Hello Everyone: (I am trying to urge everyone to keep on posting regularly as you gather more information while you do you personal research. If you post the updated research it may snag a bite. People come and go on the list..) Being as I saw this remark on the list, I thought I would up-date with what I have found to date. John Arbuckle went to North Uist in 1764 and had 1 son William. Rev. William married Flora MacLeod (daughter of Dr Murdoch MacLeod and Mary MacLean) on Aug.18,1797. William died in 1818 & Flora died in 1852. First born child of Rev. William & Flora Arbuckle John b.1798 - married Margaret Steven about 1822 and had a daughter (name may be Jessy/Jessey) about 1823 then a son William about 1825. William was a teacher in Barra and married Effy McGiggan in Sept.1887. William died in Dec.1887. Effy was from South Uist. John went to Prince Edward Island, Canada about 1827 as tutor to the sons of Dr.Angus MacAulay. He then had a daughter with Flora MacAulay in 1833. Flora MacAulay died abt 1834 and Margaret (Steven) Arbuckle died in 1842. In 1843 John married Ann Stewart of PEI and they had one son John Murdoch MacLeod Arbuckle. John M.M. married Clara Catherine Gillan. John (Sr) died in 1871 in PEI. There were 8 other children for William & Flora which I have info on also. I would like to hear from anyone researching the name STEVEN or Dr Murdoch MacLEOD or Mary MacLEAN families. Thank You Lorraine Ottawa, Canada

I would like to thank publicly the folk who have taken the time to correspond and advise me about Sailors & Crofters of Skye & the highlands. I am having difficulty trying to locate my McLEAN/NICOLSON ancestors earlier than 1855 and have been trying to think laterally.<grin> However, if anyone has seen a marriage to either Neil McLEAN & Rachel NICOLSON supposedly at Kilmuir 1841 I would LOVE to hear from you also looking for a birth of Neil M(a)cLEAN at Strath about 1818. Rachel born Stenscholl abt 1819. There are 4 children to Neil & Rachel I have no information. So much information on an 1855 certificate but proving it is another obstacle!! Best wishes Rachel Alliston Cardiff...Hunter Valley...Australia > Hello Mike, > You wrote: > > ----- Original Message <snip> > > Where would the earliest church records be archived for the Strath area > > of Skye? > > > The surviving Old Parochial Records for the Parish of Strath have been > transcribed/filmed by the LDS and will appear on the IGI. > > The years covered are as follows: > Births/Baptisms: 1820~1854. > Marriages: 1823~1854. > Deaths: Nil. > > For the adjacent Parish of Sleat, the years covered are: > Births/Baptisms: 1813~1853. > Marriages: 1813~1817. > 1820~1852. > Deaths: Nil. > > My Strath interests are: GRANT, McINNES, McKINNON and STEWART. > Hope this helps. > > Best regards, > Iain Rogers, Hong Kong > > > > > > > >

Hello Mike, You wrote: ----- Original Message <snip> > Where would the earliest church records be archived for the Strath area > of Skye? > The surviving Old Parochial Records for the Parish of Strath have been transcribed/filmed by the LDS and will appear on the IGI. The years covered are as follows: Births/Baptisms: 1820~1854. Marriages: 1823~1854. Deaths: Nil. For the adjacent Parish of Sleat, the years covered are: Births/Baptisms: 1813~1853. Marriages: 1813~1817. 1820~1852. Deaths: Nil. My Strath interests are: GRANT, McINNES, McKINNON and STEWART. Hope this helps. Best regards, Iain Rogers, Hong Kong

The surest place to find parish church records is the National Archives of Scotland in Edinburgh. Even though the records for some parishes have been sent to local archives, microfilm copies can be kept in Edinburgh. If you are planning to visit the NAS, be sure to tell the staff well in advance, because records are kept at three sites, only two of which are open to the public. The staff will arrange for the records you require to be at one of the two public offices. There is a lot of preservation of wills and testaments being undertaken at the moment, as part of the Scottish Archive Network project. At any one time, some of the records will have been withdrawn for preservation and photographic digitising. If you are interested in the Scottish Archive Network project, they publish a weekly newsletter on the web at http://www.scan.org.uk/News_Roundup This will continue to be published until the end of November, when their new website goes on-line. Regards, Iain McKenzie ---------- > From: esi@geotec.net > To: SCT-INVERNESS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SCT-INV-L] Earliest Strath Church Records > Date: 20 October 2000 02:05 > > Dear Dave, > > Where would the earliest church records be archived for the Strath area > of Skye? > > Thank You. > > Best Regards, > > > Mike >

