you might be back soon as one of the 1851 'possibles' for Ann gives 'Edinburgh' as place of birth.... Judy On 18 Apr 2007, at 13:56, Alan Elliott wrote: > Ooops sorry, thought Paisley was near (a suburb of) Edinburgh, so > much for > my knowledge of Scotland. > Now I see it is near Glasgow, so perhaps I had better migrate > across there. > For the record Isabella's mum - Ann Bxxxxxxx married John MARSHALL > 5th Oct > 1849 in the Parish of Paisley > > Alan Elliott > Torquay, Victoria, > Australia > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "judy olsen" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 9:53 PM > Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] BALLCOMPTON or BALCANCLE ? > > >> Who did Ann marry and what is the connection to Edinburgh? >> >> Judy >> >> >> >> On 18 Apr 2007, at 02:53, Alan Elliott wrote: >> >>> In Melbourne, Australia in 1870 Henry MIDDLETON married Isobella >>> MARSHALL >>> b.1851 Paisley. >>> On their wedding certificate Isobella gave her mothers name as Ann >>> BALLCOMPTON. >>> On the image of her parents wedding 5 Oct 1949 Ann's surname is >>> spelt >>> BALCANCLE ?. >>> >>> All other details of the marriage match the information I have from >>> other >>> sources. >>> But there is no like name in the 1841 census or births on >>> Scotlandspeople >>> for Ann. >>> >>> Are there such names as BALLCOMPTON and BALCANCLE. ? >>> >>> Alan Elliott >>> Torquay, Victoria, >>> Australia >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-EDINBURGH- >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-EDINBURGH- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Judy, Ok, your right again, the 1851 census does indicate Ann Bxxxxxx came from Edinburgh (forgot that piece of evidence), but what I wish to know is which name is correct as I cannot find a like name in the 1841 census or births on scotlandspeople, in order to find the birth & parents of Ann. The 1851 census indicates she was born about 1830 Is it BALLCOMPTON or BALCANCLE or some other variation ?, in other words were there families in Edinburgh in the early 1800's of either name or both or some other variation ?. Alan Elliott Torquay, Victoria, Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "judy olsen" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 11:09 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] BALLCOMPTON or BALCANCLE ? > you might be back soon as one of the 1851 'possibles' for Ann gives > 'Edinburgh' as place of birth.... > Judy > On 18 Apr 2007, at 13:56, Alan Elliott wrote: > >> Ooops sorry, thought Paisley was near (a suburb of) Edinburgh, so much >> for >> my knowledge of Scotland. >> Now I see it is near Glasgow, so perhaps I had better migrate across >> there. >> For the record Isabella's mum - Ann Bxxxxxxx married John MARSHALL >> 5th Oct 1849 in the Parish of Paisley >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "judy olsen" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 9:53 PM >> Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] BALLCOMPTON or BALCANCLE ? >>> Who did Ann marry and what is the connection to Edinburgh? >>> Judy > >>> On 18 Apr 2007, at 02:53, Alan Elliott wrote: >>> >>>> In Melbourne, Australia in 1870 Henry MIDDLETON married Isobella >>>> MARSHALL >>>> b.1851 Paisley. >>>> On their wedding certificate Isobella gave her mothers name as Ann >>>> BALLCOMPTON. >>>> On the image of her parents wedding 5 Oct 1949 Ann's surname is spelt >>>> BALCANCLE ?. >>>> All other details of the marriage match the information I have from >>>> other sources. >>>> But there is no like name in the 1841 census or births on >>>> Scotlandspeople for Ann. >>>> >>>> Are there such names as BALLCOMPTON and BALCANCLE. ?

On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 10:04:33 +1000, "Alan Elliott" <[email protected]> wrote: >Is it BALLCOMPTON or BALCANCLE or some other variation ?, in other words >were there families in Edinburgh in the early 1800's of either name or both >or some other variation ?. George F Black's "The Surnames of Scotland" has an entry for a name which sounds as though it could well be connected to Balcancle - note that one variation is Balcancoll: ------------ BALCANQUHALL, BALCANQUHAL. From the lands of the same name in the parish of Strathmiglo, Fife. John Belmacancolle was one of the garrison of Edinburgh Castle on the English side in 1340 (Bain, III, 1323 ). Richard de Balcanko witnessed resignation by Sir David de Wemyss of certain lands in Fife in 1373 (Wemyss, II, 15), and John de Balmacankow was present at perambulation of the bounds of Kyrknes and Louchor in 1395 (RPSA. p. 3). Walter de Balcancolle was a cleric and notary public of St. Andrews in 1440 ( RD, p. 297), and eight years later Thomas de Balcancole appears as burgess of Kirkcaldy (ibid., 424 ). Henry Ballincankol had possession of lands of Carmoir "by thatch and turf," 1550, and Walter Ballincankol and Alexander Ballincankol appear in same document (Gaw, 23 ). Mr. Walter Maccanqueill was on trial before the Assembly in 1575 ( MCM., I, p. 120), and Moysie (Memoirs, p. 51, 129, 138), in referring to him spells his name Backanquhale, Balkanquholle, and Backanquhell. Walter Ballincanquell was retoured heir of his father Alexander Ballincanquell de eodem in 1624 (Retours, Fife, 342 ). Anderson (Scot. Nat., I, p. 198 ) erroneously says "The surname of Balcanquhall seems to have been in course of time changed to Ballingall as more euphonious." Balcancoll 1517, Balcanq'll 1640, Balcanquaill 1653, Balcanquo 1639, Balcanquoll 1517, Balganquhill 1642; Ballincankoll. See MACCANQUALL. ------------ Can't help with Ballcompton though! Forrest -- Forrest Anderson, Edinburgh, Scotland. E-mail: [email protected] Website: www.military-researcher.com Forrestdale Research - Military Genealogical Researcher