Hello Carol: I have read your message over a couple of times but I cannot think of any ideas to help you. I have been working on 2 lines of Mac/McLeod's for sometime now and they also have Donald & Murdoch's in their lines. These were very, very common names in the MacLeod lines. I have been trying to collect books called "The MacLeods", there are about 8 in this series but they are not published anymore. I have only been able to find 2 so far in 3 years. The books are not indexed only by names of the different MacLeod Clans. If you ever find yours are from one of these groups, I can try to have a look but it will take time. If you can ever get your hands on one of these books or one of the other sections, I would sure like to swap info with you. My MacLeod's are called the MacLeod's of Raasay & Rigg and I even have problems sorting them out. There is also a Rootsweb list for only the name McLeod. http://www.rootsweb.com/~maillist Good Luck Lorraine Ottawa, Canada Books SECTION 2 - Talisker, Berneray, Luskintyre, Orbost, Hamer, Greshornish, Uilinish and Dalvey. by the Late Rev Dr Donald MacKinnon & Alick Morrison MA (Hons) SECTION 4 - Lewis, Colbecks, Garrabost, Pabbay-Lewis, Arnol, Raasay, Eyre, Rigg, Glen, Marishadder, Westerdale and Tarbat, also an appendix for Auchnagoyle & Colbost. by Alick Morrison MA (Hons)