Thought this might help someone looking for Frasers. Death Certificate County of Middlesex, Division of Ailsa Craig (Ontario, Canada) Hugh Fraser Died: 4th July 1893 Age: 84 years Profession: Blacksmith Where Born: Invernesshire Scotland Presbyterian Religion Heather Bastien hbastien@tct.net

Found several copies of the book available at: dogbert.abebooks.com/abe/BookSearch Depending upon where you are, order from the closest retailer. I ordered the one from Illinois - as I live in Arizona and it will save me the international shipping rates. Rob McLean

In a message dated 18/05/00 2:55:48 PM Central Daylight Time, vanderven@stsi.net writes: << Hi Dave, Thank you for responding to my inquiry so quickly. Much of my information (i.e., the Scots Guards from Inverness) has been collected from various genealogical sites on the internet, so there is definitely a margin for error! One such site states they have "researched the Scot military units who fought for the Royalists at both Dunbar (1650) and Worcester (1661) and found that only one Scot unit was in bith: The Scots Guards (The Foote Regiment), and this unit was from Inverness-Shire." One of the differences of the armed forces in Europe and those of the New World is that ours have hundreds of more years to screw up the system and loose documents in triplicate. Names of regiments have changed all through history as they were imalgimated, reduced, regrouped etc. Since WW II the Highland division has lost many of it's regiments for cost cutting reasons etc. Royal is a title often added to a British, or Scootish Regiment as an honour or by who raised the regiment. Below I have listed some of the web pages. Please note that I am not saying your particular regiment, existed or did not under this name. What I am saying is it is a very interesting search topic. <A HREF="http://www.du.edu/~tomills/military/uk/bargxref.htm">British Army Index of Regimental Web Sites</A> <A HREF="http://regiments.org/milhist/uk/uk.htm#pro">United Kingdom (British Empire & Commonwealth Land Forces)</A> <A HREF="http://www-saw.arts.ed.ac.uk/">The Scots at War Title Page</A> <A HREF="http://regiments.org/milhist/">Land Forces of Britain, the Empire and Commonwealth</A> <A HREF="http://regiments.org/_vti_bin/shtml.dll/milhist/search.htm">Land Forces of the British Empire and Commonwealth: Search</A> <A HREF="http://regiments.org/milhist/uk/bargxref.htm">list of regimental web sites</A> <A HREF="http://www.army.mod.uk/army/organise/infan/highland/main.htm">The Highlanders - Home page</A> I have read the Scots Guards (a variant of the Star of the Order of the Garter?) were formed in 1642 and intended by the King to be his Royal Guard (referred to as the Raising of Argyll's Regiment, when King Charles I commissioned Archibald, marquis of Argyll, to command and send a regiment to Ireland). in 1649 they merged with other regiments to form the "Irish Companies". In 1650 they were renamed the "Lyfe Guard of Foot". They ceased to exist in 1651 after the Battle of Worcester, but were reraised in 1662 after the Restoration of Charles II and formed into the Scottish Regiment of Foot Guards. <A HREF="http://www.virtual-pc.com/journal/royal1st.htm">Royal Scots</A> http://www.virtual-pc.com/journal/royal1st.htm BINGO here is the history of the Royal Scots from 1633 onward. I am so happy to appologise for my lack of knowledge. You were absolutely right in naming the OLDEST Scottish regiment,and here is their web page. They also had a French name. Well Argyle was definitely in the Inverness area, Clan Campbell Archibald and the house of Argyll was an enemy of King Charles I, while his neighbor, The King's loyal servant, James Graham, marquis of Montrose, who was a brilliant "Captain-Genral, fought for King Charles I. (Montrose is also in the area of Inverness.) **By the way just as a trivial matter these were the two Characters played in the movie Rob Roy.** Montrose sped his army north to the Highlands to quell the rebellion and opposition to Charles by Argyle. (Note that Argyle and his line had always had a close association to the House of Stewart and the King as well as his father.) Montrose had in fact signed the National Covenant and the copy bearing his signature is displayed to this day in the Free Church College in Edinburgh. (Are you getting mixed up enough yet?) But when it there came a chance of advancement fighting for the King he (Montrose), broke the faith. Montrose raised a force of Highlanders, Irish, assorted mercenaries and vicious freebooters and by 1644 he was the Kings defender against the Covenanters. Montrose was a brilliant General and his grasp of the situation was quite realistic. He realized that for King Charles to regain control the Campbell's must be driven from their land. So in 1645 he took his force and laid the country to waste. They then began to proceed up the Great Glen to sack Inverness. (Remember the Great Glen was also the sight of Glencoe and the MacDonald massacre.) Montrose and his Royalist force of about 1,500 reached Kilcumin, now called Ft. Augustus, (NOTE NAME CHANGE TO THOSE RESEARCHING FORT AUSTUSTUS AROUND 1600 to 1700) they were advised that The Marquise of Argyll himself was after them with a force of lowland recruits and about 3,000 very angry Campbell's. ( See the song <A HREF="http://www.electricscotland.com/music/campbell.htm">Th e Campbells Are Coming</A> http://www.electricscotland.com/music/campbell.htm ) Montrose marched to Strathherrick where they were advised by Old Lochiel, Chief of the Cameron Clan that Argyll and his men were at Inverlochy. (Tradition sates that the messages were brought by Iain Lom MacDonald a very well known and celebrated Gaelic Bard) Lochiel, a very old man at the time, was a Royal sympathizer, but he had to watch his step because his wife was a Campbell and his Grandson Ewen, his heir had been sent to Argyll for his education. ( Ah ha the plot thickens) Montrose turned in what has been called "one of the most auditious feats in the history of British arms," in a forced march that would sap even the most hardened troops of the time, or for that matter today, through rain and hail they marched down the Great Glen over flooded rivers and streams. The Royalists left Kilcumin/Ft. Augustus, early on the morning of January 31 and reached their destination of at the mouth of Glen Nevis on the dusk of February first. The next morning they fell upon the army of Argyll, (the Covenanting forces of Cromwell under Argyll), Although a superior force who were quite well rested, they broke under the attack. Montrose wrote, " The Rebels could not stand it. But after some resistance at first began to run, whom we pursued for nine miles, altogether making a great slaughter." The Irishmen in Montrose's force were "half-savages, the Royalist Clansmen had a hereditary hate for the Campbell's. Some western clans joined Montrose less from love of the King than there hatred of the sons of Dermid. There was no quarter. What had started as a rout, soon became a bloody massacre. It is said that the Rivers Lochy and Eil were dyed crimson by the bleeding Campbell's as they plied frantically through in their flight for life. Montrose lost an estimates 24 men, the Covenanters, (Argyll), over 1,500 including their commander, Sir Duncan Campbell of Auchinbreck. Montrose's lieutenant, Sir Alexander MacDonal - Alasdair Mac Colla was Auchinbreck's own nephew. Even though related, there was no chance for the Covenanter general. He was dragged bleeding and bound before MacDonald and offer only 2 alternatives, Death by rope or Death by sword. "Da dhui gun aon roghainn" was the grim reply from Auchinbreck. "Two bad choices, one result. He was beheaded by his nephews hand. (TRIVIA) = Inverlochy while a brilliant military maneuver was probably the most shameful slaughter in Highland history, and that is saying a lot. The Marquis of Argyll himself ran and was on his galley on Loch Linnhe when battle broke out. Once defeat was eminent he gave orders to set sail. It may seem hard to understand, but he did have a moral obligation to survive, but it probably did dishearten his troops to see the ship float away. Iain Lom, when confronted by Montrose as to why he did not fight answered," If I were to die who would sing of the great victory." Charles II was crowned at Scone in 1649, the battle of Worcester fought and lost by the King and Montrose and eventually Montrose was captured after the battle of Corbisdale, where he had been betrayed and was taken to Edinburgh and executed. Argyll's tomb lies at the High Kirk of St. Giles across the nave from the bones of Montrose. If you are interested in more let me know and we can look at the men, women, and children slaughtered in the Highlands by the King for practicing other religions than Episcopalian. men were shot, burned at the stake, in front of their wives and children, women were staked to the beach until the tide would roll in and slowly drown them. Knees were broken with chains and hands with thumb screws and other tortures. "What a friend we have in Jesus," was not a song often heard in the Highlands. Well, now you have proof that the armies on both sides of the conflict were recruited in and around the Inverness area, If they fought with Argyll then they were with and not against Cromwell, and if they fought with Montrose then they were with the King. Montrose finally lost at the battle at Corbisdale. By the way, King Charles was still to this day the only King to this very day to have a Gaelic Poet Laureate, Iain Lom of Keppoch. The MacGowen's were, I believe, a Sept of the McPhearson Clann in Inverness which had received lands in Strathdearn, but I have been unable to find any trace of land during that time belonging to the MacGowen's. I have read that the promise of land was used by the King as an incentive for loyalty - have you heard this also? Yes, it was and there is still to this day "Crown Land" available in many of the old colonies such as Canada. This practice was also used to populate many areas of the New World. Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, Newfoundland, the American Colonies, etc., many soldiers who served in America were given land grants of "Crown Land," considering all the land was owned by the crown they had a lot to give away. How does this compare with information you have? You are (obviously!) very knowledgeable on this subject, so I would appreciate any corrections to the information I have collected. Thank you for the compliment, but I assure you it is most undeserved I have a minimal knowledge, little more than the average school boy. I am sure Mark and others on the list have a much greater knowledge of the era and the issues. Thank you, again! Joy dave M. ----------------------- Headers ------------- >>

Hi folks, not sue which Sheriff my old friend Dave McLean is referring to as collecting taxes etc, it certainly isn't the Scottish variety. Scotland is divided into Sheriffdoms (at present there are 6) which at the time of the outbreak of WWII was more based on County lines. Each Sheriffdom is divided into Sheriff Court Districts. In the Highlands on the mainland there is Wick, Dornoch, Tain, Dingwall, Inverness, Fort William, Oban and Elgin. There is also Kirkwall and Lerwick in the Northern Isles, Stornoway, Portree and Lochmaddy in the Western Isles and Skye. Prior to 1973 Nairnshire was attached to Morayshire (Elginshire) and after 1973 to Inverness-shire. Nairn itself doesn't have a Sheriff Court, only a District Court. In Scotland, A Sheriff is a senior judge and in 1939 was almost certainly a senior Advocate probably a K.C. (King's Counsel), the equivalent of a Barrister in England or Supreme Court Attorney in the U.S. The Sheriff could hear cases civil or criminal up to a fairly serious or complex level, somewhere between a County Court Judge and a High Court Judge in England. An Irregular marriage was any sort of marriage which was not conducted within the prescribed form laid down by the Marriage(Scotland) Act 1933. As Dave suggested, it may be that the couple didn't wait the prescribed three weeks for the reading of Banns but my reading of your note is that the Sheriff pronounced his Interlocutor a week before WWII started. Remember at that time a couple could be legally married in Scotland's without going through any sort of marriage service. If a couple declared themselves to be married to one another, called themselves Mr and Mrs so and so and ALL their respective families recognised them to be married, then they were married "by habit and repute" under Scots law and any children were legitimate. Of course both had to be legally able to marry at the time they began to consider themselves married and if not, the Law would not recognise the union as valid until both were free to enter a formal marriage, e.g. a pre-existing spouse of one or both were divorced or died. Any children born prior to the marriage were illegitimate but became legitimated on the parents subsequent marriage. The court papers from 1939 may still exist in Edinburgh. Regards, Mark, Genealogist: Clan Sutherland Co-Genealogist: Clan Mackenzie Professional Genealogist specialising in the Highlands and 18th century see my web-site: http://www.highland-family-heritage.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: <ScotHeritage@aol.com> To: <SCT-INVERNESS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2000 7:49 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-INV-L] Irregular Marriage Question > In a message dated 15/05/00 12:49:43 PM Central Daylight Time, > mackenzi@cytanet.com.cy writes: > > << Hello all, > > In paragraph 6 of an extract of marriages, my G Grandfather's certificate is > signed "Warrant of Sheriff Substitute of Inverness Elgin and Nairn dated 6th > Sep 1939" (the date is the same date as the marriage). > > I presume that this was an irregular marriage. Can anyone assist on this at > all ie. what is the definition of an irregular marriage, does the fact that > it has been signed by the Sheriff signify that he has been a "naughty boy "? > > Many thanks for your help > > Alan Mackenzie > >> > Scotland was at war in 1939 perhaps they were military which made the > marriage irregular in as much as times of bands etc., may of been eased. The > Sheriff in Scotland is different from in the US. more involved in the > collection of fees taxes and tariffs. > DaveM. > >

Perhaps I can share my Macisaac story with you.... It has taken five years to get here. I come from the Clan Ranald of Kinlochmoidart, Parish of Moidart in Inverness-shire and when you are in Scotland religion is very important, we were Catholic. It is not so these days in the Colonies, but still in Scotland. We were Macisaac's before we went to Australia in August 1852 (see Below 1841/1851 census). It was common for the Macisaac's of the Clan Ranald, to change names and was considered a benefit to do so. Also the name "Macvarish" changed their names, this is a surname that is rarely seen these days.. The Macisaac's were the traditional Balliff's for Clan Ranald. When the Macisaac's/McDonald's came to Geelong Australia the two eldest sons, John and Roderick Macissac/McDonald called their properties "Glen Moidart". That was the Glen from where they were pushed down to the sea at Caolsmore (Kylesmore). - --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sometime in 1852 before the Macisaac's left Scotland, they changed their name to McDonald and left for Geelong, Victoria on the "Allison" with the Highland and Island Emigration Society (HIES). _____________________________________________________________________________ 1841 Census Ardnamurchan, Acharacle, Inverness (Taken, 7 June 1841) Address, Kylesmore (Acharacle) 1/2 acre Crofter - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Angus MacIsaac age 45, Agricultural labourer, born in the county ..b1795c Mary MacIsaac age 40, born in the county ...................................b1799c, (McDonald) John MacIsaac age 15, born in the county ....................................b1822c Roger (sic) MacIsaac age 15, born in the county ...........................b1824c Mary MacIsaac age 12, born in the county ....................................b1830c Duncan Macisaac (See Below) b1831 Donald MacIsaac age 7, born in the county ....................................b1834c John MacIsaac age 5, born in the county .......................................b1836c Catherine MacIsaac age 2, born in the county ................................b1839c _______________________________________________________________________________ 1851 Census Ardnamurchan, Acharacle, Moidart, Inverness-shire (Taken 30th March 1851) Address, Kylemore (Acharacle) 1/2 acre Crofter - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Angus McIsaac age 63, Agricultural labourer, born in the county ...........b1795c Mary McIsaac age 52, born in the county ............................................b1799c, (McDonald) John McIsaac age 28, born in the county ... .......................................b1822c Rodrick (sic) McIsaac age 26, born in the county .. ...............................b1824c Mary McIsaac age 21, born in the county ............................................b1830c <(Donald McIsaac age 17, born in the county missing from household....b1834c> John McIsaac age 14, born in the county .............................................b1836c Catherine McIsaac age 12, born in the county .......................................b1839c Ronald McIsaac age 9, born in the county .............................................b1842c ___________________________________________________________________________________ The Roman Catholic Baptismal Register of Mingarry in Moidart, first recording, 1829. ___________________________________________________________________________________ 1) "John McIsaac, born 19 March 1836, the lawful child of Angus McIsaac and of Mary McDonald, Kylesmore, was baptised by me 21 March 1836; sponsor was John McDonald, Merchant Kylesmore Alexr. McDonald Priest" 2) "Ranald lawful son of Angus McIsaac and Mary McDonald, Caolas, born 17 Augt 1841 was baptised by me on the 18th, ditto, Sponsor was John McDonald, Dorlin (?) Ranald Rankin (priest)" Portphilip 1852 3) "Catherine lawful daughter of Angus McDonald and Mary McDonald, Caolasmore was born on 11 November and baptised 20th November 1838, Sponsors Archy and Ann McDonald, Glenuig" _____________________________________________________________________________________ 1831 4) "April 10, I have this day baptised Duncan MacIsaac, born same day the son of A----- MacIsaac and Mary McDonald his wife residing at Kylesmore, Allan MacDonald residing at Kylesbeg being Sponsor" _______________________________________________________________________________________ At 03:22 PM 5/9/00 +0000, you wrote: >Hello all > >This is where I am at.... > >Ranald MacIsaac MacDonald, born 1754, died 1859. Married Janet >Cameron who was born 1783, died 1863. Ranald came from ? in Scotland >to ? in Ireland, then came to Canada, specifically, to Glengarry >County, Ontario. When? I don't know. > >Any tips or info. would be greatly appreciated! I am very new at >this and so am a bit overwhelmed. > >Also, please, does anyone know where I can obtain a Clan Donald (or >is there a Clan Ranald?) book in the USA? I can only seem to find >them in Scotland via internet. I haven't a credit card (thru choice) >so ordering online is not an option for me. > >Can anyone recommend a REALLY good book on the history of Scotland? >I am new as I stated before and am finding the history/language >confusing and would like to learn more of the history so I can >understand it. > >Thank you! > >Christine > > > >------------------------------------------------------- > >This message was sent to you by the Scots Origins User Discussion Group, >to reply scots-origins@eGroups.com > >To unsubscribe send a blank email to: scots-origins-unsubscribe@eGroups.com *Angus Macisaac b 1798c Inverness-shire, Scotland *Mary McDonald, b 1805c Married 1823c ________________________________________________________________________________ ----They were one of the 6 Roman Catholic families who worked on the "Estate of W. Robertson of Kinlochmoidart", Glen Moidart, Inverness-shire Scotland, (South West Coast) at a property called Kylesmore, (Caolasmore Gaelic), 1/2 acre as a crofter..... It is thought that the Macisaac's were invited by the McDonald Clan to change their name from Macisaac to closer associate with the McDonald's they were travelling with to Australia. It could have been also popular to change their name to the wives surname, this is unknown. The Macisaac's were the traditional Balliffs for the Clan Ranald. Glen Moidart was the traditional seat for the Macisaac's in Scotland and was of Historical significance to this Sept of the McDonald Clan. The Macisaac's were traditionally Catholic. _________________________________________________________________________________ These are the children: 1. John McDonald (Macisaac) b 1824c Kylesmore, Inverness-shire, 2. Roderick McDonald (Macisaac) b 1826c Kinlochmoidart, Glen Moidart, Inverness-shire (could be 1822), 3. Mary McDonald (Macisaac) b 1830c 4. Duncan Macisaac b April 10, 1831, died before 1841 I have this day baptised Duncan MacIsaac, born same day the son of A----- MacIsaac and Mary McDonald his wife residing at Kylesmore, Allan MacDonald residing at Kylesbeg being Sponsor 5. Donald McDonald (Macisaak) b 1835c Kylesmore, Inverness-shire 6. John McDonald (Macisaak) b 19 March 1836c Kylesmore, Inverness-shire ( a spare called Ewan also?) born 19 March 1836, the lawful child of Angus McIsaac and of Mary McDonald, Kylesmore, was baptised by me 21 March 1836; sponsor was John McDonald, Merchant Kylesmore Alexr. McDonald Priest" 7. Catherine McDonald (Macisaak) b 11 Nov, 1838c Kylesmore, Inverness-shire (Kate) Catherine lawful daughter of Angus McDonald and Mary McDonald, Caolasmore was born on 11 November and baptised 20th November 1838, Sponsors Archy and Ann McDonald, Glenuig 8. Ranald McDonald (Macisaak) b 17 Aug 1841c Kylesmore, Inverness-shire Ranald lawful son of Angus McIsaac and Mary McDonald, Caolas, born 17 Augt 1841 was baptised by me on the 18th, ditto, Sponsor was John McDonald, Dorlin (?) Ranald Rankin (priest)" Portphilip 1852 _______________________________________________________________________________ Note: All of the 6 HIES (Highland Island Emigration Society 1852-1858 "Kinlochmoidart McDonald" families left Scotland in 1852 to leave from Liverpool 13 September 1852 on the "ALLISON" to Geelong VIC Australia arriving on 20 December 1852, quarantined on board till 8 February, 1853. Angus arrived a hale and hearty man. The adults members of the "Angus Macisaak" family had signed a promissory note for 16 pound 4 shillings and 6 pence. The other 5 "Kinlochmoidart McDonald" Families, totalling 40 in all on the ALLISON were: 1. Alexander 34, Flora 33, Mary 8, Catherine 4, Angus 2 2. Mary 50, Allan 28, Donald 24, Mary 26, Mitzi 22, Peggy 20, Kate 18 3. Alexander 44, Mary 43, Alexander 18, John 15, Allan 13, Ann 11, Kate 8, Donald 5 4. Donald 43, Ann 42, Duncan 18, Hugh 16, Margaret 12, John 8, Ann, Flora 3, Mary 14 5. Alexander 48, (Kylesmore), Mary 35, John 13, Margaret 11, Ann 8, Mary 5, Kate 1 4 steamers serviced Raasay; 'Sygnet, "Duntroon', 'Mary Ann McLeod', and 'Islay'. (Cathy McSwain) _______________________________________________________________________________ 2nd generation 10. John McDonald (Macisaac) b1822, Inverness-shire Scotland, Died 31 Jul, 1886 Sutherlands Creek, registration 8202, Farmer, buried Eastern Cemetery, Geelong, 10+. married Margaret McDonald b 1835 in St. Marys Catholic Church, Geelong, VIC 10th January, 1854 Father Michael McDonald, Carpenter Mother, Mary McDonald Witnesses - Eweyn and Sarah McDonald Priest Horatio Geoghegan, Died 14/11/1898, Age 62, buried Eastern Cemetery, Geelong, - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11. Hugh McDonald born 26/02/1855, Geelong, Baptised St. Marys Catholic Church , Died 23 April 1915, age 60 11+. Married Catherine Alisia ??????? Died 26 Feb 1938, aged 74.12. Margaret McDonald, 25/11/1856, Sutherland Creek Baptised St. Marys Catholic Church 12. Margaret McDonald, 25/11/1856, Sutherland Creek Baptised St. Marys Catholic Church 13. Flora Mary McDonald, 15/2/1858, Sutherland Creek Baptised St. Marys Catholic Church 13+. married Eugene Francis O'Connor b 1859 at St Mary's 24th February 1886, reg 805 Parents Daniel O'Connor Grocer and Charlotte McSweeney 130. Flora Kathleen OConnor, b1887 Geelong reg 3454 14. Archibald McDonald, 18/08/1860, Sutherland Creek Baptised St. Marys Catholic Church 14a. Catherine McDonald 15/6/1862, Darriwill, Vic Baptised 20/7/1862 St. Marys Catholic Church Sponsors Sandy & Mary McDonald 15. Mary Ann McDonald, 24/03/1864, Sutherland Creek Baptised St. Marys Catholic Church 16. Duncan McDonald, 12/9/1868, Sutherland Creek Baptised St. Marys Catholic Church 17. Sarah McDonald, 22/06/1870, Sutherland Creek Baptised St. Marys Catholic Church 18. John McDonald, 15/08/1872, Sutherland Creek Baptised St. Marys Catholic Church 19. Michael McDonald 25/10/1874 Darriwill Baptised St. Mary's Catholic Church 1/11/1874 19+. married Maude O'Callaghan b 1872 at St. Mary's Catholic on 28th July 1908, father Bartholomew O'Callaghan, Draper and mother Bolinda (Belinda) Mahoney (Sisters Gertrude Mary b1878 Geelong reg 23169, Laura May b1880 Geelong reg 8992) _______________________________________________________________________________ 20. Roderick McDonald (Macisaac) married Mary Kavanagh in St. Marys Geelong on June 18, 1857, Father Patrick Kavanagh, Wheelwright/Carpenter mother Cathryn Byrne moved to: Sutherland Creek (1861), Lake Bolac (1868) and finally to "Glen Moidart" Berrigan, NSW in 1873 Their children were: 21. Alexander (Angus) b Geelong, VIC 6/4/1858 - m Bridget Ellen Liston in St. Mary's Geelong on 16 May, 1888 - Alexander (Angus) came back from Berrigan (1873) to marry Bridget Liston in 1888) 22. Catherine b NSW 1860 - m William Miller 23. Duncan b Sutherland Creek, VIC 9/6/1861 - m ???? Children Roderick John, Sister Cecilia 24. Julia Ann b Sutherland Creek, VIC12/7/1863 - m John Hetherington St. Mary's Geelong ????? 25. John Patrick b Sutherland Creek, VIC 1/11/1865 d 1897 age 32 - Did he die in Tasmania on 29 Jan 1897? 26. Mary b Lake Bolac, VIC 1868 - m William Miller 5 children D ???? 27. Margaret b Lake Bolac, VIC 1870 happened to Margaret? 28. Flora b ? 1872 d 1893, 21 years 29. Roderick b Berrigan, NSW 1874 d 1891, 17 _______________________________________________________________________________ 30. Mary McDonald (Macisaac) b 1830c Kinlochmoidart, Inverness-shire 40. Duncan Macisaac b April 10, 1831, died before 1841 in Scotland 50. Donald McDonald (Macisaac) b 1835c Kinlochmoidart, Inverness-shire 60. John McDonald (Macisaac) b 19 March 1836c Kylesmore, Inverness-shire Died 1869, reg 6748 70. Catherine McDonald (Macisaac) b 11 Nov, 1838c Kylesmore, Inverness-shire (Kate) 80. Ranald McDonald (Macisaac) b 17 Aug 1841c Kylesmore, Inverness-shire Ronald McDonald, Profession - Farmer, Bachelor, Abode - New South Wales, near Deniliquin Married St Mary's Church Geelong, 8th September, 1881, Susan McDonald, Born - B 1852c Invernessshire, Scotland, Aged - 29, Spinster, Abode - Sutherland's Creek, Parents - James McDonald, Farmer & Margory McDonald Witnesses - Hugh & Annie McDonald. Note: This man, James McDonald, was on the "Araminta" 1852 with his infant daughter and only child Susan, his wife, Annie had died on the Isle of Skye prior to the journey. 911. Mary C McDonald B 1883 NSW reg 24449 912. Jessie McDonald B 1886 NSW reg 27717 913. Julia Marj McDonald b 1888 Geelong, VIC reg 11704 ________________________________________________________________________________ 211. Roderick John McDonald b Little River Geelong b 20 june 1889 212. Patrick McDonald b 1891 213. John Francis McDonald b 14 Jan 1904 214. James McDonald b 1897 215. Augustine McDonald b 1899 d 1974 The above children of Angus/Bridget came back to Geelong Christian Brothers for their schooling. _______________________________________________________________________________

Hello to all, I have an 1855 Birth Cert. (for Arisaig) that gives the mother's place of birth as ' Munize Lochaber ' and place of marriage as at ' Ullin Morven '. I know that Morven is really Arg. but I would appreciate any help in finding out where Munize and Ullin are/were. In my travels I have passed through Ullin, Illinois and Ullin, Montana ( definately 'cattle-country' ) and so that gives you a clue as to where the original settlers came from. Interests: McDONALD (Mull & Morvern), GILLIES (Arisaig), McPHIE (Mull), McMASTER (Lochaber). Best regards, Iain Rogers, (Hong Kong) iainida@hutchcity.com

Wow! THAT post got a lot of response! Here's what Elizabeth sent me on March 29th: Extract from "Scotland Farewell" ..... page 189.......Pictou -------- Apart from weddings and the occasional Ceilidh, there was little enough excitement at the harbour, unless an emigrant ship came in. Then everyone would run to the shore and some people would canoe down the river, for there were usually relatives aboard. There was great anticipation in the summer of 1801 when they learned that their neighbour Hugh Denoon had organized two shiploads to sail from Fort William and Loch Broom with people from Loch Broom parish, Beauly and the eastern Inverness parishes of Kilmorack and Kiltarlity. Early that year Denoon had travelled the Highlands, from his native Beauly Firth to Loch Broom, soliciting emigrants with visions of bountiful farm lands and trees that provided a family with sugar, soap and fuel. He chartered two vessels, the DOVE and the SARAH, at Fort William where customs records indicate he had signed up a total of 625 passengers. There was some dispute about Denoon's own figures, which showed too few passengers on one ship and too many on the other. There is, to this day, considerable confusion over how many people Denoon managed to cram on those two ships. The DOVE, the smaller of the two at 186 tons - not quite as big as the HECTOR - carried 275 people; her passage, althoughhh squalid and uncomfortable enough, must have been uneventful since it failed to attract much notice from the chroniclers of the time. But the SARAH'S crossing was a nightmare, even in an era of terrible emigrant crossings. At 350 tons the SARAH was considerably bigger than the DOVE and although, according to Fort William Customs, she carried 350 people, of whom 144 were children, Dr. Patterson maintains in his history that she actually carried "700 souls, though two children being counted as one, and infants in arms going free, they were reckoned as 500 passengers". She was but halfway to Nova Scotia when she was stopped and boarded by sailors from a British man-of-war. It was wartime and the navy was kidnapping able- bodied landlubbers and turning them into sailors. The navy men had seized 25 of SARAH'S young male passengers and were about to sail away with them when Denoon, who had a persuasive tongue, managed to bluff the commander into believing that he was a government agent and that the men were needed in Nova Scotia; thus he won their freedom. But no sooner had they escaped the press gang when an epidemic, both smallpox and whooping cough, broke out aboard the SARAH. By the time she reached Pictou Harbour 47 passengers had died. The survivors had been at sea for 13 weeks, two weeks longs than the voyage endured by their kinfolk on the HECTOR, and it was to be longer still before they could join their friends and relatives. At the harbour they were quarantined for weeks on a narrow spit of land and no one was allowed to approach them. Listed on the passenger manifests as farmers, tenants, labourers, these newcomers from Beauly and its neighbouring south, moved up the rivers to settled or back into the bush, enlarging older settlements or carving new ones. One of them, said Dr. Patterson, was to kindle the first fire on Mount Thom (where the HECTOR people had refused to settle because of the tick forest) on New Year's Eve, December 13, 1801, His wife as she gazed through the partially open roof at the waving tree tops overshadowing them, and within, at her shivering little ones clinging around her, thought of the comforts she had left behind in the old land, and declared her wish to be back in Scotland, if it were even to be in a jail". Happy Reading All! Rob McLean

In a message dated 17/05/00 10:11:43 PM Central Daylight Time, mclean@ctaz.com writes: << Wow! THAT post got a lot of response! Here's what Elizabeth sent me on March 29th: Extract from "Scotland Farewell" ..... page 189.......Pictou -------- Apart from weddings and the occasional Ceilidh, there was little enough excitement at the harbour, unless an emigrant ship came in. Then everyone would run to the shore and some people would canoe down the river, for there were usually relatives aboard. There was great anticipation in the summer >> You know this reminded me of going to the Cunard Pier in Montreal when the Corinthia or her sister ship, Carmania came into port in the spring. There would be hundreds of Scots all over the pier waiting for someone to get off the ships. It was not uncommon to spot an old school chum or the son or daughter of a friend. Most of the Scots were going to the Mines in Northern Ontario, the steel plants of Dominion Bridge or Dosco out in Hamilton. It was a rather festive event and people arrived early and there were always a couple of pipers, someone meeting a mother or father over on holiday, a brother, sister, or cousin migrating, News was exchanged and you could even hear the odd Gaelic when we teuchters arrived. Those ships sailed from Liverpool and also carried Irish, Welsh and English people to Canada as well. In the winters there was always the boat train from Halifax and if you happened to be in the city you could nip over to the station and see if you knew anyone. That all ended in the 60ties I think it was when air travel took over and the great liners went to the Caribbean to sail pointlessly around the islands. The process was reversed when the airliners would arrive in Prestwick, (Glasgow) later on when we came home to visit. Parents and family with teary eyes to welcome you home, and teary eyes to say good by when you returned to points all over the world. It seems we have been saying good bye to often, to too many for too long. dave M.

Apologies if this has been mentioned before (whilst I was off-list), but listers may be interested in the relatively recent publication of: Patrick Sellar and the Highland Clearances: Homicide, Eviction and the Price of Progress by Eric Richards (author of the 1980s 2 volume "Highland Clearances...") ISBN 1 902930 13 4 RRP: £16.99 Published by: Polygon at Edinburgh, 2 George Square, Edinburgh EH8 9LF I have only recently ordered my copy, but it sounds like a very good read for those interested in the Clearances - I believe Eric Richards' talk to the Gaelic Society of Inverness was reasonably contentious. Peter Grant (London, late Christchurch NZ)

In a message dated 17/05/00 10:59:42 AM Central Daylight Time, vanderven@stsi.net writes: << I am looking for any information on Henry Magoon / MacGowen, who was sent over aboard the "John & Sarah" on November 11, 1651 with his two brothers, John and Jonathan (or Alexander), and their good friend John Bean, all as indentured servants. I'm told Henry and his brothers were born in Strathdearn, Inverness-Shire, although I haven't been able to locate Strathdearn. They served during the Worchester Battle and were taken POW by Col. Cromwell. They were in the Scots Guards (the Foote Regiment) from InvernessShire. Henry's brother Jonathan/Alexander first settled in Hingham, MA but returned to Scotland after serving his time. Henry stayed in New Hampshire. I am looking for any information prior to their capture, as well as any information about the brother who returned to Scotland. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Joy I do not believe The Scots Guards existed at this point in time. Also the Scots Guards is not an Inverness nor a Highland regiment they are a Scottish Regiment. My uncle Ritchie served with them in WW II as a tanker. The home regiment of Inverness was the Queen's Own Cameron Highlanders, raised by Alan Cameron of Erracht in 1793. In 1873 made Queen's Own and in 1881 they were the only regiment not affected by the Cardwell Reforms and they retained their own tartan. Now there was a contingent of Highlanders who served as the body guards for the King of France at this time, could that be what you mean? Les Ecosse, French for The Scots. The Guard was made up of Highlanders only and the language of orders was the Gaelic. There was also a regiment called the Royal Scots, again a lowland regiment who had the designation of the 1st regiment of Foot. (Infantry). With the exception of the Black Watch the 42nd Royal Highland Regiment established 1740 to present, and Loudon's Highlanders (1745 to 1747) Raised to fight on the Continent, (Flanders Bergen-op-Zoom), fought on the governments side at Culloden all other Highland Regiments were formed after the repeal of the Disarming Act starting about 1757 with the Frasers (1757, reduced in 1763 with most joining the Royal Highland Emigrants during the American Rebellion) and Montgomerie's Highlanders (1757 - 1763) Up until then most Highlanders either fought on orders of their clan chiefs, or as mercenaries for foreign kings. Many a well bred Highlander held a commission with the King of France, Sweden, Denmark or even Russia. You had said Worcester which was in 1650 so they would of been in the Army let by Montrose, who is from the area of Inverness, fighting to put the young King Charles II back on the throne. Worcester was a crushing defeat for the Scots. Cromwell, Lord Protector, died in 1658, his son Richard was not as talented as his father and so in 1660 Charles II was invited to take his family and return to the throne of Scotland. Hope this helps in your search. I am sorry I can not be more exact as to the times etc., but I am not near my referance material at the moment. Dave M. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: <SCT-INVERNESS-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from rly-yd03.mx.aol.com (rly-yd03.mail.aol.c >>

Someone named Elizabeth (presumably in Scotland) sent me an excerpt from the ship's log or journal regarding the voyage of the Sarah. It starts off mentioning something like"...it was an exciting day for Fort William...." and then goes into the details of the voyage. Anyways, that is where we got that the ship departed from Fort William. I am at work right now and the email is stored on my computer at home, plus I had printed it out so that is in my McLean binder at home as well. Elizabeth is one of the first posters who had responded to me when I subscribed to this list, had said she was going to look up some info for us, but we have not heard back. A lot of us get off track every once in a while. I'm sure we'll hear from her soon. She told us what book that information came out of, and we went to our local library to try and order it but they can't get it. So my wife is going to try the book store. Thanks, Rob McLean

In a message dated 17/05/00 6:41:44 PM Central Daylight Time, mclean@ctaz.com writes: << Elizabeth is one of the first posters who had responded to me when I subscribed to this list, had said she was going to look up some info for us, but we have not heard back. A lot of us get off track every once in a while. I'm sure we'll hear from her soon. She told us what book that information came out of, and we went to our local library to try and order it but they can't get it. So my wife is going to try the book store. Thanks, Rob McLean >> This information is available via the MacLean Home page as well as other ships which transported MacLeans. Dave M.

Dave, please read below about my Macisaac's........ Peter Macisaac........... At 06:04 AM 5/10/00 -0400, Skyedam@aol.com wrote: >Subj: [SCT-INV-L] Isle of Eigg/ McIsaac surname >Date: 5/10/00 12:02:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time >From: Skyedam >To: MaryEllenZ >CC: Shamoidart, HilandeRPM, JayofEigg >CC: eric.salmonson@ns.sympatico.ca > > >Subj: [SCT-INV-L] Isle of Eigg/ McIsaac surname > >Date: 5/9/00 8:01:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time > >From: MaryEllenZ@aol.com > >To: SCT-INVERNESS-L@rootsweb.com > > >Hi, > > Could someone please confirm that the Isle of Eigg is in Inverness >county? > > I am researching McIsaacs from the Isle of Eigg. Please contact me if > > you share the same interest. > > > -Mary Ellen Moulton, Plaistow, New Hampshire, USA > > >Hi Mary Ellen, > >I'm not researching McIsaacs from the Isle of Eigg but we are researching >McLeods there. Yes, the Isle of Eigg is in Inverness - usually referred to >as Inverness-shire. I do have MacIsaacs in my line - they were from Moidart >on the mainland (about 10 miles east of Eigg) and came out in 1801 on the >Nora to Antigonish, Nova Scotia. They then went onto Cape Breton and then to >the western shores of Newfoundland - Bay St. George, Sandy Point Island and >Port au Port / Berry Head. If yours came to Canada, if you don't have it, >you should get the book, Drummer on Foot. I can give you the info on how to >obtain the book. Your people must be Catholic, they almost have to be coming >off of Eigg. Our Mc/MacIsaacs are undoubtedly related - both coming from >Clanranald territory and in close proximity to one another. > >Although I have a lot of reference material here, actual genealogies of Eigg >have been very difficult to come by. I don't think any have been formerly >published although there could be some in private hands. There is a book >named: The Isle of Eigg, by Camille Dressler, which is a good read. > >Fill me in on your research. How did you trace you McIsaac's to Eigg? Where >did they go from there? > >Look forward to hearing from you. I'm next door in Scarborough, Maine. > >Dave MacLeod >Skyedam@aol.com

Mary, There are Macisaac's from Eigg who now live in Fort William........ By the way spelling does NOT matter, my Macisaacs are from Kinlochmoidart/Glen Uig/Smirsary and around there.. I will get you the address's and telephone numbers... When did your Macisaac's come to the USA? By the way many changed their name from Mac/McIsaac to Macdonald/Mcdonald. It was common to do that back then, as mine did in 1852.... ..........Peter At 07:59 AM 5/9/00 -0400, you wrote: >Hi, > Could someone please confirm that the Isle of Eigg is in Inverness > county? > > I am researching McIsaacs from the Isle of Eigg. Please contact me if >you share the same interest. > >-Mary Ellen Moulton, Plaistow, New Hampshire, USA +Sometime in 1852 before the Macisaac's left Scotland, they changed their name to McDonald and left for Geelong, Victoria on the "Allison" with the Highland and Island Emigration Society. _____________________________________________________________________________ 1841 Census Ardnamurchan, Acharacle, Inverness (Taken, 7 June 1841) Address, Kylesmore (Acharacle) 1/2 acre Crofter - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Angus MacIsaac age 45, Agricultural labourer, born in the county ..b1795c Mary MacIsaac age 40, born in the county ...................................b1799c, (McDonald) John MacIsaac age 15, born in the county ....................................b1822c Roger (sic) MacIsaac age 15, born in the county ...........................b1824c Mary MacIsaac age 12, born in the county ....................................b1830c Duncan Macisaac (See Below) b1831 Donald MacIsaac age 7, born in the county ....................................b1834c John MacIsaac age 5, born in the county .......................................b1836c Catherine MacIsaac age 2, born in the county ................................b1839c _______________________________________________________________________________ 1851 Census Ardnamurchan, Acharacle, Moidart, Inverness-shire (Taken 30th March 1851) Address, Kylemore (Acharacle) 1/2 acre Crofter - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Angus McIsaac age 63, Agricultural labourer, born in the county ...........b1795c Mary McIsaac age 52, born in the county ............................................b1799c, (McDonald) John McIsaac age 28, born in the county ... .......................................b1822c Rodrick (sic) McIsaac age 26, born in the county .. ...............................b1824c Mary McIsaac age 21, born in the county ............................................b1830c <(Donald McIsaac age 17, born in the county missing from household....b1834c> John McIsaac age 14, born in the county .............................................b1836c Catherine McIsaac age 12, born in the county .......................................b1839c Ronald McIsaac age 9, born in the county .............................................b1842c ___________________________________________________________________________________ The Roman Catholic Baptismal Register of Mingarry in Moidart, first recording, 1829. ___________________________________________________________________________________ 1) "John McIsaac, born 19 March 1836, the lawful child of Angus McIsaac and of Mary McDonald, Kylesmore, was baptised by me 21 March 1836; sponsor was John McDonald, Merchant Kylesmore Alexr. McDonald Priest" 2) "Ranald lawful son of Angus McIsaac and Mary McDonald, Caolas, born 17 Augt 1841 was baptised by me on the 18th, ditto, Sponsor was John McDonald, Dorlin (?) Ranald Rankin (priest)" Portphilip 1852 3) "Catherine lawful daughter of Angus McDonald and Mary McDonald, Caolasmore was born on 11 November and baptised 20th November 1838, Sponsors Archy and Ann McDonald, Glenuig" _____________________________________________________________________________________ 1831 4) "April 10, I have this day baptised Duncan MacIsaac, born same day the son of A----- MacIsaac and Mary McDonald his wife residing at Kylesmore, Allan MacDonald residing at Kylesbeg being Sponsor" _______________________________________________________________________________________

Dear Friend, I have posted more pictures from my trip to Scotland last month. Putting on labels has been a bit of a chore, but I finally got it accomplished. Some of the pictures are linked to sites already existing on the subject. I'll spend some more time looking around for more sites which represent the pictures. The weather was pretty bad for taking pictures when I was there. With the falling pound, there could not be a better time for traveling to Scotland as now. I understand the weather has been outstanding. Some advice I would pass on to prospective travelers to Scotland: Do not rent a car unless you wish to pay $5.00 per gallon for petrol, and are fully comfortable driving on the left hand side of the road. Public transportation is very good. If I should ever return I will buy a bus pass in advance for the full time. For those who have never used them, Bed and Breakfasts are great, and very good value for the money. The people who operate the B&B's are good sources of information about the area. I would also suggest taking along an extra bag. Most airlines allow two bags plus a carry on that will fit under the seat. This is a very inexpensive way to bring things back. The checked bag allowance is usually 70 pounds per bag. I brought a saw weighing ten pounds for a friend. The price UPS would have been $108.00. The VAT tax is also refundable on items purchased. My advice, go to Scotland now if you can while the Pound is down. For airfares priceline.com is about the best one can do. My very best to you and yours, Bob http://www.thefrasers.com This site is dedicated to all people of the name Fraser!! Please join in The Fraser Discussion Forum

Rob MacLean's posting about ancestors who departed by ship from Ft. William made me wonder about the names of ships leaving Scotland. I never realized that any emigrant ships sailed from Ft. William, a logical port from someone from Skye. Is there a list anywhere of the names of ships that went from Scotland to the United States in the 1850s? What ports other than Ft. William might they have used? Unfortunately, the volume of immigrant ships landing in NY and Philadelphia is long and most of the passenger lists have not been transcribed, particularly list of passengers sailing from Scotland. Marion Markham

In a message dated 17/05/00 7:17:14 AM Central Daylight Time, mmrbm@ameritech.net writes: << Rob MacLean's posting about ancestors who departed by ship from Ft. William made me wonder about the names of ships leaving Scotland. I never realized that any emigrant ships sailed from Ft. William, a logical port from someone from Skye. Is there a list anywhere of the names of ships that went from Scotland to the United States in the 1850s? What ports other than Ft. William might they have used? Unfortunately, the volume of immigrant ships landing in NY and Philadelphia is long and most of the passenger lists have not been transcribed, particularly list of passengers sailing from Scotland. Marion Markham >> There were sailings from Glasgow, Inverness, Ft.William, Skye, Lewis, Harris, and many other areas when ships were under sail, later the big liners needed deep ports like Glasgow, Liverpool, SouthHampton etc. I don't know what ship records you have been into but here is what I have. DaveM. <A HREF="http://search.aol.com/redirect.adp?appname=QBP&query=%83%c1%0a%d7%7d%26% a3%95%13%1a%83%e1%65%6b%de%3d%8b%23%64%a5%80%0f%da%a3%f8%c1%2c%86%f8%ba%82%2e% f3%44%fe%45%11%80%ca%7b%9c%6e%82%5d%33%9c%70%e3%2b%da%4b%2b%62%f2%13%a0%2d%aa% 45%56%f5%8c%1c%9e%b1%c2%40%5d%7a%17%8d%2b%2c%5d%f7%56%8d%86%67%8d%98%78%86%c8% b0%fe%44%d3%4d%7b%1e%aa%bb%e9%a5%c1%1e%94%e3%fb%a7%2c%27%5c%70%24%aa%24%d6%d5% eb%39%50%eb%4d%74%aa%4d%c3%e2%fe%c2%1d%f6%05%d5%cd%93%df%0a%69%1f%33%0c%0f%5d" >Ship Manifests and Passenger Lists</A> <A HREF="http://www.nara.gov/publications/microfilm/immigrant/immpass.html">Immig rant and Passenger Arrivals on Microfilm</A> <A HREF="http://www.nara.gov/publications/microfilm/immigrant/rg85.html#nyk">Immi grant and Passenger Arrivals--INS</A> <A HREF="http://aolsearch.aol.com/dirsearch.adp?query=Ship%20Passenger%20lists">A OL Search: Search Results for "Ship Passenger lists"</A> <A HREF="http://aolsearch.aol.com/dirsearch.adp?query=Ship%20Passenger%20lists">A OL Search: Search Results for "Ship Passenger lists"</A> <A HREF="http://search.aol.com/redirect.adp?appname=QBP&query=%83%c1%0a%d7%7d%26% a3%95%13%1a%83%e1%65%6b%de%3d%8b%23%64%a5%80%0f%da%a3%f8%c1%2c%86%f8%ba%82%2e% 16%a7%0f%70%38%8f%1a%0a%7a%72%ca%30%dd%bd%bf%e6%a9%55%48%87%c3%db%1a%d1%b1%a6% 54%f3%42%67%36%4f%fe%53%da%33%bf%9b%64%01%db%b9%52%61%1e%99%4e%2a%4c%50%bd%db% ec%99%ee%9c%0e%bb%6f%ad%93%be%82%f1%8a%a0%e8%d0%59%53%08%ee%c9%14%74%4c%29%06% 05%ff%ac%21%d5%82%a0%4e%6b%99%32%37%5b%b2%f7%6a%0e%03">Start Here! Directory of Passenger Ship Arrivals</A> <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/Gaghjayan/passmain.htm">Passenger List Main Page< /A> <A HREF="http://scroots.org/ships.html">SCRoots, Ships and Passengers</A > <A HREF="http://search.aol.com/redirect.adp?appname=QBP&query=%83%c1%0a%d7%7d%26% a3%95%13%1a%83%e1%65%6b%de%3d%8b%23%64%a5%80%0f%da%a3%f8%c1%2c%86%f8%ba%82%2e% 89%f7%62%c8%06%89%38%1e%a2%d7%47%b7%f7%ef%75%b4%a9%9a%b0%3b%da%21%4c%8a%03%3f% 9a%01%ef%8f%44%f7%3b%b4%14%15%63%17%57%b1%88%a4%74%4e%ab%ea%e6%99%3e%2c%b4%d5% a6%fc%bf%61%f8%bb%8e%dd%7c%2e%88%14%c0%c5%5a%eb%9e%85%9d%ab">Cyndi's List - Ships & Passenger Lists</A> <A HREF="http://freespace.virgin.net/alan.tupman/sites/ships.htm">Passenger Lists </A> <A HREF="http://freespace.virgin.net/alan.tupman/sites/us.htm">US Sites </A> <A HREF="http://www.netmender.net/genelogy/passlist.html">Passenger & Ships Lists</A> <A HREF="http://www.pgsa.org/primer.htm">Primer of Emigration, Immigration, etc.</A> <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/rprost/passenger.html">PASSENGER LISTS ON THE INTERNET</A> <A HREF="http://listserv.northwest.com/~haight/Ships.htm">Ships< /A> <A HREF="http://www.theshipslist.com/">TheShipsList Home Page</A> <A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/5978/Emigration.html">http://www.geoc ities.com/Heartland/5978/Emigration.html</A> <A HREF="http://genealogy.org/%7Epalam/ia_index.htm">On-line Immigrant Ancestor Register Index</A> <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ship_1900.htm">THE OLIVE TREE GENEALOGY:Index to Passenger Lists</A> <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/tousa1650_1700.htm">THE OLIVE TREE GENEALOGY:Ships' Passenger Lists to United States of America</A> <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/shipindx.htm">THE OLIVE TREE GENEALOGY:Ships' Passenger Lists Index by Year</A> <A HREF="http://www.nara.gov/nara/regional/02nsgil.html">General Information about the National Archives-Northeast Region</A> <A HREF="http://unix6.nysed.gov/holding/fact/natur-fa.htm">New York State Archives Naturalization & Related Records</A> <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/caroship.htm">The OLIVE TREE Genealogy Homepage</A> <A HREF="http://www.cimorelli.com/safescripts/unique_steamer_c.asp">Select a Ship for Detail Records</A> <A HREF="http://www.cimorelli.com/safescripts/ship_date.asp?Beginwith=Cameronia"> SAFE - Ships Arriving From Europe 1890 - 1930</A> Hope this helps Dave M.

Hello All Here is a URL which lists present day ministers and contact numbers for many of the churches in these areas Hope they can be of help to some of you http://www.fort-william.net/churches/chos.htm Marilyn

Further notes to my earlier post: Still searching McLean (aka MacLean) from Invernesshire.... William McLean came to Nova Scotia in 1801 from Scotland as a boy. Searching on the Dove, no boy named William. Another ship that left Fort William at the same time, The Sarah, lists a group of McLeans on their ship as follows: Wm. McLean, Farmer; with Margaret McLean Don McLean, Laborer; with Mary McLean; Kath. McLean John McLean (10), William McLean (8) - this boy being my great great great grandfather. Our previous assumptions have been that, given the traditional Scottish naming patterns and the way in which William (aka the boy) later named HIS children, Don McLean would be the father of our William, with the other gentleman William McLean being the grandfather. However, further research unveils that the age given for the boys might have been written down incorrectly. When William (aka the boy) died in 1865, there were three different accounts written of the age of William when he died. The first, being recorded by what has appeared to be the favored son James was registered in the Death record as 75 years old (making him 11 years old in 1801, being born in 1790); the second was 74 years old recorded 9 months after James' record by the eldest son Donald (making him 10 years old when on the Sarah); and the third being the inscription on the tombstone in the cemetery where William was born, erected by his youngest son - of 9 children - Alpine McLean who stated he was 73 years old when he died (making him 8 years old in 1801). All records state him being from Invernesshire, Scotland. Something peculiar - there were many accounts of William and his life in New Glasgow. He was a much respected man, with a great many properties when he died, so he invested well in his years. He seemed generous to the sons and daughters who worked and earned their keep. The first story tells of how he worked for the ship merchant for a few years prior to purchasing his first piece of property. Nowhere in the historical records of New Glasgow does it even mention his parents or who they were. So William appears to have been on his own. So if either of the couples depicted on the Sarah happened to be his parents, what could have happened to them? One would think that a parent might have showed up in a census record or at the cemetery where William's decendants were buried. So we're not really sure that either of the couples were William's parents at all - could be uncles or not even related. So in searching for the roots of William McLean, I'm wondering if anyone has any connections to this family and/or any ideas as to how to figure out this puzzle. Any help is much appreciated, Rob McLean

I am looking for any information on Henry Magoon / MacGowen, who was sent over aboard the "John & Sarah" on November 11, 1651 with his two brothers, John and Jonathan (or Alexander), and their good friend John Bean, all as indentured servants. I'm told Henry and his brothers were born in Strathdearn, Inverness-Shire, although I haven't been able to locate Strathdearn. They served during the Worchester Battle and were taken POW by Col. Cromwell. They were in the Scots Guards (the Foote Regiment) from InvernessShire. Henry's brother Jonathan/Alexander first settled in Hingham, MA but returned to Scotland after serving his time. Henry stayed in New Hampshire. I am looking for any information prior to their capture, as well as any information about the brother who returned to Scotland. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Joy