> Hello, > I am new to this list and looking for ancestors with the above > surnames, all which were reported to me by my Grandmother to have > come from Scotland. > There a few footnotes she has added to the "tree" specifying Inverness > as "home". Hello Rodger, You say new to the list, does that also mean new to genealogy? A couple of things which might help. 1. Did your grandmother say whereabouts in Inverness her family were from? If so include the place name + approx. dates in your message. 2. Can you think of anyone who might be on the 1881 census for Scotland, their approx. age and hopefully ocupation, someone on the list could then look them up on the census cd. 3. Or you can look at the 1881 censu on fiche, yourself, at your local Latter Day Saints Family History centre, a list of centres is at http://www.familysearch.org/ ...... then click 'browse categories' to get to http://www.familysearch.org/Browse/browse.asp..... look at 'Libraries' and continue from there, Hope something turns up, regards, Maureen Kuzyk.

--part1_47.1cfce4.26db13c5_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To all listers, I sent the following on the 9th and did not receive anything of consequence so I am reposting in hopes that the related information, as paltry as it is, may strike a bell with someone's own research or roots. I apologize for the repeat but am at a dead end due to lack of living relatives at this point and being out of the country. Thanks for your patience, Rodger Airey Marlton, New Jersey --part1_47.1cfce4.26db13c5_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: <Pontlemsprt@aol.com> From: Pontlemsprt@aol.com Full-name: Pontlemsprt Message-ID: <2f.900c147.26c3483a@aol.com> Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 19:50:18 EDT Subject: GRANT, WALLACE, GILLIES, LOWREY, McNEIL, RODGER To: SCT-INVERNESS-L@rootsweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 111 Hello, I am new to this list and looking for ancestors with the above surnames, all which were reported to me by my Grandmother to have come from Scotland. There a few footnotes she has added to the "tree" specifying Inverness as "home". Specifically, Thomas GRANT married Jane WALLACE whose mother was Jane LOWREY. Also, I have Murdoch GILLIES (born 1814, Inverness) as having married Sarah MCNEIL whose father was Hector McNEIL. Lastly, I have John RODGER marrying Ann ? and his parents were William and Elizabeth RODGER. If there are any connections out there, I would like to hear from you. If anyone has any lookup data to share, I'd be very appreciative. I can certainly share my lines with anyone interested. Thank you, Rodger Airey --part1_47.1cfce4.26db13c5_boundary--

Is anyone researching MCGREGOR's in Urquhart? in the early 1800's. would like to exchange info. Julie

I have to unsubscribe for a time. Many thanks. If anyone wants to contact me re Donald McLeod, born C1800/1811 Isle of Skye, who married Catherine McMillan in 1830 in Saddell, Argyll, I can be contacted at: aenone@globalfreeway.com.au Cheers from Tasmania AEnone,

Hello Jen, I found this among my many "useful" printout lists for genealogy. I think it is the Scottish naming pattern: 1st Son after Paternal Grandfather. 2nd son after Maternal Grandfather. 3rd son after Father. 4th son after Father's brother. and so on until no brothers left, then moving on to the mother's brothers,etc. 1st daughter after Maternal Grandmother. 2nd daughter after Paternal Grandmother. 3rd daughter after Mother. 4th daughter after Mother's sister. and so on, until no sisters left, then moving on to Father's sisters,etc. Hope this helps. Cheers from Tasmania AEnone.

