In a message dated 29/08/00 3:27:58 PM Central Daylight Time, arabin@wave.co.nz writes: << "If at first I don't succeed there is always next year" >> Aye and the wife will bring it up year after year too. Behind every great man there is a woman, aye and behind every bum too. Why do so many men die 10 years before their wices?? Its an option. Dave