This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/TeC.2ACE/1415.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks Kate, They had moved on by 1851 so I couldn't find them there. Also I have found familysearch.com to be of very limited help in researching Catholic families (as these people were) due to lack of official records of Catholics of that period. Thanks anyway for the suggestions. Alastair

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: MCINNES - MCPHERSON - CAMERON - CHISHOLM Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/TeC.2ACE/1415.1 Message Board Post: Relationships and marital status are not noted in the 1841 census. sometimes a women is noted as widow. The only thing you can do is see if he is head of household. I have a family where the mother was noted in her maiden name. Also you can check on www.familysearch.com for the birth of the lad with a father of that name. Other possibility is: an you find them in the 1851 census? Relationships and marital status are noted in 1851. Kate

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg//TeC.2ACE/1416.1 Message Board Post: Oops.......the marriage date of Thomas and Ann should read 1848 and not 1948....Hugh Tulloch was born in 1851. John circa 1849 or later.

Hi Listers Anyone out there searching or have information on Farquhar Graham b.1799 and Mary Lamond(T) b. 1798. Period 1790 to 1855 Jim Graham --------------------------------- Win a BlackBerry device from O2 with Yahoo!. Enter now.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/TeC.2ACE/1408.2.1.2 Message Board Post: Oops - just when I speculated there wouldn't be anymore information available on the family,I came across the Marriage entries in the Parish Records for John McLeod and Christy McInnes. They were married in Sleat Parish on 21 February 1827,and in Portree Parish on the 12 February 1827.The Portree Record reveals that John came from Coillemore in the Parish of Portree,and Christy from Camisecross (in Sleat). The Birth records in Portree only start in 1800,which was a good few years after John was born.However,there is a listing of a Donald born in February 1802 to Duncan McLeod and Annabella Matheson in Coillemore (Duncan's brother,presumably).Had a quick look for Coillemore on a map of the Portree area - couldn't find it,but it will be there somewhere.Incidentally,the Sleat birth records only start in 1813,hence no trace of Christy's baptism. Regards,Chris.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/TeC.2ACE/1411.1.1.2.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Joan, I had read that the Gillespies had rented Glenquoich and Greenfield in the late 1700s,and reading that they had farmed Ardochy as well,I assumed it was the Ardochy next to Greenfield.That will teach me to add 2 and 2 together,and get 5! Regarding the names:In an area where many people with the same surname lived,and where there was only a limited number of first names to call children (traditionally after the grandparents),it was a real benefit to have these wee added descriptions added to your name to identify you from your neighbour.Hence "ban/bain" means you had fair hair,"dhu/dow "- black hair,"don" - brown,"roy "- red,"breck" - a freckled or spotty complexion,and "og" - the younger (most often used when the father had the same first name). As a rule these extras to the names lasted well into the 19th century,but unfortunately for us,disappear generally from official records in the late 1700s,along with those long patronomic names which are very useful in tracing families back a further hundred years or so.I mentioned the 8 Kennedys declared outlaws in 1745 - they are good examples: -Duncan McCoinich alias KENNEDY (Duncan,son of Duncan),who was "son-in-law to Glengarry's Pyper" in Wester Aberchalder. -Kenneth KENNEDY McInish vic Conchie (Kenneth, son of Angus,son of Duncan),at Glester of Clunes. -Kenneth KENNEDY in Glesterbeg. -Duncan KENNEDY alias McAlister vic Conchie (Duncan,son of Alexander,son of Duncan) in Achadrome. -Duncan's brother Angus,also in Achadrome. -Duncan's other brother Archibald,also in Achadrome. -John McEan vic Ean dow KENNEDY (John,son of John,son of black-haired John),in Achadrome. -John bain KENNEDY,alias McEan vic Ean duie (fair-haired John - seemingly a brother of the previous entry),also in Achadrome. I don't believe that the Kennedys were picked upon because of their Religion or political beliefs,as I would imagine that many of them in the 1700s would have been nominally Protestant anyway,and only likely to have changed their religion through intermarrying with the McDonnells.Certainly they weren't the only Tribe or Clan involved in serious crime - the McDonells had their fair share of bad yins,as did the Camerons,McPhees,and McMillans in neighbouring Lochaber. For the poor in the Highlands,their cattle was the sole means of providing nutrition for the family,and when the cows calved,the sole means of generating income to pay for the next year's rent.For anybody,especially a neighbour,to sneak up in the middle of the night and steal their cows was a despicable act against a community with so little in the first place.Cattle thieves,whatever their Clan or religion,were universally despised and feared by all decent,hard-working Highlanders. I am not too up on the circumstances and conditions of life in Glengarry in the 1840s,though I am sure it didn't differ too much from the rest of the Highlands at the time.Indifferent Landlords (often absentees) with little inclination to assist in improving the standard of living of their tenants.Added to this was the failure of the potato crop in the period of 1846 - 9,and widespread famine resulting,and you can understand why emigrating to Canada,Australia,or New Zealand seemed so attractive. Hope this has been of interest, Regards,Chris.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg//TeC.2ACE/1416 Message Board Post: GG grandparents Thomas and Ann McLeod were married in Creich, Sutherland Scot 1948....two known sons were Hugh married to Chirstina Munro and John married to Catherine McLean Helmsdale, Sutherland......Would appreciate any information.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/TeC.2ACE/1403.1.1 Message Board Post: P.S. that was a Freudian slip ---- I meant Scorrybreac Lilian

