In a message dated 09/09/00 3:41:43 PM Central Daylight Time, mark@highland-family-heritage.co.uk writes: << This is off-topic for Inverness, except of course it was in Inverness-shire that the hopes of the Roman Catholic branch of the Stewarts was ended in 1746. If any of you are interested in this and the debate which regularly rages between cousin Dave and me (by the way we are both descended not only from a good Jacobite but also related to one of the most evil Highland Hanoverians, Captain Grant of Knockando who butchered his way through Speyside and the Great Glen after Culloden at the head of his Highland Company) then join my Jacobites list: Regards to all, Mark Sutherland-Fisher Genealogist: Clan Sutherland Co-Genealogist: Clan Mackenzie >> Aye mun but the connection was after that and your relative got mine drunk and then married him. Took advantage of the poor lad. Actually it is good you have written this as we all have good and bad and it does show the how complicated our politics are and how none of us are as lily white and innocent as we appear on the birth and death certificates. DaveM. Remember when fact and sence don't work, in a heelund debate, buy a round and get group support.