Have tried Old Calton - but not yet Restalrig. And so if anybody has that... This is a very long shot - trying to find anything either demonstrates or disproves a connection in the late 18th century. So as said a very long shot, as few people had MIs and fewer are extant. But it's just possible that a later stone might give a clue. Jenny >Good afternoon Jennie, >As we speak Scottish Genealogy Society are working on the recording of >ROSEBANK MI's. >Suggest you contact SGS >http://www.scotsgenealogy.com/ >in the hope they may have already recorded your people's stone(s) >They have completed and published the MI's for WARRISTON and SEAFIELD the >other cemetery's used by Leither's in later 19th C > OLD CALTON burial ground lay within South Leith Parish in early 19th C and >there are a few Leither's buried there as there were at RESTALRIG > >Regards >John > >John D. Stevenson >Edinburgh

Good afternoon Jennie, As we speak Scottish Genealogy Society are working on the recording of ROSEBANK MI's. Suggest you contact SGS http://www.scotsgenealogy.com/ in the hope they may have already recorded your people's stone(s) They have completed and published the MI's for WARRISTON and SEAFIELD the other cemetery's used by Leither's in later 19th C OLD CALTON burial ground lay within South Leith Parish in early 19th C and there are a few Leither's buried there as there were at RESTALRIG Regards John John D. Stevenson Edinburgh Subject: [SCT-EDINBURGH] Rosebank MIs? Calton Hill MI lookups? > Dear everybody - thanks to all who've helped with this before. I > understand that there are Leith people buried in Rosebank. Does > anybody have MIs from there? I'm looking for the same names as before > - Names are Philp (Philip, Phillips etc), Imrie, Bell, Cunningham... > I know that Rosebank is late, not opening before 1846, but there just > might be something. > > In return I have the Leith MIs and can look up names in that... > > Jenny > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-EDINBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear everybody - thanks to all who've helped with this before. I understand that there are Leith people buried in Rosebank. Does anybody have MIs from there? I'm looking for the same names as before - Names are Philp (Philip, Phillips etc), Imrie, Bell, Cunningham... I know that Rosebank is late, not opening before 1846, but there just might be something. In return I have the Leith MIs and can look up names in that... Jenny

Many thanks for all replies ----- Original Message ----- From: <sct-edinburgh-request@rootsweb.com> To: <sct-edinburgh@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 7:01 PM Subject: SCT-EDINBURGH Digest, Vol 4, Issue 10 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Warriston Crematorium favour (Jacquie) > > ******************************************** -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 5.8 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 597 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

I have a BIG ASK from an Australian researcher Would it be possible for SKS to ring Warriston Crematorium for me to ask if Elizabeth Smith Reid who died 23 November 1954 has a niche at the Crematorium and if so is her husband beside her. He being Robert Arthur Reid.(predeceased her) She was probably cremated November 25th. Dates are correct as I have the newspaper clipping of November 24th from the Edinburgh Evening News many thanks Denise -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 5.8 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 594 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

If no one is able to call for you, here's a link to their website: http://www.edinburghcrematorium.com/WarrHistory.html Click on "Contact" to email them. Jacquie -----Original Message----- From: sct-edinburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sct-edinburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Denise Reid Sent: January 17, 2009 12:12 AM To: SCT-EDINBURGH@rootsweb.com Cc: scotland-genweb@rootsweb.com Subject: [SCT-EDINBURGH] Warriston Crematorium favour I have a BIG ASK from an Australian researcher Would it be possible for SKS to ring Warriston Crematorium for me to ask if Elizabeth Smith Reid who died 23 November 1954 has a niche at the Crematorium and if so is her husband beside her. He being Robert Arthur Reid.(predeceased her) She was probably cremated November 25th. Dates are correct as I have the newspaper clipping of November 24th from the Edinburgh Evening News many thanks Denise

Hi All, I hope this is not off topic. I have been doing a search of the OPR Births and Baptisms on ScotlandsPeople and some of the search returns preface the parent names with "ND Glenholm". I am presuming that this may refer to a central registration district around Glenholm but it is just a guess. Can someone please clarify what the "ND Glenholm" refers to? Many thanks Ian Mair

