In a message dated 13/09/00 5:48:50 PM Central Daylight Time, family@norpex.demon.co.uk writes: << Hi, I am new to the list and am trying to locate a book by DONALD GILCHRIST called CASTLE COMMANDO. It was about the training camp at Spean Bridge for the Commandos in the second world war. It is now out of print but if anyone knows where I can buy a copy I would be very grateful if you could let me know. Many Thanks, Penny Mansfield. have you tried the regimental museum? They also trained at Invergordon which was a major dispatch point for their opperations. Dave. <A HREF="http://www.du.edu/~tomills/military/uk/bargxref.htm">British Army Index of Regimental Web Sites</A> <A HREF="http://regiments.org/milhist/uk/uk.htm#pro">United Kingdom (British Empire & Commonwealth Land Forces)</A> <A HREF="http://www-saw.arts.ed.ac.uk/">The Scots at War Title Page</A> <A HREF="http://regiments.org/milhist/">Land Forces of Britain, the Empire and Commonwealth</A> <A HREF="http://regiments.org/milhist/uk/bargxref.htm">list of regimental web sites</A>

Bryan, thanks for doing this it would have been a huge loss if this were gone. Peter At 03:40 PM 9/13/00 -0300, you wrote: >Hi all, > >Well I'm ahead of schedule with putting the parish information online >and would like to thank Laraine Dyer publicly for helping me type some >of the descriptions..... > >The information is the same as what Joe Broom previously had posted on >his SCT-Inverness site....although there may be some typo's - which with >your assistance can be easily corrected.....as well I would like to add >area photo's and other pertinent information to these pages in time.... > >You can view this parish information at >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ked1/invparish.html >which is directly linked to my Scotland Glens website.... > >Now another point of current interest has been Joe Brooms webpages on >Nairn-shire and Strath-shire.....well I've copied these and when he does >remove them - I'll be ready to add them back online (although in a >somewhat different layout format).....and have asked Laraine to host >this website as I really don't have a personal interest or have done any >research in this area....and would still like Joe's approval first ???? > >That's about all for now - hope you enjoy having this information back >online.... > >Bryan Keddy >Halifax, N.S. > >Scotland Glens - http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/bryanfkeddy/Glen1.html >---------------------------------------------------------------------------

> is it possible that the christenings of Malcolm and his sister Janet > and the marriage of their parents could have taken place in Fort > William but been recorded in Inverness, Inverness (which is what the > IGI says)? ----------------------------------- Hi Nan, Yes, though from the IGI it looks as though for the marriage those were the only Bans published. You would have to read what it says on the Innverness, Inverness Parish Record film # 0990668 to find out. Ah, too late now, as it looks as if you are just sending for separate pages but eventually you will no doubt read some films. You will see on some films that christenings which took place, not in the families home parish, were recorded later by the Session Clerk at the request of the parents, especially when they moved back to Scotland after being away somewhere, the children are of different ages but all were recorded on one years page. In the case of fairly close (distance) parishes it is annoying when they did that..... but the Inverness Parish marriage may say Groom....of this parish Bride.... of another parish and then you go backwards from there. regards, Maureen Kuzyk.

Searching for descendants of Elizabeth Brodie MacDonald, b. 1821; George Gordon MacDonald, b. 1823;John MacDonald, b.c. 1827 and Angus MacDonald, b.c.1835 all at Big-glan, Glenmore, Abernethy Parish. Their parents were John MacDonald, b.c. 1790 in Laggan Parish and Isabella Stewart, b.c. 1795 at Lynaberack, Glen Tromie, Kingussie Parish. Isabella's parents were Donald Stewart and Ann Cameron. Donald Stewart's ancestors had come from Bohespic in Perthshire and several families of these Stewarts were small farmers at Lynaberack in the late 18th century. Would be delighted to hear from anyone connected to these families. Mary Mackenzie, Newtonmore in the lovely Central Highlands of Scotland. Also interested in MACKENZIE, MACARTHUR, CAMPBELL, CAMERON, BEATON in the Roy Bridge area of Kilmonivaig Parish.

