In my wife's family there is a Nettie RATCLIFFE born in Scotland. Is Nettie a given name or a nickname? If a nickname, what is the right name? Bob

Hi, John and Jacquie are so right. I was looking for a marriage of Thomas Gibson and Ann Barton (as it said on his son Alexander's birth) but nothing would come up on LDS or SP. I ended up just putting in Thomas Gibson. And his marriage came up to Agnes Burton. So a very good example to try everything Cheers Marilyn

go to where it says Browse Scanned Pages then find the account for Colinton - the earlier one dated around 1791. J On 16 Oct 2008, at 11:48, Watson Family wrote: > Hi Judy, > Is it free log in? becuase that's what come up. You have to > log in > Cheers marilyn > > > At 08:45 PM 16/10/2008, you wrote: >> http://stat-acc-scot.edina.ac.uk/link/1791-99/Edinburgh/Colinton/ >> 19/590/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 16 Oct 2008, at 11:56, judy olsen wrote: >> >>> There seem to be two words there - second one looks like 'milne'. I >>> am wondering if this was a wa(u)lk mill. >>> >>> >>> Judy >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 16 Oct 2008, at 11:12, CandROverson wrote: >>> >>>>> Thomas Young in Collinton >>>>> Walk?? >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-EDINBURGH- >>> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SCT-EDINBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-EDINBURGH- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Marilyn All I can say is that it isn't Bonnyrigg. It looks like Br-gh--o(r?). I really don't know. Could be the name of a long lost farm. Sorry. Rhoda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Watson Family" <watsonb@iinet.com.au> To: <sct-edinburgh@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 10:11 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] Re Marriage fee Dollars? > Hi Rhoda, > Thanks for that. would you like to see the marriage original? > cheers Marilyn > > > > At 07:12 PM 16/10/2008, you wrote: >>"Bonyh.." could be Bonnyrigg. >> >>Rhoda >> >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Watson Family" <watsonb@iinet.com.au> >>To: <sct-edinburgh@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 8:50 AM >>Subject: [SCT-EDINBURGH] Re Marriage fee Dollars? >> >> >> > Hi, >> > More questions. With help from Jacquie who once again came to my aid >> > in >> > trying to decipher a marriage in 1701. >> > "This David Gibson son of Archibald Gibson in Bonyh?? in this parish >> > of >> > Lasswade and Agnes Young in this parish dau of Thomas Young in >> > Collinton >> > Walk?? >> > gave up their bans matrimonial to be intimate in this church according >> > to >> > order and signed...... (what looks like dollars??) in the clerk or >> > church >> > hands they were married April 26 .They ... (what looks like dollars >> > again) >> > Jan 30 1701" >> > Anyone that wants to check the original let me know and I'll email it >> > Would appreciate your help re the place in Lasswade and the dollars?? >> > cheers Marilyn >> > Woodcarvings and Wildlife Sculptures >> > http://www.watsonwoodcarver.com >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > SCT-EDINBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> > the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>SCT-EDINBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-EDINBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Meg, you seem to be doing a great service.  Could you look up two for me: 11/12/1846 ALEXANDER GEORGE ANN MURRAY/FR2432 12/10/1846 LEADBETTER CHARLES CATHERINE BURNET/FR2419 Many thanks Joanne

http://stat-acc-scot.edina.ac.uk/link/1791-99/Edinburgh/Colinton/19/590/ On 16 Oct 2008, at 11:56, judy olsen wrote: > There seem to be two words there - second one looks like 'milne'. I > am wondering if this was a wa(u)lk mill. > > > Judy > > > > > On 16 Oct 2008, at 11:12, CandROverson wrote: > >>> Thomas Young in Collinton >>> Walk?? > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-EDINBURGH- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

There seem to be two words there - second one looks like 'milne'. I am wondering if this was a wa(u)lk mill. Judy On 16 Oct 2008, at 11:12, CandROverson wrote: >> Thomas Young in Collinton >> Walk??

