did keep in touch, for generations. Did any of his war buddies immigrate? Their location could give you a starting point. The Canadian Archives have quite complete census data and the database is searcheable but I thinkso the data has to be 90 years old before it's made public so you may have to wait a bit for the next one in line to become available. You might have to search all 10 provinces but if this chap was here for any appreciable time before his death, there should be a record somewhere. Good luck to you both. ------------------------------- Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor netiquette. Please don't do it. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

These indexes were posted to the List earlier. Hope they might help. You might also try looking at the Canadian GenWeb for each province for records on line. Louise ======== Here are some links for BMD indexes for a few of the Canadian provinces: Ontario birth registrations http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~births/index.htm Ontario marriage registrations http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~maryc/thisisit.htm Ontario death registrations http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~onvsr/deaths.htm British Columbia Vital Indexes http://www.bcarchives.gov.bc.ca/textual/governmt/vstats/v_events.htm New Brunswick Provincial Archives http://archives.gnb.ca/Archives/Default.aspx?culture=en-CA Nova Scotia Vital Statistics https://www.novascotiagenealogy.com/

For Cynthia: 1816 is awfully early for immigration to Canada. None of the west was settled at all and most of what is now Ontario was unmapped bush. Victoria county may have been settled that early and perhaps some of the eastern townships of Ontario. The border between Canada and the US was very blurry at that time as well. I don't even think the canals were built until the 30's or 40's so travel would have been very difficult indeed. Your best bet, in my opinion, would be to look in the eastern provinces or the north-eastern states. There is a well established Scottish heritage in Nova Scotia and Cape Breton and it feels likely that he would land somewhere on the east coast. Any idea what his occupation might have been? There were some big coal mining operations in Nova Scotia as well as fishing, sealing and ship building. Most settlers to Ontario farmed the land. Just some thoughts. You may be able to find a transcript from his graveyard if you can narrow things down a bit. People tended to settle in clusters, family or friends from the same tiny area either travelled together or met up on this side and created a new version of their old neighbourhood. Virtually all of the older stones in the graveyard where our ancestors are buried show the deceased being born on Islay or in Argyllshire. Many were former as well as "current" neighbours. Do you know any Scottish neighbours or close family names that can give you further clues? Perhaps from a tenant list? For Elizabeth: Quebec is still THE major landing area for immigrants. By 1926 the whole country was getting settled and travel by rail as well as road pretty much as easy as it is today. Any ideas on where others from Ardtalla may have settled or where there is a cluster of relatives? Most of the letters are lost but folks did keep in touch, for generations. Did any of his war buddies immigrate? Their location could give you a starting point. The Canadian Archives have quite complete census data and the database is searcheable but I thinkso the data has to be 90 years old before it's made public so you may have to wait a bit for the next one in line to become available. You might have to search all 10 provinces but if this chap was here for any appreciable time before his death, there should be a record somewhere. Good luck to you both.

Hello fellow listers, In response to the recent mention of Carmichaels at Ballivicar, in the Parish of Kildalton, in 1811, there was a family of Carmichaels at Ballivicar in 1841 as they show up on the census for that year. This was John Carmichael, Farmer, age 50, and his wife Christina Carmichael, age 30, who were farming at Ballyvickar. They were still there in 1851 but they may have left by 1861 as I don't have a copy of their 1861 Census entry. In any case John was dead by 11 Aug. 1866 and his wife died on the 23 Oct. 1875 at Losset, in the Parish of Kilmeny, Islay. John and Catherine's children were Peter, Catherine, Isabella, and Anne. Anne died very young at age 20 on the 14th Aug. 1866 at the Parish of Kildalton. Grant Muckart _________________________________________________________________ http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/

Hi listers, I was browsing the list messages for this month and came across Alan's post about Hugh Carmichael and Mary McKay at Scarabus. That rang a bell, so I went and had a look at my family tree info and sure enough found a Hugh Carmichael married to a Mary McKay with 4 children, Donald, Duncan, John, and James.There may well be more children than the 4 that I have found . I have Hugh's parents down as Archibald Carmichael and Annabella Carmichael. Hugh may have married Mary McKay abt 1828 but that is just a rough approximation based on the birth of what appears to be Hugh's first son Donald . Here is Donald's O.P.R. baptism entry for the Parish of Bowmore, for 1833 :-"1833, July 28, Donald, Lawful son of Hugh Carmichael and Mary Mackay, Scarabus- Carmichael" Frame no. 0381. I also have Duncan's O.P.R. baptism entry for Bowmore for the year 1837. "1837, November 24th Duncan, Lawful son of Hugh Carmichael and Mary Mackay, Scarabus- Carmichael Frame no 0401. Donald married Rachel McCuaig on the 7 March 1860 in the Parish of Oa, and had a son Neil bapt. on the 10th of Dec. 1860, at Oa, Islay. Duncan married a Catherine Carmichael on the 7 March 1861 at the Church of Scotland church in the Parish of Kildalton and had 6 kids. These were Archibald, Christina, John, Anne, Hugh, and Christina. I don't know anything about Hugh Carmichael and Mary McKay's son John, other than the fact that he was probably born sometime abt. 1840 and that he was the informant at his brother James's death in 1862. James deid on the 14th Dec. 1862 at Port Ellen, of Bilious Fever. My connection to this lot of Carmichaels is through Duncan's wife, Catherine Carmichael, who was the sister of my great grandfather Donald Campbell's first wife, Isabella Carmichael. Grant Muckart _________________________________________________________________ http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/197222280/direct/01/ We want to hear all your funny, exciting and crazy Hotmail stories. Tell us now

