hi thanks for the responses. William junior was born c1850 and he was a tailor - the first definate sighting i have of him is in the 1881 census in Newcastle by which time he is married with children having married in 1872. I dont know when he came to England, I cant find any suitable William Muirs (tailor) in the 1871 census for England. I found a possible one as a lodger in Edinburgh he gives his birthplace as Dalkeith - I had been fairly sure this must be him but I have just spent a couple of hours tracing a family with a son William born Dalkeith and have found the father IS William (from the marriage of a brother) but he is named as an AG Lab which spoils my plan somewhat. There are several possible Williams in the censuses with William as father but none is a chemist. As I mentioned before, I am concentrating on Edinburgh as thats where the family say they were from, but as we know this cannot always be relied upon. However I have searched William Muir chemist for the whole of Scotland and have come up with none. Heather> From: copywriter@tesco.net> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 22:23:32 +0100> To: sct-edinburgh@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] chemist> > what age was your William Muir (jnr)at marriage, what was his > occupation and do you have him on any other censuses?> > "druggist" is another possible search term and chemist could be > spelled differently.> > > > Judy> On 25 Oct 2008, at 20:53, york4546 wrote:> > >> > Hello everyone,> >> > I'm new to this list and was hoping someone could help me with a > > question.> >> > My g g grandfather William Muir married in 1872 in Newcastle Upon > > Tyne but he was from Scotland, my grandfather always said from > > Edinburgh.> >> > On his marriage certificate he states his father to be William Muir > > a chemist. On searching the scottish census I have found that > > chemist isnt that common an occupation and there are no Muir > > chemists in either the 1861 or 1871 censuses.> >> > My question is, has anyone any ideas as to an alternative as to > > what he may have described his occupation.> >> > I have been trying to think of all things eg, could he have been a > > chemical labourer rather than a chemist or would William have meant > > his father was a chemist in the way would know it now.> >> > Any ideas would be most appreciated.> >> >> > _________________________________________________________________> > Discover Bird's Eye View now with Multimap from Live Search> > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/111354026/direct/01/> >> > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-EDINBURGH- > > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message> > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-EDINBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Win an Xbox 360 or £200 Top Shop Vouchers http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/115454062/direct/01/

>My question is, has anyone any ideas as to an alternative as to what he may have described his >occupation. He could have also been known as an apothecary, or chemist & druggists. There is a downloadable research guide to researching apothecaries and pharmacists Downloadable Fact Sheet from the Royal Pharmaceutical Society of GB http://www.rpsgb.org.uk/pdfs/tracing.pdf There is also a mailing list for this profession at Rootsweb http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Occupations/UK-CHEMIST-APOTHECARY.html -- Regards, Julie Goucher anglers.rest@virgin.net http://www.anglers-rest.net

> I just looked up a St. Cuthberts Marriage listing for 1849. When I saw > the beautifully written entries and all the data they contained, I was > glad to have a marriage to find there ! The LDS film for Marriages in > St. Cuthberts from 1845-1849 will be here for 5 more weeks. Will be > glad to look up any OPRs someone wishes, they are beautiful to read and > have the surnames in the margins to assist with finding the right entry. Hi Meg, Could you please find the entry for William Milne, 29 June 1849 -- see below, Wm. married one of my Smiths and then seems to have died before the 1851 census, I would love to be able to find Wm. Milne in 1841 but have no details for him at all yet. > For a St Cuthbert's lookup, send NAME, and DATE. William MILNE Spouse: Janet Burns SMITH Marriage: 29 Jun 1849 Edinburgh, Saint Cuthberts, Midlothian, Scotland Batch number: M119902 Sheet: Source: 1066766

what age was your William Muir (jnr)at marriage, what was his occupation and do you have him on any other censuses? "druggist" is another possible search term and chemist could be spelled differently. Judy On 25 Oct 2008, at 20:53, york4546 wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > I'm new to this list and was hoping someone could help me with a > question. > > My g g grandfather William Muir married in 1872 in Newcastle Upon > Tyne but he was from Scotland, my grandfather always said from > Edinburgh. > > On his marriage certificate he states his father to be William Muir > a chemist. On searching the scottish census I have found that > chemist isnt that common an occupation and there are no Muir > chemists in either the 1861 or 1871 censuses. > > My question is, has anyone any ideas as to an alternative as to > what he may have described his occupation. > > I have been trying to think of all things eg, could he have been a > chemical labourer rather than a chemist or would William have meant > his father was a chemist in the way would know it now. > > Any ideas would be most appreciated. > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Discover Bird's Eye View now with Multimap from Live Search > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/111354026/direct/01/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-EDINBURGH- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Hi York, What year was your William Muir Born? should be a way of tracing him through the Census records. Anne Edinburgh ----- Original Message ----- From: "york4546" <york4546@msn.com> To: <sct-edinburgh@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 8:53 PM Subject: [SCT-EDINBURGH] chemist > > Hello everyone, > > I'm new to this list and was hoping someone could help me with a question. > > My g g grandfather William Muir married in 1872 in Newcastle Upon Tyne but > he was from Scotland, my grandfather always said from Edinburgh. > > On his marriage certificate he states his father to be William Muir a > chemist. On searching the scottish census I have found that chemist isnt > that common an occupation and there are no Muir chemists in either the > 1861 or 1871 censuses. > > My question is, has anyone any ideas as to an alternative as to what he > may have described his occupation. > > I have been trying to think of all things eg, could he have been a > chemical labourer rather than a chemist or would William have meant his > father was a chemist in the way would know it now. > > Any ideas would be most appreciated. > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Discover Bird's Eye View now with Multimap from Live Search > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/111354026/direct/01/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-EDINBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.8.3/1744 - Release Date: 24/10/2008 > 18:08 > >

