Perhaps I can share my Macisaac story with you.... It has taken five years to get here. I come from the Clan Ranald of Kinlochmoidart, Parish of Moidart in Inverness-shire and when you are in Scotland religion is very important, we were Catholic. It is not so these days in the Colonies, but still in Scotland. We were Macisaac's before we went to Australia in August 1852 (see Below 1841/1851 census). It was common for the Macisaac's of the Clan Ranald, to change names and was considered a benefit to do so. Also the name "Macvarish" changed their names, this is a surname that is rarely seen these days.. The Macisaac's were the traditional Balliff's for Clan Ranald. When the Macisaac's/McDonald's came to Geelong Australia the two eldest sons, John and Roderick Macissac/McDonald called their properties "Glen Moidart". That was the Glen from where they were pushed down to the sea at Caolsmore (Kylesmore). - --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sometime in 1852 before the Macisaac's left Scotland, they changed their name to McDonald and left for Geelong, Victoria on the "Allison" with the Highland and Island Emigration Society (HIES). _____________________________________________________________________________ 1841 Census Ardnamurchan, Acharacle, Inverness (Taken, 7 June 1841) Address, Kylesmore (Acharacle) 1/2 acre Crofter - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Angus MacIsaac age 45, Agricultural labourer, born in the county ..b1795c Mary MacIsaac age 40, born in the county ...................................b1799c, (McDonald) John MacIsaac age 15, born in the county ....................................b1822c Roger (sic) MacIsaac age 15, born in the county ...........................b1824c Mary MacIsaac age 12, born in the county ....................................b1830c Duncan Macisaac (See Below) b1831 Donald MacIsaac age 7, born in the county ....................................b1834c John MacIsaac age 5, born in the county .......................................b1836c Catherine MacIsaac age 2, born in the county ................................b1839c _______________________________________________________________________________ 1851 Census Ardnamurchan, Acharacle, Moidart, Inverness-shire (Taken 30th March 1851) Address, Kylemore (Acharacle) 1/2 acre Crofter - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Angus McIsaac age 63, Agricultural labourer, born in the county ...........b1795c Mary McIsaac age 52, born in the county ............................................b1799c, (McDonald) John McIsaac age 28, born in the county ... .......................................b1822c Rodrick (sic) McIsaac age 26, born in the county .. ...............................b1824c Mary McIsaac age 21, born in the county ............................................b1830c <(Donald McIsaac age 17, born in the county missing from household....b1834c> John McIsaac age 14, born in the county .............................................b1836c Catherine McIsaac age 12, born in the county .......................................b1839c Ronald McIsaac age 9, born in the county .............................................b1842c ___________________________________________________________________________________ The Roman Catholic Baptismal Register of Mingarry in Moidart, first recording, 1829. ___________________________________________________________________________________ 1) "John McIsaac, born 19 March 1836, the lawful child of Angus McIsaac and of Mary McDonald, Kylesmore, was baptised by me 21 March 1836; sponsor was John McDonald, Merchant Kylesmore Alexr. McDonald Priest" 2) "Ranald lawful son of Angus McIsaac and Mary McDonald, Caolas, born 17 Augt 1841 was baptised by me on the 18th, ditto, Sponsor was John McDonald, Dorlin (?) Ranald Rankin (priest)" Portphilip 1852 3) "Catherine lawful daughter of Angus McDonald and Mary McDonald, Caolasmore was born on 11 November and baptised 20th November 1838, Sponsors Archy and Ann McDonald, Glenuig" _____________________________________________________________________________________ 1831 4) "April 10, I have this day baptised Duncan MacIsaac, born same day the son of A----- MacIsaac and Mary McDonald his wife residing at Kylesmore, Allan MacDonald residing at Kylesbeg being Sponsor" _______________________________________________________________________________________ At 03:22 PM 5/9/00 +0000, you wrote: >Hello all > >This is where I am at.... > >Ranald MacIsaac MacDonald, born 1754, died 1859. Married Janet >Cameron who was born 1783, died 1863. Ranald came from ? in Scotland >to ? in Ireland, then came to Canada, specifically, to Glengarry >County, Ontario. When? I don't know. > >Any tips or info. would be greatly appreciated! I am very new at >this and so am a bit overwhelmed. > >Also, please, does anyone know where I can obtain a Clan Donald (or >is there a Clan Ranald?) book in the USA? I can only seem to find >them in Scotland via internet. I haven't a credit card (thru choice) >so ordering online is not an option for me. > >Can anyone recommend a REALLY good book on the history of Scotland? >I am new as I stated before and am finding the history/language >confusing and would like to learn more of the history so I can >understand it. > >Thank you! > >Christine > > > >------------------------------------------------------- > >This message was sent to you by the Scots Origins User Discussion Group, >to reply scots-origins@eGroups.com > >To unsubscribe send a blank email to: scots-origins-unsubscribe@eGroups.com *Angus Macisaac b 1798c Inverness-shire, Scotland *Mary McDonald, b 1805c Married 1823c ________________________________________________________________________________ ----They were one of the 6 Roman Catholic families who worked on the "Estate of W. Robertson of Kinlochmoidart", Glen Moidart, Inverness-shire Scotland, (South West Coast) at a property called Kylesmore, (Caolasmore Gaelic), 1/2 acre as a crofter..... It is thought that the Macisaac's were invited by the McDonald Clan to change their name from Macisaac to closer associate with the McDonald's they were travelling with to Australia. It could have been also popular to change their name to the wives surname, this is unknown. The Macisaac's were the traditional Balliffs for the Clan Ranald. Glen Moidart was the traditional seat for the Macisaac's in Scotland and was of Historical significance to this Sept of the McDonald Clan. The Macisaac's were traditionally Catholic. _________________________________________________________________________________ These are the children: 1. John McDonald (Macisaac) b 1824c Kylesmore, Inverness-shire, 2. Roderick McDonald (Macisaac) b 1826c Kinlochmoidart, Glen Moidart, Inverness-shire (could be 1822), 3. Mary McDonald (Macisaac) b 1830c 4. Duncan Macisaac b April 10, 1831, died before 1841 I have this day baptised Duncan MacIsaac, born same day the son of A----- MacIsaac and Mary McDonald his wife residing at Kylesmore, Allan MacDonald residing at Kylesbeg being Sponsor 5. Donald McDonald (Macisaak) b 1835c Kylesmore, Inverness-shire 6. John McDonald (Macisaak) b 19 March 1836c Kylesmore, Inverness-shire ( a spare called Ewan also?) born 19 March 1836, the lawful child of Angus McIsaac and of Mary McDonald, Kylesmore, was baptised by me 21 March 1836; sponsor was John McDonald, Merchant Kylesmore Alexr. McDonald Priest" 7. Catherine McDonald (Macisaak) b 11 Nov, 1838c Kylesmore, Inverness-shire (Kate) Catherine lawful daughter of Angus McDonald and Mary McDonald, Caolasmore was born on 11 November and baptised 20th November 1838, Sponsors Archy and Ann McDonald, Glenuig 8. Ranald McDonald (Macisaak) b 17 Aug 1841c Kylesmore, Inverness-shire Ranald lawful son of Angus McIsaac and Mary McDonald, Caolas, born 17 Augt 1841 was baptised by me on the 18th, ditto, Sponsor was John McDonald, Dorlin (?) Ranald Rankin (priest)" Portphilip 1852 _______________________________________________________________________________ Note: All of the 6 HIES (Highland Island Emigration Society 1852-1858 "Kinlochmoidart McDonald" families left Scotland in 1852 to leave from Liverpool 13 September 1852 on the "ALLISON" to Geelong VIC Australia arriving on 20 December 1852, quarantined on board till 8 February, 1853. Angus arrived a hale and hearty man. The adults members of the "Angus Macisaak" family had signed a promissory note for 16 pound 4 shillings and 6 pence. The other 5 "Kinlochmoidart McDonald" Families, totalling 40 in all on the ALLISON were: 1. Alexander 34, Flora 33, Mary 8, Catherine 4, Angus 2 2. Mary 50, Allan 28, Donald 24, Mary 26, Mitzi 22, Peggy 20, Kate 18 3. Alexander 44, Mary 43, Alexander 18, John 15, Allan 13, Ann 11, Kate 8, Donald 5 4. Donald 43, Ann 42, Duncan 18, Hugh 16, Margaret 12, John 8, Ann, Flora 3, Mary 14 5. Alexander 48, (Kylesmore), Mary 35, John 13, Margaret 11, Ann 8, Mary 5, Kate 1 4 steamers serviced Raasay; 'Sygnet, "Duntroon', 'Mary Ann McLeod', and 'Islay'. (Cathy McSwain) _______________________________________________________________________________ 2nd generation 10. John McDonald (Macisaac) b1822, Inverness-shire Scotland, Died 31 Jul, 1886 Sutherlands Creek, registration 8202, Farmer, buried Eastern Cemetery, Geelong, 10+. married Margaret McDonald b 1835 in St. Marys Catholic Church, Geelong, VIC 10th January, 1854 Father Michael McDonald, Carpenter Mother, Mary McDonald Witnesses - Eweyn and Sarah McDonald Priest Horatio Geoghegan, Died 14/11/1898, Age 62, buried Eastern Cemetery, Geelong, - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11. Hugh McDonald born 26/02/1855, Geelong, Baptised St. Marys Catholic Church , Died 23 April 1915, age 60 11+. Married Catherine Alisia ??????? Died 26 Feb 1938, aged 74.12. Margaret McDonald, 25/11/1856, Sutherland Creek Baptised St. Marys Catholic Church 12. Margaret McDonald, 25/11/1856, Sutherland Creek Baptised St. Marys Catholic Church 13. Flora Mary McDonald, 15/2/1858, Sutherland Creek Baptised St. Marys Catholic Church 13+. married Eugene Francis O'Connor b 1859 at St Mary's 24th February 1886, reg 805 Parents Daniel O'Connor Grocer and Charlotte McSweeney 130. Flora Kathleen OConnor, b1887 Geelong reg 3454 14. Archibald McDonald, 18/08/1860, Sutherland Creek Baptised St. Marys Catholic Church 14a. Catherine McDonald 15/6/1862, Darriwill, Vic Baptised 20/7/1862 St. Marys Catholic Church Sponsors Sandy & Mary McDonald 15. Mary Ann McDonald, 24/03/1864, Sutherland Creek Baptised St. Marys Catholic Church 16. Duncan McDonald, 12/9/1868, Sutherland Creek Baptised St. Marys Catholic Church 17. Sarah McDonald, 22/06/1870, Sutherland Creek Baptised St. Marys Catholic Church 18. John McDonald, 15/08/1872, Sutherland Creek Baptised St. Marys Catholic Church 19. Michael McDonald 25/10/1874 Darriwill Baptised St. Mary's Catholic Church 1/11/1874 19+. married Maude O'Callaghan b 1872 at St. Mary's Catholic on 28th July 1908, father Bartholomew O'Callaghan, Draper and mother Bolinda (Belinda) Mahoney (Sisters Gertrude Mary b1878 Geelong reg 23169, Laura May b1880 Geelong reg 8992) _______________________________________________________________________________ 20. Roderick McDonald (Macisaac) married Mary Kavanagh in St. Marys Geelong on June 18, 1857, Father Patrick Kavanagh, Wheelwright/Carpenter mother Cathryn Byrne moved to: Sutherland Creek (1861), Lake Bolac (1868) and finally to "Glen Moidart" Berrigan, NSW in 1873 Their children were: 21. Alexander (Angus) b Geelong, VIC 6/4/1858 - m Bridget Ellen Liston in St. Mary's Geelong on 16 May, 1888 - Alexander (Angus) came back from Berrigan (1873) to marry Bridget Liston in 1888) 22. Catherine b NSW 1860 - m William Miller 23. Duncan b Sutherland Creek, VIC 9/6/1861 - m ???? Children Roderick John, Sister Cecilia 24. Julia Ann b Sutherland Creek, VIC12/7/1863 - m John Hetherington St. Mary's Geelong ????? 25. John Patrick b Sutherland Creek, VIC 1/11/1865 d 1897 age 32 - Did he die in Tasmania on 29 Jan 1897? 26. Mary b Lake Bolac, VIC 1868 - m William Miller 5 children D ???? 27. Margaret b Lake Bolac, VIC 1870 happened to Margaret? 28. Flora b ? 1872 d 1893, 21 years 29. Roderick b Berrigan, NSW 1874 d 1891, 17 _______________________________________________________________________________ 30. Mary McDonald (Macisaac) b 1830c Kinlochmoidart, Inverness-shire 40. Duncan Macisaac b April 10, 1831, died before 1841 in Scotland 50. Donald McDonald (Macisaac) b 1835c Kinlochmoidart, Inverness-shire 60. John McDonald (Macisaac) b 19 March 1836c Kylesmore, Inverness-shire Died 1869, reg 6748 70. Catherine McDonald (Macisaac) b 11 Nov, 1838c Kylesmore, Inverness-shire (Kate) 80. Ranald McDonald (Macisaac) b 17 Aug 1841c Kylesmore, Inverness-shire Ronald McDonald, Profession - Farmer, Bachelor, Abode - New South Wales, near Deniliquin Married St Mary's Church Geelong, 8th September, 1881, Susan McDonald, Born - B 1852c Invernessshire, Scotland, Aged - 29, Spinster, Abode - Sutherland's Creek, Parents - James McDonald, Farmer & Margory McDonald Witnesses - Hugh & Annie McDonald. Note: This man, James McDonald, was on the "Araminta" 1852 with his infant daughter and only child Susan, his wife, Annie had died on the Isle of Skye prior to the journey. 911. Mary C McDonald B 1883 NSW reg 24449 912. Jessie McDonald B 1886 NSW reg 27717 913. Julia Marj McDonald b 1888 Geelong, VIC reg 11704 ________________________________________________________________________________ 211. Roderick John McDonald b Little River Geelong b 20 june 1889 212. Patrick McDonald b 1891 213. John Francis McDonald b 14 Jan 1904 214. James McDonald b 1897 215. Augustine McDonald b 1899 d 1974 The above children of Angus/Bridget came back to Geelong Christian Brothers for their schooling. _______________________________________________________________________________