Dear Friends, Does anyone have information on how to trace Catholic marriages during the mid 1800's in Scotland. I would be interested in knowing how to go about the task. I have names and dates to check. Regards, Bob http://thefrasers.com This site is dedicated to all people of the name Fraser!! Please visit The Fraser Discussion Forum

----- Original Message ----- From: "ALLANA MCLEAN" <allanamcl@home.com> To: <SCT-INVERNESS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 22 June 2000 13:51 Subject: [SCT-INV-L] Re: Parish > Dear Readers: > > Can SKP who knows the area tell me in which parish Kyleakin is located, Sleat > or Strath. > > Thanks in advance for your help. > > Allana (MacDonald) McLean > allanamcl@home.com > >According to 1881 mormon CDs census Kyleakin is in the Parish of Strath, Inverness-shire. Donald. > > >

Can SKS tell me what port highlanders from Glengarry district would have used in the mid 1800's to emigrate to Australia? Was Fort William such a port? I understand the migrants to Canada left from Fort William to go to Canada in 1770 & 1790 but I don't know if they shipped to say Liverpool, and then departed from there. David Australia

Ref: Pictou County, New Glasgow I am looking for records from the Rev. James MACGREGOR for the years of about 1801 to 1815. Why? I would like to know if my great great great grandfather, William MacLean, who got off the ship The Sarah in 1801 had living parents or siblings with him and find out what happened to them. William married Margaret Chisholm, not sure of the exact date but estimated somewhere between 1812-1815 (their first child was born in 1815). He was only 11 years old when he arrived, and went to work for the merchant king, Edward MORTIMER. Mortimer later gave William 100 acres of land for his years of service - this would have been probably around 1812-1815 when he married Margaret - maybe a wedding gift? We have the deeds from when William sold part of the land to my great great grandfather John McLean, and his last will and testament as well. It was located starting at the East River and a long, narrow strip of 100 acres right across Fraser's Mountain. Does anyone have access to these pre-1815 records? Thanks! Rob McLean

Dear Readers: Can SKP who knows the area tell me in which parish Kyleakin is located, Sleat or Strath. Thanks in advance for your help. Allana (MacDonald) McLean allanamcl@home.com

Looking for family from Waternish. Murdoch (McCodrum) MacDonald from North Uist about 1840. Married Mary...Had five daughters--Mary m Alexander MacLeod, Had two children, William and Mary. Need info for family tree....John Stinson Jacksonville, FL

I just found a scrap of paper on which my mother had written, "Gulvain Mt. Grandma MacLean." Where is Gulvain Mt? Other notes I have say that she lived near Glamaig and that's the reference point I've been using. Could SKS please tell me if Gulvain is part of the Cullinens? Marion Markham

In message <394DA1E3.2721@intranet.ca>, E. Spencer <espencer@intranet.ca> writes >Hello Everyone: > >I would like to share this poem with you that I got on another >site. I would also like to know if there is ANYONE that has >the 1851 Census (Inverness). I know there are people with some >of it but I sure would like to hear from someone that could search >the Isle of Skye for me. Has anyone transcribed it, can it be >purchased. Any help appreciated. Many Thanks >Lorraine Ottawa, Canada > > Hi Lorraine I have a copy of the 1851 Census. But you have not included who you would like researched?? Let me know and I will have a look. George -- George D. Christie " Change is not made without inconvenience, even from worse to better "

In a message dated 19/06/00 7:03:51 PM Central Daylight Time, hdibbs@intranet.ca writes: << Hi Lorraine, The Skye 1851 Census is available on 2 microfiches through the LDS Family History Centres. In fact, I , who also live in Ottawa, have recently ordered it and it should be available here in about a month. Ruth >> Hi Ruth and Lorraine. I noticed you live in Ottawa area. Have either of you been down to the Glen Cafe just past the Hazeldean Mall, (think that's it) Great Scottish food and music as well as draft beer, MacQueens and Tennants etc. Dave M.