Data transcribed for some generations indicates a birth place or christening locaiton "Kilwinnock" for several children born to Alexander and Jean Leslie while they were resident in Beauley, ??at or in ?? a corf house.... they were salmon fishers?? Possibly living abord their own boat?? An associated name KILMORACH seems to have survived the transcriptions, but another child's birth was associated with CONAN PARISH .... Strathpeffer which parish I have yet to locate. Seemingly the famiy was en route to Isle of Lewis, in this period. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

In a message dated 19/10/00 8:05:53 PM Central Daylight Time, esi@geotec.net writes: << Dear Dave, Where would the earliest church records be archived for the Strath area of Skye? Thank You. Best Regards, Mike >> I am so sorry I have no idea but I am sure if you put your question on the list someone will know the answer, or find it for you. Sorry Dave

In a message dated 19/10/00 2:51:55 PM Central Daylight Time, lyfrah@goldweb.com.au writes: << But Dave, I seem to recall reading about TWO parish churches in Portree. Wasn't there some sort of to do before the bridge was built? I seem to remember reading somewhere that the minister of one church objected strongly to the ferry arriving on a Sunday while the minister of the other church was not so bothered. There was a lot of high drama at the time. So... which of the two churches should Lorraine write to? Lyndall Canberra >> "A lot of high drama" hahaha you sound like you have a good bit of heather under those toes of yours. To which ever church she has the name of. Again I would emphasize it as a LAST RESORT when all else or other avenues have failed. Cheers Dave You made ma day.

Dear Dave, Where would the earliest church records be archived for the Strath area of Skye? Thank You. Best Regards, Mike

Hi Iain, Thank you for that, my tree is finally getting some leaves with all your wonderful snippets of information. Regards Andrea

Hi All, Just reposting my interests in my McAulay and McFarlane families. I am researching my gg grandmothers family. Her details are as follows: MARY MCAULAY born 1803 Isle of Skye. Parents JOHN MCAULAY and ANN MCLEAN . Mary married MALCOLM MCFARLANE 1823 Isle of Skye. Mary died 1884 Lawrence, NSW In 1852 Mary and her six children left Skye on the "Ontario" and came to Australia. Malcolm had died prior to them leaving but I have been unable to locate his death details. Mary's brother Neil and his family were also on the "Ontario" with her. Marys other siblings namely Alexander, Donald, John and Catherine all came out to Australia in 1837. Other surnames connected to this family are: MCKAY, MCLEOD, MCRAE, MCDONALD. Any information about the above would be greatly received. Regards, Judy. - ------------------------------- Powered by http://www.telstra.com

Hello Everyone: I do want to "Thank" everyone for their help. I am going to try the one on Somerled and see what happens. Your help has been great. Take Care Lorraine Ottawa, Canada

But Dave, I seem to recall reading about TWO parish churches in Portree. Wasn't there some sort of to do before the bridge was built? I seem to remember reading somewhere that the minister of one church objected strongly to the ferry arriving on a Sunday while the minister of the other church was not so bothered. There was a lot of high drama at the time. So... which of the two churches should Lorraine write to? Lyndall Canberra > AS A LAST RESORT, simply sending a letter to the > address you want even if incomplete, in this case, name of church, Portree, > Isle Of Skye, has a darn good chance of reaching it's destination.

---------------------- Forwarded by John Cameron/SB-Strait on 10/19/2000 04:46 PM --------------------------- John Cameron 10/19/2000 01:18 PM To: Nancy Cameron Armstrong <nca-1@home.com> cc: Subject: Re: Marshalls in "Letterfinlay" (Document link: John Cameron) Hello Nan, I am envious of your trip to Salt Lake City. I would love to be able to spend some time at their Library. I haven't come across Flora Cameron yet, but she is undoubtedly related to me, as that is where my family comes from. As I understand the place names from the Highlands, every little cluster of a few familes had its own name. They usually were all related (descended from a common ancestor) and farmed communally (the "runrig" system). "Rathchinore" is undoubtedly "Rath thulach mor" or Ratullochmore - Every time I come across it I find a different spelling. Rathchinore is very close to the spelling that was used for that place in the 1841 Census (on-line on Bryan Keddy's website) - it was spelled differently again in the 1861 census. Ratullochmore (however it is spelled) was located near Glenfintaig, which was in, or near, Glen Gloy, which flows into Loch Lochy, just east of Spean Bridge. It is adjacent to Letterfinlay. The first family settled there was that of Donald (MacMartin) Cameron, a son of Duncan, Chieftan of the MacMartin Clan. (The MacMartins all, in time, changed their name to Cameron). His descendants were living there until they were evicted by Andrew Belford, after he purchased the Glenfintaig Estate. That was around 1850 - My GGGrandfather Angus Cameron, left there and came to Nova Scotia. Family tradition had it that we came from "Ratlick Moor", which we always assumed referred to a "Moor" or Barren area. Actually it was "Mor", the gaelic word for big, or large. The name, in Gaelic, (Rath thulach mor ) means "large hill mound". As far as which Fort James Marshall was stationed at - I would guess Fort William would be the most likely, as I believe the Lochaber area came under their jurisdiction - but Fort Augustus is not all that far off. Ratullochmore would be about 1/3 of the way from Fort William to Fort Augustus. My GGGGrandfather (Angus 'Mor' Cameron) was born around 1890 (My info is home, and I am writing from my office) - Flora could well be a sister or cousin of his. Congratulations on your findings, and Good Luck! John

