Hi Irene, my gg grandmother Mary McDonald married Alexander McPherson in 1857 in an unnamed place in Victoria, and had children Catherine, Janet and Allan. I know absolutely nothing of Mary or Alexander or their families as there are no records of where they came from... but your Mary fits, as do the names of her children! They lived for a period in Duneed, Victoria (near Geelong), and also Mt Pollock near Winchelsea, Victoria. Do you have any more details of Mary? Could she be the same? Kind regards, Val ----- Original Message ----- From: <dannyk@shoal.net.au> To: <SCT-INVERNESS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 8:41 AM Subject: [SCT-INV] McDonalds of Moidart > I am searching for descendants of Donald and Margaret McDonald and > children John, Allan, Angus, Catherine 'Kitty', Hugh/Ewan, > > and Alexander, who came to Australia in 1838/9 sailing from Tobermory, > Isle of Mull. Donald and Margaret had a later child, Mary, born in > Melbourne in 1840. After travelling to Sydney on the British King they > sailed to Victoria on the John Barry. > > Hope someone can help, > > Irene Kerr > > > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.1/272 - Release Date: 1/03/06 > >

Does anyone have information on Alexander Bailey, born 1719, Scottish Highlands north of Inverness. Claims to have been a Castle there during that time. Looking for any information to trace him and his family. He came to America in 1752 after going to Ireland where he married Jane Brown. Two boys were born in Ireland. Matthew born 1749 and William born 1752. Don't have any parents nor siblings names of Alexander. Was there a castle this name 14 miles north of Inverness? Lois Russell USA lois@pulsenet.com

I am searching for descendants of Donald and Margaret McDonald and children John, Allan, Angus, Catherine 'Kitty', Hugh/Ewan, and Alexander, who came to Australia in 1838/9 sailing from Tobermory, Isle of Mull. Donald and Margaret had a later child, Mary, born in Melbourne in 1840. After travelling to Sydney on the British King they sailed to Victoria on the John Barry. Hope someone can help, Irene Kerr

I am searching for descendants of Donald and Margaret McDonald and children John, Allan, Angus, Catherine 'Kitty', Hugh/Ewan, and Alexander, who came to Australia in 1838/9 sailing from Tobermory, Isle of Mull. Donald and Margaret had a later child, Mary, born in Melbourne in 1840. After travelling to Sydney on the British King they sailed to Victoria on the John Barry. Hope someone can help, Irene Kerr

Hello, My g/g/f James McGREGOR was born in Inverness, Inverness Shire to John McGREGOR, occupation Grocer, mother unknown. James occupation when he joined the Grand Lodge of Scotland, Lodge Argyll, Dunoon was Tailor. Later I have found he was in the R.N. then a Coastguardsman in Sussex and Hampshire. He married Abigail A. Montgomery in West Wittering, Sussex and had 11 children. I have information re most members of the family, however the Scottish period and his parents elude me. Would appreciate hearing from someone who may know of this family, I realise it is very difficult with names like John & James McGregor. Regards, Joan. Sydney. Australia.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: macleods Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/TeC.2ACE/296.746 Message Board Post: william macleod {lord or laird of raasay or portree??] had son col. john macleod who had son allister who married mary macpherson . can you see any connection ?? gordon

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/TeC.2ACE/1408.2.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: This is my understanding and please correct me if I am wrong. When a couple intended to marry, the match was announced from the pulpit for three consecutive Sunday's. This allowed for anyone opposing the marriage to voice their concerns. If all went well, they could then be married. The banns were first proclaimed in the bride's parish and then the groom's. I do not have too many copies of what was written on marriages in my family, but here are two for example: 1816 Nov - Jas. Williamson and Jean Sallers both in this parish, give their names upon Saturday, Nov 17th in order to be proclaimed.................married 1807 Dec 18th James Calder private Soldier in the 10th Inverness-shire Militia and Janet Mackintosh both of this Parish being matromonially contracted and regularly proclaimed were married. Sherry Canton, MI

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/TeC.2ACE/1408.2.1.2.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Interestingly, a potential answer to this has just come up on another list I'm on. Is it possible that one of the 'weddings' was actually the banns? They were apparently often transcribed onto the IGI as BOTH being 'weddings' when they were not. This came up in the context of people being married in two different parishes in England. Kind regards, Val

Hi This is the first time on this List I have recently found a Gt Aunt Catherine Jardine Elder born in Lilliesleaf Roxburgh married James Kenneth Anderson in 1950. Catherine was a Nurse at Raigmore Hospital Inverness she aged 40 when she married James, James came from Fort William. Catherine died in 1979 at Lundavra Crescent Fort William James was alive then. (Lundavra Crescent is this the correct spelling of the Crescent) I was wondering if they had any children Is there a Cemetery Fort William, if Catherine was buried there and had a Headstone would I go about getting a Photo of her Headstone I realizes it is a lot to ask. Bob Elder