Hello everyone, I'm new to this list and was hoping someone could help me with a question. My g g grandfather William Muir married in 1872 in Newcastle Upon Tyne but he was from Scotland, my grandfather always said from Edinburgh. On his marriage certificate he states his father to be William Muir a chemist. On searching the scottish census I have found that chemist isnt that common an occupation and there are no Muir chemists in either the 1861 or 1871 censuses. My question is, has anyone any ideas as to an alternative as to what he may have described his occupation. I have been trying to think of all things eg, could he have been a chemical labourer rather than a chemist or would William have meant his father was a chemist in the way would know it now. Any ideas would be most appreciated. _________________________________________________________________ Discover Bird's Eye View now with Multimap from Live Search http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/111354026/direct/01/

Hi, Please can anyone steer me in the right direction of the Arnott family. Margaret Arnott married John Aitken in 1824 at St Cuths. Margaret was residing at 1 Cheyne St Stockbridge and was the dau of Thomas Arnott stocking weaver in Sciennes So what is Sciennes? John and Margaret's children were Robert 1824, Agnes 1826 ,(both named after his parents) Catherine 1831 and John 1835 All born at StCuths. The Aitkens I know but can't connect with the Arnott family. I am looking for a birth of Margaret Arnot, father Thomas, but no go in Edinburgh that I can find. According to the 1841 census she was 50 and in the 1851 census she was 64 making her born c 1789- 1791 supposedly in Edinburgh. There were 2 marriages for a Thomas Arnott one in 1778 to Grizell Russell father James Thomas Arnott married Margaret Aitken father William in 1787. Both at St Cuths So I can't figure out which might be Margaret's parents. I can't find John Aitken and his wife Margaret (Arnot) in the 1861 census. In the 1851 census they were at ThorneyBank, Edinburgh. Neither can I find their deaths. So any help would be appreciated cheers Marilyn from Western Australia

Sciennes is a district in Edinburgh - see this link for more details http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sciennes What was John's occupation? Joanne Edinburgh ________________________________ From: Watson Family <watsonb@iinet.com.au> To: sct-edinburgh@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, 25 October, 2008 11:37:10 Subject: [SCT-EDINBURGH] Re Arnott family -Sciennes Hi,   Please can anyone steer me in the right direction of the Arnott family. Margaret Arnott married John Aitken in 1824 at St Cuths. Margaret was residing at 1 Cheyne St Stockbridge and was the dau of Thomas Arnott stocking weaver in Sciennes So what is Sciennes? John and Margaret's children were Robert 1824, Agnes 1826 ,(both named after his parents) Catherine 1831 and John 1835 All born at StCuths. The Aitkens I know but can't connect with the Arnott family. I am looking for a birth of Margaret Arnot, father Thomas, but no go in Edinburgh that I can find. According to the 1841 census she was 50 and in the 1851 census she was 64 making her born c 1789- 1791 supposedly in Edinburgh. There were 2 marriages for a Thomas Arnott one in 1778 to Grizell Russell father James                   Thomas Arnott married Margaret Aitken father William in 1787. Both at St Cuths So I can't figure out which might be Margaret's parents. I can't find John Aitken and his wife Margaret (Arnot) in the 1861 census. In the 1851 census they were at ThorneyBank, Edinburgh. Neither can I find their deaths. So any help would be appreciated cheers Marilyn from Western Australia ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-EDINBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

To all the people that replied to my request for a name for Nettie, thank you all very much. I have 5 good suggestions to check out. Bobby

