This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: McIntosh, Grant, Colston, Smith Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/TeC.2ACE/1413.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Jane, Thank you very much for the suggestion. Kind regards.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/TeC.2ACE/1413.1 Message Board Post: I have a suggestion which may sound very tedious but would probably give results. Order the film of the parish registers for the early 19th century for Nairn at your nearest LDS centre, and take time to go through them carefully looking for a mention of Alexander McIntosh, saddler. Alternatively, all Alexander McIntoshes, note the children and godparents -- note godparents for the Grant children too and you may be able to find an outline of your family. I do hope you will tell us the results if you do this! Best wishes.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/TeC.2ACE/1414 Message Board Post: Hi , My relative Alexader McDonald was living in Chapeltown when listed as a sponsor to births and a witness at weddings in the early 1860s. I've found a Chapeltown in the Highlands near Easter Tulloch and close to Boat of Garten .What census district would that come under? Julia

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: McNEIL, McINTOSH/MacINTOSH, FRASER, Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/TeC.2ACE/1265.3 Message Board Post: Hi there, I have just been reading your query about your MacINTOSH connection, my 3xGt grandfather was born circa. 1806 in Dores, invernesshire, Scotland his name was John Forbes McNEIL, his paternal grandparent's were Angus McNEIL and Marjory McINTOSH/MacINTOSH, married at Dores 4th Oct 1764, I have not yet been able to find out why John had the middle name of FORBES, and I was wondering if it ws the surname of a male ancestor, or the maiden name of a female ancestor, as I have yet to come caroos it anywhere in my early lineage, I have so far found nothing more on either Angus McNEIL or Marjory McINTOSH/MacINTOSH, just thought I'd add my 2c worth, just in case! it seems from what research i ahev doen that the mcINTOSH,McNEIL and FRASER families were all very good at intermarrying, as probably was common of the time. Cheers Jackie (New Zealand)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: McIntosh, Grant, Colston, Smith Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/TeC.2ACE/1413 Message Board Post: Hello all, I need a little help to make a connection and locate some parents. I have an Alexander MCINTOSH born in Scotland living in London, England in 1861 & 1871. It doesn't say where he is born other than Scotland. He was married twice that I know of. His marriage certificate says his father is Alexander McIntosh (occp. Saddler). The verbal record of the family says Alexander came from Nairn/Inverness. Alexander had two girls with his first wife Elizabeth SMITH. A Rachel McIntosh and an Elizabeth McIntosh, both born in London. Alexander MCINTOSH was a BAKER. Alexander had two children with his second wife Elizabeth COLSTON, a Lydia Alice and John Grant. Elizabeth McIntosh (nee COLSTON) was a widow in 1881. The census records quote Alexander McIntosh's birth in 1861 as c. 1833, and in 1871 as c. 1835. He died in January of 1874, and his age is noted as 38 (c. 1836) on the death certificate. In 1881 his daughter Rachel McIntosh from his first marriage was residing with Alexander and Jessie GRANT and family in Suffolk, England, and Rachel is noted as NIECE. I found a record of a marriage for an Alexander GRANT and Jessie MACKINTOSH on June 1, 1849 in Nairn, along with christenings of all of their children in Nairn. I have also found this GRANT family in the 1861 and 1871 census living at 66/68 High Street in Nairn, Scotland. Alexander GRANT was noted as a Baker. Jessie GRANT (nee McIntosh) birth is noted as c. 1825 in Inverness in both the 1861 & 1871 Scottish census, and as c. 1827 in the 1881 British census, but her place of birth still says Inverness. I'm trying to find the parent's of Alexander and Jessie MCINTOSH. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/TeC.2ACE/1411.1.1.2 Message Board Post: Hi Joan, The one family remaining at Ardochy in the 1851 Census is as follows: -Flora McDONELL or GRANT,head of household,widow,age 71. -Allan GRANT,son,unm,34. -Allan GRANT,grandson,13. -Ann GRANT,daughter,unm.,36. Ardochy,as far as I can ascertain,lay on the south side of Loch Garry,between Greenfield and Laddy.On modern maps there is a house(?)in the middle of the forest clearing,which is called "South Ardachy".I believe this is where the farm settlement stood,or was close by.As Jane has suggested,watch you don't get it confused with a farm called Ardachy/Ardochy which is just outside Fort Augustus.To confuse things even further,there is a farm called Ardachvie a few miles away. I think you are right in saying that a Mr Ellice owned the estate that Ardochy stood on,but I don't really know anything about his affairs.Until the mid 1820s,I believe that Ardochy was rented/owned by a wealthy sheep farmer called Gillespie,whose family originated from the south of Scotland. Your Kennedys were one of a large number of an extended tribe,of approx.20 households,which stretched from the shores of Loch Garry,round the side of Loch Lochy as far as Clunes.In the 18th century they had a reputation for lawlessness,and were frequently involved in sheep and cattle theft.Here are a few cases I have come across,for instance: -1745.Eight Kennedy men from the neighbourhood were declared Outlaws,when they failed to appear at Court in Inverness on charges of armed theft and robbery. -1749.Kenneth dhu Kennedy,Laggan,habitual thief,was hung at Inverness. -1753.John breck Kennedy,a notorious thief and Army deserter,was hung at Inverlochy for cattle theft. -1760.John McIan bain Kennedy,Glasterbeg,was banished for life for horse and cow stealing. -1764.Banished for 14 years for cattle theft - Duncan dow Kennedy,son of Angus ban,Killinan. -1778.Hainy Kennedy,Lagganachadrome,declared insane and imprisoned at Inverness for the murder of her son. -1780.Angus Kennedy imprisoned for the habitual theft of cattle and money.On the night of his imprisonment,his friends took revenge on the Trial witnesses by slitting the bellies of their cows. -1782.Angus bain Kennedy,John bain Kennedy,John roy Kennedy,and Archibald bain Kennedy,all of Shian,declared Outlaws for not appearing at their Trial in Inverness. -1783.Ronald dow Kennedy,Shian,charged with theft and reset,along with the previously mentioned Angus bain Kennedy(his brother),John roy Kennedy, John buie Kennedy,and Archibald buie Kennedy.The same year,Katherine Kennedy,wife of Angus bain,and Katherine McDonnell,wife of his brother John bain,were found guilty of assaulting a Sheriff Officer who was trying to arrest their servant. How grandad Alexander,80 in the 1841 Census,relates to any of these miscreants is difficult to say,but I am sure there will be some sort of relationship. At this period in the 18th century,Ardochy and neighbourhood was still part of the Estate of McDonell of Glengarry.A Rental of 1762 reveals the following Kennedy households living on the Estate: -CLARNA and GLASTERBEG:Donald Kennedy,Alexander Kennedy,and Kenneth Kennedy. -KINLOCH and EASTER GLASTER:Archibald Kennedy. -CULROSS:Alexander Kennedy,Angus Kennedy,and John Kennedy. -PITMAGLASTER:Ewan Kennedy. -BALLACHAN:Angus Kennedy and John Kennedy. -GARRIGOULACH:John Kennedy and Ewan Kennedy. -"ARDACHIE":John McKivar,Alexander McDonell,Donald McDonell,and Angus McDonell. Hope this has been of interest, Cheers,Chris.

