Hello Judy, Many thanks for your continued interest and help. At the risk of being tedious here are the details of the 1881 census. Address 4 Dunlop St, Kilmarnock, Ayr. William Campbell Occ: Nailer Age 50 Born Cramond, Edinburgh, Scotland. Bridget Wife Nailer's Wife Age 41 " Co Lough, Ireland Margaret O Neil (Campbell) Step Dau, Millworker Age 15 Born Kilmarnock, Ayr, " " Mary Campbell Dau Scholar Age 10 " " " " " " Helen Campbell Dau Scholar Age 6 " Obviously Bridget was a widow. I don't have any death or marriage certs. for William, and neither do I know how to go about getting them. My skills as a genealogist are not remarkable. It is interesting to note that William's youngest daughter is named Helen, perhaps after Helen Cleophane. My grandmother must have placed great store on the name Campbell, as she gave all her 3 children the second name of Campbell. My grandfather Henry was killed in 1900 in a mining accident. At my grandmother's marriage 1895 to Henry Morrison, (my grandfather) William gave his trade as a blacksmith Steve