Hi Lorraine, The Skye 1851 Census is available on 2 microfiches through the LDS Family History Centres. In fact, I , who also live in Ottawa, have recently ordered it and it should be available here in about a month. Ruth SCT-INVERNESS-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Subject: > > SCT-INVERNESS-D Digest Volume 00 : Issue 189 > > Today's Topics: > #1 [SCT-INV-L] Gathering of Highland [Skyedam@aol.com] > #2 [SCT-INV-L] 1851 Census ["E. Spencer" <espencer@intranet.ca] > #3 Re: [SCT-INV-L] 1851 Census ["Macquarie Business Associates Pty] > #4 Re: [SCT-INV-L] Confusion over for ["George D. Christie" <george@kinmy] > #5 [SCT-INV-L] Lindsay ["Jenny Craig" <jcraig@hypermax.net] > #6 Re: [SCT-INV-L] Confusion over for ["Jane Macgillivray" <jane@providen] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from SCT-INVERNESS-D, send a message to > > SCT-INVERNESS-D-request@rootsweb.com > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [SCT-INV-L] Gathering of Highland Scots > Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 21:46:01 EDT > From: Skyedam@aol.com > To: SCT-INVERNESS-L@rootsweb.com > > A GATHERING OF > HIGHLAND SCOTS. > CAPE BRETON ISLAND, > INVERNESS COUNTY, > NOVA SCOTIA, CANADA. > > GLENDALE & AREA ROOTS > GENEALOGY GATHERING 2000 > August 12-13, 2000 > With guest speaker > Jim St.Clair, Genealogist, Inverness County > > The settlement in Nova Scotia by hardy Scots Highlanders will be celebrated > at a special gathering of their descendants and history buffs. Sponsored by > the Glendale Gaelic and Historical Society at the St. Mary of Angels Parish > Hall, Glendale, 105 Transcanada Highway, Inverness County, Cape Breton, Nova > Scotia. > > Come and take part in Highland history in North America! Also to speak, > Geologist/Entertainer Wally Ellison. See the complete program full of > activities and the registration form at: > > <A HREF="http://capebretonscots.com/">Highland Scots in Cape > Breton, Nova Scotia, Canada</A> > http://Capebretonscots.com > > Reach us at: > Dick MacLeod - Hilanderpm@aol.com > Dave MacLeod - Skyedam@aol.com > Marina MacIntyre - Saerclib@rs6000.nshpl.library.ns.ca > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [SCT-INV-L] 1851 Census > Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 00:30:27 -0400 > From: "E. Spencer" <espencer@intranet.ca> > To: SCT-INVERNESS-L@rootsweb.com > > Hello Everyone: > > I would like to share this poem with you that I got on another > site. I would also like to know if there is ANYONE that has > the 1851 Census (Inverness). I know there are people with some > of it but I sure would like to hear from someone that could search > the Isle of Skye for me. Has anyone transcribed it, can it be > purchased. Any help appreciated. Many Thanks > Lorraine Ottawa, Canada > > CENSUS TAKER > > It was the first day of census, and all through the land; > The pollster was ready ... a black book in hand. > He mounted his horse for a long dusty ride; > His book and some quills were tucked close by his side. > > A long winding ride down a road barely there; > Toward the smell of fresh bread wafting, up through the air. > The woman was tired, with lines on her face; > And wisps of brown hair she tucked back into place. > > She gave him some water ... as they sat at the table; > And she answered his questions ... the best she was able. > He asked of her children... Yes, she had quite a few; > The oldest was twenty, the youngest not two. > > She held up a toddler with cheeks round and red; > His sister, she whispered, was napping in bed. > She noted each person who lived there with pride; > And she felt the faint stirrings of the wee one inside. > > He noted the sex, the color, the age... > The marks from the quill soon filled up the page. > At the number of children, she nodded her head; > And saw her lips quiver for the three that were dead. > > The places of birth she "never forgot"; > Was it Kansas? or Utah? or Oregon ... or not? > They came from Scotland, of that she was clear; > But she wasn't quite sure just how long they'd been here. > > They spoke of employment, of schooling and such; > They could read some and write some .. though really not much. > When the questions were answered, his job there was done; > So he mounted his horse and he rode toward the sun. > > We can almost imagine his voice loud and clear; > "May God bless you all for another ten years." > > Now picture a time warp ... its' now you and me; > As we search for the people on our family tree. > > We squint at the census and scroll down so slow; > As we search for that entry from long, long ago. > Could they only imagine on that long ago day; > That the entries they made would effect us this way? > > If they knew, would they wonder at the yearning we feel; > And the searching that makes them so increasingly real. > We can hear if we listen the words they impart; > Through their blood in our veins and their voice in our heart. > > Author Unknown > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: [SCT-INV-L] 1851 Census > Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 15:58:42 +0100 > From: "Macquarie Business Associates Pty Ltd" <mbapl@hunterlink.net.au> > To: SCT-INVERNESS-L@rootsweb.com > > Hi Lorraine, > > I'm sure someone else will reply to you on the Census - but as to the poem - > it was just beautiful! > > Thanks > > Thelma > > From: E. Spencer <espencer@intranet.ca> > > >Hello Everyone: > > > >I would like to share this poem with you that I got on another > >site. I would also like to know if there is ANYONE that has > >the 1851 Census (Inverness). I know there are people with some > >of it but I sure would like to hear from someone that could search > >the Isle of Skye for me. Has anyone transcribed it, can it be > >purchased. Any help appreciated. Many Thanks > >Lorraine Ottawa, Canada > > > > > >CENSUS TAKER > > > >It was the first day of census, and all through the land; > >The pollster was ready ... a black book in hand. > >He mounted his horse for a long dusty ride; > >His book and some quills were tucked close by his side. > > > >A long winding ride down a road barely there; > >Toward the smell of fresh bread wafting, up through the air. > >The woman was tired, with lines on her face; > >And wisps of brown hair she tucked back into place. > > > >She gave him some water ... as they sat at the table; > >And she answered his questions ... the best she was able. > >He asked of her children... Yes, she had quite a few; > >The oldest was twenty, the youngest not two. > > > >She held up a toddler with cheeks round and red; > >His sister, she whispered, was napping in bed. > >She noted each person who lived there with pride; > >And she felt the faint stirrings of the wee one inside. > > > >He noted the sex, the color, the age... > >The marks from the quill soon filled up the page. > >At the number of children, she nodded her head; > >And saw her lips quiver for the three that were dead. > > > >The places of birth she "never forgot"; > >Was it Kansas? or Utah? or Oregon ... or not? > >They came from Scotland, of that she