Well yes, especially since from what you have said you don't have any other confirmation for Elizabeth's maiden name. Neither "Alexander Stewart" nor "Elizabeth" are rare names. But...I believe the St Cuthberts marriage (banns) records for that time are some of the most informative. And you never know quite what you might find. For starters, if Alexander's profession is consistent, that increases the chances that he is 'yours' by quite a bit. Then if you have Elizabeth's father's name and residence you may be able to trace her family. One of them may have left a will, or perhaps you can find someone researching her siblings. Who knows, there may be someone out there with family letters and pictures that have been handed down to them - that's happened to me in the past. Good luck. Judy On 10 Jan 2009, at 01:04, janine h wrote: > Buying the St Cuthbert's marriage still > wouldn't tell me if this Alexander Stewart and Elizabeth were mine.

The SA BDM certificates are not good with information, so no, parents names are not on the marriage or death records. I'll try to ascertain if there were other births in South Australia but that won't necessarily mean the info I want will be on them. : ( Buying the St Cuthbert's marriage still wouldn't tell me if this Alexander Stewart and Elizabeth were mine. I have to find a link to her name in records here, or tie the births of the kids in Scotland to parents names. I might have to hire Graham Jaunay (from SA) who provided the info from the Emigrant Register to do some further search in SA. Your advice has been much appreciated Judy, thank you. Cheers Janine -----Original Message----- Do these marriage and death records not give parents' names at all? Was there a newspaper notice for any of these events? IS there a possibility of other children either born in Australia or left behind in Scotland (it did happen) whose records might be found?

Hi Judy, I have the info on the 1841 census return but didn't know about the application for relief. I'll chase that one up. Thanks so much Cheers Janine i am sure you have checked out the references given here http://www.familyhistorysa.info/shipping/passengerlists.html It seems they are in a 1841 census return and applied for relief in 1840? Any more info in those sources? Judy On 9 Jan 2009, at 11:31, judy olsen wrote: > >> >> daughter Elizabeth , >> married Charles King in Willunga SA in 1855 (apparently 21 years at >> the >> time); they lived in the area and were buried in the old Willunga >> cemetery. > > Do these marriage and death records not give parents' names at all? > > Was there a newspaper notice for any of these events? > > IS there a possibility of other children either born in Australia or > left behind in Scotland (it did happen) whose records might be found? > >> Do you think it would be worth while hiring a genealogist in >> Edinburgh to find their emigration records and then they could go >> backward >> from there? > > I don't know what there would be to find unless you know the name of > an emigration society that sent them. > > Did you send for the details of the marriage you found. I have one > from a similar date at St Cuthberts and it gives both addresses, > groom's occupation and bride's father's occupation and location. > > > > Judy > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-EDINBURGH- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-EDINBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.5/1883 - Release Date: 1/8/2009 6:05 PM

Hi Judy, Thanks for your thoughts and response. I don't have access to the Emigrant Register, a genealogist found the information and it was photocopied and sent to me. Regarding the assisted immigrant program in SA, people applying had to be under 35. I think Alexander may have fibbed about his age, their ages compared with their children suggests they were parents at age 20 and 16 respectively, which is not that rare I guess, but shaving five or so years off their true ages is a distinct probability. The column headings read : Occupation : Shepherd. and Address: Leith. This, as you say, could suggest that they were temporarily living in Leith waiting for transport to London for the passage to Australia Unfortunately I have been unable to find the death certificates of Alexander and Elizabeth. They don't appear in SA so there is the possibility that they may have gone to Victoria for the gold rush, but daughter Elizabeth , married Charles King in Willunga SA in 1855 (apparently 21 years at the time); they lived in the area and were buried in the old Willunga cemetery. However I can find no marriage records for Donald and Jessie in SA either so an interstate move may have well been the go. I will check with the Victorian and other state records for their deaths though and also the marriages. If that comes up blank, I'm still at that wall. Do you think it would be worth while hiring a genealogist in Edinburgh to find their emigration records and then they could go backward from there? There is little I can do this side of the world : ) Cheers and thanks Janine