This is absolutely hilarious, and undoubtedly quite true.  Here's a story for you.  A friend was researching a family and lost track of them totally.  Finally she found them in a nearby town with an entirely different last name (but the same first names).  It seems the mother had gone mad and had to be put into the local insane asylum.  Embarrassed by the scandal, the family had moved away and changed their name so as not to be associated with her. Sharee

Earliest deaths registered in Ontario that I can find are from 1869. See this site http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails&c= fs%3A1307826 Or this one http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~onvsr/deaths.htm Earliest for BC are 1872, see: http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails&c= fs%3A1538285 Check Manitoba deaths (more than 70 years ago) here http://vitalstats.gov.mb.ca/Query.php New Brunswick Vital Records http://archives.gnb.ca/APPS/GovRecs/VISSE/?culture=en-CA Not sure if any of these will help as deaths you are seeking may be too early. Best of luck Dixie

I would appreciate advice on this as well in that my 3rd great grandfather emigrated from Dollar, Scotland to Canada in 1816 and died there before 1820, but I have no idea where. Again, a tall order! Cynthia -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 7:52 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] Ian MacLennan I would like advice about accessing death records in Canada. My father's cousin emigrated to Canada around 1926 and died there and we have no information on him. His details are: Ian MacLennan, born 1897 in Oban, son of Alexander MacLennan, banker, born 1858 Dingwall and Mary McIntyre born 1872 Ardtalla, Islay. Ian fought in WW 1, was wounded, taken prisoner and released in 1918. He subsequently emigrated to Canada, possibly in 1926 on the "Montnairn" from Glasgow to Quebec. From then on, nothing. I know this is a tall order, but can anyone out there help? Thanks, Elizabeth ------------------------------- Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor netiquette. Please don't do it. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I would like advice about accessing death records in Canada. My father's cousin emigrated to Canada around 1926 and died there and we have no information on him. His details are: Ian MacLennan, born 1897 in Oban, son of Alexander MacLennan, banker, born 1858 Dingwall and Mary McIntyre born 1872 Ardtalla, Islay. Ian fought in WW 1, was wounded, taken prisoner and released in 1918. He subsequently emigrated to Canada, possibly in 1926 on the "Montnairn" from Glasgow to Quebec. From then on, nothing. I know this is a tall order, but can anyone out there help? Thanks, Elizabeth

So true...........and my father is one of the millions of John Smiths Marilyn ________________________________ From: Iain MacIntosh <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, July 24, 2010 3:06:22 AM Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] Pondering ??? Murphy's Law of Genealogy 1. The public ceremony in which your distinguished ancestor participated and at which the platform collapsed under him turned out to be a hanging. 2. When at last after much hard work you have solved the mystery that you have been working on for two years, your aunt says, "I could have told you that". 3. You search ten years for your grandmother's maiden name to eventually find it on a letter in a box in the attic. 4. You never asked your father about his family when he was alive because you weren't interested in genealogy then. 5. The will you need is in the safe on board the Titanic. 6. Copies of old newspapers have holes occurring only on the surnames. 7. John, son of Thomas the immigrant whom your relatives claim as the family progenitor, died on board ship at the age of 10. 8. Your great grandfather's newspaper obituary states that he died leaving no issue of record. 9. Another genealogist has just insulted the keeper of the vital records you need. 10. The relative who had all the family photographs gave them to her daughter who has no interest in genealogy and no inclination to share. 11. The only record you find for your great grandfather is that his property was sold at auction. 12. The one document that would supply the missing link in your dead end line has been lost due to fire, flood, or war. 13. The town clerk to whom you wrote for information sends you a long handwritten letter which is totally illegible. 14. Your ancestors' name changed from county to county due to local accents, and according to whether or not the registrar could spell. 15. None of the pictures in your recently deceased grandmother's photo album have names written on them. 16. No one in your family tree ever did anything noteworthy, owned property, was sued or was named in a will. 17. You learn that your great aunt's executor just sold her life's collection of family genealogical materials to a dealer in his local pub. 18. Ink fades and paper deteriorates at a rate inversely proportionate to the value of the data recorded. 19. The 37 volume, 16,000 page history of your county of origin isn't indexed. 20. You evenutally locate your great grandparents' wedding record and discover that the bride's father was John Smith. 21. When, finally, you have a wonderful collection of ancestors and documents, you discover there was an alternative spelling for your father's hometown, and that he was adopted... ------------------------------- Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor netiquette. Please don't do it. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message