Hello All !! > > Looking for a John McCombie with wife Elspeth Campbell, > approximately the > year 1685 at the birth of Bl--k McComb and a twin brother ?? McCombie. As > documented, it would sound simple to conclude that they are the John and > Elspeth of Forter but this is impossible !! for "that" John died 9 years > before these twins birth. > > Strangely enough I have found another John McCombie b. 1661 > Antrim Ireland, > also having a wife by the name of Elspeth Campbell, and also > having the same > children Bl--k McComb and ?? McCombie. > > I have 2 different documents, 2 different John McCombie and Elspeth > Campbell's, both saying that they are the parents of the disputed > children"Bl--k McComb and ?? McCombie, so where do I go from > here? There is > a tradition that the frase "Bl--k" could stand for Black and this > perticular > persons real name was Thomas. Either way Im still a > McCombie. Thankyou for your help. > > Jeff McComb-Southern California >THE PHK !!! > > The PHK is a book written by PHK McComb(Peter Hathaway Kemper McComb) and > Virginia McComb between c.1912-1942. > My grandfathers generation is the last to be listed.(1920's) It has a > descendency line all the way back too John McComy Mor and wife > Janet Rattray > given Charter at Abotshall,about 1568 . It says that Thomas, fifth > son of Ian Mor, OR Thomas, son of William, grandson of Donald, > son of Iain > Mor of Forter, migrated > through Antrim Ireland before 1732 with 2 sons, registered as Bl---k(2) > McComb. He had 4 sons total. > James,John,William and Robert. I am a descendent of Robert. > Bl---k(2) had one > brother, ? McCombie, who had one son John taking the name Macomb. > John Macomb > had > two sons and one daughter. He came to America in about 1755 with his wife > Jane Gordon and their 3 children.Alexander,William and Ann. They > had resided > in Dunturkey,Ballynure,Antrim County, Ireland from1685-1755. > Cousins to the > McCombs > (Bl---k)(2) that came earlier. > > The PHK also states this perticular Thomas who is registered as > "Bl---K(2) > McComb" and his brother > "? McCombie," their father is known as "William" and grandfather "Sir > Thomas." > What "Sir Thomas" it is referring to I dont think anyone knows. > Im not sure > if Donald would have been old enough to be a grandfather at that > time.(1685). > That only leaves Thomas the 9th chief. The McComb book states that his > parents were John McCombie and Elspet Campbell of Forter, "BUT" there > were other > John McCombies and Elspet Campbell's as well which I have > marriage records of > all (Ancestry.com)if they are accurate. There were about 70+ or so Elspet > Campbell's, about the right time(1685) a few married to > a John McComie(bie), one being (Ian Mor) John McComie of Forter. > (I must keep > that in mind).Also he has used many different names, besides the Gailic > versions like Iain Mor, hes often shown as John Macintosh, John > McComie, John > McCombie, John McComy Mor and a few others. I'm sure all the men > had a few > spellings back then. Spelling wasn't one of their biggest concerns. > > In the PHK, if you look at Alexander, "Iain Mor's father",the 7th > chief, his > other name is > also > Bl---k(1). That might add to the conclusion. Bl---k(2) McComb (my > chain) came > > to America through Delaware, Maryland before 1732 with a few of his > sons. After some more shipments came (cousins etc)we then spread out, one > place > being McCombs Fort.(Penn,New York, > Virginia) First there were Indians, then the Revolutionary War, then the > Indians again, then the Civil War, then the Indians again. They were > true Pilgrims! Some going into early Congressional and other > early government > military positions > > I sent along a link to a partial copy of the PHK and the Gustin > book, along > with 7 other Macomb files so you can check it out. It is in no way a full > copy > of the PHK but it still has some jewels. "The Ancestry of John S. > Gustin" is > also great. You will > need Acrobat Reader or > Word to read them. I dont think my friend will mind. There is also more > updated > info after these files. This website belongs too > my friend Murray McCombs. <A > HREF="http://www.interlog.com/~mmccombs/McCPDF/McCPDF.html">McComb > PDF > <---AOL users > > http://www.interlog.com/~mmccombs/McCPDF/McCPDF.html > > > The PHK has never been proven, actually proven. Its credability is > being challenged by myself and some others. The meat of the > argument is the > arrival dates into America. An late US Census about 1790, shows > them about > 360 heads > or so from the age 16 and up(males). From that point it seems > accurate. When > they arrived and prior to the > arrivals, which it states the Chieftains family is also questionable. Its > main > objective is too inspire further search on the McComb surname, > wich can be > from from several different clans. > MacKintosh/McColm/McComb-MacKintosh/MacThomas/McComb(bie)-MacAllum /Malcolm/McComb and a few others I believe. Any more please correct me. > Campbell and Gunn > are possibilities I have read somewhere as well " I believe". Any > leads in my > direction please send my way. > > Nothing is > trying to be proven by this register. Hopefully the validity of > it can still > proven through further search. > > Jeff McComb > >