In a message dated 20/11/00 3:20:05 AM Central Standard Time, Lileddie32@aol.com writes: << I have not opened any attachments, or downloaded anything in several weeks. However, I was going through emails the other night, the computer pulling them up one after the other, and I may have inadvertently opened one of the emails. Is it possible to get infected just by opening the email? This happened on Friday evening (early Saturday morning), about 48 hours ago, and I have not noticed my computer acting up in any way? Can someone briefly explain what this virus does? I have Norton, but it hasn't alarmed me to anything, either. Thank you, Joanie Thorburn >> >From what I understand it is the attachments that carry the virus and not the email letters themselves. Dave

In a message dated 19/11/00 10:57:34 AM Central Standard Time, george@kinmylie.demon.co.uk writes: << > Hi Kay Ness Walk is on the west side of the river Ness, (on the opposite side from the castle) it is split into two sections; upper ( from Bught Park to the Cathedral ) and lower ( from the Palace Hotel to the corner of Young street). As far as I can make out there were only two hotels there at that time. The Victoria Hotel, built 1881, it then became the Alexandra Hotel and in 1923 The Columba hotel. The other The Palace Hotel was built in 1890. Try re-reading the document to see if you can make it out any better with this in mind. There was no Lanfield Rd. in Inverness as far as I can see, I would think that it my be Planefield Rd.. I don't suppose this is of any help to you but if I have time I will try to confirm it. George Inverness -- George D. Christie >> Right you are George, visions of the Ness Cafe come to mind. hahaha. I never paid much attention to the street names as they were just a means to get some place. Thanks for the clarification. Dave

However it *is* possible for people with certain versions of Microsoft Outlook or Outlook Express to get certain viruses (eg Kakworm) from their regular e-mail (not attachments). I don't know whether RootsWeb will catch this, but I doubt it. The solution for this type of virus is to make sure your Microsoft e-mail program has been updated from their website or to use an e-mail program from another company. And/or to keep your anti virus program very current. (Mine missed it because I didn't bother to keep it updated). Most virus warnings are hoaxes. Most people now know to check a good website dealing with viruses for more information, rather than passing virus hoaxes along. Jim > Hi Joanie, > You won't get any atttachments from the > rootsweb lists as they are not allowed. They must have been with > private messages. > > Norton will catch any so called viruses, if you update it and the > programme will remind you to do that. > > Cannot say what a virus will do as I have never seen one. Just lots of > virus 'scare' messages from time to time. > > regards, > > Maureen Kuzyk. >

Mon, 20 Nov 2000 04:11:22 EST From: Lileddie32@aol.com To: SCT-INVERNESS-L@rootsweb.com I have not opened any attachments, or downloaded anything in several weeks. However, I was going through emails the other night, the computer pulling them up one after the other, and I may have inadvertently opened one of the emails. Is it possible to get infected just by opening the email? ================================= Hi Joanie, You won't get any atttachments from the rootsweb lists as they are not allowed. They must have been with private messages. Norton will catch any so called viruses, if you update it and the programme will remind you to do that. Cannot say what a virus will do as I have never seen one. Just lots of virus 'scare' messages from time to time. regards, Maureen Kuzyk.

Hello Jane, Possibly the saint, Edom, was also known as Esau. From the Encyclopaedia Britannica: 'Esau, also called Edom, in the Old Testament, son of Isaac and Rebekah, elder twin brother of Jacob, and in Hebrew tradition the ancestor of the Edomites.' 'Edom, ancient land bordering ancient Israel in what is now southwestern Jordon, between the Dead Sea and the Gulf of Aqaba.' Lyndall Canberra ----- Original Message ----- > I wonder if anybody can tell me anything about a saint called Edom who had > chapels devoted to him in the HIghlands? I can find nothing on the web. Many > thanks! Jane >

I have not opened any attachments, or downloaded anything in several weeks. However, I was going through emails the other night, the computer pulling them up one after the other, and I may have inadvertently opened one of the emails. Is it possible to get infected just by opening the email? This happened on Friday evening (early Saturday morning), about 48 hours ago, and I have not noticed my computer acting up in any way? Can someone briefly explain what this virus does? I have Norton, but it hasn't alarmed me to anything, either. Thank you, Joanie Thorburn