Hi listers, I have been researching some Ancestors and discovered that they came to South Australia on the Duchess of Northumberland leaving London on 6 Aug 1839 and arriving 17.12. 1839. Their names were Alexander Stewart, wife Elizabeth and four children. The Emigrant Register says that Alexander was a Shepherd from Leith and I started looking but can find no marriage record there. I don't know where Elizabeth came from so can not check her own parish. However the IGI suggests a possible marriage of an Alexander Stewart to an Elizabeth Ferguson on 5 June 1825 at Saint Cuthberts. Edinburgh (best fit to date) The only way to check is to find the children's birth registrations to check who the mother was. The kids were Donald born either c1826 or 1830, daughter Jessie bc 1828, Elizabeth bc 1832 and another son (either c1826 or 1830 but don't know his name). On the application for immigration in 1839 the children are listed as "2 sons age 13 and 9; 2 daughters aged 11 and 7" Their Application No is 4624 and Embarkation No 3230. I live in a remote region in the Kimberleys and cannot access any significant libraries (local one has no genealogy material at all) though I do what I can via the internet. I would like some help, ideas, leads etc to find the birth registrations or the marriage of the couple. Can anyone help please? Cheers and thanks Janine Halls Creek WA

Rick, your Francis McIver was tranported to Hobart, Tasmania aboard the ship Lord Lyndoch, departing London 24 Apr 1836 and arriving Hobart 19 Aug 1836. His accomplice, Daniel Bane was on the same ship. The Archives Office of Tasmania (www.archives.tas.gov.au) will have loads of info on him. Their website provides the following entry: Convict No: 45868 Voyage Ship: Lord Lyndoch (2) Voyage No: 134 Arrival Date: 19 Aug 1836 Departure Date: 24 Apr 1836 Departure Port: London Conduct Record: CON31/1/24 Appropriation List: CON27/1/2, CSO1/1/875 18510, MM33/6 Description List: CON18/1/13 p341, CON23/1/2 (Conduct record will contain a summary of his crime and any subsequent convictions; Appropriation lists will tell where he was assigned to work; Description lists will give a physical description - like an old-fashioned identikit). There may also be subsequent marriage records, etc in Tasmania, available from the Archives (records from Tas Archives much cheaper than from Scotland!) The Aus-Tas mailing list is also an extremely helpful resource. Regards Richard Carlaw ---------------------------------------- > Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 15:27:08 +1100 > From: ricksmith61@gmail.com > To: SCT-EDINBURGH@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SCT-EDINBURGH] Francis McIVER about 1822 Edinburgh - child convict to Australia > > Hi, > > I'm looking for more information about Francis McIVER. The following > is found in the Scottish Archives: > > RReference Title Date > AD14 Crown Office precognitions 1801-1900 > AD14/35 Crown Office precognitions, 1835 1835 > Country code GB > Repository code 234 > Repository National Archives of Scotland > Reference AD14/35/428 > Title Precognition against Francis McIver, Daniel Bain for the crime > of theft, habit and repute, and previous conviction > Dates 1835 > Access status Open > Level File > Finding aids 19th Century Solemn Database > Related record JC26/1835/544 > Accused Francis McIver, son of Francis McIver, mason, Age: 13, > Address: College Wynd, Edinburgh, with father Daniel Bain, Age: 14, > tailor, Address: c/o Joan Gow, Canongate, Edinburgh > Associated places > > NA4265 Scotland > > > > Reference Title Date > JC26 High Court of Justiciary processes 1550-1997 > Country code GB > Repository code 234 > Repository National Archives of Scotland > Reference JC26/1835/544 > Title Trial papers relating to Francis McIver, Daniel Bain for the > crime of theft, habit and repute, and previous conviction. Tried at > High Court, Edinburgh > Dates 19 May 1835 > Access status Open > Level File > Finding aids 19th Century Solemn Database > Related record AD14/35/428 > > Accused Francis McIver, son of Francis McIver, mason, Verdict: > Guilty, Sentence: Transportation - 7 years Previous convictions: > theft. Note: Pannel cannot write. Daniel Bain, Verdict: Guilty, > Sentence: Transportation - 7 years Previous convictions: theft > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-EDINBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ See all the ways you can stay connected to friends and family http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/default.aspx

