Hi Rhoda, Yes, Bob did have that information regarding Mary Brown (nee Knowles) that she died on 29th January 1898 at the age of 38. Mary Brown (nee Knowles) had four known children John born circa 1880, Mary H born circa 1883, Ann Milne born 1884 and Alexander Brown born circa 1890. So if baby Ann Milne Brown died as an 8 month old, she would not be on the 1891 Census. So was there another daughter named Ann Milne Brown born to this couple? Or is there another Ann Milne Brown lurking in the background around this time? On a visit back to the Old Dart, Bob was able to obtain a copy of Anne Milne Brown's birth certificate, and that is how he knew that the Anne born in 1885 was the daughter of Butcher's Assistant. Then we have the birth certificate of Eva Christian Brown on 24th December 1909 (Bob's mother) and on this certificate her mother's names is Ann Milne Brown and she is the daughter of a Butcher's Assistant, however this does not appear to be so. Then who is she?. The certificate is signed by Ann Milne Brown - Mother. Did the Brown family take in an orphan girl and give her the name of their dead daughter? Who else was in the house at the time of the 1891 Census? This is a real Agatha Christie mystery. I know when I inform Bob that the person who he believed was his maternal grandmother actually died at the age of 8 months, is going to put him into a real spin. That also includes me. Regards, Janice Belrose - Sydney Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "CandROverson" <overson12@btinternet.com> To: <sct-edinburgh@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 9:52 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] John Brown and Mary Knowles > Hi Janice > > Mary Knowles died in Edinburgh in 1898 aged 36. This would fit with the > John Brown born Edinburgh c1860, a butcher living in Grove Street, who > appears in the 1891 Census with his wife Mary and family and then in the > 1901 census without his wife, and with two children: Mary,17, and > Alexander,11. Another son, John, who appeared in the 1891 Census aged 11, > is > no longer living with his father in 1901. > > May I ask how you know that Bob's Grandmother, Annie, was the daughter of > a > "butcher's assistant"? And what made you think that she was the daughter > of > John Brown and Mary Knowles? > > Rhoda > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-EDINBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Does the birth registration for Eva Christian Brown actually say that Ann Milne Brown was the daughter of a butcher's assistant? Would it be possible for you to provide the exact wording from the parents' names box of Eva Christian Brown's birth registration? >From Ancestry, on the 1901 census there is the following entry: 86 Grove Street, St George, Edinburgh John Brown, head, age: 23, occupation: railway engine stoker, born: Edinburgh Annie Brown, wife, age: 23, born: Edinburgh There is a marriage for a John Brown and Ann Thomson Paterson which took place 22 Mar 1901 in St. George, Edinburgh. John Brown, age: 23, railway servant, son of David Brown, barman and Isabella Brown, maiden surname Pearson (I think, difficult to read), usual residence 108 Lewiston Place, Edinburgh. Ann Thomson Brown, age: 23, rubber worker, daughter of Joseph Paterson, house painter and Elizabeth Paterson, maiden surname McNaughton, usual residence 80 Grove Street, Edinburgh. Ann Thomson Paterson Brown died in Glasgow in 1953. It is possible that this John Brown may be a relation to John Brown, butcher who was also at 86 Grove Street on the 1901 census. Jacquie Winnipeg, MB Canada -----Original Message----- From: sct-edinburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sct-edinburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Janice Doughty Sent: September 13, 2008 7:58 AM To: sct-edinburgh@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] John Brown and Mary Knowles Hi Rhoda, On a visit back to the Old Dart, Bob was able to obtain a copy of Anne Milne Brown's birth certificate, and that is how he knew that the Anne born in 1885 was the daughter of Butcher's Assistant. Then we have the birth certificate of Eva Christian Brown on 24th December 1909 (Bob's mother) and on this certificate her mother's names is Ann Milne Brown and she is the daughter of a Butcher's Assistant, however this does not appear to be so. Then who is she?. The certificate is signed by Ann Milne Brown - Mother. Regards, Janice Belrose - Sydney Australia