Good going, Bryan. Don't I remember that some of the LDS microfilm reels are mislabeled so that some Skye records (for example) are found on supposedly Lewis reels? It would obviously be good to supply additional info like this if some of the wonderfully knowledgeable folks on this list have it. > > Well I'm ahead of schedule with putting the parish information online > and would like to thank Laraine Dyer publicly for helping me type some > of the descriptions..... > > The information is the same as what Joe Broom previously had posted on > his SCT-Inverness site....although there may be some typo's - which with > your assistance can be easily corrected.....as well I would like to add > area photo's and other pertinent information to these pages in time.... > > You can view this parish information at > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ked1/invparish.html > which is directly linked to my Scotland Glens website.... > > Now another point of current interest has been Joe Brooms webpages on > Nairn-shire and Strath-shire.....well I've copied these and when he does > remove them - I'll be ready to add them back online (although in a > somewhat different layout format).....and have asked Laraine to host > this website as I really don't have a personal interest or have done any > research in this area....and would still like Joe's approval first ???? > > That's about all for now - hope you enjoy having this information back > online.... > > Bryan Keddy > Halifax, N.S. > > Scotland Glens - http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/bryanfkeddy/Glen1.html

Hi all, Well I'm ahead of schedule with putting the parish information online and would like to thank Laraine Dyer publicly for helping me type some of the descriptions..... The information is the same as what Joe Broom previously had posted on his SCT-Inverness site....although there may be some typo's - which with your assistance can be easily corrected.....as well I would like to add area photo's and other pertinent information to these pages in time.... You can view this parish information at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ked1/invparish.html which is directly linked to my Scotland Glens website.... Now another point of current interest has been Joe Brooms webpages on Nairn-shire and Strath-shire.....well I've copied these and when he does remove them - I'll be ready to add them back online (although in a somewhat different layout format).....and have asked Laraine to host this website as I really don't have a personal interest or have done any research in this area....and would still like Joe's approval first ???? That's about all for now - hope you enjoy having this information back online.... Bryan Keddy Halifax, N.S. Scotland Glens - http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/bryanfkeddy/Glen1.html - -------------------------------------------------------------------------

Dear friends, Thanks to Harry and John and Bryan I am a little closer to understanding Fort William, Letterfinlay and my CAMERONS and MARSHALLS ... but, let me see if I am correct in my "understanding." As the documents I sent for have NO indication of where any of the activities took place ... is it possible that the christenings of Malcolm and his sister Janet and the marriage of their parents could have taken place in Fort William but been recorded in Inverness, Inverness (which is what the IGI says)? Malcolm CAMERON Sex: M Event(s): Christening: 4 Dec 1819 Inverness, Inverness, Scotland Parents: Father: Charles CAMERON Mother: Marjory DAVIDSON Thanks again to all who have been so helpful, Nan

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Hi Nan, With respect to your recent posting regarding parish's, the following may be helpful. Fort William lies within the Parish of Kilmallie - although it is considered a distinct place of worship, since a "Quoad Sacra" (please note - I have no idea what that means!) church was erected there. Letterfinlay is within the parish of Kilmonivaig. Kilmonivaig is 60 miles long by 25 miles broad, and is made up of a number of winding glens, and rapid rivers, all of which discharge into the River Lochy. One of the problems you will find in doing searches is the fact that the Parish boundaries changed from time to time, for political, religious, or even geographical reasons. I am confident that Letterfinlay was always in Kilmonivaig (as far as I know). Good Luck! John

Is anyone on this list researching on the Isle of Eigg? Dave MacLeod Skyedam@aol.com

John Cameron said: >Fort William lies within the Parish of Kilmallie - although it is considered a >distinct place of worship, since a "Quoad Sacra" (please note - I have no idea >what that means!) church was erected there. "Quoad sacra" literally means "for sacred purposes". Here's a paragraph from the LDS Church's Family Search web site. The page is at the URL: http://www.familysearch.org/sg/Scotland.html: "Each local parish (pairish, parochin) keeps records. Quoad sacra parishes are those set up for ecclesiastical purposes to take care of those people who could not conveniently attend the parish church. To find records of people living in quoad sacra parishes, you must search the surrounding parishes." Sometimes, in the OPRs, a particular farm or property, geographically within one parish, is described as belonging to another "quoad sacra". In light of the above, I presume that this was because it was easier for the residents at that place to attend the church in the next parish, rather than their own. I believe that the expression is found only in Scotland. The equivalent idea in England is expressed, I think, by the phrase "Chapel of Ease" - in a big parish, a second chapel, without parochial rights, would be established to serve a large population far distant from the parish church. Harry Duckworth

The Highlands and the rest of the U.K. are rising again along with our English Brothers and sisters but the English government seem to be as daft as ever and will not reduce taxes on fuel. Dave Reports of traffic chaos in Inverness caused by tractors/lorries. There is ample petrol currently available at Skiach Services A9 Evanton/Alness, Ross-shire (01349) 830182 What is the position in your area? Robert

