Charles, Sometime ago you published one of Willie story [sorry, I can't remember the no.]which referred to a McCrimmon being at Moy Hall around 1745. Here's a reference I've just found to a McCrimmon related to the Skye family being at Moy Hall at about the right time. http://www.niagara.com/~robbins/mcrimmon.htm#_Hlk444952523 Regards, Rosanne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles F. Larimer" <clarimer@prodigy.net> To: <SCT-INVERNESS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 9:41 PM Subject: [SCT-INV-L] Tales of Dunlichity #21 > Tales of Dunlichity - The Stories of Willie MacQueen > Copyright © 1997, William MacQueen, Charles F. Larimer > > To see pictures of Willie MacQueen visit my web site at > http://pages.prodigy.net/clarimer/ > > > The Beggar and the Beggar's Wife > > Now, I'll tell you another story - true story, perhaps not in every detail > or the way it was said, but it's the truth. > > There were hawkers that used to come around this part. There was a large > family of them. I'm talking about the early 1920s. We remember them quite > well. Chrissie, my wife and I remember them quite well. And, they used to > come here and there and go around begging and the man himself, he begged for > himself. He wasn't bad for begging. But, he would be asking "tobacco" of > anybody. > > And now he had camped along the roadside there on this special occasion. > And, there was a man coming along the road in the morning and he knew that > beggar was out. And, he knew he would be asking for a bit of tobacco. And, > sure enough when the man came up to him, he asked him for a bit of tobacco. > "Oh" said the man "the very thing I was going to ask you for. I hadn't a > smoke today" which was the truth, of course. "Oh" said the beggar, "You > should never feel like that." And, he pulled a tin out of his pocket and > there were about 12 pieces in it, that his family and wife and him must have > been mooching - begging around the strath in previous days. And, there the > beggar was with plenty of tobacco and looking for more! > > Now, I think it was the next day to my grand aunt, where my son is now, the > beggar woman called there to peddle her wares. And, my grand aunt - Mary > Smith was her name - she was busy baking girdle scones. Remember the girdle > scones? Maybe you never saw them in America, but those used to be very > good. > > And, the beggar woman opened the door and walked in. There wasn't such a > thing as knocking or ringing the bell, there were no bells anyway. And, she > came in and when she saw the girdle scones she said, "Oh, what would my > family give to get a scone like that for the bairns (children)." > > So my grand aunt wrapped half a dozen scones in a piece of paper and handed > it to the beggar woman. But, of course she was a real beggar. She had a > little pail, a flaggon* she called it and "I wonder what about some milk for > the flaggon because the bairns [children] have nothing. And, the bairns > were off mooching somewhere else you see. > > Oh, the beggar woman gets that, then she wanted a little meal - oatmeal. > And then she gets that and then she wanted a few salt herring to spare. She > was very pleased to get that. And then, she wanted a few potatoes. And > then the beggar woman she asked if she had a bit salt meat in the barrel, > which used to be a common thing in the Highland crofts. So, there was no > end to her asking. > > And of course, whenever she was done of asking, then she tried to sell > something out of the basket she had. It could be needles or pins or thread > or dishes, bowls or cups... And of course, I should have told you that the > bairns were out looking in any dumps to see if they could get old syrup > tins, and the beggar woman's husband Angie, he was a kind of a tinsmith and > he used to put handles on them and go back around selling them to the people > for pennies, you know? But of course, when Woolworth stores came to > Inverness that finished all that trade. > > But, back to the story - and, then the beggar woman was wanting, wanting, > wanting and she said, "Oh, I was wanting to get a sheaf for my horse - haven > 't a thing for the horse." > > "Oh," my aunt said, "you see, my brothers outside." She was keeping house > to two brothers, you see. She was a spinster. Old in years. So, the tinker > was just outside the door and back in she comes. And she says, "Oh, I > wonder would your brothers manage to give me a bit of tobacco for the man. > He didn't have a smoke today!" > > But of course, my grand aunt knew the story from yesterday. And, my grand > aunt lost her temper and she said to her, "What else are you going to be > asking? The more you get, the more you want." > > And my grand aunt said, and to the bargain. "I see you're expecting another > bairn [child]." "Oh yes," said the beggar's wife. "I am indeed, but we > have to fill our bellies with something." > > > *A flaggon was a little tin pail that kept 1-2 pints liquid. > > ========= > > Charlie Fraser Larimer > clarimer@prodigy.net > > > >