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/TeC.2ACE/1408.2.1.2.1.2 Message Board Post: You need to remember that* many* of the marriage records in the IGI arent marriages at all, but banns. These were called in the bride and grooms parishes regardless of whether they were members of the established church. This is why you get 'double entries' showing them *married* in two parishes. All it means is that records have survived in both home parishes. You should always check the film or obtain a photocopy of the record. Sometimes the couple were married in another denomination and this could entail a journey to the nearest chapel for that group. Then you may be lucky and get the details of that ceremony complete with the name of the minister. Sometimes banns were called but no marriage took place so you cant assume from an IGI entry that a couple were married, even if it is a regular entry and not a patron submission. Judy

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/TeC.2ACE/1408.2.1.2.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Neil, There is probobly not a great deal I could add,other than to say I have come across many of these double weddings over the years.Check out a reply on the Argyll Forum that I made on 4 June 2005,to a query "Kilmartin/Glassary Marriage Puzzle" ,for another example. Given that it was also traditional for friends and relatives to provide a feast and party for the newly-wedded couple,I can see another big advantage for having a second ceremony! Cheers,Chris.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/TeC.2ACE/1417 Message Board Post: Anyone come across the death or burial for a Donald Fraser in the Fort Augustus or Invemoriston area who, according to family stories, "was accidentally killed in his 108th year". Another version is that he was 107 years, 7 months and 7 days old when he died. He married Katherine McDonald/McDonnell 15 January 1779 in Abertaff Parish. Could not find anything in GRO indexes so he may have died pre 1855. He was the father of Duncan Fraser 1795-1879 who came to NZ. Ian C

Hi - thanks to all who responded to my quest for the obituary of a long lost cousin - Elizabeth Dick - in Kingussie. The response was most appreciated and I indeed was able to get what I was looking for. Regards from Cape Breton - Valerie Dingwall Barrett

Can I suggest what we have here is the Banns being read in both the parish church of the groom and that of the bride. Then the wedding would take place in either church or more likely at home. JOHN SHAW 1 REDWING STREET BROWNS BAY AUCKLAND NZ. PHONE 0064-9-4794090 ----- Original Message ----- From: <neilmurray@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <SCT-INVERNESS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 3:19 AM Subject: Re: Place/Parish - Camcross or Carnoss?? Inverness-shire > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/TeC.2ACE/1408.2.1.2.1.1.1 > > Message Board Post: > > Hello Chris > "It was quite common for Brides and Grooms to be married twice" > .Interesting.I don't think I've come across that one before.What other > information do you have.Thanks. >

Hello: Last week my husband's cousin passed away in Kingussie. Her name was Libby Dick (maiden name MacIsaac). She was the husband of Ronnie Dick. I only recently made contact with her through the great networking of genealogy lists. Would any one be able to provide a copy of her obituary or tell me where I may contact to get a copy . Regards from Cape Breton - Valerie Dingwall Barrett.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/TeC.2ACE/1408.2.1.2.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hello Chris "It was quite common for Brides and Grooms to be married twice" .Interesting.I don't think I've come across that one before.What other information do you have.Thanks.

Hi List, I am Looking for the Birth Matilda Craig who was born in Kilmallie, Inverness, her Husband was James West Taylor they were married in1931, her father was called George Craig he was married to Margaret Macarthur then she married Patrick Macdonald she had three Children that I know off (Angus Craig) - (Elizabeth Craig) - (John Craig) so it could have been about 1920 Thank you DOROTHY HESELTINE

Hello, I am trying to find information regarding Murdoch McDonald. I believe he was born on the Isle of Skye around 1813. The most accurate information I can find comes from the 1861 census. He had moved to Dundee and married Janet Falconer. There are 5 children The census indicates he was 48 and born on Skye. The oldest child Angus was born in 1845 in Kinross and the youngest, Mary, born in 1862. Despite numerous and varied searches I am unable to find record of birth, marriage or death for Murdoch. If anyone has any information I would be very grateful. Best regards, Paul

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/TeC.2ACE/1408.2.1.2.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Karen, Regarding the first entries in the Parish Records,I think I should have more accurately said "a good few months after John was born".The Census Entries would seem to indicate that he was born in 1799 or 1800.No ages given in the marriage listings. It was quite common for Brides and Grooms to be married twice,especially if they came from different Parishes.It was deemed important to be married in one's own church by your own Minister,in front of old neighbours and friends.With travel so difficult at this period,it wouldn't be such an easy task to bundle an old granny onto the back of a cart,and take her to a single wedding ceremony. Incidentally,regarding John's home in Coillemore,you will find it to the south of the Parish of Portree,lying between Loch Inord and the head of Loch Sliagachan.I checked out the first Censuses to see if any of his family were still there: CENSUS 1841:Portree. At Tormichraig: -Annabella McLEOD,60,Independant,born in this County(Inverness). -Murdo,36,born in this County. CENSUS 1851:Portree. At Camagreggan: -Annabella McLEOD,head of household,widow,82,Pauper Crofter's Wife,b.Inv.,Portree. -Michael MADDON,grandson,11,Pauper,b.Ireland. Cheers,Chris.