Marilyn Yes, ok. Rhoda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Watson Family" <watsonb@iinet.com.au> To: <sct-edinburgh@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 10:11 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] Re Marriage fee Dollars? > Hi Rhoda, > Thanks for that. would you like to see the marriage original? > cheers Marilyn > > > > At 07:12 PM 16/10/2008, you wrote: >>"Bonyh.." could be Bonnyrigg. >> >>Rhoda >> >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Watson Family" <watsonb@iinet.com.au> >>To: <sct-edinburgh@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 8:50 AM >>Subject: [SCT-EDINBURGH] Re Marriage fee Dollars? >> >> >> > Hi, >> > More questions. With help from Jacquie who once again came to my aid >> > in >> > trying to decipher a marriage in 1701. >> > "This David Gibson son of Archibald Gibson in Bonyh?? in this parish >> > of >> > Lasswade and Agnes Young in this parish dau of Thomas Young in >> > Collinton >> > Walk?? >> > gave up their bans matrimonial to be intimate in this church according >> > to >> > order and signed...... (what looks like dollars??) in the clerk or >> > church >> > hands they were married April 26 .They ... (what looks like dollars >> > again) >> > Jan 30 1701" >> > Anyone that wants to check the original let me know and I'll email it >> > Would appreciate your help re the place in Lasswade and the dollars?? >> > cheers Marilyn >> > Woodcarvings and Wildlife Sculptures >> > http://www.watsonwoodcarver.com >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > SCT-EDINBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> > the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>SCT-EDINBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-EDINBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

"Bonyh.." could be Bonnyrigg. Rhoda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Watson Family" <watsonb@iinet.com.au> To: <sct-edinburgh@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 8:50 AM Subject: [SCT-EDINBURGH] Re Marriage fee Dollars? > Hi, > More questions. With help from Jacquie who once again came to my aid in > trying to decipher a marriage in 1701. > "This David Gibson son of Archibald Gibson in Bonyh?? in this parish of > Lasswade and Agnes Young in this parish dau of Thomas Young in Collinton > Walk?? > gave up their bans matrimonial to be intimate in this church according to > order and signed...... (what looks like dollars??) in the clerk or church > hands they were married April 26 .They ... (what looks like dollars again) > Jan 30 1701" > Anyone that wants to check the original let me know and I'll email it > Would appreciate your help re the place in Lasswade and the dollars?? > cheers Marilyn > Woodcarvings and Wildlife Sculptures > http://www.watsonwoodcarver.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-EDINBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Have seen a few questions re cemeteries and was wondering if anyone has read the different cemeteries and posted them anywhere for us to view? One of the cemeteries is Comely Bank Cemetery I'm interested in. Bob

Dollars might in fact be correct: http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/content/help/index.aspx?r=551&423 Judy On 16 Oct 2008, at 08:50, Watson Family wrote: > Hi, > More questions. With help from Jacquie who once again came to my > aid in > trying to decipher a marriage in 1701. > "This David Gibson son of Archibald Gibson in Bonyh?? in this > parish of > Lasswade and Agnes Young in this parish dau of Thomas Young in > Collinton Walk?? > gave up their bans matrimonial to be intimate in this church > according to > order and signed...... (what looks like dollars??) in the clerk or > church > hands they were married April 26 .They ... (what looks like dollars > again) > Jan 30 1701" > Anyone that wants to check the original let me know and I'll email it > Would appreciate your help re the place in Lasswade and the dollars?? > cheers Marilyn > Woodcarvings and Wildlife Sculptures > http://www.watsonwoodcarver.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-EDINBURGH- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Hi John I couldn't agree with you more. I have a marriage certificate with two spellings of the groom's name QUINN and then with one "n" QUIN. Mind boggles. Ella Ross (my surname is shortened from Rossenblatz more than a century ago) ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Stevenson" <johndee.ships@btinternet.com> To: <sct-edinburgh@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 1:32 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] Marriage on SP > Good afternoon all , > May I just pick up on an excellent point made by Jacquie ? > > I have worked as a professional researcher on Scottish Maritime History > for > nearly twenty years and for eleven years have been a "Volunteer Helper" at > SGS , Family History Centre and Library, Edinburgh. > One of the most contentious things I come across is the number of people > , > working on their family history, who will not accept that they are almost > inevitably going to find numerous spellings of their name as they know it > today . > Many , for some reason mostly from USA , simply refuse to accept that > there > are variations in name spellings > We have members researching NAPIER with twenty three variations back to > early 17thC , McFADZEAN with nineteen variations in the same time frame . > Monday past we had a visitor researching PATERSON in Leith . In the 1851 > census the birth place of the "head of the > house " was given as "Berwick,Berwick" . > No trace of him could be found in Berwickshire OPR's under any variation > so > we tried Berwick , Northumberland . > No trace again so we tried PATTERSON - there he was as was his father , > gfather et al. > A new door was opened up by simply using variations. > ( He wasn't too chuffed at having English forbears !!!!!!!! ) > > Same thing applies to given names - use variations !! > > Moral is never give up - remember "a name is a name is a name " > > Good luck with your searches > Regards > John > > John D. Stevenson > Edinburgh > > > > >> Marilyn, the LDS entry that was extracted from local records had it >> spelled Allexander - with a >> double "L". There is an entry at SP regarding the marriage of Allexander >> Gibson and Rabina Bogie >> dated 16 Nov 1765. >> >> By the way, there is a birth/baptism entry in the OPR for a son named >> William Gibson dated 25 Nov >> 1768 where Alexander's forename was spelled with a double "L" as well. He >> might had died in infancy >> since I see there was another William Gibson born to Alexander Gibson and >> Rabina Bogie in 1774. >> >> Jacquie >> Winnipeg, MB >> Canada >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-EDINBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.0/1724 - Release Date: 10/14/2008 2:02 AM

