I have done as Liz suggested and checked the 1851 Census Index on Ancestry for Edinburgh, just entering Isabella born 1846 Edinburgh. I have gone through all the surnames and I have found a family called Gunnfunde living at 27 N. Rich Street, Edinburgh C55CT 1851-182 Line 5 Household Schedule 44. William Gunnfunde 50 born Fifeshire Elizabeth Gunnfunde 19 Euphemia Gunnfunde 11 Isabella Gunnfunde 9 Would SKS, who has the 1851 Census for Edinburgh, please check this family to see if the surname has been wrongly transcribed and should be Rutherford and to see what William's occupation was. I would be very grateful. Best Wishes, Anne in Bolton. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Liz Parkinson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 4:49 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] PLEASE CAN SOMEONE HELP - RUTHERFORD >I have been throught this my 4 x gt grandmother, looking for her birth and > her death, and came to the conclusions she must have been beamed down by > aliens, and either have been beamed off again or was sitting in the corner > of a residential home aged 204 and no-one realised that when she talked of > the French Wars she was actually reminiscing. She was also an > Isabella/ela/el/elle! On her marriage records (pre 1837) her name, not > written by her she signed with a X, was either Greaves or Geaves depending > on whether or not you took the ink blob on one occurence to be an R or an > ink blob. > > She turned out to be Isabella JAVES. So, have you tried looking for > bizarre spelling mistakes. Dutherford, Sutherford, Wutherford etc. > However bizarre - I too am experienced but would never ever have looked > for > Javes because it is so obscure I had never known anyone by that name, and > it > took someone who had to think of it. > > Less likely - could she have been illegitimate and known by a different > name > to her father, or could her mother have remarried after being widowed and > Isabella said that her father was William Rutherford when in fact in he > was > really her step father. > > Or, could she simply have been beamed down by aliens :-) > > As for my Isabel*** JAVES, she did die, but the aliens must have reclaimed > her body as she wasnt buried anywhere - and I have tracked down all the > family graves for that group of people! > > HTH > > Liz P > > >>From: "pneanne" <[email protected]> >>Reply-To: [email protected] >>To: <[email protected]> >>Subject: [SCT-EDINBURGH] PLEASE CAN SOMEONE HELP - RUTHERFORD >>Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 15:42:49 -0000 >> >>Please, please, please, can someone help me to find my great grandmother, >> >>I have been researching my family for over 20 years and have also helped >>numerous other people knock down their brick walls, so I am not a novice, >>but I am absolutely stuck on my great grandmother Isabella Rutherford born >>about 1846, Scotland. On the censuses her age is very consistent 1846/47. >> >>On her marriage to Peter Abbott of Preston, Lancashire she shows her >>father >>as William Rutherford, coachman. Peter and Isabella were married in >>Newport, Wales, as he was in the army. In 1871 he was stationed in >>Ireland, >>so I have not got her on the 1871 Census. >> >>Peter Abbott was stationed at Edinburgh Castle in the 1860's before they >>got married, so she may be from Edinburgh or was living there at the time. >> >>On the 1881 Census in Preston, her birthplace is shown as EDINBURGH. >> >>On the 1891 Census in Preston, her birthplace is shown as PRESTON. >> >>On the 1901 Census in Preston, her birthplace is shown as PAISLEY. >> >>Years ago, I sent for a birth certificate for Isabella Rutherford, born >>1846 Edinburgh, father William Rutherford. I was sent the certificate for >>Isabella Rutherford, father William Rutherford, fisherman and Christian >>Steele, in Newhaven, North Leith. I researched this family for ages and >>travelled to Edinburgh a few times. I eventually discounted this family, >>as >>this Isabella was still in Newhaven, Leith in 1901. I have also >>discounted Isabella daughter of William Rutherford and Jessie Balmer. >> >>I have looked on the 1851 and 1861 Scotland Census Indexes on Ancestry and >>also looked for births on Scotland's People, but nothing fits. >> >>I am beginning to think that Isabella made up the name of her father. >> >>One piece of information I had from my auntie was that her grandmother >>Isabella came from a big farm. >> >>If anyone can help me I will be eternally grateful, as I would love to >>find >>her family and trace them further back. >> >>Kind regards, >> >>Anne in Bolton, Lancashire. >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ > Find Singles In Your Area This Christmas With Match.com! msnuk.match.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.28/604 - Release Date: > 26/12/2006 12:23 > >

I dont have the censuses, but this sounds a very promising family Liz - in Stockport > >I have done as Liz suggested and checked the 1851 Census Index on Ancestry >for Edinburgh, just entering Isabella born 1846 Edinburgh. > >I have gone through all the surnames and I have found a family called >Gunnfunde living at 27 N. Rich Street, Edinburgh C55CT 1851-182 Line 5 >Household Schedule 44. > >William Gunnfunde 50 born Fifeshire >Elizabeth Gunnfunde 19 >Euphemia Gunnfunde 11 >Isabella Gunnfunde 9 > >Would SKS, who has the 1851 Census for Edinburgh, please check this family >to see if the surname has been wrongly transcribed and should be Rutherford >and to see what William's occupation was. I would be very grateful. > >Best Wishes, > >Anne in Bolton. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Liz Parkinson" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 4:49 PM >Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] PLEASE CAN SOMEONE HELP - RUTHERFORD > > > >I have been throught this my 4 x gt grandmother, looking for her birth >and > > her death, and came to the conclusions she must have been beamed down by > > aliens, and either have been beamed off again or was sitting in the >corner > > of a residential home aged 204 and no-one realised that when she talked >of > > the French Wars she was actually reminiscing. She was also an > > Isabella/ela/el/elle! On her marriage records (pre 1837) her name, not > > written by her she signed with a X, was either Greaves or Geaves >depending > > on whether or not you took the ink blob on one occurence to be an R or >an > > ink blob. > > > > She turned out to be Isabella JAVES. So, have you tried looking for > > bizarre spelling mistakes. Dutherford, Sutherford, Wutherford etc. > > However bizarre - I too am experienced but would never ever have looked > > for > > Javes because it is so obscure I had never known anyone by that name, >and > > it > > took someone who had to think of it. > > > > Less likely - could she have been illegitimate and known by a different > > name > > to her father, or could her mother have remarried after being widowed >and > > Isabella said that her father was William Rutherford when in fact in he > > was > > really her step father. > > > > Or, could she simply have been beamed down by aliens :-) > > > > As for my Isabel*** JAVES, she did die, but the aliens must have >reclaimed > > her body as she wasnt buried anywhere - and I have tracked down all the > > family graves for that group of people! > > > > HTH > > > > Liz P > > > > > >>From: "pneanne" <[email protected]> > >>Reply-To: [email protected] > >>To: <[email protected]> > >>Subject: [SCT-EDINBURGH] PLEASE CAN SOMEONE HELP - RUTHERFORD > >>Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 15:42:49 -0000 > >> > >>Please, please, please, can someone help me to find my great >grandmother, > >> > >>I have been researching my family for over 20 years and have also helped > >>numerous other people knock down their brick walls, so I am not a >novice, > >>but I am absolutely stuck on my great grandmother Isabella Rutherford >born > >>about 1846, Scotland. On the censuses her age is very consistent >1846/47. > >> > >>On her marriage to Peter Abbott of Preston, Lancashire she shows her > >>father > >>as William Rutherford, coachman. Peter and Isabella were married in > >>Newport, Wales, as he was in the army. In 1871 he was stationed in > >>Ireland, > >>so I have not got her on the 1871 Census. > >> > >>Peter Abbott was stationed at Edinburgh Castle in the 1860's before they > >>got married, so she may be from Edinburgh or was living there at the >time. > >> > >>On the 1881 Census in Preston, her birthplace is shown as EDINBURGH. > >> > >>On the 1891 Census in Preston, her birthplace is shown as PRESTON. > >> > >>On the 1901 Census in Preston, her birthplace is shown as PAISLEY. > >> > >>Years ago, I sent for a birth certificate for Isabella Rutherford, born > >>1846 Edinburgh, father William Rutherford. I was sent the certificate >for > >>Isabella Rutherford, father William Rutherford, fisherman and Christian > >>Steele, in Newhaven, North Leith. I researched this family for ages and > >>travelled to Edinburgh a few times. I eventually discounted this family, > >>as > >>this Isabella was still in Newhaven, Leith in 1901. I have also > >>discounted Isabella daughter of William Rutherford and Jessie Balmer. > >> > >>I have looked on the 1851 and 1861 Scotland Census Indexes on Ancestry >and > >>also looked for births on Scotland's People, but nothing fits. > >> > >>I am beginning to think that Isabella made up the name of her father. > >> > >>One piece of information I had from my auntie was that her grandmother > >>Isabella came from a big farm. > >> > >>If anyone can help me I will be eternally grateful, as I would love to > >>find > >>her family and trace them further back. > >> > >>Kind regards, > >> > >>Anne in Bolton, Lancashire. > >> > >>------------------------------- > >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the > >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Find Singles In Your Area This Christmas With Match.com! msnuk.match.com > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.28/604 - Release Date: > > 26/12/2006 12:23 > > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ MSN Hotmail is evolving – check out the new Windows Live Mail http://ideas.live.com