was clear; > >But she wasn't quite sure just how long they'd been here. > > > >They spoke of employment, of schooling and such; > >They could read some and write some .. though really not much. > >When the questions were answered, his job there was done; > >So he mounted his horse and he rode toward the sun. > > > >We can almost imagine his voice loud and clear; > >"May God bless you all for another ten years." > > > >Now picture a time warp ... its' now you and me; > >As we search for the people on our family tree. > > > >We squint at the census and scroll down so slow; > >As we search for that entry from long, long ago. > >Could they only imagine on that long ago day; > >That the entries they made would effect us this way? > > > >If they knew, would they wonder at the yearning we feel; > >And the searching that makes them so increasingly real. > >We can hear if we listen the words they impart; > >Through their blood in our veins and their voice in our heart. > > > >Author Unknown > > > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: [SCT-INV-L] Confusion over forename > Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 08:19:37 +0100 > From: "George D. Christie" <george@kinmylie.demon.co.uk> > To: SCT-INVERNESS-L@rootsweb.com > > In message <LPBBIADAJGKLBAEPNDBLOELDCCAA.mackenzi@cytanet.com.cy>, Alan > <mackenzi@cytanet.com.cy> writes > >Hello all, > > > >I am researching my father (MACKENZIE) side and am not really getting far > >due to a severe lack of information. > >The earliest "proof" that I have got is a marriage certificate for Alexander > >John MACKENZIE and Mary Anne MACDONALD who were married 30th Oct 1912. > >His mother and father are listed on the certificate as Alexander MACKENZIE > >and Mary MACPHERSON. > >Now here's where the confusion lies. I have been to the LDS site and > >checked for the mother and father and there is a search result there of 02 > >August 1867. I went to check this with the Scots Origins site and there is > >no such listing, in fact I went through the whole of the 1800's just to be > >thorough and there is no search result at all for an Alexander MACKENZIE and > >Mary MACPHERSON. I made sure the search was wide open with wild cards and > >such like, but still no result. > >However, there is a result for a John MACKENZIE and Mary MACPHERSON given as > >1874 in Kingussie and Insh. > >Now, given that the name of the son is Alexander John MACKENZIE, is it > >feasible that there is a mistake on the marriage certificate, and that the > >name is in fact John MACKENZIE, or perhaps a mistake on Scots Origins > >whereby the middle name has been used instead of the forename? > > > >I would be extremely grateful if anyone could provide advice on this one, > >perhaps even a census lookup if someone has the time as I am completely > >stuck on this one. > > > >Many thanks in advance. > > > >Alan Mackenzie > > > Hi Alan > what was the occupation of Alexander? This should be on the > marriage certificate. It sometimes helps to thin down the search. > George > -- > George D. Christie > " Change is not made without inconvenience, even from worse > to better " > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [SCT-INV-L] Lindsay > Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 17:16:06 +1000 > From: "Jenny Craig" <jcraig@hypermax.net.au> > To: SCT-INVERNESS-L@rootsweb.com > > Hello Fellow Listers, > > I don't know if I'm on the right list but am looking for any information on > George LINDSAY and his wife Emily (SMITH. They immigrated to Australia in > 1887 with their children Frances Louise Lindsay (1876) and Colin Hunter > Lindsay (1879) They were listed on he 1881 census as living at Lancashire, > England, but I understand that George, a banker's clerk was born in Lauder, > Scotland. > Anything on this family would be appreciated. > Regards > Jenny Craig > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: [SCT-INV-L] Confusion over forename > Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 09:27:48 +0100 > From: "Jane Macgillivray" <jane@providence2000.freeserve.co.uk> > To: SCT-INVERNESS-L@rootsweb.com > > Dear Alan, > I wouldn't know what proportion of marriages are missing from LDS and Scots > Origin, but it is extremely high. The marriage could have been in the Free > Church and I believe most of these marriages are not listed by Scots Origin. > I have also seen first names of parents differ for baptisms of children when > it's obvious it's the same couple. > How about going to LDS (I don't know how to do this on-line, I don't think > you can get the computer to cough up unnamed siblings but I may be wrong) > and finding possible siblings of Alexander John Mackenzie - children of > every couple called Alexander Mackenzie and Ann Macdonald (there could well > be more than one such couple) - and see which couple is the most likely > based on same first names. You would then get an idea of the places that the > couple came from and be able to look at the register of that parish. > > If you find a listing as you have done in LDS but not Scots Origin, the > insertion is probably on the Ancestral File - someone has given the > information to LDS. You can find their source and try and contact them, > they would be your relations. > Anyway, good luck! Jane > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alan <mackenzi@cytanet.com.cy> > To: SCT-INVERNESS-L@rootsweb.com <SCT-INVERNESS-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 18 June 2000 11:54 > Subject: [SCT-INV-L] Confusion over forename > > >Hello all, > > > >I am researching my father (MACKENZIE) side and am not really getting far > >due to a severe lack of information. > >The earliest "proof" that I have got is a marriage certificate for > Alexander > >John MACKENZIE and Mary Anne MACDONALD who were married 30th Oct 1912. > >His mother and father are listed on the certificate as Alexander MACKENZIE > >and Mary MACPHERSON. > >Now here's where the confusion lies. I have been to the LDS site and > >checked for the mother and father and there is a search result there of 02 > >August 1867. I went to check this with the Scots Origins site and there is > >no such listing, in fact I went through the whole of the 1800's just to be > >thorough and there is no search result at all for an Alexander MACKENZIE > and > >Mary MACPHERSON. I made sure the search was wide open with wild cards and > >such like, but still no result. > >However, there is a result for a John MACKENZIE and Mary MACPHERSON given > as > >1874 in Kingussie and Insh. > >Now, given that the name of the son is Alexander John MACKENZIE, is it > >feasible that there is a mistake on the marriage certificate, and that the > >name is in fact John MACKENZIE, or perhaps a mistake on Scots Origins > >whereby the middle name has been used instead of the forename? > > > >I would be extremely grateful if anyone could provide advice on this one, > >perhaps even a census lookup if someone has the time as I am completely > >stuck on this one. > > > >Many thanks in advance. > > > >Alan Mackenzie > > > >______________________________

