Thankyou to the lister who answered my query regarding my Rutherford family in Edinburgh, 1860's onwards. However they did not post their name so I'll just say hello, The following is all that I have so far:- John Rutherford was born 1831/32 (his birth/christening, I have been unable to locate so far) possibly at Maxton, Roxburghshire. He is living with his parents, Robert Rutherford and Elisabeth Oliver at 29 Thistle Street Edinburgh for the 1861 census, aged 29 yrs and his occupation is listed as a Joiner. John married Isabella Sinclair 24th July 1862 at 24 East cramond Street, Edinburgh after banns according to the terms of the church of Scotland. Isabella Sinclair was a daughter of Alexander Sinclair and Christian Swanson. John and Issabella were to have 9 children. Elizabeth b 28.3.1863 Christina b 27.6.1864 Robert b 24.4.1866 d 1939 (?) Helen Oliver b28.2.1868 Alexander b26.3.1870 John b 30.1.1872 George Oliver b 28.3.1874 d 1875 Isabella b 1876 William b1879 John Rutherford died 26 June 1880 at 58 Broughton Street Edinburgh. Bessie Rutherford his daughter was the informant on his death certificate. John's father Robert, also died in 1880 on the 15th Feb. at N. Brunsfield Place, Edinburgh. Isabella Rutherford nee Sinclair is listed in the 1881 census for Edinburgh as the head and widow and living at 58 Broughton Street. The children listed that night were , Bessie, Christina, Robert, Alexander, John, Isabella, and William. Their daughter Helen was with her Uncle, Oliver Rutherford and his wife Mary on that night. I have not looked up this line of my family in the 1891 census and I am not sure where John and his father Robert were buried. This is all that I have on this branch of my family tree. I would love to hear from the lister who answered my listing and also if there are any descendants from this family out there or anyone researching this family. Regards, from a very unusual warm Christchurch (for a change), Dianne Dixon, New Zealand.