Hi Ron Further to your email and a message from Jacquie of Winnipeg. Looks like she wasn't officially married to Joseph Gillespie. I have had a quick look in www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk and there is a result for a marriage between 1890and 1895 for a John Burgess and a Georgina Spence. I'd have a look at that certificate. In addition "common Law" marriage was not uncommon. See below. Until recently in Scotland, there was a form of common law marriage called 'marriage by cohabitation with habit and repute'. The theory behind this law was that if a man and woman cohabited as husband and wife in Scotland for sufficient time and were generally held and reputed to be husband and wife and were free to marry each other, they would be presumed to have consented to marry each other and if this presumption was not overturned, they would be considered to be legally married. This form of common law marriage has now been abolished by the Family Law (Scotland) Act 2006 which came into force on 4 May 2006. Cheers Ella Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Brown" <suenron@southwest.com.au> To: <sct-edinburgh@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 3:34 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] Gillespie surname > Hi Ella, > > I wish Ella! I have not been able to find a marriage for Gillespie & > Burgess. On her death Registration from ScotlandsPeople it lists her given > name as Georgina Ballantyne Gillespie, underneath in brackets it says > "otherwise Burgess" widow of John Francis Burgess. > > I'm not sure if I'm being too pedantic but id hate to be going down the > wrong path. > > Thanks > Ron > -----Original Message----- > From: sct-edinburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:sct-edinburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ella Ross > Sent: Monday, 24 November 2008 1:14 PM > To: sct-edinburgh@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] Gillespie surname > > Hi Ron > I wouldn't be too bothered about the age on the 1901 census being out by 3 > years. It could be a transcription error or deliberate on the part of the > person involved. If it was someone else who filled in the census they may > have been mistaken about her exact age. > > Anything on a death certificate has been given by the informant. They may > ar may not have deliberately omitted some details. > > Have you found a marriage certificate for her with Burgess and with > Gillespie? > > Cheers > Ella Ross > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ron Brown" <suenron@southwest.com.au> > To: <sct-edinburgh@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 2:31 PM > Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] Gillespie surname > > >> Hi Jacquie, I do have that death registration for my great grandmother >> thanks. The problem I have is trying to prove that it is she who is on >> the >> 1901 census living with a Joseph Gillespie in North Leith. All the info >> on >> the census looks good except Georgina's age is out by 3 years >> >> If she had left her first husband John Francis Burgess and lived with >> Joseph >> Gillespie around 1900 would it have been normal to list on her death >> registration in 1951 as 'widow of John Francis Burgess'. >> >> Thanks >> Ron >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sct-edinburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:sct-edinburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jacquie >> Sent: Monday, 24 November 2008 11:24 AM >> To: sct-edinburgh@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] Gillespie surname >> >> At ScotlandsPeople there is a death registration for a Georgina >> Gillespie, >> other surnames Burges and >> Spence dated 1951 in Leith. She was 81. You can view the image at the >> site. >> >> Jacquie >> Winnipeg, MB >> Canada >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sct-edinburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:sct-edinburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of >> Ron Brown >> Sent: November 23, 2008 7:51 PM >> To: Edinburgh email list >> Subject: [SCT-EDINBURGH] Gillespie surname >> >> Hello, >> >> I believe my great grandmother Georgina Ballantyne Spence/Burgess may >> have >> lived with a man named Joseph Gillespie in North Leith around 1900. I >> have >> located a similar family on the 1901 census but need to prove correct or >> otherwise. >> >> Thanks >> >> Ron >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SCT-EDINBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SCT-EDINBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-EDINBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-EDINBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message