They seem to get about a bit. I checked out George the younger (d Markinch, cork cutter) and he seems fairly consistent that he was born in Haddingtonshire. He seems to give farm names too altho these are difficult to interpret from the Ancestry index. I was wondering what your sources were as at first sight it doesnt look like all the same family. Judy PS if you cross post like this a lot of people will get bounced messages because they hit reply all. Plus, they will not see all the replies so you wont get a coherent linear discussion. On 16 Oct 2008, at 04:07, Carolyn Prellwitz wrote: > George JACK, a bank porter, married Christian LOGAN 1 July 1800 in > Edinburgh. Christian's father was an ale labourer in Tranent. > They had at > least 5 children: > - Christian JACK, born 26 Jan 1801 in Durness, Sutherland > - Margaret JACK, born 3 May 1803 in Tranent, Haddington, East Lothian > - Robina JACK, born 7 April 1805 in Tranent, Haddington, East Lothian > - William Graham JACK, born 18 January 1807 in Haddington, East > Lothian > - George JACK, born 25 April 1808 in Daviot, Aberdeen; died 15 Jul > 1885 in > Markinch > > While I have full BMD and census details on the youngest son, I > have been > unable to discover any birth/death/burial/siblings/census details > for the > parents, or any marriage/death/burial/census details for the four > older > children. Am willing to share findings to date with anyone else > researching > this family. > > Carolyn > Canada > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-EDINBURGH- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Well said John, we have to be open minded when researching. Sandy (Tasmania) ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Stevenson" <johndee.ships@btinternet.com> To: <sct-edinburgh@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 1:32 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] Marriage on SP > Good afternoon all , > May I just pick up on an excellent point made by Jacquie ? > > I have worked as a professional researcher on Scottish Maritime History > for > nearly twenty years and for eleven years have been a "Volunteer Helper" at > SGS , Family History Centre and Library, Edinburgh. > One of the most contentious things I come across is the number of people > , > working on their family history, who will not accept that they are almost > inevitably going to find numerous spellings of their name as they know it > today . > Many , for some reason mostly from USA , simply refuse to accept that > there > are variations in name spellings > We have members researching NAPIER with twenty three variations back to > early 17thC , McFADZEAN with nineteen variations in the same time frame . > Monday past we had a visitor researching PATERSON in Leith . In the 1851 > census the birth place of the "head of the > house " was given as "Berwick,Berwick" . > No trace of him could be found in Berwickshire OPR's under any variation > so > we tried Berwick , Northumberland . > No trace again so we tried PATTERSON - there he was as was his father , > gfather et al. > A new door was opened up by simply using variations. > ( He wasn't too chuffed at having English forbears !!!!!!!! ) > > Same thing applies to given names - use variations !! > > Moral is never give up - remember "a name is a name is a name " > > Good luck with your searches > Regards > John > > John D. Stevenson > Edinburgh > > > > >> Marilyn, the LDS entry that was extracted from local records had it >> spelled Allexander - with a >> double "L". There is an entry at SP regarding the marriage of Allexander >> Gibson and Rabina Bogie >> dated 16 Nov 1765. >> >> By the way, there is a birth/baptism entry in the OPR for a son named >> William Gibson dated 25 Nov >> 1768 where Alexander's forename was spelled with a double "L" as well. He >> might had died in infancy >> since I see there was another William Gibson born to Alexander Gibson and >> Rabina Bogie in 1774. >> >> Jacquie >> Winnipeg, MB >> Canada >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-EDINBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Colinton is an outer suburb of Edinburgh. Sandy (Tasmania) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Watson Family" <watsonb@iinet.com.au> To: <SCT-EDINBURGH@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 6:40 PM Subject: [SCT-EDINBURGH] Place Names Colinton or Hailes? > Hi, > another name Colinton or Hailes Sp have down for the birth of Alexander > Gibson in 1738. Hope he is mine his parents were Thomas Gibson and wife > Agnes Barton. Since Alexander Gibson and his wife Rabina Bogie 1st two > children were Agnes then Thomas I am banking on this being his parents. > This alexander was born Colinton or Hailes Midlothian. Is that close to > Edinburgh? > Many thanks for all your help sorting out the last two > cheers Marilyn > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-EDINBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