Can someone help me find the parents of John McKenzie b.1816 who married Isabella Michie. He is living with his wife's parents. I could not find their marriage license. Hoping to find it would show John McKenzie parents. On 1841 census 2 other children are listed Janet McCullech female age 7 I have no idea who they are Mary McCullech female age 5 Thank you for any help. Lois Passenger List American Airlines Feb.28,1884. Ship S.SOhio, Captain Henry Marriton, Voyage from Liverpool. McKenzie,Roderick 42 lab. ( on 1841 census age 1) Marion 34 wife ( her maiden name was believe Gillis I'm still trying to find their marriage) Bella 15 servant Malcolm 13 lab. John 11 child Christy 7 child Ann 5 child George 3 child Donald Infant Roderick is age 1 on the 1841 Census of Scotland 1841 Census of Scotland,County of Inverness,District of Skye,Parish of Portree, No.of Enumeration District 4,Description of ditto ...as much of the Parish of Portree as lies between Carnistisswaig (can't read)and the head of Loak Portree. District 4 pg.7 Penfiler name of Village,Square,Close,Court,etc. George Michie male age 60 Mason born in Scotland Anne "" female age 55 " " " Mary " age 20 " " " George male age 18 " " " Charles male age 16 " " " William male age 10 " " " Hugh (?)McKinnon male age 10 " " " John McKenzie male age 25 M.L. " " "( this is the father of Roderick) Isabella female age 25 " " " Janet McCullech female age 7 " " " Mary McCullech female age 5 " " " Roderick McKenzie male age 1 " " "

