Beth: Black, in "The Surnames of Scotland," shows the two names as quite distinct. On the other hand, he mentions the "clan Teir [McIntyre]." I would suggest you use the IGI as a source of clues, but don't put a lot of trust in the data. I've seen some whopping errors in it. Richard Robertson richrob4@home.com http://members.home.net/richrob4/index.htm