In a message dated 09/09/00 3:41:27 PM Central Daylight Time, mark@highland-family-heritage.co.uk writes: << Hi folks, Dave stop adding wee bits you know are wrong!! It was not the ENGLISH, it was the British army, stuffed full of Scots and Highland Scots at that, which stopped BPC and his supporters. It was the HIGHLAND chiefs and lairds, not the English, who cleared their tenants and packed them off to America, Canada, Australia etc. Throughout history, the Scots have had a wonderful talent for destroying themselves! The London based monarchs, both before and after 1688 knew how to keep their Scottish subjects under control, by getting them to squabble and fight among themselves. Indeed it was the only way the Edinburgh and then London based Stewart kings could try and keep any form of control over Scotland. If it wasn't the Campbells and MacDonald's, >> You are right enough about that. We have been our own worst enemies, but when the Lairds move south, and by that I mean over the Highland Line not just to England, they become associated with the Hanover's who are and always have been a load of chancers. One would expect the crown to provide justice and protect the people but no they just counted the coins. So did many of the chiefs also. I was in the middle of a rant so I perhaps did leave out the odd bit, sorry. You have again, and I appreciate it, come to my aid with corrections where needed. Now then did not the Bavarian's write the Hanover's and tell them they were not due the Stuart line, or was that Savoy I don't have the book so the names may be incorrect. DaveM PS I wanted to say more but I snipped that bit out and it would no be fair to argue with out the refrence. A side note: I just got a pre released Tape of a wee lassie in Galacia, a piper who is very good and knowing you would appreciate a good Moorish sound here is the click and go to hear Susana Seivane, www.greenlinnet.com