----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter McCosker" <mccosker@wn.com.au> To: <sct-edinburgh@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 10:31 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] Alison surname > Many thanks for your interest, but as far as I can work out my John Alison > appears to be from Duddingston/St Cuthbert's district. > Dianne > > -----Original Message----- > From: sct-edinburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:sct-edinburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of a.stevenson > Sent: Sunday, 19 October 2008 5:51 PM > To: sct-edinburgh@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] Alison surname > > Hi, I have John ALISON (b. Erskine, Renfrewshire) m. Janet MARSHALL > their children were and born in Lanarkshire: > Annie b. 1862 > Christina b. 1865 > Samuel b. 1866 > Henderson Strang b. 1867 > Janet b. 1869 > Elizabeth Marshall b. 1870 > Alexander Marshall b. 1871 > > Regards, Sandy (Tasmania) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-EDINBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-EDINBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Peter, I checked back a bit further and found that they came from the Renfrewshire area. John's parents were William ALISON & Margaret McAUSLAND this was their marriage 7th July 1851. Unfortunately at this stage there doesn't seem to be a connection. Regards, Sandy (snowy Tasmania, also NSW has had a dumping overnight) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter McCosker" <mccosker@wn.com.au> To: <sct-edinburgh@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 10:31 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] Alison surname > Many thanks for your interest, but as far as I can work out my John Alison > appears to be from Duddingston/St Cuthbert's district. > Dianne > > -----Original Message----- > From: sct-edinburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:sct-edinburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of a.stevenson > Sent: Sunday, 19 October 2008 5:51 PM > To: sct-edinburgh@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] Alison surname > > Hi, I have John ALISON (b. Erskine, Renfrewshire) m. Janet MARSHALL > their children were and born in Lanarkshire: > Annie b. 1862 > Christina b. 1865 > Samuel b. 1866 > Henderson Strang b. 1867 > Janet b. 1869 > Elizabeth Marshall b. 1870 > Alexander Marshall b. 1871 > > Regards, Sandy (Tasmania) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-EDINBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-EDINBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Many thanks for your interest, but as far as I can work out my John Alison appears to be from Duddingston/St Cuthbert's district. Dianne -----Original Message----- From: sct-edinburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sct-edinburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of a.stevenson Sent: Sunday, 19 October 2008 5:51 PM To: sct-edinburgh@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] Alison surname Hi, I have John ALISON (b. Erskine, Renfrewshire) m. Janet MARSHALL their children were and born in Lanarkshire: Annie b. 1862 Christina b. 1865 Samuel b. 1866 Henderson Strang b. 1867 Janet b. 1869 Elizabeth Marshall b. 1870 Alexander Marshall b. 1871 Regards, Sandy (Tasmania) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-EDINBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Meg Christine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Meg Greenwood" <scotquester@bartnet.net> To: <sct-edinburgh@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 3:18 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] St. Cuthbert lookups > Christine, yes, I got your post and have replied off list with > suggestions to get specific names. MEG > ================= > > cristy wrote: >> Hi Meg, >> >> Can you tell me if you received my message? >> >> thanks ;) Christine >> >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-EDINBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Meg, Thanks greatly for all those Cunninghams. Though probably most of them are not 'mine' they are as ever highly interesting. The lack of 'marriage dates' is one I've noted elsewhere - I think that if the marriage was elsewhere it was very much up to the recording person whether they included a note of it or not. I had a strange one elsewhere from Stirlingshire - the proclamation of banns was made a year before the actual marriage in a different parish.. the dates confused me no end until I got the two entries! (I do wonder, though, what intervened in that case. Illness or troubled times probably.) No sign of John Sinclair Cunningham's one though? He's the one I do know to have been in the same family... and at least one of the Williams is likely to be, but I do not know which one... Best regards, Jenny Meg said: >Here's the one DOBBIE marriage and the rest of the CUNNINGHAMs : > >I note several marriages have nothing written for the actual marriage. >These entries are all handwritten including names, residences, father of >the bride, proclamation verbage and a space for the marriage date to be >entered later. If there was no entry made, the space is completely >blank. For some reason, the good minister or harried clerk did not >enter the marriage details as he should have done. Even though this >person had wonderful penmanship and asked great questions about the >bride and groom....he did not have a laudable memory....he keeps >forgetting to go back a few pages in the book and enter the marriage >date in the blank section provided. Some of these had the word >"Married" already written in the space provided. This is easily seen in >the handwriting. The entry was completed in a slightly different hand, >or he used another quill. Perhaps some of these marriages didn't >actually take place and that's why there is no further information. But >there are so many of these entries with blank spaces and no marriage >details, I have to think its because he didn't go back and enter the data. >================

Christine, yes, I got your post and have replied off list with suggestions to get specific names. MEG ================= cristy wrote: > Hi Meg, > > Can you tell me if you received my message? > > thanks ;) Christine > > >