Kia ora I am hoping that someone on this list can help me with my MACDONALD family. I have them in Corrybeg which seems to have been a farm. The earliest one so far is Ewen born circa 1776, married Jane/Jean MACMASTER born circa 1778 in Corrybeg. Ewen’s occupation is given as mason and he died Feb 1828 in Corrybeg aged 52. Jane died in Glascow 12 Aug 1853 aged 75. Both are buried in the Parish of Kilmallie Argylshire along with their son Ewen born in Corrybeg circa 1809 died in Corrybeg 28 Oct. 1833. There were four children so far known John, born 15 May 1808 Corrybeg, Ewen circa1809, Donald (my GGgrandfather) born circa 1810 Corrybeg died Ayr 1895, and Ann/Catherine b circa 1812 married Malcolm MACMARTIN a merchant of Alloa, Clackmannan she died 25 Aug. 1857 in Alloa and is buried there. Five of the MACMARTIN children from this marriage are named in my Gggrandfather’s Will. Does anyone out there have any of these connections or can tell me more about Corrybeg? I would really love to hear from you. Isla Nottingham Whangamata New Zealand

Hi Robert, By coincidence I just posted a pretty good photo of the Culloden Monument on my website last night along with one for Urquhart Castle.... http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/bryanfkeddy/Glenplaces.html Bryan - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robert Fraser Andrews wrote: > Dear Friend, > > THE BATTLE OF CULLODEN > WAS FOUGHT ON THIS MOOR > 16TH APRIL, 1746. > THE GRAVES OF THE > GALLANT HIGHLANDERS > WHO FOUGHT FOR > SCOTLAND AND PRINCE CHARLIE > ARE MARKED BY THE > NAMES OF THEIR CLANS. > > The above is the inscription on the present monumental cairn at Culloden Moor. > I post this today so that all will remember tomorrow that day 254 years ago. > If you wish to read more about Culloden please go to http:/thefrasers.com > at the bottom of the page you will find a link named Culloden. > > Regards, > > Robert > > http://www.thefrasers.com > > This site is dedicated to all > people of the name Fraser!! > > Please join in The Fraser Discussion Forum

Dear Friend, THE BATTLE OF CULLODEN WAS FOUGHT ON THIS MOOR 16TH APRIL, 1746. THE GRAVES OF THE GALLANT HIGHLANDERS WHO FOUGHT FOR SCOTLAND AND PRINCE CHARLIE ARE MARKED BY THE NAMES OF THEIR CLANS. The above is the inscription on the present monumental cairn at Culloden Moor. I post this today so that all will remember tomorrow that day 254 years ago. If you wish to read more about Culloden please go to http:/thefrasers.com at the bottom of the page you will find a link named Culloden. Regards, Robert http://www.thefrasers.com This site is dedicated to all people of the name Fraser!! Please join in The Fraser Discussion Forum

Tales of Dunlichity - The Stories of Willie MacQueen Copyright © 1997, William MacQueen, Charles F. Larimer To see pictures of Willie MacQueen visit my web site at http://pages.prodigy.net/clarimer/ The Beggar and the Beggar's Wife Now, I'll tell you another story - true story, perhaps not in every detail or the way it was said, but it's the truth. There were hawkers that used to come around this part. There was a large family of them. I'm talking about the early 1920s. We remember them quite well. Chrissie, my wife and I remember them quite well. And, they used to come here and there and go around begging and the man himself, he begged for himself. He wasn't bad for begging. But, he would be asking "tobacco" of anybody. And now he had camped along the roadside there on this special occasion. And, there was a man coming along the road in the morning and he knew that beggar was out. And, he knew he would be asking for a bit of tobacco. And, sure enough when the man came up to him, he asked him for a bit of tobacco. "Oh" said the man "the very thing I was going to ask you for. I hadn't a smoke today" which was the truth, of course. "Oh" said the beggar, "You should never feel like that." And, he pulled a tin out of his pocket and there were about 12 pieces in it, that his family and wife and him must have been mooching - begging around the strath in previous days. And, there the beggar was with plenty of tobacco and looking for more! Now, I think it was the next day to my grand aunt, where my son is now, the beggar woman called there to peddle her wares. And, my grand aunt - Mary Smith was her name - she was busy baking girdle scones. Remember the girdle scones? Maybe you never saw them in America, but those used to be very good. And, the beggar woman opened the door and walked in. There wasn't such a thing as knocking or ringing the bell, there were no bells anyway. And, she came in and when she saw the girdle scones she said, "Oh, what would my family give to get a scone like that for the bairns (children)." So my grand aunt wrapped half a dozen scones in a piece of paper and handed it to the beggar woman. But, of course she was a real beggar. She had a little pail, a flaggon* she called it and "I wonder what about some milk for the flaggon because the bairns [children] have nothing. And, the bairns were off mooching somewhere else you see. Oh, the beggar woman gets that, then she wanted a little meal - oatmeal. And then she gets that and then she wanted a few salt herring to spare. She was very pleased to get that. And then, she wanted a few potatoes. And then the beggar woman she asked if she had a bit salt meat in the barrel, which used to be a common thing in the Highland crofts. So, there was no end to her asking. And of course, whenever she was done of asking, then she tried to sell something out of the basket she had. It could be needles or pins or thread or dishes, bowls or cups... And of course, I should have told you that the bairns were out looking in any dumps to see if they could get old syrup tins, and the beggar woman's husband Angie, he was a kind of a tinsmith and he used to put handles on them and go back around selling them to the people for pennies, you know? But of course, when Woolworth stores came to Inverness that finished all that trade. But, back to the story - and, then the beggar woman was wanting, wanting, wanting and she said, "Oh, I was wanting to get a sheaf for my horse - haven 't a thing for the horse." "Oh," my aunt said, "you see, my brothers outside." She was keeping house to two brothers, you see. She was a spinster. Old in years. So, the tinker was just outside the door and back in she comes. And she says, "Oh, I wonder would your brothers manage to give me a bit of tobacco for the man. He didn't have a smoke today!" But of course, my grand aunt knew the story from yesterday. And, my grand aunt lost her temper and she said to her, "What else are you going to be asking? The more you get, the more you want." And my grand aunt said, and to the bargain. "I see you're expecting another bairn [child]." "Oh yes," said the beggar's wife. "I am indeed, but we have to fill our bellies with something." *A flaggon was a little tin pail that kept 1-2 pints liquid. ========= Charlie Fraser Larimer clarimer@prodigy.net

Hi, I have been collecting info on MacArthur families in Inverness, and Nairn. They may have come with the Campbells of Cawdor from Islay in the 17th cent perhaps. There were Macarthur 'servitors' to the Campbells, I believe this role was like that of a factor later on, e.g. signing documents, collecting rents..But there were no land-owning Macarthurs or 'lairds', although a large and relatively prosperous family of Macarthurs at Polneach in Cawdor - they seem to have acted as head of the clan in the north (e.g. guarantors for other Macarthurs). I have mention of two Colin Macarthurs, but not with spouse Jean Fraser. Do you think your Catherine Fraser MacArthur was from Argyll or from Inverness? Have you any more information about her? Where in Petty was Charles Campbell born - is his birth registered in the parish records? You imply he married aged 17, this was quite young, although I find a Macarthur in Nairn fathering child at age 16... Best regards, Jane >Colin was b.1818 in Argyll, Father was Charles Campbell b.1798 in Petty >Inverness. Mother was Catherine Fraser MacArthur, think her family were >Lairds and Land Owners. They were married 1815 in Inverness. Believe >Catherine`s parents were Collen MacArthur and Mother was Jean Fraser, other >children were Isabella b.1795 and Margaret b 1802 all born in Inverness. >Would appreciate any help.....Vi.................. > >------=_NextPart_000_0086_01BFA4C6.846A44A0-- > >______________________________

Hi Nick, > My question is: If the names of the parents appear on the list, does > that mean that they were present at the time of the marriage? Not necessarily but they were still the parents. > I have a couple, whose parents may have emigrated, but their names > appear on the certificate, as if they were present. The marriage cert. has nothing to do with who attended. You could think that they were present and if they were witmesses, you could definitely say they were there. Did the parents sign anywhere? regards, Maureen Kuzyk

A general enquiry re marriage certificates. On marriage certificates it is normal to find the names/occupations of the parents of the couple whose marriage was being celebrated. If one or both parents had already died at the time of the marriage, one frequently sees the word deceased after the name. My question is: If the names of the parents appear on the list, does that mean that they were present at the time of the marriage? I have a couple, whose parents may have emigrated, but their names appear on the certificate, as if they were present. Can anyone make any suggestions? TIA Nick Beaton. Las Palmas, Spain.

Hello Listers, I would be grateful to know what kind of educational facilities were available in Skye, particularly in the Portree area during the 1800s. To what extent could the local youth have aspired to a good education?? TIA Nick Beaton. Las Palmas, Spain.

I have just completed the update for the list of natives of Glen Urquhart and Glenmoriston, Scotland to various areas of Pictou, County, N.S. from 1784 to 1890's which was graciously sent to me by Elizabeth Brownell. This update has added a number of names and some genealogy facts about where they settled, married and their children's names etc. and was taken from a number of manuscripts..... If you happen to find a connection or have any further information to add to this page please let me know..... The direct URL to this list is http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/bryanfkeddy/novascotia.html Bryan Keddy Halifax, N.S.

Hi Everyone, Does anyone know whether the Church at Kilmore is still standing? And if the M.I.'s have been transcribed? Debbie Derrick, B.C.

In a message dated 13/04/00 2:11:36 AM Central Daylight Time, ronmck@computech.com.au writes: << Dear Dave, Thank you for your reply to my inquiry concerning the ferryman, Donald McKenzie at Kessock. You mentioned the "Elun Dubh III" which was the ferry when you were younger. Without any local knowledge I really don`t know of the history of the ferry service across the Moray Firth. On marriage and birth documents Donald was listed as the ferryman during the period 1801 to 1812 and I assumed that he probably spent the remainder of his life crossing the waterway. I don`t know whether the ferry in those days would have been a rowing boat or a floating pontoon attached to cables. Would anyone have any idea of the history of the ferry? Best Wishes Ron(Canberra) >> In the 1800 it would of probably been a "Puffer" of some sort. A steam driven engine. The firth is way to big for cables, besides it would block the fishing boats. I remember it was a 15 to 25 minute crossing on the large ferry which I think held 5 cars or so. Dave.M

Tales of Dunlichity - The Stories of Willie MacQueen Copyright © 1997, William MacQueen, Charles F. Larimer To see pictures of Willie MacQueen visit my web site at http://pages.prodigy.net/clarimer/ The Horse and the River Findhorn Now, I'll tell you another story - a true story. They're all true stories I'm telling you. I know I never made any up at all. But, on the River Findhorn from Coignafearn to Cawdor, a distance of maybe, I don't know... maybe 50 miles. there was only one bridge and when people wanted to cross that river, there were special places for crossing, on horseback you see. And, down my grandfather's way, there was a horse. And, if a traveler came who wanted to get across to the other side of the river, or peddlers, or packmen as they called them in those days. They were selling different goods. And, the farmer would give the peddler his horse and the horse would carry the peddler across the river, and he would jump off a horse's back and turn it around and chase it back and it would come back in through the river. But, this particular day, a packman came, a stranger to the farmer and - who apparently wasn't acquainted with the horse and hadn't been on a horse's back at all, and the river was fairly wide. Well, I don't know, but it but 80 or 100 yards wide at the best part. And, the packman was near the middle of the river and the horse started going around in circles. And, the packman didn't know what to do and he must've been a Roman Catholic because he started calling to the Virgin Mary to save him. And, the crofter was standing on the bank that he had left. And he shouted to the packman, "Never mind the Virgin Mary! Pull the other rein, man!" So, he finally got across the river, but the story lasted a long, long, long time. ========= Charlie Fraser Larimer clarimer@prodigy.net

Dear Dave, Thank you for your reply to my inquiry concerning the ferryman, Donald McKenzie at Kessock. You mentioned the "Elun Dubh III" which was the ferry when you were younger. Without any local knowledge I really don`t know of the history of the ferry service across the Moray Firth. On marriage and birth documents Donald was listed as the ferryman during the period 1801 to 1812 and I assumed that he probably spent the remainder of his life crossing the waterway. I don`t know whether the ferry in those days would have been a rowing boat or a floating pontoon attached to cables. Would anyone have any idea of the history of the ferry? Best Wishes Ron(Canberra)

I am trying to find out any information about Donald Campbell and his wife Ann McDonald, here is what I have. Euphemia Campbell my Gr Grandmother was married in Glasgow Scotland to John Wallace in 1871. On their marriage cert. it gave her parents as Donald Campbell and Ann McDonald, both deceased at this time. It also states that Donald was a farmer. I remember my Grandmother telling me many years ago that her mother came from Skye, also in the 1881 census it gives my Gr Grandmother Euphemia Campbell as being born at Daigwall, Isle of Skye.Can anyone make a connection with this family, and where is Daigwall on Skye, is it a village or maybe a farm? Here's hoping someone can help. Alex

I'm seeking connections with a line of MacKinnons from Skye. The information I've gleaned is as follows :- ALEXANDER MacKINNON m. MARY MacINTOSH Their daughter - MARY MacKINNON b.Sleat 1802, d.Lower Breakish, Strath 1875, m.MALCOLM ROBERTSON (1795-1878). Looking forward to hearing from you, Donald A. Robertson, Kyleakin, Isle of Skye

Dear Friend, The site transfer is now complete, or as complete as I can make it at the moment. The Discussion Forum is a much better format than the old one. PLEASE make a note that you do not have to register to use the forum. It is an open forum. Just post messages, no need to register. If anyone wishes to have their family tree posted on the site, or linked to the site, please let me know. I will be away for a couple of weeks starting next week. I should have some new pictures of Scotland and a report to write on a two week trip to Scotland. Best wishes to all, Bob http://www.thefrasers.com This site is dedicated to all people of the name Fraser!! Please join in The Fraser Discussion Forum

Hi Bryan, A Husbandman was a tenant farmer but it is an expression more commonly seen in England. In the context of the Highlands, he would have been a bit more affluent than a crofter but not nearly as grand as a Tacksman, who although technically a tenant was really a Laird, usually a close kinsman of the Clan chief and in England would have had the same sort of landholding as a Yeoman who was also called a Squire, depending on the size of his landholding or his modesty (such a landholding being owned as opposed to being rented). Marital status would not be the cause of a particular term being used, but probably was the reason why the poor fellow would have been working himself into the ground to feed all those mouths!! Regards, Mark, Genealogist: Clan Sutherland Co-Genealogist: Clan Mackenzie Professional Genealogist specialising in the Highlands and 18th century see my web-site: http://www.highland-family-heritage.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: Bryan Keddy <bryanfkeddy@ns.sympatico.ca> To: <SCT-INVERNESS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 9:18 AM Subject: [SCT-INV-L] Husbandman??? > >From the article on the Jacobite Exciles it show occupations before the > rebellion.....can someone please tell me what a Husbandman is????? > > Thanks, > > Bryan Keddy > Halifax, N.S. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- > >

Tales of Dunlichity - The Stories of Willie MacQueen Copyright © 1997, William MacQueen, Charles F. Larimer To see pictures of Willie MacQueen visit my web site at http://pages.prodigy.net/clarimer/ The Battle Of Corunna I had another relative, James Cameron ... I should have told you ... He was in the Peninsular War. And, was at the Battle of Corunna. You would have heard of the Battle of Corunna in the history of Scotland, or the Peninsular War against Napoleon. That was in 1812. You'd have heard the poem, "Not a drum was heard, Not a funeral note in our course to the ramparts we hurried, Not a soldier discharged his farewell shot Over the grave of the hero we buried." That was General Sir John Moore. That was the man - he was the commander of the British Army and he was killed. "We buried him darkly, at the dead of night, The sods with our bayonets turning and the struggling moonbeams misty light and the lantern was dimly burning. Few and short were the prayers we said. As we spoke, not a word of sorrow, but steadfastly gazed in the face of the dead and bitterly thought of the morrow." ========= Charlie Fraser Larimer clarimer@prodigy.net

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0086_01BFA4C6.846A44A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ------=_NextPart_000_0086_01BFA4C6.846A44A0 Content-Type: message/rfc822; name="Colin Campbell.Jura Small Isles.eml" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Colin Campbell.Jura Small Isles.eml" From: "Colin Merrett" <colvi@acr.net.au> To: <CAMPBELL-admin@rootsweb.com> Subject: Colin Campbell.Jura Small Isles Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 21:28:09 +1000 Organization: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Unsent: 1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Can anyone give info on this part of my tree? 1881 cencus tells me my Gt.Grandfather`s brother Colin Campbell was a Catechist and schoolmaster in Jura. On son, Colin Archibald`s birth certificate in 1866 his occupation was Society Schoolmaster. Mother was Jessie Taylor Campbell and date of their marriage was Jan. 1864 at Jura. Other children were Jessie Flora Mary b 1868 Ann Mumm b.1865 Colin Archibald 1866 Donald Malcolm 1870. All children born in Jura, the small Isles in Scotland. Colin was b.1818 in Argyll, Father was Charles Campbell b.1798 in Petty Inverness. Mother was Catherine Fraser MacArthur, think her family were Lairds and Land Owners. They were married 1815 in Inverness. Believe Catherine`s parents were Collen MacArthur and Mother was Jean Fraser, other children were Isabella b.1795 and Margaret b 1802 all born in Inverness. Would appreciate any help.....Vi.................. ------=_NextPart_000_0086_01BFA4C6.846A44A0--