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/TeC.2ACE/1403.1 Message Board Post: I am researching my tree and my great grandfather John Nicolson left Portree in 1848. We think that his father was a Malcolm Nicolson of sorrybreac who was born in1806 died 1838. He married a Janet MacLeod in 1838 Can you help Lilian

Wilmer, My husband has 2 separate Skye connections. 1) He has MCLEOD, MCPHEE, MACDONALD from Glenelg to Glengarry County, Ontario 1794, on his father's side & 2) GILLIS, NICHOLSON, MCQUEEN from Peinchorran, Portree to mainly Lot 67, P.E.I. 1841. The earliest GILLIS I have is Archibald GILLIS, b. abt. 1809, Skye, m. abt. 1844 to Catherine NICHOLSON, d. March 13, 1888, PEI & was buried at Springton Cemetery. Right now, I am in touch with another GILLIS/NICHOLSON researcher & we are trying to sort out what other similarly named people from Skye to PEI might be connected. Mary Ontario, Canada > Hello: > > I'm just renewing my interests from Skye or the nearby area. If anyone is > searching these names, I'd love to hear from you.

Hello Ray Gavin. Can you tell me if you have worked out the relationship between your Alexander and my Alexander? Regards Greg in New Zealand

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/TeC.2ACE/1415 Message Board Post: Can anyone please tell me if the 1841 census included details of marital status, relationship, place of birth? I am trying to establish the identity of these two; GLEN LI 1 ALEXANDER MACDONALD M 30 AG.LAB. Y GLEN LI 1 JOHN MACDONALD M 2 Y I would like to know if they were father and son and if Alexander was a widower. Is anyone able to help please? Thanks Alastair

Hello: I'm just renewing my interests from Skye or the nearby area. If anyone is searching these names, I'd love to hear from you. GILLIS, Malcom (Malcolm) born possibly 1820s, emigrated from Skye area before 1842, found in area of PEI near Montague, lots 57,59 etc. Browns Creek/Heatherdale Spouse Catharine ROSS MacLEOD, John Duncan (born 1824 Skye or area) emigrated to PEI 1840 (ship Hermione/Heroine?) settled in Heatherdale area (lot 59) buried Valleyfield cemetery. (father named Duncan) MacKAY, Mary his spouse (born 1828 Skye or area) emigrated to PEI 1841 (ship Washington), also buried Valleyfield cemetery I can't yet locate the area in Skye where my GILLIS roots may have originated, not can I yet connect them with the GILLIS settlers of the Selkirk group at Orwell Cove. Anyone who has data on the Selkirk Settlers (Gillis), I would LOVE to hear from you. Thank you, Wilmer Fawcett, Vancouver Canada

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/TeC.2ACE/1408.2.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Karen, I am lucky to have full access to Microfilms of all the Censuses for the West of Scotland at my local library,so it is relatively easy for me to check things out. Unfortunately,I think you are going to be very,very lucky to trace any of the McLeods further back than with the information off John and Chirsty's Death Certificates.There might be some info to be picked up from the relevant Estate Papers (assuming they still exist - the Clan Donald Museum in Sleat might be of use),but they certainly won't be available on the Internet.I suspect you have hit the brick wall that we all encounter! Cheers,Chris.

