In a message dated 03/08/2003 17:24:24 Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: You may want to contact the Huron County Historic Society in Huron County Ontario Canada. If memory serves me (that would be a first), there was a large migration to that area from either Lewis or Harris in that time frame. Hope that helps Dave > Dear List, > > We have record of our McLeod and Morrison families leaving the Isle of > Harris about 1863 on a ship named "Royal George". I can find information > on a much earlier ship and one much, much later, around World War I. > > Does anyone have a relative who could have been a passenger on the Royal > George in the mid 1860's? > > Gary Veale > [email protected] > MOL DO OIGHREACHD CELEBRATE YOUR HERITAGE to listen to ScotRadio just click below Click here for short films <A HREF="http://www.live365.com/stations/240319">http://www.live365.com/stations/240319</A> <A HREF="http://tvscots.neptune.com/index.html?selectedalbum_id=tvscots20033241324203652">http://tvscots.neptune.com</A>

Oops - posted the wrong question - here goes this time: Could someone please advise whether McKECHNIE and McECHERN could be interchangeable. I have a death cert (1876) with the wife's maiden name being the later, but it has been known, in recent years anyway, as the former. Is it likely we have a different person; or given that it was a Scots-born person who supplied the information for the cert, could he have been using 'the old tounge' when naming the wife's maiden name. She was either already deceased or never came to this country. Many thanks Elizabeth O'Connell New Zealand

Hello I have been exploring again, the Statistical Accounts of 1791-1799 and for 1845. The one of Barray / Barra was done as of January 1840. Would anyone know how often these Accounts were prepared in each area. Would there likely have been others and they only have these 2 on-line. Just wondering about it. Any ideas appreciated. Lorraine Ottawa, Canada http://stat-acc-scot.edina.ac.uk/stat-acc-scot/stat-acc-scot.asp

Dear List, We have record of our McLeod and Morrison families leaving the Isle of Harris about 1863 on a ship named "Royal George". I can find information on a much earlier ship and one much, much later, around World War I. Does anyone have a relative who could have been a passenger on the Royal George in the mid 1860's? Gary Veale [email protected]

Hi, all. I'm new to the list. I am trying to trace my 3rd great grandfather, Robert Roberson, who was born "on the ocean" in March, 1786. I have a hunch that his parents probably left Scotland via Portree. Does anyone have any information on any other ships that left there besides the ones in 1803??? Thanks! Jan Robison Kendallville, Indiana --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/TeC.2ACE/465.478.1.1 Message Board Post: Senior's moment---the passenger lists were on microfilm---the ships pictures were in a book. Sorry about that.

We are having trouble locating a family c. 1790s in the OPRs and was wondering whether there was another 'religious faction' at that time and could our family be recorded in another set of records. Or .. if there were other religious factions at that time, did those people still have to be recorded in the Church of Scotland Registers (OPRs)? (They were not Catholic). The family is CAMERON who are believed to have lived at Invermaille on the South shore of Loch Arkaig, so my cousin searched the Kilmallie film. Although finding 'hundreds of Camerons', he was unable to find brothers John & Angus. The mother's maiden names of the brothers were Ann McINTYRE &/or McMILLAN and we have another dozen or so names of siblings, so we believed we had enough information to positively identify this family. Given there were families from Invermaille on that film and ours wasn't there, should we be looking elsewhere - like Kilmonivaig OPRs or another set of religious registers? Has anyone got any suggestions please? Many thanks Elizabeth O'Connell New Zealand

We are having trouble locating a family c. 1790s in the OPRs and was wondering whether there was another 'religious faction' at that time and could our family be recorded in another set of records. Or .. if there were other religious factions at that time, did those people still have to be recorded in the Church of Scotland Registers (OPRs)? (They were not Catholic). The family is CAMERON who are believed to have lived at Invermaille on the South shore of Loch Arkaig, so my cousin searched the Kilmallie film. Although finding 'hundreds of Camerons', he was unable to find brothers John & Angus. Their father was Angus and their mother's maiden names were Ann McINTYRE &/or McMILLAN and we have another dozen or so names of siblings, so we believed we had enough information to positively identify this family. Given there were families from Invermaille on that film and ours wasn't there, should we be looking elsewhere - like Kilmonivaig OPRs or another set of religious registers? Has anyone got any suggestions please? Many thanks Elizabeth O'Connell New Zealand