Hi there Alan and others, It seems my KENNEDY's from the Kingussie area have in the past mixed in with McPHERSON name. I have the following:- Anne McPHERSON m. William KENNEDY c1724 - Kingussie Isabel McPHERSON m. William KENNEDY 1784 - Westertown of Glenbanchor James McPHERSON m. Jane McRAE c1830's - Kingussie Jane McPHERSON m. Angus KENNEDY c1850 - Kingussie Janet McPHERSON m. Donald KENEDY c1767 - Kingussie Janet McPHERSON m. James McQUEEN c1828 - Kingussie Jean McPHERSON m. Angus KENNEDY 1814 - Kingussie Maddie McPHERSON m. Evan KENNEDY c1827 - Kingussie Margaret McPHERSONm. Paul KENNEDY c1781 - Laggan Marjory McPHERSON m. Evan KENNEDY 1826 - Kingussie Marsly McPHERSON m. James KENNEDY c1828 - Kingussie May McPHERSON m. James KENNEDY c1830 - Kingussie Do any of these McPHERSON's ring any bells??? Hope so!!! Kind Regards, Brent SMITH Sydney, Australia rbrents@zip.com.au

Hi Lorraine, I'm sure someone else will reply to you on the Census - but as to the poem - it was just beautiful! Thanks Thelma From: E. Spencer <espencer@intranet.ca> >Hello Everyone: > >I would like to share this poem with you that I got on another >site. I would also like to know if there is ANYONE that has >the 1851 Census (Inverness). I know there are people with some >of it but I sure would like to hear from someone that could search >the Isle of Skye for me. Has anyone transcribed it, can it be >purchased. Any help appreciated. Many Thanks >Lorraine Ottawa, Canada > > >CENSUS TAKER > >It was the first day of census, and all through the land; >The pollster was ready ... a black book in hand. >He mounted his horse for a long dusty ride; >His book and some quills were tucked close by his side. > >A long winding ride down a road barely there; >Toward the smell of fresh bread wafting, up through the air. >The woman was tired, with lines on her face; >And wisps of brown hair she tucked back into place. > >She gave him some water ... as they sat at the table; >And she answered his questions ... the best she was able. >He asked of her children... Yes, she had quite a few; >The oldest was twenty, the youngest not two. > >She held up a toddler with cheeks round and red; >His sister, she whispered, was napping in bed. >She noted each person who lived there with pride; >And she felt the faint stirrings of the wee one inside. > >He noted the sex, the color, the age... >The marks from the quill soon filled up the page. >At the number of children, she nodded her head; >And saw her lips quiver for the three that were dead. > >The places of birth she "never forgot"; >Was it Kansas? or Utah? or Oregon ... or not? >They came from Scotland, of that she was clear; >But she wasn't quite sure just how long they'd been here. > >They spoke of employment, of schooling and such; >They could read some and write some .. though really not much. >When the questions were answered, his job there was done; >So he mounted his horse and he rode toward the sun. > >We can almost imagine his voice loud and clear; >"May God bless you all for another ten years." > >Now picture a time warp ... its' now you and me; >As we search for the people on our family tree. > >We squint at the census and scroll down so slow; >As we search for that entry from long, long ago. >Could they only imagine on that long ago day; >That the entries they made would effect us this way? > >If they knew, would they wonder at the yearning we feel; >And the searching that makes them so increasingly real. >We can hear if we listen the words they impart; >Through their blood in our veins and their voice in our heart. > >Author Unknown >

