I'll leave you to decide if this is the same family from 1871 to 1901. The children seem to match but there is a move from the centre of town down to Leith for 1901 and apparently a return to an old occupation. If it IS them, then there are loads of children to check out. Robert T born c1889 should be easy enough to check via Scotlandspeople because of the middle initial. David on the other hand makes his appearance 8 months before the 1881 census, which might be even better. This would be a starting point for finding marriages, deaths etc for the others and with luck confirming that this is one family and that its the right Maggie. Judy There's an age discrepancy but this could be the WILSONs in 1891 William Wilson Age: 46 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Margaret Gender: Male Where born: Edinburgh Registration Number: 685/3 Registration district: Canongate Civil Parish: Edinburgh Old Church County: Midlothian Address: 4 Chessels Ct Occupation: Insurance Agent ED: 89 Household schedule number: 14a Line: 11 Roll: CSSCT1891_349 Household Members: Name Age David Wilson 10 John Wilson 19 Margaret Wilson 45 Margaret Wilson 13 Robert Wilson 2 Thomas Wilson 7 William Wilson 46 William Wilson 22 Then 1881 William Wilson Age: 36 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Margaret Gender: Male Where born: Canongate, Edinburghshire Registration Number: 685/3 Registration district: Canongate Civil Parish: Canongate County: Midlothian Occupation: Gramway Labourer [presumably that's tramway???] ED: 88 Household schedule number: 40 Line: 17 Roll: cssct1881_288 Household Members: Name Age Annie Wilson 14 David Wilson 8 Mo John Wilson 9 Margaret Wilson 36 Margaret Wilson 3 William Wilson 36 William Wilson 12 Then a possible match in 1871 William Wilson Age: 26 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Margret Gender: Male Where born: Edinburgh Registration Number: 685/5 Registration district: Newington Civil Parish: Edinburgh St Cuthberts County: Midlothian Address: 3 East Richmond St Occupation: Corkcutter ED: 19 Household schedule number: 23 Line: 14 Roll: CSSCT1871_165 Household Members: Name Age Annie Wilson 4 Jane Wilson 7 Margret Wilson 26 William Wilson 26 William Wilson 2 Is this the same family 30 years later in 1901? Different area, back to being a cork cutter? William Wilson Age: 56 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Margert Gender: Male Where born: Edinburgh, Midlothian Registration Number: 692/2 Registration district: Leith South Civil Parish: Leith South Town: Leith County: Midlothian Address: 37 Cables Wynd Occupation: Cork Cutter ED: 33 Household schedule number: 26 Line: 10 Roll: CSSCT1901_402 Household Members: Name Age Margert Wilson 55 Robert T Wilson 12 William Wilson 56
Hi Judy, thanks for your reply and input. I have that 1891 census, as it was the only census I found with William Wilson, Insurance Agent. I have also checked the children's names on the IGI and ScotlandsPeople. With too many William's & Margaret's marrying in the time frame, it's difficult what couple I choose, without Margaret's mum's maiden name. I forgot to add that in 1900, when she married, her age is 26 & Arthur is 30. That would make her birth 1873/4-ish. I have spent a bit of money on ScotlandsPeople looking around this date - but am still stumped. The GRO cannot help me because I don't know the mother's surname. Any further ideas would be welcome. Thanks again. Regards Brian. judy olsen <copywriter@tesco.net> wrote: I'll leave you to decide if this is the same family from 1871 to 1901. The children seem to match but there is a move from the centre of town down to Leith for 1901 and apparently a return to an old occupation. If it IS them, then there are loads of children to check out. Robert T born c1889 should be easy enough to check via Scotlandspeople because of the middle initial. David on the other hand makes his appearance 8 months before the 1881 census, which might be even better. This would be a starting point for finding marriages, deaths etc for the others and with luck confirming that this is one family and that its the right Maggie. Judy
If William Wilson, insurance agent, from the 1891 census is yours then here he is on the 1871 and 1881 census. The occupations for William are different but it certainly is/was not unusual for people to change jobs. I doubt you'll find any entries that match all of the family as well as these do when it comes to names, ages and places of birth matching up. 1881 census - Canongate, Edinburgh William Wilson, head, age: 36, occupation: Gramway Labourer, born: Canongate, Edinburgh Margaret Wilson, wife, age: 36, born: Canongate, Edinburgh Annie Wilson, daughter, age: 14, occupation: Paper Ruler, Machine Girl, born: Newington, Edinburgh William Wilson, son, age: 12, born: Dalkeith, Edinburgh John Wilson, son, age: 9, born: Lady Yester's, Edinburgh Margaret Wilson, daughter, age: 3, born: So Leith, Edinburgh David Wilson, son, age: 8 months, born: Canongate, Edinburgh 1871 census - 3 East Richmond St, Newington, Edinburgh William Wilson, head, age: 26, occupation: Corkcutter, born: Edinburgh Margret Wilson, wife, age: 26, born: Edinburgh Jane Wilson, daughter, age: 7, born: Edinburgh Annie Wilson, daughter, age: 4, born: Edinburgh William Wilson, son, age: 2, born: Cheith*, Edinburgh *mistranscribed in database - you would have to check the original to see if it says Dalkeith or Leith or something else. As luck would have it, there was only one William Wilson born between 1868 and 1870 in Dalkeith. Here are the details from his birth: William Wilson, born 13 Aug 1868 at Scotts Close, Dalkeith to William Wilson, cork cutter and Margaret Wilson, maiden surname Mills. Their marriage date is listed on the certificate as 11 Jul 1862 in Edinburgh. William Wilson, father, was the informant. Further confirmation, there is a death registration for Margaret Wilson, married to William Wilson, insurance agent, who died 16 Mar 1915 in North Leith. Her parents are listed as Alexander Mills, joiner (deceased) and Annie Mills, maiden surname Robertson (deceased). William Wilson, widower is the informant. Jacquie Winnipeg, MB Canada -----Original Message----- From: sct-edinburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sct-edinburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of brian ware Sent: November 10, 2008 1:11 PM To: sct-edinburgh@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] Margaret WILSON Hi Judy, thanks for your reply and input. I have that 1891 census, as it was the only census I found with William Wilson, Insurance Agent. I have also checked the children's names on the IGI and ScotlandsPeople. With too many William's & Margaret's marrying in the time frame, it's difficult what couple I choose, without Margaret's mum's maiden name. I forgot to add that in 1900, when she married, her age is 26 & Arthur is 30. That would make her birth 1873/4-ish. I have spent a bit of money on ScotlandsPeople looking around this date - but am still stumped. The GRO cannot help me because I don't know the mother's surname. Any further ideas would be welcome. Thanks again. Regards Brian.
I'm not sure if my response on this has been lost in cyberspace or something since it hasn't appeared by so I'll repost what I had. Going off Judy's census information (which I agree is the same family), I found the following birth registration for William Wilson who is listed with the family on the 1871, 1881 and 1891 census. Here's the information: William Wilson, born 13 Aug 1868 at Scotts Close, Dalkeith to William Wilson, cork cutter and Margaret Wilson, maiden surname Mills. Their marriage date is listed on the certificate as 11 Jul 1862 in Edinburgh. William Wilson, father, was the informant. Also, there is a death registration for Margaret Wilson, married to William Wilson, insurance agent, who died 16 Mar 1915 in North Leith. Her parents are listed as Alexander Mills, joiner (deceased) and Annie Mills, maiden surname Robertson (deceased). William Wilson, widower is the informant. Jacquie Winnipeg, MB Canada
Hi Jacquie, Thanks for your 3 replies and the 2 copies you sent. I did think of Margaret Mills being Margaret Wilson's mother. It's working out the ages and years that have me confused. As I said to Judy, she may have lied about her age at marriage. But, the Arthur & Maggie fits in with what family details I have. I suppose it's just possible there may be two Arthur & Maggies. I'll keep all the info you sent and go through it again and re-check what details I have. Kind Regards, Brian. Jacquie <jjjcmj@mts.net> wrote: I'm not sure if my response on this has been lost in cyberspace or something since it hasn't appeared by so I'll repost what I had. Going off Judy's census information (which I agree is the same family), I found the following birth registration for William Wilson who is listed with the family on the 1871, 1881 and 1891 census. Here's the information: William Wilson, born 13 Aug 1868 at Scotts Close, Dalkeith to William Wilson, cork cutter and Margaret Wilson, maiden surname Mills. Their marriage date is listed on the certificate as 11 Jul 1862 in Edinburgh. William Wilson, father, was the informant. Also, there is a death registration for Margaret Wilson, married to William Wilson, insurance agent, who died 16 Mar 1915 in North Leith. Her parents are listed as Alexander Mills, joiner (deceased) and Annie Mills, maiden surname Robertson (deceased). William Wilson, widower is the informant. Jacquie Winnipeg, MB Canada ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-EDINBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message