Hello Dave (and the List) Thanks for your response to my posting about John Prebble's book "The Highland Clearences" and his reference there to Glengarry, which started all this. Prebble has a book "Mutiny", is this the book you refer to Dave for further reading? I can make no claim to being a Highlander. None of my ancestors came from the region. It's my wife's father's family, the Kennedys of Brackletter, who come from Brae Lochaber. How ever I claim spiritual connection through my full given name, Robert MacGregor Blackburn. I am called Greg, (and I prefer this) because there are too many other Roberts in the family. I think I am right to believe that the MacGregor lands were to the south of Lochaber over towards Argyll? I don't think I am related to Bobby Blackburn of Inverness, but just in case there is a relationship here is a little about my family. I have very little information about my g.grandfather James Blackburn, apart from he was probably born in 1840/1 in Belfast, Antrim. He married Susan Henney in Glasgow in 1870 and the two of them arrived in New Zealand in 1875, to settle in Eastren Southland, where my grandfather Robert was born. I have not been able so far to find a birth record, but one of my cousins says that the parents of James are John Blackburn and Martha Neilson. I still have to get a marriage record from Scotland, and with some luck I might make some progress from that. No one has found any record of his death or burial. He is in the electrol roll for 1911, and that's the end. My Blackburn grand Uncles and Aunts all born in New Zealand are John(Jack) Daniel, Alexander, Susan, Eliza, Martha, Kathleen, Agnes, Grace and Lilian. One source of information that I came across was an entry in Scottish Surnames which gives Berwickshire as the place of origin for the Name. Regards Greg Blackburn in Paekakariki New Zealand.

This photo was taken in Darien, Georgia. The Highlanders who came over with John Mohr McIntosh rebuilt the original Fort King George at the mouth of the Altamaha River & named the first settlement New Inverness, then Dairen, "for the ill-fated (Scottish) settlement on the Isthmus of Panama." Look on the McIntosh County site: http://www.gate.net/~anndavis/genmain.htm for more information. Stephen Edge > -----Original Message----- > From: nida rogers [mailto:iainida@hutchcity.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 4:59 AM > To: SCT-INVERNESS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SCT-INV-L] Is There Anywhere That We Have'nt Been? > > > Hello All, > > Whilst ploughing (still) through my late mother's Vast collection of > photo-graphs, I came across one that she took in 1963 on a > visit to the > United States. It is a snap-shot of a monument and, looking > at the cypress > trees in the back-ground, may have been taken in Florida. > > The inscription is as follows: > > To The > HIGHLANDERS of SCOTLAND > Who Founded NEW INVERNESS in 1736 A.D. > ================= > Their VALOR Defended The Struggling Colony > From ~ The ~ SPANISH ~ INVASION > Their Ideals Traditions and Culture > ENRICHED > The Land of Their Adoption. > > The capitals are as recorded on the inscription. > p.s. No prizes will be awarded for guessing where the > settlers came from. > > Best regards, > Iain Rogers, Hong Kong. > >

In a message dated 12/09/00 5:42:06 AM Central Daylight Time, KayandGregB@xtra.co.nz writes: << If you can find a copy as I did in a second hand book shop or where ever, buy it. You and I have no idea of the how the Highlands died! I can not write any more. You will have to read the book. The details of publication are: The Highland Clearances, John Prebble, Martin Secker & Warburg Ltd, London, 14 Carlisle Street, W1V 6NN. Printed 1963 and reprinted '63 '65 '67 '70 '71 '76. Regards Greg Blackburn in Paekakariki New Zealand >> A great book, and a fine author. I believe the book is still in publication. Now go and read Highland Mutiny for a look at the regiments. I don't remember if it is Peebles or Macay but it is great too. You are right in many parts I wept like a child knowing that parts of the land I had walked on had was where it all happened. As a child we got the stories of the individual families etc, from grand parents. Dave M. PS by the way you are not releated to Bobby Blackburn of Inverness are you?