This and the previous message on the same subject arrived with a huge list of addresses of people to whom the same message was sent. Please, for the sake of those who have to be careful of the size of their downloads, could all the superfluous information be cut before messages are posted to the list? Thanks in anticipation, Lyndall ----- Original Message ----- From: "Irene M. Fullarton" <richards@iaa.com.au> > Hi Rosanne, > > The last family of Alexander etc. Is that Sandy McInnes and Marian > McInnes? Id so I have a bit on them. > > Regards, > > Irene. > > At 22:15 18/10/00 -0700, Peter J. McDonald wrote: > >Here is number one... > >>Good idea, here's a "kickoff"- all Isle of Skye - > >> > >>Looking for any information re: > >> > >>-John McInnes and Isabella Anderson, had children in Strath in early 1800s <SNIP>

Irene, could you publish what you have? Your relations came out on the "Priscilla" to Victoria, Australia. I am trying to urge everyone to keep on posting regularly as you gather more information while you do you personal research. If you post the updated research it may snag a bite. People come and go on the list.. Peter in CA At 04:56 PM 10/19/00 +1000, you wrote: >Hi Rosanne, > >The last family of Alexander etc. Is that Sandy McInnes and Marian >McInnes? Id so I have a bit on them. > >Regards, > >Irene. > >At 22:15 18/10/00 -0700, Peter J. McDonald wrote: >>Here is number one... >>>Good idea, here's a "kickoff"- all Isle of Skye - >>> >>>Looking for any information re: >>> >>>-John McInnes and Isabella Anderson, had children in Strath in early 1800s >>>-Gillanders McInnes and Flora McInnes (possibly Matheson)- Duidalemore, >>>Sleat - children born c. 1814-1830, one named Jonathan married Catherine >>>Grant >>> >>>One family or the other had a son Alexander McInnes [Alexander >>>McInnes/Margaret McRae family on the Hercules, HIES] >>> >>>- Roderick McInnes and Catherine McInnes, m. Boreraig Strath 1835 [none of >>>family known to have emigrated with HIES] >>> >>>- Duncan Buchanan and Jessie McNiece, probably Strath, children born c. >>>1810 >>>- Donald McCrimmon & Jane Matheson, probably Breakish, Strath, children >>>born c. 1810 >>> >>>These two families were the parents of AlexMcCrimmon and his wife Christina >>>Buchanan who set off on the Hercules and ended up on the Bankers daughter. >>> >>>Alex had a son John [by an earlier relationship, with Anne McMillan] who >>>travelled with a Boreraig family, the family of Anne McKinnon, first on the >>>Hercules and later on the Caroline. >>> >>>Also interested in any Skye info. re Hercules family Alexander McInnes of >>>Heast. >>> >>>Regards, >>>Rosanne >>> >>>At 11:08 AM 10/18/2000 -0700, you wrote: >>> >Beryl, >>> >Ask Bill myself and the group. ` If everyone posted their ships and family >>> >interest I am sure we can find some more information >>> >Peter >>> > >>> >At 05:34 PM 10/18/00 +1000, Beryl O'Gorman wrote: >>> >>Hi Peter >>> >>Thanks for all your work - and Bill. >>> >>So we ask Bill on this group? >>> >> >>> >>Beryl O'Gorman >>> >>Greensborough Victoria Australia >>> >> >>> >>What's your story? >>> >>Wordweavers >>> >>Weaving your memories >>> >>Weaving your stories >>> >>http://www.wordweavers.net >>> >>----- Original Message ----- >>> >>From: "Peter J. McDonald" <peter_mcdonald@sftw.com> >>> >>To: <clowey@bigpond.com>; <clarke_bicheno@hotmail.com> >>> >>Cc: <hughson@pipeline.com.au>; <jtracey@heritagearchaeology.com.au>; >>> >><rosmci@eisa.net.au>; <ajmcdonald1@telstra.easymail.com.au>; >>> >><bjordan@pipeline.com.au>; <chitty@mns.net.au>; <camo@standard.net.au>; >>> >><emla53@mcmedia.com.au>; <seamus@dove.net.au>; <pricew@clear.net.nz>; >>> >><patsym3@ibm.net>; <plryan@bigpond.com>; <glenys@highway1.com.au>; >>> >><noelenemcdonnell@bigpond.com>; <families@netcomuk.co.uk>; >>> >><bryanfkeddy@ns.sympatico.ca>; <camo@standard.net.au>; >>> <chitty@mns.net.au>; >>> >><garden@eisa.net.au>; <wordweav@bigpond.net.au>; <minginsr@cqnet.com.au>; >>> >><loremck@jc.com.au>; <animal@nor.com.au>; <tduggin@camtech.net.au>; >>> >><loremck@jc.com.au>; <cmcs@ozemail.com.au>; <grantos@ozemail.com.au>; >>> >><jrog@telstra.com>; <richards@iaa.com.au>; <wordweav@eisa.net.au>; >>> >><dashjk@ozemail.com.au> >>> >>Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 1:01 PM >>> >>Subject: Araminta, Georgiana, Hercules and Persian >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> > Vicki, Bill and everyone else, >>> >> > >>> >> > Bill Clarke has kindly offered to share his boatloads of >>> information on >>> >>the >>> >> > above ships: To quote Bill: >>> >> > "When you come across people interested in the Araminta, Georgiana, >>> >> > Hercules and Persian, you should tell them to contact me as over the >>>years >>> >> > I have put together about 300 names of people whose ancestors came on >>> >>these >>> >> > ships. I have also some others on the other HIES ships"!!! >>> >> > >>> >> > http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/bryanfkeddy/HIES1.html >>> >> > Bill also said: >>> >> >>> > >>> > >