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/TeC.2ACE/292.568 Message Board Post: My grandfather's mother is Janet on his birth certificate and Flora on his death certificate??? - She was married to George Scott, from Spott village, county Haddington 10/6/1875. George was the village teacher and blacksmith. They had seven children- My grandfather, Thomas McMillan Scott (March 10 1891-died August 19 1947) was the youngest. Emigrated to South America, married twice (two Irish women) and kept no contact with his brothers and sisters as far as we know, all emigrated from Scotland - I heard one was in Australia, another in Canada, but haven't been able to confirm any of this. Would this great-grandmother Janet/Jane/Flora MacDonald have anything to do with your search? Hope so - if so, keep in touch.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/TeC.2ACE/1408.2 Message Board Post: I had a look at the 1841 Census for Camiscross,and there were two McLeod families recorded - it looks promising for you: -Donald McLEOD,40,Ag.Lab., -Ann,35, -Kitty,10, -Flory,8, -Ronald,6, -Mary,4, -Margaret,2, -Widow Mary McLEOD,75. And: -John McLEOD,45,Ag.Lab., -Chirsty,35, -Donald,12, -Margaret,10, -Angus,7. Regards,Chris.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/TeC.2ACE/1411.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I think there may be another Ardochy/Ardachy as well, in the parish of Moy/Dalarossie. Im going to list the references I have to this: In April 1769, Dunmaglass and Angus become cautioners in a law burrows that John Macgillivray, the beadle of Dalarossie, will not in future be molested by John MacGillivray vic Niel, Captain Angus Mackintosh of Kyllachy’s servant, living at Ardochy. Also: 12.2.1793 Lizy Macdonald d/o Wm Macdonald and Elspet Mackdougal in Ardachy/Ardochy W John MacG Woodend and Alexr McKilican, Burn Bigg and Alexander and Isobell Mcdonald in Ardachy/Ardochy Donald 26.8.1804 no W Not sure about this: Lt John Fraser [s/o Angus Fraser of Errogie & Jean Fraser of Balnain] and Ann Fraser [d/o Thomas Fraser 5th Gortuleg & Janet Fraser] were married 13 Sept 1766 [Dores OPR]. John obtained a commission in the Fraser Highlanders, disbanded in 1763. Their son Simon [1773-1852] was born at Ardachy, Fort Augustus and became something of a celebrity as a fiddler. Jane

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: KENNEDY /McDONNELL /ALD Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/TeC.2ACE/1411.1.1 Message Board Post: Chris, This is great news. Thank you so much for the look-up, for it lends another factor to the possibility that this is my family. I will look into the Catholic records. I hadn't known they had been kept.... As well, knowing that all but one family departs, offers a possibility that the 6 families may have travelled together. Might help in the search on the Canada side? I am wondering if you might recall which family remained in Ardochy, or if they may be a new family residing there in 1851? As well, I am reading in an article published by the Forest Commission on 19 August 2005 (which ironically is my Kennedy mother's birthday), of the adjacent village of Dangean, in the 1841 Census spelled Dangain. Recently discovered deep in the Glengarry Forest, and now preserved and open to the public to visit there. In my research of available maps, online, it seems that Ardochy village also disappeared. References to it being part of the estate of Edward Ellice, I see, but I have still to find a location for it. Ardochy Hunting Lodge possibly on the Loch Garry? If you, or any others might have this information, I would be most grateful. Best Regards, Joan