In a message dated 13/09/00 12:10:18 AM Central Daylight Time, peter_mcdonald@sftw.com writes: << I have just bought a book Called "Highland Songs of the '45".. by John Lorne Campbell (1933). It is written in Gaelic with the English translation (with acknowledged mistakes) on the opposite side. The preface says it represents only a small portion of the large amount of Gaelic political poetry between the years of 1640-1750. Alexander Macdonald was the principal Highland Jacobite poet......... >> A great book, or many books of Gaelic poetry are the works of Sorly MacLean who translated his own poems to the English and thus you get the proper feel of what the poet wanted to say. He was one of the founders of the University on Skye. Dave

I would like to hear from anyone researching these families who lived in Nairn, Auldearn, and Delnies in the late 1700's onwards. Also, has anyone heard of a town/place in Scotland named Norrie? Excuse the ignorance of this wee lass from downunder!! Thanks in advance Carolynn Gracie, Queensland, Australia (the Olympic Soccer starts here in an hours time)

In a message dated 12/09/00 11:07:54 PM Central Daylight Time, fivecats@onlink.net writes: << My mother wonders if any of you Inverness-ites can remember any of my late father's friends. Dad spent his summers at Smithton, his mother taking him and his sister up there to stay as his dad was off at sea, and she came from Smithton. Three names in particular, The brother's ROSE who had a garage somewhere at the (old time) junction going into Inverness by Craigmore Could that be Raigmore Hospital and the old BP station on the old Perth Rd. junction. Hospital, and a person who was alive and still living in Smithton 10 years ago, Johnny Mann. He lived in a small cottage which backed onto the new houses in Smithton, and during 1956/7/8 had a tame pet owl that he'd rescued from the woods and brought up. Got photo's of my brother with the owl. Actually I did not know the man but I can remember seeing a fellow with an owl on his shoulder walking near Thistle park. Also a young but with a fox for a pet, up near Union Rd. where my aunt lived. I believe that the Rose family may well be cousins of some degree, havent been able to prove it yet, but GGGF's 2nd wife was an ANNE ROSE by birth. Liz, Northern Ontario. >> Small world Eh. Dave Did one of the lassies not go to the University and become a teacher at the Crown School? She used to knock about with Gordon Kennedy from up by Crown Dr. He was a teacher also.

In a message dated 12/09/00 10:13:39 PM Central Daylight Time, john.cameron@strait.ednet.ns.ca writes: << Da thaobh Loch Ial's da thaobh Lochaidh - Lochail, Lochail John >> A great story John. Since you mentioned the MacMartin here is a story, the second one on the page, about Private John MacMartin of I believe the Bradlebane Dencibles during the Highland Mutint. <A HREF="http://www.hometown.aol.com/radioscotland/stories.html">RSI STORIES AND PICTURES</A> http://www.hometown.aol.com/radioscotland/stories.html This stiry has often been releated as two English Knights, but it was infact a private Highland private soldier. dave

I have just bought a book Called "Highland Songs of the '45".. by John Lorne Campbell (1933). It is written in Gaelic with the English translation (with acknowledged mistakes) on the opposite side. The preface says it represents only a small portion of the large amount of Gaelic political poetry between the years of 1640-1750. Alexander Macdonald was the principal Highland Jacobite poet......... At 11:43 PM 9/12/00 -0300, john.cameron@strait.ednet.ns.ca wrote: >Dave, > >Thank you for setting me straight. I have always appreciated your commentary, >and I've developed a great respect from reading your postings. I took your >advice and didn't listen to the bagpipes for a while, but I did sing "Johnnie >Cope" under my breath (Fie, now Johnnie, get up and run! The Highland >bagpipes >mak' a din! It's better tae sleep in a hale skin, For it will be a bluidy >mornin'!). I am sitting writing this listening to a Scottish/Cape Breton >fiddle >tune (played by J.P. Cormier) - the fiddle gets my blood going almost like the >'pipes. It is something - the effect the music has on us. > >I have enjoyed your stories so much - so I thought I'd forward a couple of my >favourites - as told by Somerled MacMillan in "Bygone Lochaber" > >A toil-stained wayfarer, who had more than once been denied food and shelter, >made a final appeal to the MacMartin-Camerons of Mucomir. After continued >heavy >knocking, he at last attracted the attention of one of the inmates, who, on >opening the window, demanded to know the reason for the disturbance. "If >there >be a Christian in the house," replied the stranger, "then, surely he will >let me >rest a while within." The occupant, somewhat taken aback by the request, at >length, answered him thus: "There are no Christians here; we are all >Camerons!" > >The Dochanassie Camerons, also of MacMartin stock , used to carry in their >possession a multi-knobbed cudgel, known locally as "the Dochanassie stick", >which was not unlike the Irish shillelagh. > >A story is told of a rabble, not uncommon at funerals in olden times, which >broke out in a certain house where a number of Dochanassie Camerons met. >Tempers became heated over the 'uisge-beatha' (whiskey) and blows were freely >exchanged. An old man in the company, while noticing some of his friends fail >to use the Dochanassie stick to full advantage, owing to the lowness of the >roof, shouted to them excitedly "Feuchaibh air an fhiaradh iad !" (Try them >sideways!) > >Thanks again Dave - I'll never lose my strong feelings about Culloden and the >'45, or the Clearances -- as with the music, I think it is part of my genetic >makeup. As we respect and remember those that fought for us in the past >century, >we shouldn't forget those who went before them. (My own grandafther, Russell >Cameron, wore the Kilt in Battle in WW1, as part of the 85th Battalion - Nova >Scotia Highlanders) . I wear a Kilt proudly - to honour my ancestors, and to >proudly announce that I am a Scot, and a Highlander - although a couple >generations removed from our ancestral home. > >And when it is hot, I sometimes also wear it with a t-shirt, no sense being >uncomfortable! > >Da thaobh Loch Ial's da thaobh Lochaidh - Lochail, Lochail > >John >