i am sure you have checked out the references given here http://www.familyhistorysa.info/shipping/passengerlists.html It seems they are in a 1841 census return and applied for relief in 1840? Any more info in those sources? Judy On 9 Jan 2009, at 11:31, judy olsen wrote: > >> >> daughter Elizabeth , >> married Charles King in Willunga SA in 1855 (apparently 21 years at >> the >> time); they lived in the area and were buried in the old Willunga >> cemetery. > > Do these marriage and death records not give parents' names at all? > > Was there a newspaper notice for any of these events? > > IS there a possibility of other children either born in Australia or > left behind in Scotland (it did happen) whose records might be found? > >> Do you think it would be worth while hiring a genealogist in >> Edinburgh to find their emigration records and then they could go >> backward >> from there? > > I don't know what there would be to find unless you know the name of > an emigration society that sent them. > > Did you send for the details of the marriage you found. I have one > from a similar date at St Cuthberts and it gives both addresses, > groom's occupation and bride's father's occupation and location. > > > > Judy > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-EDINBURGH- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

> > daughter Elizabeth , > married Charles King in Willunga SA in 1855 (apparently 21 years at > the > time); they lived in the area and were buried in the old Willunga > cemetery. Do these marriage and death records not give parents' names at all? Was there a newspaper notice for any of these events? IS there a possibility of other children either born in Australia or left behind in Scotland (it did happen) whose records might be found? > Do you think it would be worth while hiring a genealogist in > Edinburgh to find their emigration records and then they could go > backward > from there? I don't know what there would be to find unless you know the name of an emigration society that sent them. Did you send for the details of the marriage you found. I have one from a similar date at St Cuthberts and it gives both addresses, groom's occupation and bride's father's occupation and location. Judy

One more thing I meant to say, and that is bear in mind that Alexander might have fibbed. I don't know the details of emigration schemes at that date, but there certainly were times when certain occupations received favourable treatment eg free passage or land, and others would have to fend for themselves. Judy On 9 Jan 2009, at 08:23, janine h wrote: > Hi listers, > > I have been researching some Ancestors and discovered that they > came to > South Australia on the Duchess of Northumberland leaving London on > 6 Aug > 1839 and arriving 17.12. 1839. Their names were Alexander Stewart, > wife > Elizabeth and four children. The Emigrant Register says that > Alexander was > a Shepherd from Leith and I started looking but can find no > marriage record > there. I don't know where Elizabeth came from so can not check her > own > parish. > > However the IGI suggests a possible marriage of an Alexander > Stewart to an > Elizabeth Ferguson on 5 June 1825 at Saint Cuthberts. Edinburgh > (best fit to > date) The only way to check is to find the children's birth > registrations > to check who the mother was. The kids were Donald born either > c1826 or > 1830, daughter Jessie bc 1828, Elizabeth bc 1832 and another son > (either > c1826 or 1830 but don't know his name). On the application for > immigration > in 1839 the children are listed as "2 sons age 13 and 9; 2 > daughters aged 11 > and 7" Their Application No is 4624 and Embarkation No 3230. > > I live in a remote region in the Kimberleys and cannot access any > significant libraries (local one has no genealogy material at all) > though I > do what I can via the internet. I would like some help, ideas, > leads etc > to find the birth registrations or the marriage of the couple. Can > anyone > help please? > > Cheers and thanks > Janine > Halls Creek WA > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-EDINBURGH- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