Dear Alan, I wouldn't know what proportion of marriages are missing from LDS and Scots Origin, but it is extremely high. The marriage could have been in the Free Church and I believe most of these marriages are not listed by Scots Origin. I have also seen first names of parents differ for baptisms of children when it's obvious it's the same couple. How about going to LDS (I don't know how to do this on-line, I don't think you can get the computer to cough up unnamed siblings but I may be wrong) and finding possible siblings of Alexander John Mackenzie - children of every couple called Alexander Mackenzie and Ann Macdonald (there could well be more than one such couple) - and see which couple is the most likely based on same first names. You would then get an idea of the places that the couple came from and be able to look at the register of that parish. If you find a listing as you have done in LDS but not Scots Origin, the insertion is probably on the Ancestral File - someone has given the information to LDS. You can find their source and try and contact them, they would be your relations. Anyway, good luck! Jane -----Original Message----- From: Alan <mackenzi@cytanet.com.cy> To: SCT-INVERNESS-L@rootsweb.com <SCT-INVERNESS-L@rootsweb.com> Date: 18 June 2000 11:54 Subject: [SCT-INV-L] Confusion over forename >Hello all, > >I am researching my father (MACKENZIE) side and am not really getting far >due to a severe lack of information. >The earliest "proof" that I have got is a marriage certificate for Alexander >John MACKENZIE and Mary Anne MACDONALD who were married 30th Oct 1912. >His mother and father are listed on the certificate as Alexander MACKENZIE >and Mary MACPHERSON. >Now here's where the confusion lies. I have been to the LDS site and >checked for the mother and father and there is a search result there of 02 >August 1867. I went to check this with the Scots Origins site and there is >no such listing, in fact I went through the whole of the 1800's just to be >thorough and there is no search result at all for an Alexander MACKENZIE and >Mary MACPHERSON. I made sure the search was wide open with wild cards and >such like, but still no result. >However, there is a result for a John MACKENZIE and Mary MACPHERSON given as >1874 in Kingussie and Insh. >Now, given that the name of the son is Alexander John MACKENZIE, is it >feasible that there is a mistake on the marriage certificate, and that the >name is in fact John MACKENZIE, or perhaps a mistake on Scots Origins >whereby the middle name has been used instead of the forename? > >I would be extremely grateful if anyone could provide advice on this one, >perhaps even a census lookup if someone has the time as I am completely >stuck on this one. > >Many thanks in advance. > >Alan Mackenzie > >______________________________