Would some kind person who has the notes at hand for naming children according to Scottish tradition please email them to me. Confusion reigns supreme at this stage! Kind regards, Jen ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jennifer Lambert Tracey HERITAGE ARCHAEOLOGY Archaeological & Heritage Assessment Consultants PO Box 4265 KINGSTON ACT 2604 AUSTRALIA Tel / Fax: (02) 6295 6795 Mobile Tel: 0419 011 860 http://www.heritagearchaeology.com.au ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I am seeking information on the following family: Alexander MENMUIR b. c1821 Marykirk, Kincardine, Scotland m. Jessie RAMSAY 7 Oct 1848 at Kincardine O'Neil, Aberdeen, Scotland. Alexander d. 14 Mar 1890 Kiltarlity, Inverness, Scotland; bd. 17 Mar 1890. Children of Alexander and Jessie, born at Laurencekirk, Kincardine, were: Alexander MENMUIR b. 31 Aug 1849. No mention of him in family records. May have died? Elizabeth MENMUIR b. 7 Feb 1852. Lived close enough to Kiltarlity to arrive for father's funeral by the morning mail the day following his death. Jessie Ann MENMUIR b. 20 Feb 1855. Arrived for the funeral by the midday mail. John Ramsay MENMUIR b. 13 Dec 1857. At 1881 census may have been boarding at Lilieshall Street, Kildonan, Sutherland with Gordon CLUNAS. Was not advised of father's death in 1890 so may have died by then? Mary MENMUIR b. 2 Jun 1860. At home in Kiltarlity for 1881 census. By 1890 had married (Murdo ?) and was living at Tore with at least two chn. Was too ill to attend father's funeral, bore a new daughter on 2 March? William MENMUIR b. 2 Aug 1863.m Lily Hamilton McLEAN (dau of Alexander McLEAN and Elizabeth HAMILTON prev of Lamlash, Arran but later living in or near Beauly, Inv) at Capetown, Sth Africa on 26 Aug 1897. William and Lily finally emigrated to Australia, but that is another story. Margaret MENMUIR b. 2 Jan 1866. 1881 census may have been living as General Serv Domestic with Hugh Munro, Teacher Pub School, and his sister Eliza Munro at 3 Tomnacross, Kiltarlity, Inverness. Later became a school teacher herself and in Aug 1890 was teaching at Leckmelm. And, born at Kiltarlity, Inverness, were: Harriet (Harry) MENMUIR b. 7 Oct 1867. 1881 census at home. Arrived for funeral at 3.45pm the day following father's death. In July 1890 Harry was expecting to go to Glenluce. In May 1892 William visited her at 14 Coates Crescent, Edinburgh. David MENMUIR b. 17 Sep 1869. 1881 census at home. In 1890 was living at Belladrum and was described as being "on duty". Fortunately William, my Grandfather, left a couple of diaries from which a lot of this information has been gleaned. I would be delighted to hear from anyone who is researching or has information about any of this family. Brian Heany In the Illawarra District of New South Wales Australia.

I am seeking information on the following family: Alexander McLEAN (son of Archibald McLEAN and Catherine McKENZIE) was born on 26 Dec 1837 at Stornoway, Ross and Cromarty, Scotland. He married Elizabeth HAMILTON (dau of Alexander HAMILTON and Janet FULLARTON) at the Established Church of Scotland, Blaremore, near Lamlash (Arran), parish of Kilbride, on 11 Feb 1861. Elizabeth was born c 1840 in Lamlash. Alexander McLEAN was employed as a Preventive Man. Elizabeth's occupation was given as Dressmaker. Children of Alexander McLEAN and Elizabeth HAMILTON were: Catherine (Kate) McLEAN b. 30 Oct 1861 at Lamlash, Kilbride, Scotland. Md. Archibald DICHMONT (son of George DICHMONT and Elizabeth (Betty) DUCKWORTH, both of Oswaldtwistle, Lancs, Eng) after 1881. In April 1892 Kate and Archie were living at 22 Albert Street, Oswaldtwistle with two children. By 1897 Kate and Archie had emigrated to Capetown, South Africa. Jessie McLEAN b. 19 Mar 1863 at Lamlash. Jessie Elizabeth McLEAN b. 6 May 1867 at Lamlash. Lily Hamilton McLEAN b. 3 Mar 1869 at Blaremore, near Lamlash, par Kilbride, Co Bute, Scotland. Md. William MENMUIR, son of Alexander MENMUIR and Jessie RAMSAY, on 26 Aug 1897 in Capetown, South Africa. William and Lily had three children born in Capetown, Alistair Hamilton, 1898; Lily Ramsay, 19 Nov 1900; Daisy (Maisie) 1903. On 28 March 1908 Lily McLEAN and her three children left Capetown for London and Largs where they stayed while William sailed for Australia. They joined him in Sydney, Australia two years later. Elizabeth McLEAN b. c1877 in Glen Urquhart, Inverness, Scotland. Lily McLean's birthday book has an entry for Lizzie MacLean on 9 September. Christina McLEAN b. c 1878 in Glen Urquhart, Inverness, Scotland. Lily McLean's birthday book has an entry for Tina MacLean on 19 December. On the 1881 census The family, with the exception of Jessie and Jessie Elizabeth,(it is possible that they had died) are at Kilmorack, Inverness, Scotland. Alexander's occupation is Inld Rev Preventative Man, Kate a Teacher and Lily a Scholar. I would be delighted to hear from anyone who is researching or has further information about any of these family members. Brian Heany In the Illawarra District of New South Wales Australia

Would listers researching the names McLEOD and McINNES please check your notes to see if you have any reference to the marriage [Catholic] of a John McINNES to Sarah McLEOD. Their daughter, Annie was born 1817 - 1818 in Inverness. Much appreciate any possible connections. Best wishes, Jen ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jennifer Lambert Tracey HERITAGE ARCHAEOLOGY Archaeological & Heritage Assessment Consultants PO Box 4265 KINGSTON ACT 2604 AUSTRALIA Tel / Fax: (02) 6295 6795 Mobile Tel: 0419 011 860 http://www.heritagearchaeology.com.au ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Hi List This is my first posting to this list. Also my first time at searching scotlish history. Can someone please tell me what records are available as far a births deaths and marriages are concerned. My interest are in the family name of FORBES William Forbes was a native of Inverness born about 1800- 1803 he was sent to Australia as a convict in 1828 an board the Albion (2). If anyone can help me with advise it would be great Happy Hunting Desley Laidler Australia names interest FORBES/ MCLEAN/ LAIDLER/ WILSON/ LESLIE/ McMILLAN/ JAMIESON/ ROSS All in Scotland (Please Help)