Hello List. I have just put down John Prebble's "The Highland Clearances" to have a look at my emails before heading off to bed. I could not resist putting in my tu'pence worth to see what the morning brings. John Prebble's book is not for the faint hearted. I for one find that it is enough to make a grown man reach for his handkerchief. There are several references in the book to Glengarry, the place and the family. If you can find a copy as I did in a second hand book shop or where ever, buy it. You and I have no idea of the how the Highlands died! I can not write any more. You will have to read the book. The details of publication are: The Highland Clearances, John Prebble, Martin Secker & Warburg Ltd, London, 14 Carlisle Street, W1V 6NN. Printed 1963 and reprinted '63 '65 '67 '70 '71 '76. Regards Greg Blackburn in Paekakariki New Zealand

Hello All, Whilst ploughing (still) through my late mother's Vast collection of photo-graphs, I came across one that she took in 1963 on a visit to the United States. It is a snap-shot of a monument and, looking at the cypress trees in the back-ground, may have been taken in Florida. The inscription is as follows: To The HIGHLANDERS of SCOTLAND Who Founded NEW INVERNESS in 1736 A.D. ================= Their VALOR Defended The Struggling Colony From ~ The ~ SPANISH ~ INVASION Their Ideals Traditions and Culture ENRICHED The Land of Their Adoption. The capitals are as recorded on the inscription. p.s. No prizes will be awarded for guessing where the settlers came from. Best regards, Iain Rogers, Hong Kong.

Sorry list members I sent this directly to Joe it bounced hence I had to send it here. Hello Joe, Can you please tell he, have you reconsidered holding on to Strath-Nairn and Nairn or are you allowing someone else to put them on their webpage. Joe I really would like to here from you as I missed your message concerning the Inverness webpage and was really disappointed to find it gone completely. How is your family your little one must have really grown by now. Kind Regards, Laraine in NZ

Hi Nan, This URL might help you a bit http://www.rootsweb.com/~sctper/PARISH_NO_INDEX.htm Regards, Irene. At 16:08 9/09/00 +1000, Liz Lewis wrote: >Hi Nan > >There are a couple of good sites for parish location. There is a link >to the Invernesshire parishes from this page >http://www.geocities.com/~brooms/ness/index.html > >I also remember a page called DM Bennetts parish locater, but cant find >the URL. I'll look again and see if I can find it > >Best wishes > >Liz > > > Subject: > > [SCT-INV-L] Parish names and numbers > > Date: > > Thu, 07 Sep 2000 21:09:35 -0700 > > From: > > Nancy Cameron Armstrong <nca-1@home.com> > > To: > > SCT-INVERNESS-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > > Dear friends, > > After spending nearly an hour with at least four different books, as > > many maps, and a couple of microfiche ... I GAVE UP. Please, will > > someone in the know, help me with the names and numbers for the Parish > > (or Parishes) that include Fort William and Letterfinley (Letterfinlay, > > Letter Findley, etc. as it seems to have several different names and > > spellings.) > > > > Are both of them in Kilmonivaig and is that Parish 99, as I was led to > > believe by last book I consulted? Or ... > > > > What about the book that said that Fort William was part of Kilmalie > > Parish and the Parish numbers were 98B and 98B1? Or ... yet another > > book that said that Parish 98 was Inverness?! None of these books > > limited the times the names or numbers applied. > > > > Help! Would like to order some fiche or film, but not until I know more. > > > > Thanks, > > Nan CA You can respond to this email or if you have ICQ my number is 11487672 and my Nick is "Meg". Home/Work Telephone number: (03) 97787317. Researching: Richards in Devon and Cornwall, Meddings in Staffordshire and Salop, Balmain in Scotland, Bowman and Stewart in the Dundee area, Nicolson and MacKinnon in the Isle of Skye, Homewood and Haswell in the London area, Urban in Germany, Bracken in Queens Co., Irl, Walsh in Limerick, Irl and Foley in Tipperary, Irl. Irene Margaret Fullarton (neé Richards). - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hi Everyone, I don't know of this site however, the search engine Google http://www.google.com/ has pages that no longer exist and it does this by keeping a cache copy of the page so if they had "found" this site then maybe you could copy the source of it from their cached copy. Regards, Irene. At 12:10 9/09/00 -0700, Robert Blake Allan wrote: >If you recall, he said copy anything you want, because, I'm taking it off >the net. B >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Bryan Keddy" <bryanfkeddy@ns.sympatico.ca> >To: <SCT-INVERNESS-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2000 10:43 AM >Subject: [SCT-INV-L] Inverness Parish Info.... > > > > Hi Laraine, et al.... > > > > Now last year when Joe Broom stated that he was taking his site offline > > (I still don't understand why he did ?) but anyway I printed all the > > parish pages for my own use....as well as a number of links which he > > had.....I wish that I would have copied them via computer but that's > > hindsite now......anyway if everyone's in agreement I can place these > > pages back on line (however it may take some time) on my Scotland Glens > > website..... > > > > Now as to his Strath-Nairn and Nairn webpages - I could also copy these > > but would need Joe's approval first to put these online if he is > > planning on taking them off that is ???..... > > > > Bryan Keddy > > Halifax, N.S. > > > > Scotland Glens ....http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/bryanfkeddy/Glen1.html > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- >-- > > > > I am sorry to say Joe Broom's Inverness URL no longer exists it has gone > > > > into cyberspace, such a terrible waste of a brilliant site. > > For goodness sake I only hope someone has the ability to download and > > copy his Strath-Nairn and Nairn websites, if I knew how I'd do it > > myself, but I > > haven't a website. > > > > Laraine in NZ > >