In message <LPBBIADAJGKLBAEPNDBLOELDCCAA.mackenzi@cytanet.com.cy>, Alan <mackenzi@cytanet.com.cy> writes >Hello all, > >I am researching my father (MACKENZIE) side and am not really getting far >due to a severe lack of information. >The earliest "proof" that I have got is a marriage certificate for Alexander >John MACKENZIE and Mary Anne MACDONALD who were married 30th Oct 1912. >His mother and father are listed on the certificate as Alexander MACKENZIE >and Mary MACPHERSON. >Now here's where the confusion lies. I have been to the LDS site and >checked for the mother and father and there is a search result there of 02 >August 1867. I went to check this with the Scots Origins site and there is >no such listing, in fact I went through the whole of the 1800's just to be >thorough and there is no search result at all for an Alexander MACKENZIE and >Mary MACPHERSON. I made sure the search was wide open with wild cards and >such like, but still no result. >However, there is a result for a John MACKENZIE and Mary MACPHERSON given as >1874 in Kingussie and Insh. >Now, given that the name of the son is Alexander John MACKENZIE, is it >feasible that there is a mistake on the marriage certificate, and that the >name is in fact John MACKENZIE, or perhaps a mistake on Scots Origins >whereby the middle name has been used instead of the forename? > >I would be extremely grateful if anyone could provide advice on this one, >perhaps even a census lookup if someone has the time as I am completely >stuck on this one. > >Many thanks in advance. > >Alan Mackenzie > Hi Alan what was the occupation of Alexander? This should be on the marriage certificate. It sometimes helps to thin down the search. George -- George D. Christie " Change is not made without inconvenience, even from worse to better "