Hi everyone, Would an SKS with the 1871 census be kind enough to have a look for Annie/Ann Stewart nee Campbell born 1806 Fortingall, Perthshire. I do not know her husbands Christian name, sorry. TIA Regards Andrea

In a message dated 22/08/00 12:09:01 AM Central Daylight Time, arabin@wave.co.nz writes: << thanks everyone for your help, now have the email Shirley Arabin. Mount Maunganui, NEW ZEALAND "If at first I don't succeed there is always next year" >> If at first you don't succeed, send the wife. Dave

thanks everyone for your help, now have the email Shirley Arabin. Mount Maunganui, NEW ZEALAND "If at first I don't succeed there is always next year"

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Their web-site address is a bit of a mouthful. It is: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/scot/Highland.FHS.home.html Hope this helps. Regards, Mark Sutherland-Fisher Genealogist: Clan Sutherland Co-Genealogist: Clan Mackenzie Professional Genealogist specialising in the Highlands and 18th century see my web-site: http://www.highland-family-heritage.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: Shirley Arabin <arabin@wave.co.nz> To: <SCT-INVERNESS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2000 5:30 AM Subject: [SCT-INV-L] Highland Family History Society > Does anyone have an email address for above society please ? Wish to make > enquiries re joining. > > Shirley Arabin. Mount Maunganui, NEW ZEALAND > "If at first I don't succeed there is always next year" > > >

Does anyone have an email address for above society please ? Wish to make enquiries re joining. Shirley Arabin. Mount Maunganui, NEW ZEALAND "If at first I don't succeed there is always next year"

G'day Cobbers, Have the following McLEAN lineage: Descendants of Jean BRODIE & Charles McLEAN Charles McLEAN b. 1807/8?, occupation Salmon Fisherman, m. Jean BRODIE, 3 Dec 1809, Boyndie, Banff, Scotland, (daughter of James BRODIE and Isbel LAURANCE) d. 29 Jan 1869. I. Charles McLEAN b. 1833, Whitehills, Parish of Boyndie, Banffshir, occupation Master Blacksmith, m. 10 Jul 1856, in at Rhynie, Parish of Rhynie, Mary CLARK, b. 4 April 1833, Bruntland, Rhynie, Scotland, 4 April 1833, Rhynie & Essie, Aberdeenshire, SCT, (daughter of Robert CLARK and Helen GRANT) d. 7 June 1897, buried: ESSIL Cemetery (No 379), Scotland. Charles died 22 March 1902. A. William McLEAN b. 13 June 1858, Garmouth, Moray, Scotland, d. 5 July 1898, Germiston, Johannesburg, South Africa. B. Helen McLEAN b. 29 June 1859, Garmouth, Moray, Scotland, d. 7 Sept 1861, Garmouth, Moray, Scotland. C. Charles McLEAN b. 15 Sept 1860, Garmoth, Moray, Scotland. D. Robert Clark McLEAN b. 17 Feb 1863, Garmouth, Moray, Scotland, occupation Blacksmith/Farmer, m. 19 Mar 1889, in Kamirunga, Cairns, Queensland, Amelia Benton WHITEHOUSE, b. 28th June 1865, Birmingham, Warwick, England, (daughter of George WHITEHOUSE and Ann BENTON) d. 16 April 1956, Cairns, Qld, Australia, buried: Martyn Street cemetery res Cairns Qld, A. Robert died 20 Dec 1926, buried: 21 Dec 1926, Martyn Street Cemetery, Cairns, Qld, AUS. E. Mary Ann McLEAN b. 31 Aug 1865, Garmouth, Moray, Scotland, and Unknown, m. 26 Dec 1891, in Cairns, Queensland, Australia, Edward McINTOSH, b. c 1862, Inverness, Inverness, Scotland, (son of Duncan McINTOSH and Catherine MacDONALD) occupation Carpenter. F. John McLEAN b. 8 Sept 1867, Garmouth, Moray, Scotland. G. David Clark McLEAN b. 8 Feb 1871, Garmouth, Moray, Scotland, d. 25 Sept 1907, Onslow, Western Australia, Australia. H. Jane Brodie McLEAN b. 25 Oct 1872, Garmouth, Moray, Scotland. I. Alexander McLEAN b. 1877, Garmouth, Moray, Scotland. II. Jane McLEAN b. 1836, Whitehills, Parish of Boyndie, Banffshir, m. 8 Dec 1855, in Boyndie, Banff, Scotland, Harry INGLIS, b. 1827, Deskford, Banff, SCT, occupation Agricultural Labour/Farmer. Jane died 4 March 1866. A. John INGLIS b. 7 Jan 1857, Boyndie, Banff, Scotland. Looking for further ancestors/descendants for the above, can anybody assist me. Regards Greg Baldwin AIGS 9842 A&NESFHS 9933 CFHS 8731 KFHS 7737 Researching Surnames: ALLEN - Cornwall, UK. BALDWIN - Kent, UK>New Zealand> Qld, AUS BENTON - Warwick, UK BIRCH - Yorkshire, UK> Qld, Australia BRODIE - Parish of Boyndie, Banffshire, SCT CLARK - Rhynie & Essie, Aberdeen Scotland EDWARDS - Cornwall, UK. FRANCES - Australia GRANT - Parish of Rhynie, Aberdeen, Scotland INCH - Cornwall, UK>New Zealand LEYLAND - Warwick, UK. LUMSDEN - New Zealand MacDONALD - Inverness, SCT. MASSEY - Ireland>Qld, Australia McFADDEN - Ireland McINTOSH - Inverness, SCT > Qld, Australia McINTOSH - Ross Shire, Scotland>Qld, Australia McLEAN - Garmouth, Moray, Scotland>Qld, Australia McLEAVY - Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland>Qld, AUS OLIVER - Roxburgh, Scotland REEVES - Yorkshire (?), UK REYNOLDS - Cornwall, UK. RUDD - Qld, Australia SMITH - Scotland SPENCER - Scotland SPRENGER - Qld, Australia WHITEHOUSE - Warwick, UK. WILSON - Scotland>New Zealand email to: kennethb@melbpc.org.au Australian Genealogy: http://opax.swin.edu.au/andrew/aust_genealogy.html