Hello, Can anyone tell me where Comeiserachoan or Comuserachoan or similar is? When I visited Inverness Library in 2003, I made a note of a Baptism of Malcolm to John McKERCHER and Margaret CAMPBELL 5/1/1796 and am unsure of my writing! (It was a spur of the moment visit to the Library and I wasn't prepared!) I presume it is a Parish and am not even sure that it was in Inverness Shire. Any leads or advice would be of use as I'm new to the Scottish side of my man. Cheers, Prue Gore Tasmania, Australia

Hello from Downunder, Is there someone kind enough to look up in the Avoch Churchyard Publication, the details of 2 McKERCHER headstones, please. They are listed on the Gravestones Index on the Highland FHS website. Many thanks, Prue Gore (nee McKercher) Tasmania, Australia

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: KENNEDY /McDONNELL /ALD Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/TeC.2ACE/1411.1.1.2.1 Message Board Post: O my.....Put to the Horn indeed? This is most interesting, Chris. Thank you, and to Jane too. I have found South Ardachy now, between Greenfield and Laddie Wood, as well as some photos to help place a "face" on it. As well, I see the Ardachy in Boleskine and Abertoff, which I am assuming is the other one? Ironically though, it includes a Thomas/Jessie Gillespie sheep farmer family(1841/1851), though I thought the Gillespie you mentioned had taken over the South Ardochy location of my focus? I may have gotten that confused...so much new information. The Ellice family, as eventual owners of the estate, into this period, is of interest as well because of Edward Ellice's widespread influence in Canada as well, mainly in settling the Hudson Bay Company controversy there, where another family of Alexander Kennedys is significant, though I had thought they originated closer to Aberdeen and the Orkneys, rather than Inverness-shire. That Ellis is a marker name in the descendants of my Kennedy family raises the point. As I attempt to glean further history surrounding this 18thc period of the Clearances, which will take some time, I am forming several questions with this new information. My allegiences may be clouding things a bit, but I might wonder if this tribe of outlaws are called such by those on the other side of the issue? That is, those in the new power who would wish them, as crofters, gone? What/Who is the source of these records? Who owns the Sheriff?? If these Kennedys are Catholic Jacobites, stripped of their ancestral tongue and tradition and livelihood by the recent defeat of Culloden and the massive changes taking place in the glens, and still forced into military service, might they also be cast in such light in order to get them gone? That Ardochy and Daingean both disappear from the map seems significant as well....Our current politics over here surely reflect such manuveuring still? That they would have "lingered" there so long, after the major migrations of the McDonnell clan to Canada/Glengarry---also puzzles me with question. That they are so markedly foresters in North America--not a sign of a cow or sheep anywhere--and known for their integrity also. How fascinating. Maybe they simply tired of the slaughter and turned a pivotal point when they set sail? Now I must also wonder what is the significance of these near "dit' names, too? Bain Ban Breck Dow Dhu Og Roy I have seen them before, of course, but, without good Gàidhlig wonder if they are significant designations that might reveal relationship within family/tribe? Again, thank you for all this help and insight. Joan

My ancestor MALCOLM McKERCHER with his wife Jane, arrived free in Tasmania in 1823. In an Application for a Land Grant in Tasmania, he stated he was born in 1798 in Inverness County. I have a likely OPR entry for a Marriage to Jane JAMIESON 19/7/1818 in Renfrewshire. They were both from the Parish of Legateson, and he was a Ploughman.Their first known child born in 1824 in Tasmania. There are a number of McKercher(ar)s in Perthshire,but they don't seem to connect,so if anyone comes across any reference to McKERCHERS in Inverness Shire (or Renfrewshire) I'd love to hear. Have been searching for his Scottish background for almost 20 years! Prue Gore Tasmana, Australia

Did either of these remain in Scotland, and what happened to the 3rd sibling? You are right it is very tough. Do you have any other clues at all? Judy On 11 Feb 2006, at 23:26, BILL DORGAN wrote: > John (1813-1888) > > Donald (1819-1884)

Listers: I know this is a tough one. I am trying to trace my ancestors in SCOTLAND: Here is all I know: JAMES MACKINTOSH (MACINTOSH, MCINTOSH) was born in or near Inverness, Inverness-shire ± 1781. His was a "weaver" (on his headstone). He married JENNET GRANT in Inverness-shire ± 1810 and had three children. He died in Springville, Nova Scotia in April 1853 at the age of 72. John (1813-1888) Donald (1819-1884) Duncan Thanks for ANY leads. BILL DORGAN email: billdorgan@billdorgan.com website: www.billdorgan.com