Hello Fellow Listers, I don't know if I'm on the right list but am looking for any information on George LINDSAY and his wife Emily (SMITH. They immigrated to Australia in 1887 with their children Frances Louise Lindsay (1876) and Colin Hunter Lindsay (1879) They were listed on he 1881 census as living at Lancashire, England, but I understand that George, a banker's clerk was born in Lauder, Scotland. Anything on this family would be appreciated. Regards Jenny Craig

Hello Everyone: I would like to share this poem with you that I got on another site. I would also like to know if there is ANYONE that has the 1851 Census (Inverness). I know there are people with some of it but I sure would like to hear from someone that could search the Isle of Skye for me. Has anyone transcribed it, can it be purchased. Any help appreciated. Many Thanks Lorraine Ottawa, Canada CENSUS TAKER It was the first day of census, and all through the land; The pollster was ready ... a black book in hand. He mounted his horse for a long dusty ride; His book and some quills were tucked close by his side. A long winding ride down a road barely there; Toward the smell of fresh bread wafting, up through the air. The woman was tired, with lines on her face; And wisps of brown hair she tucked back into place. She gave him some water ... as they sat at the table; And she answered his questions ... the best she was able. He asked of her children... Yes, she had quite a few; The oldest was twenty, the youngest not two. She held up a toddler with cheeks round and red; His sister, she whispered, was napping in bed. She noted each person who lived there with pride; And she felt the faint stirrings of the wee one inside. He noted the sex, the color, the age... The marks from the quill soon filled up the page. At the number of children, she nodded her head; And saw her lips quiver for the three that were dead. The places of birth she "never forgot"; Was it Kansas? or Utah? or Oregon ... or not? They came from Scotland, of that she was clear; But she wasn't quite sure just how long they'd been here. They spoke of employment, of schooling and such; They could read some and write some .. though really not much. When the questions were answered, his job there was done; So he mounted his horse and he rode toward the sun. We can almost imagine his voice loud and clear; "May God bless you all for another ten years." Now picture a time warp ... its' now you and me; As we search for the people on our family tree. We squint at the census and scroll down so slow; As we search for that entry from long, long ago. Could they only imagine on that long ago day; That the entries they made would effect us this way? If they knew, would they wonder at the yearning we feel; And the searching that makes them so increasingly real. We can hear if we listen the words they impart; Through their blood in our veins and their voice in our heart. Author Unknown

A GATHERING OF HIGHLAND SCOTS. CAPE BRETON ISLAND, INVERNESS COUNTY, NOVA SCOTIA, CANADA. GLENDALE & AREA ROOTS GENEALOGY GATHERING 2000 August 12-13, 2000 With guest speaker Jim St.Clair, Genealogist, Inverness County The settlement in Nova Scotia by hardy Scots Highlanders will be celebrated at a special gathering of their descendants and history buffs. Sponsored by the Glendale Gaelic and Historical Society at the St. Mary of Angels Parish Hall, Glendale, 105 Transcanada Highway, Inverness County, Cape Breton, Nova Scotia. Come and take part in Highland history in North America! Also to speak, Geologist/Entertainer Wally Ellison. See the complete program full of activities and the registration form at: <A HREF="http://capebretonscots.com/">Highland Scots in Cape Breton, Nova Scotia, Canada</A> http://Capebretonscots.com Reach us at: Dick MacLeod - Hilanderpm@aol.com Dave MacLeod - Skyedam@aol.com Marina MacIntyre - Saerclib@rs6000.nshpl.library.ns.ca