Hi Laraine, Thanks so much for your help - be back in late September! Thelma

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In message <008d01c00808$d71c71a0$168dd2cf@powell>, Liz Powell <fivecats@onlink.net> writes >Hello everyone, I'm new to this list. My interests are mainly around >Smithton, and concern the family names of FRASER, HOSSACK, ROSE and McBEAN. > >Does anyone know if there is an index/list of burials at Petty? My GM's >family were from Smithton/Smithtown, and this is where they'd have been >buried I believe. > >As a child in 1956/1957 we camped at Smithton, and I returned a couple of >times later on in the early 1970's, but the row of 3 cottages that my GGGF >built were demolished by the mid 1970's after Liz Campbell died.........she >was the last occupant of them. I believe the site is now covered by an >'Estate' of houses......... and it used to be so quiet, a standpipe for >water which ran from a well up in the forests planted by Liz Campbell for >the Forestry Commission as War Work........ The Clouty Well..... up beyond >Cumberlands Stone. Folk used to tie pieces of cloth on a tree by the well, >not sure for what reason. The burn where a tree fell down one year after a >flood, then rose again from the ground some months later. And an earth >closet emptied by the council. But to my father and me it was our 'home' in >a way no other place on earth ever was. > >Anyone else remember Smithton like that ? > >I could go on, my GGU Duncan Hossack was a carpenter and coffin-maker... had >2nd sight. Built the bureau bookcase which stands in our sitting room here >in Canada. > >Liz Powell, Northern Ontario, Canada. > > > > Hi Liz I have been holding off my reply while trying to find some names and dates but have not had a chance as yet. The Old Petty Church yard monumental inscriptions have recently been done by two different people. There is no indication when it will be published but it should be soon. Are you sure they would be buried there?? If you are looking for a recent burial you should get in touch with Highland Council, Protective Services. They have lists of all internment's in the Inverness area and will do a search for a fee. Try writing to :- Council Buildings, Glenuruhart Road, Inverness, IV3 5NX I remember Smithton quite well, before the housing estate was built it was a young boy's adventure playground. There was an old grave yard, a bridge with a big tree growing at one end blocking half the width of the bridge and the "Clooty Well" just beyond.( Quite a distance before you get to the Cumberland stone.) A description from a book from 1954 on the " Clooty Well". " You have to go down past Blackpark farm to reach the Clooty Well, which attracts hosts of " well-wishers" on the first Sunday of May every year. It is quite an occasion, although about thirty buses and some 300 cars parked in a nearby field in 1953, the number was considered locally as being a poor turn-out." It was originally known as St. Mary's Well, then Fairy Well etc.. It carries on with the history and tradition of the well, but I do not have the time to type it all. Hope you have success George -- George D. Christie " Change is not made without inconvenience, even from worse to better "