In a message dated 28/06/00 11:11:04 AM Central Daylight Time, hdckwth@cc.UManitoba.CA writes: << While on this point, I might as well ask my perennial question again: are there generally recognized Gaelic names whose English substitutes are David, Andrew, or William? I know: Donald = Daniel Donald in the Gaelic is Domhnall. As in MacDonald Uisdean = Hugh Patrick = Peter Padrig = Peter or Patric although Peadar means only Peter. Alistair = Alexander Alasdair = Alasdair or Alexander I realize that "Donald" and "Patrick" are themselves English simplifications of the real Gaelic spellings. What I'm really looking for is widely used substitute names, that were used as a matter of practice. Harry Duckworth Gaelic is in blue: English in black (Note accents not shown) Cailean for Colin Catlin or in California Katelin = Cathleen/Kathleen. Catriona for Catherine Gordan for Gordon Ceit for Kate Dughlas for Douglass Eosaph for Joseph Mairi for Mary Marc for Mark Coinneach for Kennith Lachlann for Lachlan Magaidh for Maggie Greum for Graham Murchadh for Murdo Niall for Niel Anndra for Andrew Eoin for Johnathan Iain for Ian or John Peigi for Peggy Pol for Paul Ailos for Alice Artair for Arthur Raibeart for Robert Rut for Ruth Rob for Robert Fearghas for Fergus Seoc for Jock or Jack Seumas for James Sim for Simon Mata for Mathew Micheal for Michael Marc for Mark Luc for Luke Tearlach for Charles There are many more that will just not come to mind. dave M.