Hi Meg, Can you tell me if you received my message? thanks ;) Christine

Chris - you must be living right....its here as well as in Duddingston. MegG in OK ======================= 1842 Alfred STREET, Officer of Excise residing in Bath Street in parish of Portobello within the original parish of Duddingstone and Christian THOMSON residing at #10, Bonighton? [Borrighton?, Boroughton?] Place in this parish, Daughter of James THOMSON, Pilot in Buckhaven have been 3 several times duly and regularly proclaimed in order to Marriage in the parish church of St. Cuthbert's and no objections offered.....Married on the 18th day of November current by the Reverend James Harper, Minister of the United Associate Secession Congregation in Leith. ======================= Chris Godfrey wrote: > Hi Meg > If this fits with the dates could you check Alfred STREET and Christian THOMSON married 18 Nov 1842 at St. Cutherberts, Edinburgh. The IGI also has the same couple married 20 Nov 1842 in Duddingston, Midlothian so I'm curious to know what the St. Cutheberts OPR says. Thanks Chris Godfrey > _________________________________________________________________ > > >

No, I haven't gone further back with this part of my Wilson line, my uncle was John Alison WILSON he married my father's sister who was his first cousin. Regards, Sandy (Tasmania) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter McCosker" <mccosker@wn.com.au> To: <sct-edinburgh@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 7:33 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] Alison surname > Hi, Do you know John Alison's parents name? My John Alison was born 1814 > in > Duddingston, Midlothian and parents were John and Anna Alison. They > appeared to have had 9 chn: Helen, Susan, Ann, Alexander, Catherine (my > great great grandmother), Margaret, John and Benjamin. Does any of this > fit > with your info. > Dianne > > -----Original Message----- > From: sct-edinburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:sct-edinburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of a.stevenson > Sent: Sunday, 19 October 2008 5:51 PM > To: sct-edinburgh@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] Alison surname > > Hi, I have John ALISON (b. Erskine, Renfrewshire) m. Janet MARSHALL > their children were and born in Lanarkshire: > Annie b. 1862 > Christina b. 1865 > Samuel b. 1866 > Henderson Strang b. 1867 > Janet b. 1869 > Elizabeth Marshall b. 1870 > Alexander Marshall b. 1871 > > Regards, Sandy (Tasmania) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-EDINBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-EDINBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi, Do you know John Alison's parents name? My John Alison was born 1814 in Duddingston, Midlothian and parents were John and Anna Alison. They appeared to have had 9 chn: Helen, Susan, Ann, Alexander, Catherine (my great great grandmother), Margaret, John and Benjamin. Does any of this fit with your info. Dianne -----Original Message----- From: sct-edinburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sct-edinburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of a.stevenson Sent: Sunday, 19 October 2008 5:51 PM To: sct-edinburgh@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] Alison surname Hi, I have John ALISON (b. Erskine, Renfrewshire) m. Janet MARSHALL their children were and born in Lanarkshire: Annie b. 1862 Christina b. 1865 Samuel b. 1866 Henderson Strang b. 1867 Janet b. 1869 Elizabeth Marshall b. 1870 Alexander Marshall b. 1871 Regards, Sandy (Tasmania) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-EDINBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can I join in this Alison discussion? My relative inventor William YOUNG http://www.makers.org.uk/penicuik/heatandlight#three and his wife Christina AL(L)ISON were living at Duddington at Magdalen Bridge Chemical Works in the 1860s and their son John Alison YOUNG was born there in 1864. Although Christina's father became a blacksmith in Fife, there may have been a connection with the Duddingston ALISONs. There may also be a link with the writer Mona Caird http://www.kosmoid.net/lives/caird , whose father inventor John Alison was Midlothian-born, though little is known of him. best wishes Roger Kelly http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=kosmoid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter McCosker" <mccosker@wn.com.au> To: <sct-edinburgh@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 9:33 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] Alison surname > Hi, Do you know John Alison's parents name? My John Alison was born 1814 > in > Duddingston, Midlothian and parents were John and Anna Alison. They > appeared to have had 9 chn: Helen, Susan, Ann, Alexander, Catherine (my > great great grandmother), Margaret, John and Benjamin. Does any of this > fit > with your info. > Dianne > > -----Original Message----- > From: sct-edinburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:sct-edinburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of a.stevenson > Sent: Sunday, 19 October 2008 5:51 PM > To: sct-edinburgh@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] Alison surname > > Hi, I have John ALISON (b. Erskine, Renfrewshire) m. Janet MARSHALL > their children were and born in Lanarkshire: > Annie b. 1862 > Christina b. 1865 > Samuel b. 1866 > Henderson Strang b. 1867 > Janet b. 1869 > Elizabeth Marshall b. 1870 > Alexander Marshall b. 1871 > > Regards, Sandy (Tasmania) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-EDINBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-EDINBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message