I wonder if anybody can tell me anything about a saint called Edom who had chapels devoted to him in the HIghlands? I can find nothing on the web. Many thanks! Jane

In message <009e01c05000$ea4fe320$9823883e@silicon>, Kay Liney <kay@knockard.freeserve.co.uk> writes >Hello >I hope some kind Invernessian can help me out with some local knowledge. >At Register House I got some details of a marriage in Inverness in >1896 of John Cameron, chemist and Jane Osborne Sutherland.but could not >make out some of the addresses . The wedding was at Tichrig????? Hotel >Nesswalk and the usual residence of the Groom, was something like >Rillevack House, Lanfield Rd >Kay > > > Hi Kay Ness Walk is on the west side of the river Ness, (on the opposite side from the castle) it is split into two sections; upper ( from Bught Park to the Cathedral ) and lower ( from the Palace Hotel to the corner of Young street). As far as I can make out there were only two hotels there at that time. The Victoria Hotel, built 1881, it then became the Alexandra Hotel and in 1923 The Columba hotel. The other The Palace Hotel was built in 1890. Try re-reading the document to see if you can make it out any better with this in mind. There was no Lanfield Rd. in Inverness as far as I can see, I would think that it my be Planefield Rd.. I don't suppose this is of any help to you but if I have time I will try to confirm it. George Inverness -- George D. Christie " Change is not made without inconvenience, even from worse to better "

I have lost the message regarding an Alexander Grant from the Glen Urquhart area whom I seem to remember had military connections and might have died in the first quarter of the 1700's - would whoever was enquiring get in touch. Thanks. Elizabeth.

In a message dated 16/11/00 5:23:05 PM Central Standard Time, kay@knockard.freeserve.co.uk writes: << Hello I hope some kind Invernessian can help me out with some local knowledge. At Register House I got some details of a marriage in Inverness in 1896 of John Cameron, chemist and Jane Osborne Sutherland.but could not make out some of the addresses . The wedding was at Tichrig????? Hotel Nesswalk and the usual residence of the Groom, was something like Rillevack House, Lanfield Rd Kay >> I did not see anyone answer so here is a wee bit information that may help. Ness Walk is the "street, or path actually that follows the River Ness down towards the Islands. The Hotel would be on that or rather to the side of that walk way. I know ladies walk is on the same side of the water as the Castle, but Ican not for the life of me remember whether Ness Walk is a continuation, or on the other side of the river, but I think it is. Then again these could just be names we used for the area, as in Ladies walk. It may indeed be Ness walk. Anyway it follows the bank of the river west from the High St. Bridge. Hope this helps Dave

Hi All, Just wanted to let you know that I haven't forgotten about you....although I've been rather busy maintaining various other websites - I still read all the e-mails and such and have been trying to keep ours current.....speaking of which.....I've updated the HIES passenger lists (thanks to Peter McDonald) and have added a few Glen pix in the past couple of weeks...and am now again looking for more <grin>......so if you have anything to offer - please do - although I'm still going over many previously submitted articles to add to the site - I still would like more - especially old pix of our ancestors..... Cheers, Bryan Keddy Halifax, N.S. Scotland Glens - http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/bryanfkeddy/Glen1.html - ------------------------------------------------------------------------

In a message dated 16/11/00 1:03:52 PM Central Standard Time, elizabeth@dulaig.freeserve.co.uk writes: << To the listers I have promised to help with look-ups - The Inverness library was closed today, the very day I chose to make the round trip, the local government employees were on strike for the day!!!! I won't forget to do the searching as I promised, but it might be another week. Sorry. Elizabeth >> Is this Elizabeth K from Beuly? If it is then this is your cousin Dave. If it's not well it's not. Dave

To the listers I have promised to help with look-ups - The Inverness library was closed today, the very day I chose to make the round trip, the local government employees were on strike for the day!!!! I won't forget to do the searching as I promised, but it might be another week. Sorry. Elizabeth

