Hi Margaret, Unfortunately I don't have Elizabeth's maiden name. I need to find the marriage certificate to obtain that. Cheers Janine -----Original Message----- From: sct-edinburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sct-edinburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Margaret O' Donnell Sent: Monday, 29 December 2008 10:08 PM To: sct-edinburgh@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] Stewart family of Leith Hello Janine, Are you able to give Elizabeth's maiden name ? The Stewart family were listed on the passenger list of The Duchess of Northumberland which left London on Tuesday 6th Aug. 1839 and it arrived at Port Misery South Australia 19th Nov. 1839 ( I just googled it ) Kind Regards Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "janine h" <jhinton@westnet.com.au> To: <SCT-EDINBURGH@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 8:41 AM Subject: [SCT-EDINBURGH] Stewart family of Leith > > > Hi listers, > > Have just joined hoping for some help with this brick wall. > > Alexander Stewart and his wife Elizabeth and their four children > immigrated > to South Australia as free passengers. They sailed on the Duchess of > Northumberland and arrived in SA on 17.12.39. Alexander was supposedly 33 > (he had to be under 35 to be accepted) and Elizabeth was supposedly 29. > Their children were son 13, daughter 11, son 9 and daughter 7. This makes > them very young parents !! > > Anyway the records here state that he was a Shepherd in Leith however I > have > been unable to find a marriage for them and being from Western Australia, > I'm not even sure I'm looking in the right place. I believe Leith is now > part of Edinburgh. Just need some advice please as to where I can find a > marriage for these two people, whether there are online records or a > transcript agent who could help.. The children's names are Elizabeth, > Donald and Jessy. Haven't found the name of the fourth child. > > Cheers and thanks > Janine > Halls Creek WA > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-EDINBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-EDINBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.1/1867 - Release Date: 12/28/2008 2:23 PM

That is a pity makes things difficult. Family Search (LDS) has 2 marriages for an Alexander Stewart and - a - Elizabeth between the years 1806. + or - 2 years in Midlothian based on the dates and ages you have given. One Elizabeth (Purvis), I have discounted her because she had a child in 1843 in Edinburgh, the other Elizabeth is a Ferguson her father is named Dugald Ferguson. Without other proof I would not accept this either. The - Church of Scotland - OPR's are on line at Scotlands people. Do you know what church they attended if any ? Do you have any Marriage or Death certificates for any of their children in Australia which may list their mothers maiden name ? or a grave stone inscription anywhere. Kind Regards Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "janine h" <jhinton@westnet.com.au> To: <sct-edinburgh@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 2:34 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] Stewart family of Leith > > Hi Margaret, > > Unfortunately I don't have Elizabeth's maiden name. I need to find the > marriage certificate to obtain that. > > Cheers > Janine > > -----Original Message----- > From: sct-edinburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:sct-edinburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Margaret O' > Donnell > Sent: Monday, 29 December 2008 10:08 PM > To: sct-edinburgh@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] Stewart family of Leith > > > Hello Janine, > Are you able to give Elizabeth's maiden name ? > The Stewart family were listed on the passenger list of The Duchess of > Northumberland which left London on Tuesday 6th Aug. 1839 and it arrived > at > Port Misery South Australia 19th Nov. 1839 ( I just googled it ) > Kind Regards > Margaret > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "janine h" <jhinton@westnet.com.au> > To: <SCT-EDINBURGH@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 8:41 AM > Subject: [SCT-EDINBURGH] Stewart family of Leith > > >> >> >> Hi listers, >> >> Have just joined hoping for some help with this brick wall. >> >> Alexander Stewart and his wife Elizabeth and their four children >> immigrated >> to South Australia as free passengers. They sailed on the Duchess of >> Northumberland and arrived in SA on 17.12.39. Alexander was supposedly >> 33 >> (he had to be under 35 to be accepted) and Elizabeth was supposedly 29. >> Their children were son 13, daughter 11, son 9 and daughter 7. This >> makes >> them very young parents !! >> >> Anyway the records here state that he was a Shepherd in Leith however I >> have >> been unable to find a marriage for them and being from Western Australia, >> I'm not even sure I'm looking in the right place. I believe Leith is >> now >> part of Edinburgh. Just need some advice please as to where I can find >> a >> marriage for these two people, whether there are online records or a >> transcript agent who could help.. The children's names are Elizabeth, >> Donald and Jessy. Haven't found the name of the fourth child. >> >> Cheers and thanks >> Janine >> Halls Creek WA >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SCT-EDINBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-EDINBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.1/1867 - Release Date: > 12/28/2008 > 2:23 PM > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-EDINBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Also - Janine, you say the record shows he was a shepherd in Leith. This seems a bit unlikely... what is the actual wording of this? I'm speculating that they may have been only briefly in Leith, perhaps to catch the boat to London... Should warn you, however, that given the time of these births in the 1820s and 30s, it's quite possible that they were not recorded. Can you match the ages of the children to their names, as that might help? Jenny >That is a pity makes things difficult. >Family Search (LDS) has 2 marriages for an Alexander Stewart and - a - >Elizabeth between the years 1806. + or - 2 years in Midlothian based on the >dates and ages you have given. >One Elizabeth (Purvis), I have discounted her because she had a child in >1843 in Edinburgh, the other Elizabeth is a Ferguson her father is named >Dugald Ferguson. Without other proof I would not accept this either. >The - Church of Scotland - OPR's are on line at Scotlands people. >Do you know what church they attended if any ? >Do you have any Marriage or Death certificates for any of their children in >Australia which may list their mothers maiden name ? or a grave stone >inscription anywhere. >Kind Regards >Margaret >----- Original Message ----- >From: "janine h" <jhinton@westnet.com.au> >To: <sct-edinburgh@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 2:34 PM >Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] Stewart family of Leith > > >> >> Hi Margaret, >> >> Unfortunately I don't have Elizabeth's maiden name. I need to find the >> marriage certificate to obtain that. >> >> Cheers > > Janine

Hi Jenny, The information was from Adelaide Proformat who had looked up the 1836-1941 Emigrant Register. It reads as follows: quote: Application Number 4624 Agent : Adamson Date ; 13 April 1839 Name : Stewart Alex Occupation: Shepherd Address: Leith Status Married Age 33 Spouse age 29 Children 2 sons aged 13 and 9, two daus age 11, 7 Embarkation No 3230 The details are for the voyage 39/53 Duchess of Northumberland arr SA 17 Dec 1839 from London. end quote The children were Elizabeth, the oldest girl, Jessy the youngest girl, and Donald was one of the sons, have never found the name of the other son. He is not mentioned with the family in the SA 1841 census, so I'm guessing he must have died sometime in 1840 or 41. Cheers Janine

Hi Margaret Thanks for the info you've provided, it's much appreciated. The South Australian records do not contain a lot of information unfortunately. I have the marriage certificate of daughter Elizabeth to Charles King (1855), but there is no column for parents' names on it. .One Elizabeth (Purvis), I have discounted her because she had a child in 1843 in Edinburgh, the other Elizabeth is a Ferguson her father is named Dugald Ferguson. Without other proof I would not accept this either. The - Church of Scotland - OPR's are on line at Scotlands people. Do you know what church they attended if any ? Do you have any Marriage or Death certificates for any of their children in Australia which may list their mothers maiden name ? or a grave stone inscription anywhere. Kind Regards Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "janine h" <jhinton@westnet.com.au> To: <sct-edinburgh@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 2:34 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] Stewart family of Leith > > Hi Margaret, > > Unfortunately I don't have Elizabeth's maiden name. I need to find the > marriage certificate to obtain that. > > Cheers > Janine > > -----Original Message----- > From: sct-edinburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:sct-edinburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Margaret O' > Donnell > Sent: Monday, 29 December 2008 10:08 PM > To: sct-edinburgh@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] Stewart family of Leith > > > Hello Janine, > Are you able to give Elizabeth's maiden name ? > The Stewart family were listed on the passenger list of The Duchess of > Northumberland which left London on Tuesday 6th Aug. 1839 and it arrived > at > Port Misery South Australia 19th Nov. 1839 ( I just googled it ) > Kind Regards > Margaret > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "janine h" <jhinton@westnet.com.au> > To: <SCT-EDINBURGH@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 8:41 AM > Subject: [SCT-EDINBURGH] Stewart family of Leith > > >> >> >> Hi listers, >> >> Have just joined hoping for some help with this brick wall. >> >> Alexander Stewart and his wife Elizabeth and their four children >> immigrated >> to South Australia as free passengers. They sailed on the Duchess of >> Northumberland and arrived in SA on 17.12.39. Alexander was supposedly >> 33 >> (he had to be under 35 to be accepted) and Elizabeth was supposedly 29. >> Their children were son 13, daughter 11, son 9 and daughter 7. This >> makes >> them very young parents !! >> >> Anyway the records here state that he was a Shepherd in Leith however I >> have >> been unable to find a marriage for them and being from Western Australia, >> I'm not even sure I'm looking in the right place. I believe Leith is >> now >> part of Edinburgh. Just need some advice please as to where I can find >> a >> marriage for these two people, whether there are online records or a >> transcript agent who could help.. The children's names are Elizabeth, >> Donald and Jessy. Haven't found the name of the fourth child. >> >> Cheers and thanks >> Janine >> Halls Creek WA >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SCT-EDINBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-EDINBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.1/1867 - Release Date: > 12/28/2008 > 2:23 PM > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-EDINBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-EDINBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.1/1867 - Release Date: 12/28/2008 2:23 PM

Sorry Margaret and listers, that email didn't get finished. As I mentioned the SA records aren't forthcoming with info. I don't know what church they belonged to. I'll have to get later certificates of the other kids to see if they have further information. I'm still to locate their graves here in SA. There is only one death of an Alexander Stewart in the registrations 1842 to 1915 and that was at 'Woodlands' which I think is the Glenelg area here is SA. So I'll follow that up and see where it leads. Cheers and thanks Janine.

sorry meant to say 1826 + or - 2 years given the years and ages of the children ----- Original Message ----- From: "janine h" <jhinton@westnet.com.au> To: <sct-edinburgh@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 2:34 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] Stewart family of Leith