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/TeC.2ACE/1411.1 Message Board Post: Hi, I had a look in the 1851 Census for this family,but there is no evidence of them still being resident in the neighbourhood of Ardochy.Interestingly,there are about 6 or 7 households at Ardochy in the 1841 Census,but only one 10 years later. I am not able to give you much assistance over their origins prior to 1841,but the Records of the local Catholic Church are held (copies) at the National Archives of Scotland in Edinburgh,and there should be Births and Marriages recorded from circa 1820. Cheers,Chris.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/TeC.2ACE/1406.1 Message Board Post: Hi Belinda, There is nothing coming up in the 1891 Census which shows that they were still living in Invernesshire,and there are no obvious candidates for George snr.in the 1881 one.There is no listing in the IGI of a George McIntosh/Mackintosh marrying a McFadgen/McFadyen/McFadzean up to 1875,so presumably they must have married after that date. I think your best bet is to go the ScotlandsPeople website (pay to view),and search out George's Birth Certificate - it shouldn't be too difficult.Culloden seems to be stretched out over the Districts of Croy,Daviot and Dunlichty,Petty,and Inverness Town.Once you've found the Certificate,that should give you sufficient info to trace the Marriage Certificate. Good luck, Chris.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/TeC.2ACE/1408.1 Message Board Post: Hi Karen, I'm thinking it might be Camuscross/Camas Crois in the Sleat disrict of the Island of Skye (you will find it on a map on the south of the island,near the Island of Ornsay). I see on the IGI there is a birth recorded for an Angus McLeod on 2 July 1861 to Peggy McLeod,Sleat.(no father mentioned,so possibly he may be illegitimate).It might be worth checking out the Birth Certificate to see if the details tie in. I had a look at the 1861 Census for Camuscross,and in the village there is only one McLeod family recorded(who may,or may not,be related to Peggy/Margaret): -John McLEOD,head of household,mar,60,Ag.Lab.,b.Inverness,Portree. -Chirsty,wife,52,b.Inverness,Sleat. -Catherine,daughter,19,unm.,General Servant,b.Inv.,Sleat. -Duncan,son,unm.,16,General Servant,b.Inv.,Sleat. Regards,Chris.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/TeC.2ACE/1399.1.1.1.1.2.2.2.1 Message Board Post: Hello Yvonne, Edward Heath and my Grandma were first cousins. I'm assuming her father and his mother were brother and sister. Are you a Pantony? Do you know any Pantony family history?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/TeC.2ACE/1412 Message Board Post: When I promised to look at my limited record last night I didn't realise how difficult it was reading photo copies of photocopies of over 150 year old records Here's some that could be of interest from the priests notes Alexander Fraser ,lawful son of Alexander Fraser and Catherine Macdonald born 15 June 1863 baptised 28 June 1863 John Cameron lawful son of Alex Cameron and Mary MacDonald Fort Augustusborn 22December 1840 baptised 1857 and his sister Isabella Cameron born 1855 Sponsor of both James Stoddart Ann Hepburn, daughter of John Hepburn and Ann Macdonald, Fort Augustus June 20 1855 Sponsor Catherine Macdonald Margaret, lawful daughter of Alex McArthur and Catherine Macdonald Old Ground [I believe this is Invergarry} 2 March 1867 Sponsor: John McLellan Morarelizabeth, lawful daughter of Alex Macdonell and Anne Macdonald Loch? 8 July 1866 Sponsor Ewen John McEachen Sarah, lawful daughter of John McDonald and Mary McDonald [ though I know she is a McDonell] 30 May 1873 Sponsor; Mrs Grant Hope this is of some help. I have some other records I could locate if any were interested Julia

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/TeC.2ACE/1399.1.1.1.1.2.2.2 Message Board Post: Hi Marion, Edward HEATH was my 4th cousin once removed. Regards from Yvonne.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/TeC.2ACE/1399.1.1.1.1.2.2 Message Board Post: Adele. My Grandmother's name was Gertrude Margaret Pantony born Sept 1896 in Thanet, Kent, England. She had a brother Leslie who went to Australia. She may have also had a sister who lived to be 101yrs. This sister may have lived at Margate. Does any of this sound familiar to you? I was told that after Grandma moved to Canada in 1917 she wrote letters to her cousin Edward Heath.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/TeC.2ACE/1405.1 Message Board Post: Your name got me. My Grandmothers name was Gertrude Margaret PANTONY. Born Sept 1896 Thanet, Kent, England. I know she had a brother named Leslie who went to Australia. My Grandmother married a Canadian Soldier during WW1 and came to Canada in 1917. Does any of this sound familiar to you? I have an Aunt who said she may also have had a sister in Margate. ????This sister may have lived to be 101yrs old.

Those of you listers searching for information on Kennedys etc., (Catholic) have you tried the Scottish Catholic Archives, Columbia House, 16, Drummond Place, Edinburgh EH3 6PL. The Curator was, and still might be, Dr. Christine Johnson. Elizabeth.