There were indeed many other factions at that time. The OPRs come from the established church - the Church of Scotland. They handed their material over to the nation and that is why it can be searched at Register House in Edinburgh, or online at Scotlandspeople. The competition were the secession churches which broke away over such issues as the right of the congregation to choose a minister. They then had their own schisms and reunions. Then in 1843 there was a mass breakaway from the Church of Scotland, forming the Free Church. (And then more splits and reunions). All of which means that in some parishes pre 1855 lots of people would not be attending the parish church. Perhaps as many as half the population. They would need to have their marriage banns called there, but they would be married and baptise their children in the church of their choice. Membership was particularly strong in the artisan ie skilled working class families. Some records of these churches survive and are to be found at the National Archives of Scotland. these are many Kirk Session records - the records of the committees who ran things. I dont know whether the Inverness region was particularly affected, but one way to check is to go and look at the online Statistical Accounts for Scotland. (Follow links from National Library of Scotland site). The parish ministers who compiled these reports often give a summary of the extent of secession attendance on their patch. bear in mind too that people who attended non Church of Scotland churches werent limited to their home parish. The nearest church for them might be a distance away, or they might go a bit further for a preacher they approved of. On the other hand there are many other reasons for 'missing' families. It would be a good idea to find some corroborating evidence for the family being in the parish eg place of birth in 1851 census, or a will. Judy ---------- >From: "DP & EM O'Connell" <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Subject: [SCT-INV] Religions & Other Records Late 1700s >Date: 02, Sat Aug, 2003, 8:23 pm > > We are having trouble locating a family c. 1790s in the OPRs and was > wondering whether there > was another 'religious faction' at that time and could our family be > recorded in another set > of records. > Or .. if there were other religious factions at that time, did those people > still have to be > recorded in the Church of Scotland Registers (OPRs)? (They were not Catholic). >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/TeC.2ACE/1119 Message Board Post: Hi, I'm from the Tenbeth family in New Zealand. My Grand parents were Tenbeths and my Mother I think contacted Clare Tenbeth a while ago. I know she would appreciate any information that you have on her family as she dosn't Know much of it her self.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: MacDonnell Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/TeC.2ACE/999.1.1.1.1.2 Message Board Post: Lori I was in Scotland a few months ago. There is a Keppoch in the Highlands, near the West coast... close to the coastal area across from the Isle of Skye. It's rural but the area still exists. Other towns near by would be Dornie, Glengarry. A bigger town not too far away would be Fort William. Or Mallaig (I might not be spelling that one right). It's a beautiful area, I was cycling by day and camping or B&Bing by night! I wasn't in Keppoch but I was pretty close and I even saw an old map in an antique store which now I wish I would have purchased. It was one of those ordinance survey maps that show the hills and elevations and stuff. (Good to have when cycling!) I am trying to research info on some MacDonnell people, the man was born in 1708 and he had a wife named Mary; at least one son; and the man had at least 1 sister. His name might have been Ian, or Iain, or Eoin, or Angus. It's hard to do on these boards, I'd like to go back and poke around in the cemetary and see if I can find out more! In each area it seemed like all the people in the cemetary had the same name. I saw Campbells, Fergusons, etc in the towns I went through.

This is my new lead Joan McDERMID bn 1855 Portree Inverness Parents Cornelious McDERMID & Marion BAIN Between 1851 & 1862 were living in Durinish Regards Heather

Is anyone Looking for Macdonalds in Inverness ? I have traced my family back to an 1808 wedding in Fort Augustus between - DONALD MCKAY & HANNAH MACDONALD (My GGGrandparents). Both born in Fort Augustus, at least 3 children also born there. They moved to Kiltarlity probably in 1832, and both died there between 1851 and 1858. Can you recommend any good MACDONALD/Fort Augustus contacts ? Any Ideas would be great !! Kyle McAllister

