This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/TeC.2ACE/1118.1 Message Board Post: Hi Bob, If you go to a search-engine like www.google.com,and type in "gudger scotland",you will find a number of websites which should be able to clarify your query. Good luck,Chris.