John, Have you found out why they changed their names? You are the third person on the list I have found this funny little quirk of "Name Changing". Did you try the 1841 Census to get more information? Peter, "they changed from M'Isaack to McDonald in 1852" At 02:43 AM 10/19/00 -0400, you wrote: >Murdo MacOdrum b abt 1700 North Uist, moved to Scorrain, Waternish, changed >his name to MacDonald, m Mary...,had five daughters, Isabella b 1826, Marion >b 1835 and Mary b 1837 m Alexander MacLeod in 1866. They had William >b abt 1870 and Mary b abt 1871. >Shows up in the 1851 and ' 61 census I hear. > >Would appreciate any info on this family--doing the MacCodrum Family Tree. Was it MacOdrum also? >Thank you John Stinson

Which particular church? There's 4 I can think of offhand in Portree. If you specify which one I should be able to help. ----- Original Message ----- From: espencer <espencer@magma.ca> To: <SCT-INVERNESS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 8:52 PM Subject: [SCT-INV-L] Church Address > Hello Everyone: > > Would there be anyone on the list, from Isle of Skye, that could get me > the address of the Parish Church in Portree. An email address would > be even better but a snail mail one will do. > Any help would be appreciated. Many Thanks Lorraine Ottawa, Canada > > ______________________________

Has anyone tried the facilities at http://www.ros.gov.uk >From what I can glean, it is an internet searchable database of land registration etc., but the fees seem quite expensive. Anyone any opinions ?? Regards Alan Mackenzie

Have trouble deciphering writing with a Kilmonivaig birth record ... in 1790 was there such a place as Rathchinore? Flora CAMERON was born there in 1790 and married John MARSHALL in 1812 in Letterfinlay. Perhaps Rathchinore was near Letterfinlay? At SLC FHL could not locate anything even similar in early and current maps and late 19th century gazetteers. Thanks for any suggestions. Nan

Hello: So far I have been given the one on Somerled Square. I would think it would be a Presbyterian that goes back to the early 1800's. Probably more in the centre of town. When I was there in Sept.1997 I went into a lovely church in the centre of town where the ladies were having a bazaar. Sure wish I had the information then that I have now. Does this help enough and do you think the Somerled one is about correct for then. Many Thanks Lorraine Ottawa, Canada