Hi Chris, I have been watching this thread and I found your explanation of names interesting. I have a Scottish convict named Donald Kennedy. Here is a little about him. I don't think many people would have had an ancestor who was "whipped through the streets of Inverness, the stripes falling upon his naked back". He also had the pleasure of looking forward to the event, as the sentence which was passed on 23rd April, 1790 was ordered to be carried out two weeks later, on 7th May. I wonder if you could give me the explanation of the extra name given to him, probably a place name (?), also the others sentenced with him. Donald was about 30 years of age. Donald Kennedy, alias Donald in Risch (or Riach) was sentenced with three others - Donald McDonald, alias Donald the Duke, Roderick McDonald alias McJames Vic Gorry and John Dow Kennedy, son of Alexander Breck Kennedy of the Strian of Glengarry. After the whipping they were returned to the Tolbooth of Inverness to await transportation for Life to the colony of New South Wales, Australia. They were found to have stolen no less than ten horses from as many farms in the area of the Braes of Lochalsh, Shire of Ross. I have a copy of the whole trial. Happy if you could help with these extra names. Donald was my ggg.grandfather and did very well for himself in Australia. Thanks, Shirley in Sydney > Regarding the names:In an area where many people with the same surname > lived,and where there was only a limited number of first names to call > children (traditionally after the grandparents),it was a real benefit to > have these wee added descriptions added to your name to identify you from > your neighbour.Hence "ban/bain" means you had fair hair,"dhu/dow "- black > hair,"don" - brown,"roy "- red,"breck" - a freckled or spotty > complexion,and "og" - the younger (most often used when the father had the > same first name). > > As a rule these extras to the names lasted well into the 19th century,but > unfortunately for us,disappear generally from official records in the late > 1700s,along with those long patronomic names which are very useful in > tracing families back a further hundred years or so.I mentioned the 8 > Kennedys declared outlaws in 1745 - they are good examples: > -Duncan McCoinich alias KENNEDY (Duncan,son of Duncan),who was "son-in-law > to Glengarry's Pyper" in Wester Aberchalder. > -Kenneth KENNEDY McInish vic Conchie (Kenneth, son of Angus,son of > Duncan),at Glester of Clunes. > -Kenneth KENNEDY in Glesterbeg. > -Duncan KENNEDY alias McAlister vic Conchie (Duncan,son of Alexander,son > of Duncan) in Achadrome. > -Duncan's brother Angus,also in Achadrome. > -Duncan's other brother Archibald,also in Achadrome. > -John McEan vic Ean dow KENNEDY (John,son of John,son of black-haired > John),in Achadrome. > -John bain KENNEDY,alias McEan vic Ean duie (fair-haired John - seemingly > a brother of the previous entry),also in Achadrome. > > I don't believe that the Kennedys were picked upon because of their > Religion or political beliefs,as I would imagine that many of them in the > 1700s would have been nominally Protestant anyway,and only likely to have > changed their religion through intermarrying with the McDonnells.Certainly > they weren't the only Tribe or Clan involved in serious crime - the > McDonells had their fair share of bad yins,as did the Camerons,McPhees,and > McMillans in neighbouring Lochaber. > > For the poor in the Highlands,their cattle was the sole means of providing > nutrition for the family,and when the cows calved,the sole means of > generating income to pay for the next year's rent.For anybody,especially a > neighbour,to sneak up in the middle of the night and steal their cows was > a despicable act against a community with so little in the first > place.Cattle thieves,whatever their Clan or religion,were universally > despised and feared by all decent,hard-working Highlanders. > > I am not too up on the circumstances and conditions of life in Glengarry > in the 1840s,though I am sure it didn't differ too much from the rest of > the Highlands at the time.Indifferent Landlords (often absentees) with > little inclination to assist in improving the standard of living of their > tenants.Added to this was the failure of the potato crop in the period of > 1846 - 9,and widespread famine resulting,and you can understand why > emigrating to Canada,Australia,or New Zealand seemed so attractive. > > Hope this has been of interest, > > Regards,Chris. > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > >