As far as John, all we know is that a John McLean arrived on the ship The Sarah in 1801 at the same time as our William. He was approximately 8 years old. A John McLean also appeared years later in William's last will and testament. William appoints "William, John McLean's son, as executor....." Later, in a probate record John McLean is mentioned again "William McLean of McLellan's Brook, John McLean's son, as executor....." We know that McLellan's Brook is also referred to as Marshy Hope and it is located on the bottom of the east side of Fraser's Mountain. Our William settled on that mountain primarily on the west side of it and into New Glasgow. We think that the John mentioned in the will might be the same John who came on the Sarah, and that it might be William's brother. But we can't find record of it in New Glasgow. Our William did not get his land from family, he got it from his employer - 100 acres to be exact. So there is no paperwork that we have found to state who his parents were. Our William married Margaret Chisholm of West Branch, East River. Although there were many Chisholms who arrived on that ship, Margaret was not one of them. She was definitely born in Nova Scotia, we have records of her Chisholms. Also, there are many Williams and Johns in the family so sometimes it can be difficult to follow. At one time, someone had thought that the "William McLean, John's son" was referring to the writer's grandson. But at the time the will was written, his grandson William was only a year old, not likely to be appointed an executor. Of course, any help on this is appreciated. We were thinking that perhaps there was a record in Scotland on this family. Sometimes when you get to the point of when they actually arrived in their new land, half of the information is found back where they are from. Hope this makes sense. Thank you, Rob McLean On 25 May 00, at 11:27, Mindy Walker wrote: Rob: If you could post his wife's name, children's names and where they lived, or name of the ship or date of immigration, we may be able to narrow in on John. >From: "McLean" <mclean@ctaz.com> >To: <mindy_walker@hotmail.com> >Subject: McLeans >Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 17:21:14 -0700 > >Our McLeans start with William born about 1790, the one who arrived on the >ship. We have info on all of his children, his wife, wife's parents, etc. >One of his children (of course) John, is my great great grandfather. >Naturally, we have info on John's children. Also most of William's >grandchildren. Have wills, deeds, cemetery records, census records, etc. > >Rob McLean ________________________________________________________ ________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

Haven't posted for quite awhile but with so many new people on list thought I would try again. Searching for siblings of James Stephen born 1839 Orissa India. Family later returned to Inverness and James worked on farm at Ardersier. Have no record of his parents except that his marriage certificate to Catherine Monro list father James Stephen deceased and mother Emily Watts( Ivetts) deceased. This was is 1864. James and Catherine emigrated to Canada in 1869-70 and died in the Muskoka area in the mid 1920s. Looking for siblings of James Stephen b 1839. Joan, BC, Canada

Two notes, Queens own Inverness and MacKenzie tartan. Because of all the questions about Inverness and Highland regiments I thought you may find this interesting. It is from the book: Soldiers Of Scotland, Page 168, By John Baynes with John Laffin, Published by Barnes and Nobel, ISBN 0-7607-0490-2 QUEEN'S OWN HIGHLANDERS (SEAFORTH AND CAMERONS) "On 7 february 1961 the Seaforth Highlanders, (Ross-shire Buffs, The Duke of Albany's) were amalgamated with The Queen's Own Cameron Highlanders to form the new regiment named above. In a simple ceremony the officers and sergeants assembled in the Officers Mess, where the two stands of Colours were set side by side and a toast was drunk to the new regiment. That same morning the last guard mounted by the Camerons on Edinburgh Castle was relieved by the first one to be mounted by the Queen's Own Highlanders. During March 1961, the first Battalion of the regiment visited the regimental area to receive the Freedom of Inverness and Dingwall, and to march through Kingussie, Fort William, Nairn, Granton -on-Spey, Forres, Elgin, Dornoch, Wick and Thurso. HRH Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, who had been the Colonel-in-chief of the Camerons, became Colonel-in-chief of the new regiment, and visited it in Edinburgh on 24 March 1961. Before returning to the activities of the Queen's Own Highlanders since 1961 the stories of the two original regiments must be told; all too briefly due to space." He then goes on to talk of the regiment. While glancing at the next page I found a grand bit of trivia for the MacKenzies: The 78th Highlanders were raised by Colonel Francis Humbertson MacKenzie in 1793, ::::::: The usual uniform of the Highland regiments at that time was worn, with red jacket, kilt and belted plaid, and feather bonnet. The tartan was the government tartan, (or Black Watch), but it was overlaid with red and white stripes and this later became known as the MacKenzie tartan, and is still worn by the Queens Own Highlanders today. Hope you enjoyed: Dave

Hi all! Still searching for McLeans who left Ft. William in 1801 on the Sarah. Info I already have: The ship's passenger list & journal entry for the voyage. Descendant info on William McLean after he arrived in New Glasgow, to date. There were 7 McLeans on that ship - at least there were 7 recorded in the passenger list: Wm. McLean, farmer grouped with Margaret McLean, spinster; Don McLean, laborer grouped with Mary McLean, spinster and Kath. McLean; John McLean (10) grouped with Wm. McLean (8) all listed as being from Kilmorack. We believe that they had the ages switched for the two boys as the boy William is my great great great grandfather who was actually 10 years old when that ship sailed from Ft. William. By the time they reached Nova Scotia, he was 11 years old. Is there anyone who knows how to find out who belongs to who of these 7 McLeans, where they came from, who they might have left behind in Scotland (if anyone), and where the rest of the McLeans went once they arrived in the new land. We only know of William, he settled on Fraser's Mountain; we have a lead on John - possibly settled in Marshy Hope (also known as McLellan's Brook). According to the naming patterns, William and Margaret would have been William's parents. But we would like to find out for sure. Any help is much appreciated. Also, have been working online in Nova Scotia for over 3 years and can point you in the right direction for great genealogy research - or at least let you know where we've had success. Rob McLean

In a message dated 24/05/00 3:53:28 AM Central Daylight Time, jgraham@paradise.net.nz writes: << Hello Listers, I'm new to the list & would like to list the family names I'm researching. They are my G Grandfather Alexander Graham born abt 1851 at Loch Nevis, Inverness. His father was Dugald Graham mother unknown. He was a mariner & arrived in NZ abt 1875. I would also like to know where Loch Nevis is. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks Jocelyn >> Are you sure you don't mean Ben Nevis? I do not know of a Loch Nevis. DaveM.

I'm seeking connections with a line of MacQueens I've traced to Braes in Skye. The information I've gleaned is as follows :- DONALD MacQUEEN His son - MURDO MacQUEEN (Crofter) b.1781, m.Achnahanaid 1801 Margaret Buchanan (b.1781) Their daughter - FLORA MacQUEEN b.Portree par. 1809, d.Portree 1866, m.1st. John MacDonald (1806-c.1847), m.2nd. Portree par. 1854 John Campbell (d.Portree 1866). Looking forward to hearing from you, Donald A. Robertson, Kyleakin, Isle of Skye

Jocelyn, Loch Nevis is in Knoydart. It runs east from Mallaig Mary H in NZ

Hello Listers, I'm new to the list & would like to list the family names I'm researching. They are my G Grandfather Alexander Graham born abt 1851 at Loch Nevis, Inverness. His father was Dugald Graham mother unknown. He was a mariner & arrived in NZ abt 1875. I would also like to know where Loch Nevis is. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks Jocelyn

Hello All from South Australia. I have just started researching my family tree on my Mother's side. Mother passes away in 94 so the information has just been taken from some papers found with her photos. I am just hoping that someone might have some information to help me. The information on Mum's paper is as follows. Jessica GRANT was born in Inveroy, (I think that should have been Inverroy) Inverness 1857, married James FERGUSON at Fort William in 1881. They came out to Queensland, Australia by sailing ship in 1892. I have more information on this couple since arriving in Australia, but I would like to know more of them and their families before coming to Aust. Where would I have to send if I wish to obtain a Marriage Cert?. Which port would they have left from in Scotland? Any more on James FERGUSON and Jessica GRANT. My Husband and I will be visiting Scotland in August, this year. We really had no intention of visiting Inverness, Fort William or even Inverroy, but now we have to rewrite our Itinerary. Any suggestions of where to visit while in this area. TIA Lyn.

Hello Everyone: I have here a death cert that states that the Father was Superintendent of Schools. The Father, John Arbuckle was born in 1798 and the son was born about 1825 in Strath. Would anyone know if the family would have had to move to Edinburgh or maybe Glasgow when John was appointed Superintendent. What the school system might have been back then. Any info appreciated. Thank You Lorraine Ottawa, Canada

Hello, I am Shanna Jones, an LDS Family History Consultant from Utah. I have placed many ancestors on my web site that have ties to the Inverness area of Scotland, plus many other Scottish lines. Some of the names mentioned are: GRANT FRASER MCDONALD MCDONELL CAMPBELL OGILVIE MCPHEE MCDOUGALD MCDOUGALL MCARTHUR AIKEN CAMERON and many others. I just thought I would let you know, so you could choose to take a look at it, [click on surnames for a list] and see if you can find a connection. Please let me know if you do. Thank you and best wishes on your ancestral search! Shanna http://www.burgoyne.com/pages/sjones

Greetings from Nova Scotia. We have discovered that one of my wife's ancestors was confined to Reformatory school prior to joining the Seaforth Highlanders. 1881 Census: The Reformatory School, 46 Rose Street, Inverness,Inverness, Scotland. Film 0203420, GRO ref Vol 098, En Dis 6, Page 15. Robt Tait - unmarried - inmate -19 - born Cupar, Fife, Scotland Can anybody tell us whether it is possible to find out what crime had taken Robert Tait to the school? Thank you Bryan bmaycock@primus.ca