I'm not familiar with what's in the Emigrant Register but could I suggest that the first thing to do is to compare this family with other entries and maybe look carefully at the column headings? 'From Leith' could mean lots of different things. As I think someone else has pointed out, it could mean port of embarcation. It could mean where he was living at the time of the application - which given that he might have travelled to Leith in order to emigrate, is much the same thing. Or it might mean place of last residence, or parish of origin. The idea that he might have lived in Leith whilst working as a shepherd isn't out of the question. This map http://www.nls.uk/maps/towns/reform/page.cfm?id=2586 gives you an idea of the amount of open ground there was around Leith itself at the time. You can see large houses with grounds where its entirely possible sheep were kept, if only to keep the grass down. Then there would be live sheep coming on and off boats in the port so probably pens somewhere and some shepherds needed to tend to these flocks as they waited. A favourite tale, from more recent times, is of someone going to the dole office in Edinburgh and when asked for occupation saying 'shepherd' - safe in the knowledge he could sign on without any chance of being sent for a job interview. He was promptly offered a job in the Queen's Park. As for the children, would the parents not be named on Australian death certs? That might be a better bet than looking for their births in Scotland as of course pre 1855 these are somewhat hit and miss. Judy On 9 Jan 2009, at 08:23, janine h wrote: > Hi listers, > > I have been researching some Ancestors and discovered that they > came to > South Australia on the Duchess of Northumberland leaving London on > 6 Aug > 1839 and arriving 17.12. 1839. Their names were Alexander Stewart, > wife > Elizabeth and four children. The Emigrant Register says that > Alexander was > a Shepherd from Leith and I started looking but can find no > marriage record > there. I don't know where Elizabeth came from so can not check her > own > parish. > > However the IGI suggests a possible marriage of an Alexander > Stewart to an > Elizabeth Ferguson on 5 June 1825 at Saint Cuthberts. Edinburgh > (best fit to > date) The only way to check is to find the children's birth > registrations > to check who the mother was. The kids were Donald born either > c1826 or > 1830, daughter Jessie bc 1828, Elizabeth bc 1832 and another son > (either > c1826 or 1830 but don't know his name). On the application for > immigration > in 1839 the children are listed as "2 sons age 13 and 9; 2 > daughters aged 11 > and 7" Their Application No is 4624 and Embarkation No 3230. > > I live in a remote region in the Kimberleys and cannot access any > significant libraries (local one has no genealogy material at all) > though I > do what I can via the internet. I would like some help, ideas, > leads etc > to find the birth registrations or the marriage of the couple. Can > anyone > help please? > > Cheers and thanks > Janine > Halls Creek WA > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-EDINBURGH- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Good evening Rhoda and Rick Just to add a bit to what you have written. I have been researching a number of "AD precognition " and "JC trial papers" at West Register House , Edinburgh, lately and it is a painstaking job to work through a case . I normally can only manage two/three cases in a six hour day the information then has to be put into "21st C English " !! I have just finished thirty cases from 1833 re women who were convicted and transported These type of cases are often very difficult to understand re the legal processes involved . Re RC marriages on OPR : often the " banns" can be found due to the person(s) living in a parish with no chapel . Favourite one in Edinburgh is banns read in "St Cuthbert's Parish" ( St Giles) and the couple married in St Pat's , Cowgate. For RC B,M & D pre 1855 suggest you contact Andrew Nicol Scottish Catholic Archives Columba House 16 Drummond Place Edinburgh EH3 6PL Scotland Telephone: 44 (0) 131 556 3661 Fax: 44 (0) 131 556 3661 EMail: archivists@scottishcatholicarchives.org.uk http://www.scottishcatholicarchives.org.uk/VisitContactUs/tabid/61/Default.aspx Regards John John D. Stevenson Edinburgh