George JACK, a bank porter, married Christian LOGAN 1 July 1800 in Edinburgh. Christian's father was an ale labourer in Tranent. They had at least 5 children: - Christian JACK, born 26 Jan 1801 in Durness, Sutherland - Margaret JACK, born 3 May 1803 in Tranent, Haddington, East Lothian - Robina JACK, born 7 April 1805 in Tranent, Haddington, East Lothian - William Graham JACK, born 18 January 1807 in Haddington, East Lothian - George JACK, born 25 April 1808 in Daviot, Aberdeen; died 15 Jul 1885 in Markinch While I have full BMD and census details on the youngest son, I have been unable to discover any birth/death/burial/siblings/census details for the parents, or any marriage/death/burial/census details for the four older children. Am willing to share findings to date with anyone else researching this family. Carolyn Canada

Hi Rhoda, many thanks for that. The map is great and really helps sort out where everything is cheers Marilyn At 08:25 PM 15/10/2008, you wrote: >Marilyn > >Found this map by Googling Edinburgh Parishes. It may be helpful to all >those looking up the births/marriages of Edinburgh ancestors. I don't know >who Lady Yesters was, but I am sure someone will have the background > >See: http://www.hoodfamily.info/misc/miscedinmap.html > > >"Murchiston" will be Merchiston an area in the west of Edinburgh - near >Colinton. > >Rhoda > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Watson Family" <watsonb@iinet.com.au> >To: <SCT-EDINBURGH@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 9:03 AM >Subject: [SCT-EDINBURGH] Sorry more place names Murchiston and Lady >yestersKirk? > > > > Hi, > > Discovered more names that I have no idea where they are. When Alexander > > married Rabina Bogie she was the dau of deceased.. Bogie gardener at > > Murchiston. So where is Murchiston? > > A possible birth for my Robert Aitken( who Married Agnes Gibson in 1789) > > was a Robert Aitken son of William Aitken smith burges in Lady Yesters > > parish and Rachel Cameron and wit James Thomson shoemaker in New Kirk > > parish. in Jan 1764. So where is Lady Yesters Parish? and New Kirk? > > Sorry about this. I think I'am on a roll :-) > > cheers Marilyn > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > SCT-EDINBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >SCT-EDINBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Sandy, Good many thanks for that info cheers Marilyn At 07:39 PM 15/10/2008, you wrote: >Colinton is an outer suburb of Edinburgh. Sandy (Tasmania) > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Watson Family" <watsonb@iinet.com.au> >To: <SCT-EDINBURGH@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 6:40 PM >Subject: [SCT-EDINBURGH] Place Names Colinton or Hailes? > > > > Hi, > > another name Colinton or Hailes Sp have down for the birth of Alexander > > Gibson in 1738. Hope he is mine his parents were Thomas Gibson and wife > > Agnes Barton. Since Alexander Gibson and his wife Rabina Bogie 1st two > > children were Agnes then Thomas I am banking on this being his parents. > > This alexander was born Colinton or Hailes Midlothian. Is that close to > > Edinburgh? > > Many thanks for all your help sorting out the last two > > cheers Marilyn > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > SCT-EDINBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >SCT-EDINBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi everyone, Am looking for connections. Thought I would post some information on my ancestors. If you see possible connections, please let me know. Thanks! Chris I am researching Dewars of Edinburgh. Patrick Dewar (English teacher) most likely from Perth, married Mary Menzies, daughter