Hello all, I am researching my father (MACKENZIE) side and am not really getting far due to a severe lack of information. The earliest "proof" that I have got is a marriage certificate for Alexander John MACKENZIE and Mary Anne MACDONALD who were married 30th Oct 1912. His mother and father are listed on the certificate as Alexander MACKENZIE and Mary MACPHERSON. Now here's where the confusion lies. I have been to the LDS site and checked for the mother and father and there is a search result there of 02 August 1867. I went to check this with the Scots Origins site and there is no such listing, in fact I went through the whole of the 1800's just to be thorough and there is no search result at all for an Alexander MACKENZIE and Mary MACPHERSON. I made sure the search was wide open with wild cards and such like, but still no result. However, there is a result for a John MACKENZIE and Mary MACPHERSON given as 1874 in Kingussie and Insh. Now, given that the name of the son is Alexander John MACKENZIE, is it feasible that there is a mistake on the marriage certificate, and that the name is in fact John MACKENZIE, or perhaps a mistake on Scots Origins whereby the middle name has been used instead of the forename? I would be extremely grateful if anyone could provide advice on this one, perhaps even a census lookup if someone has the time as I am completely stuck on this one. Many thanks in advance. Alan Mackenzie

In a message dated 18/06/00 4:00:21 AM Central Daylight Time, mackenzi@cytanet.com.cy writes: << However, there is a result for a John MACKENZIE and Mary MACPHERSON given as 1874 in Kingussie and Insh. Now, given that the name of the son is Alexander John MACKENZIE, is it feasible that there is a mistake on the marriage certificate, and that the name is in fact John MACKENZIE, or perhaps a mistake on Scots Origins whereby the middle name has been used instead of the forename? I would be extremely grateful if anyone could provide advice on this one, perhaps even a census lookup if someone has the time as I am completely stuck on this one. Many thanks in advance. Alan Mackenzie >> Because of our cultural habit of naming children after parents and grand parents it can get confusing when it comes to names. Thus you end up with 3 or 4 Johns or Willams or Alexanders etc. To clarify you start to use tags or nic names such as (and the Newtonmoore Avimoore area is crammed with MacKenzies) for Alexander John MacKenzie: Alexander, Alex, Alec, Alexander John, Big Alec, Wee Alec, John, Jock, Jamie, and or any combination of them. That is a very short list. In my case My Dad was John, my brother was Iain (Gaelic for John) and pronounced Eyownie for the old form of the Gaelic for John. My middle name is Richard after my Garanda on my mothers side, and my Uncle is Richard after his Grandfather. At their house I was always referred to as Richard and not David. So we had a Great Grandfather Richard, My Grandfather Richard, My Uncle Richard and myself Richard. That became 1: Granda for all of us to my Great Grandfather, 2:Granda from me to my Grandfather, Ritchie for my uncle, and Richard for me, or from Great Grand Father Richard for my Granda, Ritchie for my uncle, and wee Richard or Rich for me. Now on my father's side there was Alexander my Grand father, Alistaire my uncle, Alexander my Uncle, Alexander 2 male cousins, Alistaire 2 male cousins, then there were 2nd and third cousins of the same name. Just imagine Dinner time when we were all together. OK not confused enough here is the clincher, where I spent a lot of my youth and call home is a small village called Melveigh, away up in the North West Coast of Scotland. Population about 30 people, all called Mr. or Mrs. MacLean. That makes most of the first names and all of the last names exactly the same. Thank goodness a lot of the other relatives lived 15 miles away in Gairloch a thriving metropolis of about 200 people dogs and sheep at the time. Even in the bright lights and big city of Gailoch it was hard to be lost. There was Uncle Donald the Bobby, Uncle Donald the shepherd, Uncle Donald the Mechanic, Uncle Alistaire the Hotel owner, Uncle Alistaire the Smithy, Uncle Alisaire the crofter, etc., etc., etc. To keep it simple I have not used the Gaelic translations of their names, nor have I used all the names of all the people. Now to answer your question in the usual Highland simplicity, aye chances are a name could be inverted. Kindest regards; Dave M.

In a message dated 17/06/00 10:51:50 PM Central Daylight Time, mclean@ctaz.com writes: << Does anyone know where to obtain information regarding a William McLean (listed as a laborer from Beaulyside) who sailed from Ft. William in 1801 on the ship The Sarah to Nova Scotia? We have info on his descendants. Thank you! Rob McLean >> This may a be a goopd place to start. Have you tried the MacLean pages on line? <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~sctroc/index.htm">Ross and Cromarty Scotland Genealogy</A> http://www.rootsweb.com/~sctroc/index.htm Dave M.