Hello I hope some kind Invernessian can help me out with some local knowledge. At Register House I got some details of a marriage in Inverness in 1896 of John Cameron, chemist and Jane Osborne Sutherland.but could not make out some of the addresses . The wedding was at Tichrig????? Hotel Nesswalk and the usual residence of the Groom, was something like Rillevack House, Lanfield Rd Kay

Hello Everyone: Sometime ago I had been questioning the letters CF beside a baptism/ christening in 1838 in Portree. I did accept an explanation of Carnalis Filius (Conceived in Fornication). This has now been discussed on another List and I wanted to share it with you. One never knows when you may find one like this as it looks like the childs initials. Hope this helps someone. Lorraine Ottawa, Canada Carnalis Filius(m)-or Carnalis Filia(f) dependent on the sex of the child Carno Carnis (noun)(f) - flesh Carnalis,carnale, (adj) - carnal/sensual things; things of the flesh; carnal, fleshy, bodily, sensual; of the flesh; not spiritual; Filius - Fillii (m)- Son Filia - Filliae (f) - Daughter see http://lysy2.archives.nd.edu/cgi-bin/words.exe?Carnalis or http://dictionaries.travlang.com/EnglishLatin/ for help with LATIN

To add to what Lyndall has to say, census enumerators had to supply pen and ink at their own expense. To save on ink they would use pens with a very fine nib, and they would water down the ink. Anyone who has tried to read some of the old census enumerators books will know that recording the data for later generations to read easily was not uppermost in their minds. Iain Glasgow, Scotland ---------- > From: Lyndall <lyfrah@goldweb.com.au> > To: SCT-INVERNESS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SCT-INV-L] Re: Spelling of Last name > Date: 15 November 2000 19:17 > > I'm often surprised that so many people query the spelling variations of a > name. > Quite apart from the fact that spelling variations occur because a person is > illiterate and, therefore, is dependent on the 'hearer' writing down the > correct name, have the people who question the spelling variations > considered the fact that the scribes had to write with a quill dipped in > ink? Abbreviations, under those circumstances, would be the norm! Surely > everyone recognises that 'Rbt' = Robert, and that 'Jas' = James etc., > without question! The same scribes will confidently wrote Mac as "Mc". It's > all quite logical. > > Lyndall > Canberra > >

I'm often surprised that so many people query the spelling variations of a name. Quite apart from the fact that spelling variations occur because a person is illiterate and, therefore, is dependent on the 'hearer' writing down the correct name, have the people who question the spelling variations considered the fact that the scribes had to write with a quill dipped in ink? Abbreviations, under those circumstances, would be the norm! Surely everyone recognises that 'Rbt' = Robert, and that 'Jas' = James etc., without question! The same scribes will confidently wrote Mac as "Mc". It's all quite logical. Lyndall Canberra