Just subscibed to this group and received 18 e-mails when I turned on my computer today so I guess there is an interest in this topic. Does any one know where the Catholic church records for Glen Affric and Glen Cannich, Strathglass are kept or do they even exist. Period in question 1750-1803. Any inscriptions for burial ground at Clachan Comar. Any general information on this area, people and customs would be welcome. Hugh Niven Montreal

In a message dated 11/09/00 3:56:23 PM Central Daylight Time, hdckwth@cc.UManitoba.CA writes: << Anyway, the Fort Augustus part of the register has lots of entries relating to soldiers. Unfortunately for John Ewart born ca. 1815, the Fort Augustus part ends abruptly at July 8 1813, and doesn't resume in the same form again. I scanned all the baptismal entries from the end of 1809 onwards, looking for soldiers. Between Dec 6 1809 and Jul 8 1813 there are 22 baptisms of children whose fathers are said to be soldiers. One is of a private in the 79th Regiment, 3 are of soldiers in "the Artillery" or "the Royal Artillery", and the rest are of the 6th Royal Veterans Battalion (often abbreviated R. V. Batt, or R Vettn Battn, etc.). Most of the last group were privates, but a sergeant and a corporal are also mentioned. >> Were not the Cameron's, one or two at battalion strength, sent over to Egypt during the years above and thus the women, if they did not accompany the men, were sent home to mothers or found digs in or around the area of Inverness? I cannot find the proper book I have been searching for so I cannot write this as fact. Dave

In a message dated 11/09/00 3:50:02 PM Central Daylight Time, nivenh@securenet.net writes: << ust subscibed to this group and received 18 e-mails when I turned on my computer today so I guess there is an interest in this topic. Does any one know where the Catholic church records for Glen Affric and Glen Cannich, Strathglass are kept or do they even exist. Period in question 1750-1803. Any inscriptions for burial ground at Clachan Comar. Any general information on this area, people and customs would be welcome. Hugh Niven Montreal >> Bon Joure Hugh, et bienne venew d'abore, (sp) lovely to see a Montrealer on the NG. Catholic records are often hard to find because the protestants had a great time coming up to heal us heathens and to bring the only true religion to our Roman Population. This was done by burning, saking, and tieing our women to the beach naked and awaiting the crabs and the tide to do them in. Now the church of Rome is not innocent either as they often used the same tactics against the old Celtic churches. Thus some parish records are a bit hard to find. I am not a scholar on this subject but I am sure a member of the group will be more than glad to help out. Dave

Hello I'm new to the list, if anyone on the list has the 1841 or 1851 census, I would really appreciate a look up of David Thomson and his wife Mary Cameron. Mary's father I believe was Duncan Cameron. Inverness Thank You Pat p9.taylor@home.com

In a message dated 11/09/00 10:06:12 AM Central Daylight Time, john.cameron@strait.ednet.ns.ca writes: << And... on another recent topic, I refuse to refer to the true and rightful King as "pretender", regardless of what definition you stick to the word! I am intensely proud of my Highland ancestry and I cherish the ability to communicate with my people, wherever fate has landed them. I haven't contributed much to the list lately, but I always look forward to reading it. >From New Scotland/Alba Nuadh Slainte! John Cameron >> John lad, cool thon Heelund jets. That is the proper title for H.R.H. Prince Michael. I am often in contact with his majesties agents and that is how they properly address the issue. It means he has the right to the throne, (the pretension) . It does not in any way mean he is pretending to have a title. or pretending anything. But I do like your answer. Thu falb hgiulan...(You go lad) For the love of God don't anyone play the pipes for at least an hour. Dave