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: MacLean Reply Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/TeC.2ACE/93.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Jim, Sorry to take so long to reply to your Query. Looking back at my query, I realize I should have worded it better, but my Great-Great Grandfather was Duncan McKay and his brother was Neil McKay, They also had a sister Mary who married Alexander McKinnon from Muck. Between these three, Mary, Duncan and Neil, they had thirty children, although Neil had the advantage of being married twice. Their Mother was Ann McMillan, also from Muck, b. 1788, and their father was John McKay, unfortunately all I know about him is his name, but I believe he was from the Isle of Muck as well. The McLean's I mentioned were other families that arrived at the same time from the same place, but have so far found no direct connection, family wise.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/TeC.2ACE/465.478.1 Message Board Post: I found a book at our library in Lethbridge with passenger lists but I am not at home at the moment so can not give you the name. Subsequently I was able to find another book that had piactures of the ships on it. HAve you tried the public libarary or your local LDS Family History Centre?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: gudger Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/TeC.2ACE/1118 Message Board Post: my name is bob gudger ,i live in a small town called brightlingsea. nr. colchester essex u.k. i have read that the gudgers left scotland to go america i would be very interested if anybody has anyinformation on this subject many thanks bob

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Hi Reposting my interests Regards Judy Hall in a very cold and windy Ipswich in SE Qld (-3 degrees this morning) *William McBEAN mar Katherin McDONALD 1796 Inverness, Inverness Children: 1.James chr 21 Nov 1797 Inverness 2. Mary chr 6 Jan 1800 Inverness 3.*Donald chr 1 May 1802 Inverness mar Graham McKENZIE 24 July 1850 Gorbals, Lanark 4. William chr 1804 Inv 5. Alexander chr 1806 Inv died 1885 Ipswich, Qld, AUS 6. Jean chr 1809 Inv *Donald marr 24 July 1850 in Hutchesontown, Gorbals, Lanark to Graham McKENZIE (b abt 1831 ?Glasgow ?Edinburgh to Donald & Eliz (Miller) McKENZIE, schoolteacher) (emig to Australia to Ipswich in Queensland in 1856) Children: 1. Jane b abt 1852 Inverness SCT marr Osborne M WRATTEN (Cooktown & Ipswich ; Qld) (Toowoomba -PHILLIPS) 2. Catherine b 21 Jan 1853, Argyll, SCT marr 1. William McLUCAS 2 Henry MALE (Ipswich & Kingaroy, Qld) 3. Elizabeth Graham b 21 Nov 1856 Ipswich, AUS marr John ADAMS (Boonah, Qld, AUS) 4. William b 15 Dec 1858 marr Emma Susannah EYLES (Springsure, Qld, AUS) 5. Annie b 5 Aug 1861 marr Michael McLOUGHLIN (Morven, Qld) 6. Donald b 5 Aug 1861 marr Ada (Annie) Margaret McDONALD (Morven & Toowoomba, Qld) 7. *Elizabeth Ann b 19 March 1864 Ipswich, AUS marr Jacob FRANCIS (Laidley, Qld) 8. Graham McKenzie (Ellen) b 24 April 1866 Ipswich marr Samuel DAVIDSON (Morven, Qld & Melbourne, Vic) 9. Benjamine b 29 Sept 1868 marr Margaret HALY (Boonah, Qld) 10. John b 13 Feb 1871 marr Edith TOMKINSON (Manly, Qld) 11. James Alexander b 13 Feb 1871 marr Eliz BALLIN (dau of Charles BALLIN & Wilhelmina SCHMIDT) (Rockhampton, Qld) 12. Mary Florence Whitehouse b 27 May 1874 marr James HOGAN (Ipswich, Qld)

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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: MacDonald, Carmichal, MacFarlane Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/TeC.2ACE/1116.1 Message Board Post: My ggg grandfather Donald MacDonald is shown on the IGI as born about 1793, Moidart,Inverness, father John MacDonald. Donald married Mary Carmichal at parish of Kildalton, Islay, Argyll on March 26, 1808. Their daughter Catherine and her husband Samuel MacFarlane returned to Moidart (Eilean Shona in Loch Moidart) about 1863. I would be glad to hear from anyone with a connection to my MacDonalds or more info about any MacDonalds in Moidart. Larry Wesson