I have long assumed that because of their primary locations. Dick

Here is a reply from Malcolm on the above subject....... Thanks to Malcolm, Peter >From: "Malcolm C. McDonald, Esq. OAM." <malmcdon@powerup.com.au> >To: "Peter J. McDonald" <peter_mcdonald@sftw.com> >Subject: Re: Spelling of Last name >Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 00:22:01 +1000 >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 > >The spelling of names [unfortunately] relied most of the time on the >recorder, and whether >he was English or Scots and whether he couldactually spell. > >That's what makes research so frustrating at times. > >The original was one of = Vic, Vc, V'c, Mhic and then Mac, Mc, M'c, Mack, >so all are correct and mean son of. > >Some times the name was recorded phonetically and that is why you have >M'kissak or MacKessick. just as MacIain was written phonically as Mackeen, >in the north of Scotland, and of course he was a MacDonald. > >For Macdonald; MacDonald ; McDonald, they are all correct - my ancestor >was recorded in the Ship's individual papers as Macdonald but in the list >of passengers as McDonald. > >Generally, Macdonald is "of the family." > >MacDonell was the spelling used by Glengarry and also by Keppoch. > >MacIsaac, being a Sept of Clan Donald would be under the Arms of >Clanranald and would use the belted crest of Clan Ranald. > >Regards, > Malcolm. >-----Original Message----- >From: Peter J. McDonald <peter_mcdonald@sftw.com> >To: HilandeRPM@aol.com <HilandeRPM@aol.com> >Cc: jmacisaac@uswest.net <jmacisaac@uswest.net>; Skyedam@aol.com ><Skyedam@aol.com>; PLATHNY@aol.com <PLATHNY@aol.com>; Shamoidart@aol.com ><Shamoidart@aol.com>; malmcdon@powerup.com.au <malmcdon@powerup.com.au>; >macfarlane@glenfinnanhouse.dialnet.com ><macfarlane@glenfinnanhouse.dialnet.com>; cmatthews@caliph.net.au ><cmatthews@caliph.net.au>; AHetherington@sombris.org.au ><AHetherington@sombris.org.au>; lindseym@red.hot.net.au ><lindseym@red.hot.net.au>; mmmcd@bigpond.com <mmmcd@bigpond.com>; >pmcdonald@sia.net.au <pmcdonald@sia.net.au>; jakkmc@mail2me.com.au ><jakkmc@mail2me.com.au>; carmella20@hotmail.com <carmella20@hotmail.com> >Date: 13 November 2000 15:11 >Subject: Spelling of Last name > > > >Dick, and everyone else > >I am afraid I cannot shed any light on the subject. McDonald, Mcdonald, > >MacDonald, Macdonald, and then if you go back further I think it is > >M'Donald, M'donald etc or even M'donnell. > >I have seen the M'Isaac, McIsaac, MacIsaac, Macisaac, M'kissak, M'Isaak > >spellings and I do not think it matters. I have been wrong before. > >I thought the last name had to be pure, ie, exactly the same, but have > >changed my mind after seeing the spelling of the M'Isaak name in the 1745 > >muster for Bonnie Prince Charlie. > > > >The coat of arms, I think Clan Ranald has its own, I do not know if the > >M'Isaak's of Clan Ranald have their own coat of arms though?!! > > > >Peter, with both last names, McDonald/M'Isaak of Clan Ranald > > > >At 04:15 PM 11/12/00 -0500, you wrote: > >>Peter, > >> > >>A friend asked me these questions, so I thought I'd try you. > >> > >>Would you know the origin of the spelling of McDonald with a small d: > >>Mcdonald? Which line of Clan Ranald that may be? If there is a way to > >>determine a coat of arms pertaining to those with this spelling? > >> > >>Dick MacLeod > > > >

>Hi to all interested in the Scots Emigration, >Thanks again to Bill Clarke in Tasmania and Bryan Keddy in Nova Scotia, >the HIES passenger site has been updated. Also there is a new history >page and a link to the "Sir Allan McNab" which came across to >Tasmania. That site is brim full of information thanks to Donald >Macdonald-Ross. >The following ships have HIES passengers information only. So for Ship 1, >the Mangerton and Family 1, McDonald family of Point of Sleat you will >also see which estate they are from, McDonald (Ithink it is Lord McDonald). >This is extremely valuable information which was not recorded on the >Passenger list. > >http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/bryanfkeddy/HIES1.html >MANGERTON, BORNUEF, ARAMINTA, MEDINA (families 1-31) > >Thank you Bryan for reorganizing the web site and Bill for all his research. >Gradually we are getting there... >Peter >At 02:40 AM 11/13/00 -0400, you wrote: >>Hi Peter, >> >>Glad to hear that your getting some exercise....guess it's my turn as >>I've gained 5 lbs since my last doctors appointment - too many hours >>sitting and exercising my fingers on this keyboard.....anyway just wanted >>to let you know that I've placed most of the HIES info online that you >>sent (still have Georginana, Ontario and Allison to do).....and have >>decided to put HIES in red and any additional passenger info below and in >>blue......but on the same page.... >> >>Take care, >> >>Bryan >>--------------------------------------------------------------------------