of Archibald Menzies and Margaret Campbell. Mary (Menzies) Dewar died at the Little Dunkeld Parish in Scotland in 1866. At least four children born to them: Archibald, Mary, Margaret, and John. Archibald, assistant inspector of the poor at the city parish died at the age of 80 on Sept. 8, 1878. Archibald did leave a will and inventory list of items at the time of his death of which I have a copy Archibald married Margaret Easton. They married in 1832 in St. Cuthberts, Edinburgh Scotland. Margaret Easton was born in Linlithgow, West Lothian Scotland in the year 1812. Margaret's parents' names were Robert Easton, who married Elizabeth Steel. Archibald and Margaret had at least three children; their names were Elizabeth, Peter, and Mary. After Archibald's death, his widow Margaret was living in Edinburgh, Scotland in 1881 as a housing lodging housekeeper with her daughter Mary whom was a dressmaker. Also living in the household was Elizabeth Ferguson, a visitor (possibly a relative) (could have been her oldest daughter) and a lodger named Alexander Petrie, Archibald and Margaret's daughter Elizabeth, (sister of Peter and Mary), may have married William Ross who was found in the 1881 Latter Day Saints census living in South Leith, Edinburgh Scotland. William Ross was a lithographic printer by occupation and was originally from Kirkpatrick, Dumfries Scotland. They had at least two children, Archibald and George Peter Dewar Sr. (son of Archibald and Margaret Dewar and brother of Elizabeth and Mary) was born in 1835 in St. Cuthberts, Edinburgh, He grew up to become a "lithographer", a printer. Peter Sr. married Jane Kay Morrison, daughter of John Morrison and Jane Kay. Peter Dewar Sr. and Jane had seven known children and possibly two more unknown who probably died young. They were Jane K. Dewar (Jennie), born June 23, 1857 in Edinburgh Parish, Edinburgh, Scotland, Archibald Dewar born about 1858/1859 in Scotland, John Morrison Dewar born June 30, 1862 in Edinburgh, Scotland, Charlotte Beatrice (Beatrix) Dewar born August 19, 1865 in Scotland, and Peter Dewar Jr. born June 26,1869 in Springfield Massachusetts. William Morrison Dewar was born about September 1871 in Springfield, Massachusetts and died April 14, 1872 in Springfield, Massachusetts. Catherine M. Dewar born about March 30, 1874 in Springfield, Massachusetts and died May 12, 1874 in Springfield, Massachusetts. Their son John Morrison Dewar (possibly died about1862/63. Charlotte possibly died young as well. I have not found either of them thus far in Boston after their parents traveled from Scotland to Boston.

Hi John & All: I am wondering if anyone can help with some spelling variations on my great grandmothers given name. It was Alexis, as she has clearly signed on several documents at her marriage & childrens birth registrations. I have looked for as many variations of the name as I can think of. I have only found her in one Census 1861 with the spelling Elexeyes 9 yrs old. Living in Sterling with her grandparents, George West 77, Elexeyer West 66, and another granddaughter, Janet West 7. Alexis West was the Daughter of Alexander West & Janet Hamilton (this is on her marriage to David Young in 1880) from Scotlands People. >From other information I have found on Scotlands People, (1851 census of her parents) I think she was likely to have been born in Bothwell (Bellshill), Hamilton, Lanark. Although the family story says Edinburgh. Her Birth, on her Tomb stone here in Toronto Canada has born 12, Dec. 1857. But this is a way off when you look at the 1861 Census. Alexis Mother Died is 1858 in Sterling, Stirlingshire in Child Bed. so? Thanks in advance for any help!!! Liz