Debebee wrote: >I have a John EWART born in Fort Augustus barracks abt 1815, his father >William EWART was a Soldier and a weaver. I would like to know which >soldiers would be stationed there at that time. Fort Augustus is in the united parishes of Boleskine & Abertarff, and the earliest Old Parochial Register (ca. 1760-1821) has a separate section for Fort Augustus. This register was regularly kept from 1760 onwards, unlike the part referring to Boleskine itself, where the pre-1797 register was lost at an early date, and any entries prior to that date were apparently reconstructed later. Anyway, the Fort Augustus part of the register has lots of entries relating to soldiers. Unfortunately for John Ewart born ca. 1815, the Fort Augustus part ends abruptly at July 8 1813, and doesn't resume in the same form again. I scanned all the baptismal entries from the end of 1809 onwards, looking for soldiers. Between Dec 6 1809 and Jul 8 1813 there are 22 baptisms of children whose fathers are said to be soldiers. One is of a private in the 79th Regiment, 3 are of soldiers in "the Artillery" or "the Royal Artillery", and the rest are of the 6th Royal Veterans Battalion (often abbreviated R. V. Batt, or R Vettn Battn, etc.). Most of the last group were privates, but a sergeant and a corporal are also mentioned. >From this, I assume that the 6th Royal Veterans Battalion was the unit actually stationed at Fort Augustus till mid-1813 at least. It's possible that the unit was withdrawn from Fort Augustus at that time, but others may know more. There are no Ewarts among the soldiers - or at all, for that matter. There was one soldier of the 6th R. Vettn Battn called John EWEN (the reading is clear), whose wife Ann Campbell had a daughter Margaret, baptized March 25 1812. As far as I can see, there are no baptismal records at all for the parish between mid-1813 and some time in 1819, apart from a few entries for local families, entered after the fact. It would be worthwhile checking the source of the information for John Ewart's birth, and also, if it hasn't been done, checking the IGI for any birth entry of a John Ewart, son of William, in case the father was actually stationed elsewhere, e.g. Fort George (parish of Ardiseir - its register is in better shape than Boleskine & Abertarff). Harry Duckworth

Just to throw in my two cents worth - I joined this list for genealogical information - but I have found it to be a wonderful source of cultural information, great stories, and I have made some great friends through it. I appreciate all the postings, commentaries etc., and the time and effort people make to contribute. I have a better understanding now of what it means to be a highlander - and that is very important to me. And... on another recent topic, I refuse to refer to the true and rightful King as "pretender", regardless of what definition you stick to the word! I am intensely proud of my Highland ancestry and I cherish the ability to communicate with my people, wherever fate has landed them. I haven't contributed much to the list lately, but I always look forward to reading it. >From New Scotland/Alba Nuadh Slainte! John Cameron

How would you like to find this guy in your family tree? ? ? Two men met recently and struck up a conversation. One was telling the other about some problems he was having with one of his kids. After a while the other guy said, "You think you have family problems? Get a load of my situation. A few years ago I met a young widow with a grown-up daughter and we got married. Later, my father married my stepdaughter. That made my stepdaughter my stepmother and my father became my stepson. "Also, my wife became mother-in-law of her father-in-law. Then the daughter of my wife, my stepmother, had a son. This boy was my half-brother because he was my father's son, but he was also the son of my wife's daughter, which made him my wife's grandson. That made me grandfather of my half-brother. "This was nothing until my wife and I had a son. Now the sister of my son, my mother-in-law, is also the grandmother. This makes my father the brother-in-law of my child, whose stepsister is my father's wife. "I am my stepmother's brother-in-law, my wife is her own child's aunt, my son is my father's nephew and I am my own grandfather. Sheesh! You think you have family problems." !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am trying to trace my great grandfather James Fredrick McDonald Born Inverness, 1829 Approx. He was married to a Mary Ann Glover, in Hokitika, New Zealand 1867. His date on his marriage and death certificates do not add up, so he may have been born anytime between 1829 and 1836. Parents are unknown. If this rings a bell with anyone, please get back to me. Janet McDonald

----- Original Message ----- From: <SCT-INVERNESS-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <SCT-INVERNESS-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 6:00 PM Subject: SCT-INVERNESS-D Digest V00 #266

And no doubt if they hadnt any kith or kin in the village when they came, 9 months later there were plenty . !! ;-) Liz, Northern Ontario.

I have the Clan Ranald book of Knoydart and Glengarry if it helps in your research (Norman H MacDonald FSA Scot) At 09:45 AM 9/10/00 +1000, David McDonald wrote: >I read a little bit of history on the net that stated that the last of >the Glengarry MacDonnell's was Colonel Alexander Ranaldson MacDonnell >who married Rebecca, second daughter of Sir William Forbes of Pitsligo >in 1822. The Colonel had encumbered his estate to such an extent that >when he died during a shipping accident in January 1828, his son >(unanmed) had to sell the estate to the Marquis of Huntly and then he & >his family migrated to Australia. >I assume that this would have been in the late 1820's or early 1830's. >Are there any experts out there that would know the name of the >Colonel's son and when / where he immigrated to in Australia. >If all this is true, it would suggest that the Glengarry MacDonnell line >now resides in Australia. >David >Port Fairy