My mother wonders if any of you Inverness-ites can remember any of my late father's friends. Dad spent his summers at Smithton, his mother taking him and his sister up there to stay as his dad was off at sea, and she came from Smithton. Three names in particular, The brother's ROSE who had a garage somewhere at the (old time) junction going into Inverness by Craigmore Hospital, and a person who was alive and still living in Smithton 10 years ago, Johnny Mann. He lived in a small cottage which backed onto the new houses in Smithton, and during 1956/7/8 had a tame pet owl that he'd rescued from the woods and brought up. Got photo's of my brother with the owl. I believe that the Rose family may well be cousins of some degree, havent been able to prove it yet, but GGGF's 2nd wife was an ANNE ROSE by birth. Liz, Northern Ontario.

Dave, Thank you for setting me straight. I have always appreciated your commentary, and I've developed a great respect from reading your postings. I took your advice and didn't listen to the bagpipes for a while, but I did sing "Johnnie Cope" under my breath (Fie, now Johnnie, get up and run! The Highland bagpipes mak' a din! It's better tae sleep in a hale skin, For it will be a bluidy mornin'!). I am sitting writing this listening to a Scottish/Cape Breton fiddle tune (played by J.P. Cormier) - the fiddle gets my blood going almost like the 'pipes. It is something - the effect the music has on us. I have enjoyed your stories so much - so I thought I'd forward a couple of my favourites - as told by Somerled MacMillan in "Bygone Lochaber" A toil-stained wayfarer, who had more than once been denied food and shelter, made a final appeal to the MacMartin-Camerons of Mucomir. After continued heavy knocking, he at last attracted the attention of one of the inmates, who, on opening the window, demanded to know the reason for the disturbance. "If there be a Christian in the house," replied the stranger, "then, surely he will let me rest a while within." The occupant, somewhat taken aback by the request, at length, answered him thus: "There are no Christians here; we are all Camerons!" The Dochanassie Camerons, also of MacMartin stock , used to carry in their possession a multi-knobbed cudgel, known locally as "the Dochanassie stick", which was not unlike the Irish shillelagh. A story is told of a rabble, not uncommon at funerals in olden times, which broke out in a certain house where a number of Dochanassie Camerons met. Tempers became heated over the 'uisge-beatha' (whiskey) and blows were freely exchanged. An old man in the company, while noticing some of his friends fail to use the Dochanassie stick to full advantage, owing to the lowness of the roof, shouted to them excitedly "Feuchaibh air an fhiaradh iad !" (Try them sideways!) Thanks again Dave - I'll never lose my strong feelings about Culloden and the '45, or the Clearances -- as with the music, I think it is part of my genetic makeup. As we respect and remember those that fought for us in the past century, we shouldn't forget those who went before them. (My own grandafther, Russell Cameron, wore the Kilt in Battle in WW1, as part of the 85th Battalion - Nova Scotia Highlanders) . I wear a Kilt proudly - to honour my ancestors, and to proudly announce that I am a Scot, and a Highlander - although a couple generations removed from our ancestral home. And when it is hot, I sometimes also wear it with a t-shirt, no sense being uncomfortable! Da thaobh Loch Ial's da thaobh Lochaidh - Lochail, Lochail John

Is anyone on this mailing list researching Chisholms of Strathglass. Hugh Niven