In a message dated 09/07/00 12:19:00 PM Central Daylight Time, Preston61@aol.com writes: << Does anyone know how you can tell whether a Fraser family is a "Fraser of Lovat?" I've got a line on my husband's side that is from Scotland and have been known as Fraser, Frazier, Frizzell, Frissell, and so on, but I've never come across any "Fraser of Lovat." Any ideas? Thanks, Sophia >> The easiest way to tell is your cat will be pregnant and your sheep missing, it its the other way around they are not Lovat. Lovat is from Dingwall area of Ross and Cromerty, just north of Inverness. Lord Lovat was a grand lad who started the commandos during the war. Quite the lad he was. Dave M. PS the joke was to get Bryan going and I am sure he can answer your question.