In a message dated 22/05/00 11:06:34 AM Central Daylight Time, bmaycock@primus.ca writes: << Greetings from Nova Scotia. We have discovered that one of my wife's ancestors was confined to Reformatory school prior to joining the Seaforth Highlanders. 1881 Census: The Reformatory School, 46 Rose Street, Inverness,Inverness, Scotland. Film 0203420, GRO ref Vol 098, En Dis 6, Page 15. Robt Tait - unmarried - inmate -19 - born Cupar, Fife, Scotland Can anybody tell us whether it is possible to find out what crime had taken Robert Tait to the school? Thank you Bryan >> Probably the train took him there. OK sorry. He either committed a crime, or was not attending school or his family was disrupted. There will be some paper work somewhere. I don't know back then if they had to go through a family or criminal court, but there will be police records, in take and release forms etc. Hope this helps; DaveM

Pretty sure now that William and Margaret are William's parents. Need to verify the info. None of this family are showing up on the LDS online records. For reference: Ship passenger list of the Sarah - left Ft. William in 1801 arrived in Pictou. McLeans on board were: Wm. McLean, farmer; Margaret McLean, spinster Don McLean, laborer; Mary McLean, spinster; Kath McLean John McLean (boy of approx 8 yrs); Wm. McLean (10 yrs). All listed as being from Kilmorack - could be anywhere. The 10 year old boy is my great great great grandfather who settled in New Glasgow - Fraser's Mountain. Have lots of documents on his descendants from about 1810 to present day. Looking for possibly the birth record of William (1790); the marriage record of William and Margaret (possibly 1770-1790); other children of William and Margaret; or anything that might help track down where our William was from and who his family was prior to his voyage. Any help is appreciated, Rob McLean

Hi: Richard I notice your family was on the 'SARAH" My Finlay McDonald from Glen Urquhart was also on it and they settled in McLellan's Mountain, N.S. Finlay's son, Donald, m. Barabara Fraser b. 1797and I don't know anything more about her parents. Finlay's oldest son John, m. Elizabeth Fraser b. 1794 and I have her father as Alexander. I know nothing else. Just thought I'de let you know. Barnie on wet,rainy Salt Spring Island, B.C.

My G.G.Grandfather was John McMILLAN a Society Schoolmaster from around 1828 at Glen Moriston, after 1844 at Blaich, and then in the Fort William area, before migrating with his wife Ann CAMERON and children in 1859 to Christchurch,New Zealand. One married daughter remained behind, Helen married to Donald McPherson of Ceannacroc, Glen Moriston. Does anyone have information about John McMillan or the Society for Propating Christian Knowledge in Scotland. Also interested in the family of his wife Ann CAMERON d/o Ewen Cameron and Helen McDONNELL(born Livershie) who farmed Tom Craskie, Glen Moriston from around 1804 until 1865. Any information appreciated. Gloria Wilks, N.S.W.Australia

Hi Rick: Not much help but I do hope you have looked at the Frasers website. URL attached. Good Luck Lorraine Ottawa, Canada http://www.thefrasers.com

Hello folks, Would anyone be researching the family of Simon and Ann Fraser who sailed from Kilmorach to Pictou, Nova Scotia aboard the Sarah in 1801? I believe they are my ggg grandparents. I have lots of info on their decendants to share. Thanks in advance! Rick MacNeil Toronto, Canada

Dear Friends, Yesterday I got my bank statement. I was pleasantly surprised to find that the ATM transactions fees for cash while in Scotland was only $4.00, and the exchange rate was figured at the time of transaction. In the past I have taken Travelers Checks, and was charged for the checks, and charged a fee when I cashed them. ATM machines were plentiful, and it was a no bother situation. While I was waiting for my baggage in Glasgow Airport I went to an ATM machine and got cash. The following is the URL I used to find ATM machines: http://www.visa.com/pd/atm/main.html There is one catch, one must have money in their checking account! Best to all, Bob http://www.thefrasers.com This site is dedicated to all people of the name Fraser!! Please join in The Fraser Discussion Forum

In a message dated 19/05/00 4:12:04 PM Central Daylight Time, mark@highland-family-heritage.co.uk writes: Mark you are most correct and accurate in your description of the Sheriff in Scotland. What I was trying to do was show the difference between the Sheriff in the US which is more of a police force, and that they were the same in areas such as foreclosure of property etc. Sorry if my thoughts were a bit disjointed and thanks for the corrections and picking up the slack. DaveM << Hi folks, not sue which Sheriff my old friend Dave McLean is referring to as collecting taxes etc, it certainly isn't the Scottish variety. Scotland is divided into Sheriffdoms (at present there are 6) which at the time of the outbreak of WWII was more based on County lines. Each Sheriffdom is divided into Sheriff Court Districts. In the Highlands on the mainland there is Wick, Dornoch, Tain, Dingwall, Inverness, Fort William, Oban and Elgin. There is also Kirkwall and Lerwick in the Northern Isles, Stornoway, Portree and Lochmaddy in the Western Isles and Skye. Prior to 1973 Nairnshire was attached to Morayshire (Elginshire) and after 1973 to Inverness-shire. Nairn itself doesn't have a Sheriff Court, only a District Court. >>