Hi, I'm looking for more information about Francis McIVER. The following is found in the Scottish Archives: RReference Title Date AD14 Crown Office precognitions 1801-1900 AD14/35 Crown Office precognitions, 1835 1835 Country code GB Repository code 234 Repository National Archives of Scotland Reference AD14/35/428 Title Precognition against Francis McIver, Daniel Bain for the crime of theft, habit and repute, and previous conviction Dates 1835 Access status Open Level File Finding aids 19th Century Solemn Database Related record JC26/1835/544 Accused Francis McIver, son of Francis McIver, mason, Age: 13, Address: College Wynd, Edinburgh, with father Daniel Bain, Age: 14, tailor, Address: c/o Joan Gow, Canongate, Edinburgh Associated places NA4265 Scotland Reference Title Date JC26 High Court of Justiciary processes 1550-1997 Country code GB Repository code 234 Repository National Archives of Scotland Reference JC26/1835/544 Title Trial papers relating to Francis McIver, Daniel Bain for the crime of theft, habit and repute, and previous conviction. Tried at High Court, Edinburgh Dates 19 May 1835 Access status Open Level File Finding aids 19th Century Solemn Database Related record AD14/35/428 Accused Francis McIver, son of Francis McIver, mason, Verdict: Guilty, Sentence: Transportation - 7 years Previous convictions: theft. Note: Pannel cannot write. Daniel Bain, Verdict: Guilty, Sentence: Transportation - 7 years Previous convictions: theft

Hi Rick Have you thought about getting copies of the precognition and trial papers? They can be quite informative, but can also be quite costly. I did this for papers relating to an ancestor and the NAS itemised a list of the documents that were available, and the charge for copying each document. I ordered them all, but I could have been more selective. I started off by hiring a researcher to look at the papers to see what information was available, and to confirm that it was my ancestor. She fitted this in with another visit to the Archives and she charged me £10 for the visit. I think you may have to do this if you want to find out a bit more about him. I looked for his father on the 1841 Census and couldn't find a Francis McIver in Edinburgh. But there was one in Glasgow He was 40-45, a cotton spinner, born in Ireland. Going back to your convict, the name 'Francis' suggests that he may have been a Roman Catholic in which case his birth, if registered, will not be on the Scotlands People (SP) website - yet. At present only Church of Scotland registers between 1553 and 1854 are kept on SP. Statutory registration was not introduced until 1855 in Scotland, and not all births and marriages were registered before then. He may of course have been born in Ireland. I googled "College Wynd" and found that Sir Walter Scott was born there in 1771. There is a wonderful old photograph, of a rather delapidated College Wynd in 1870 here: http://www.walterscott.lib.ed.ac.uk/biography/homes.html [click on the thumbnail to see a full-sized photo] Regards Rhoda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Smith" <ricksmith61@gmail.com> To: <SCT-EDINBURGH@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 4:27 AM Subject: [SCT-EDINBURGH] Francis McIVER about 1822 Edinburgh - child convictto Australia > Hi, > > I'm looking for more information about Francis McIVER. The following > is found in the Scottish Archives: > > RReference Title Date > AD14 Crown Office precognitions 1801-1900 > AD14/35 Crown Office precognitions, 1835 1835 > Country code GB > Repository code 234 > Repository National Archives of Scotland > Reference AD14/35/428 > Title Precognition against Francis McIver, Daniel Bain for the crime > of theft, habit and repute, and previous conviction > Dates 1835 > Access status Open > Level File > Finding aids 19th Century Solemn Database > Related record JC26/1835/544 > Accused Francis McIver, son of Francis McIver, mason, Age: 13, > Address: College Wynd, Edinburgh, with father Daniel Bain, Age: 14, > tailor, Address: c/o Joan Gow, Canongate, Edinburgh > Associated places > > NA4265 Scotland > > > > Reference Title Date > JC26 High Court of Justiciary processes 1550-1997 > Country code GB > Repository code 234 > Repository National Archives of Scotland > Reference JC26/1835/544 > Title Trial papers relating to Francis McIver, Daniel Bain for the > crime of theft, habit and repute, and previous conviction. Tried at > High Court, Edinburgh > Dates 19 May 1835 > Access status Open > Level File > Finding aids 19th Century Solemn Database > Related record AD14/35/428 > > Accused Francis McIver, son of Francis McIver, mason, Verdict: > Guilty, Sentence: Transportation - 7 years Previous convictions: > theft. Note: Pannel cannot write. Daniel Bain, Verdict: Guilty, > Sentence: Transportation - 7 years Previous convictions: theft > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-EDINBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >