Hi to the group I have been reading this list for a long time and have asked a few and answered a few but I never quite knew how to do what I am now doing. I have tried and tried to find anything about my two gggrandmothers. Both are listed on the marriage certificate of their children, Alexander CAMERON and Jane MACDONALD but on their death certificates their mother's names seem to have been forgotten. When it comes to the death certificate of Alexander CAMERON's father Andrew he is given as single. See below for details. Has anyone else come across such a conundrum and has anyone any ideas on how i can proceed from here? Believe me I would be very grateful as I have almost given up on these familes in despair. Isla Nottingham Whangamata new Zealand Marriage Details On 13th February, 1863 at 23 Hill Street, Anderston, Glasgow. After banns according to the forms of the Free Church of Scotland Alexander Cameron (Mason Journeyman- Bachelor) age 23 of Stonehouse, Hamilton; son of Andrew Cameron (Mason, foreman) and Annie Cameron m/s Rankin (deceased) [marriage to] Jane McDonald (Domestic Servant- Spinster) age 23 of 23 Hill St., Anderston, Glasgow; daughter of Donald McDonald (Superintendent of Police, Ayr) and Christina Mcdonald m/s McCallum. Officiating Minister: Samuel Miller,DD, Minister of Free Church of St. Matthews, Glasgow Witnesses: Thomas Moir and Thomas D. Cameron (Ref. 1863m/Anderston, Glasgow 644/8/58) Death Certificate On 10th February, 1899 at 2 p.m. at 144 Duke Street, Leith Jane Cameron(Married to Alexander Cameron - Builder died aged 59; daughter of Donald McDonald (superintendent of Police - deceased) and Christina McDonald m/s McDonald (sic) (deceased) ®6 Cause of death: Chronic Bronchitis; Asthma Certified by: H.L.Calder, MD Informant Alexander Cameron, Widower, present (ref. 1899d/South Leith 692/2/124 On 21st February, 1912 at 1a.m. at 8 Allan Street Leith Alexander Cameron (builder - Widower of Jane McDonald) died aged 72; son of Andrew Cameron (Contractor, Railways - deceased) and [blank Cameron m/s [blank] (deceased) Cause of death: Hepatic Carcinoma Certified by: L.P.M. Gardener, MB Informant: Donald Cameron, son (present) Ref. 1912d/North Leith 691/1/74 Death Certificate On 14 December 1888, at 2.30 a.m. at 23 Royal Street, Gourock, dist. Gourock, Co. Renfrew, ANDREW CAMERON died aged 75 years. Foreman Labourer. Single. Son of John Cameron, Farm Manager (deceased) and Jane Cameron m.s. Stoddart (deceased). Cause: Acute Pneumonia, 4 days Informant: Sarah Cameron, Sister. Ref: 567/2/184 Information from Charlotte Cowe, researcher Edinburg Death Certificate On 3rd February, 1895 at 9.30 a.m. at Glencoe Cottage, Ayr Donald MacDonald (sic) (supt. of Burgh Police - widower of Elizabeth Kennedy) died aged 84; son of Ewen Macdonald (Mason - deceased) and Jane Macdonald m/s McMaster (deceased) Cause of Death: Influenza, 5 days; Pneumonia 1 day Certified by Robert B. Erskine,MD Informant Ewen Cameron, Grandson, 144 duke Street, Leith