I have found the IGI a very useful tool when locating births, marriages of relatives, but I have found it less than successful locating deaths. Can anyone recommend a site that may assist me with deaths in 1910 and later? The area in question would more than likely be Edinburgh or Leith. Thanks, Brett Prentice Brisbane Australia

Hello List Having photocopied a page of the Edinburgh 1851 census index for Canongate I have these families: TEARNEY TEMPELTON TEMPLE 3 households TEMPLETON 4 households Also the family of William TENNANT letter carrier, but they may go over the page. By cross referencing with the street codes I can tell you where they lived. This does not include any individuals of different names in the households because they would be indexed elsewhere. Nor does it include the institutions, this is just the main index. And it is ONLY the Canongate district. Please do get in touch if you have these names in your family. I'm afraid I have no plans to return to the library in the near future owing to pressure of work so please don't deluge me with unrelated lookups, this is all I have available. Judy Copywriter@tesco.net

Brett: I don't know of a consolidated death registry for Edinburgh, but I have found the following films from the LDS Family History Center useful. The list is not all inclusive, there are probably more. 1. Film No. 304664 - Canongate Burials, 1789 - 93 2. Film No. 1040213 - St. Cuthbert Burials 1844 - 45 and index; also St. Buccleuch and Dalsy Cemetery 3. Film No. 1066748 - Edinburgh Parish Burials 1785 -1839 4. Film No. 1067745 - Canongate Burials indexed 1718 -43, burials 1743 -93 5. Film No. 1066746 - Canongate Burials 1621 - 1650, 1706 - 19, Holyrood burials 1793 -1814 6. Film No. 1067748 - Canongate Burials 1785 - 1834 7. Film No. 1067749 - Canongate Burials 1830 -54 8. Film No. 1067750 - Canonogate Burials Index 1820 -54, Holyrood burials 1820 -54, neglected birth entries 1830 - 72 9. Film No. 1067751 - Canongate Burial index 1744 - 1862 (also has a typewritten birth index 1795 - 1830 and a birth index 1831 -54) Hope these help. Richard Robertson

Hi Could someone with access to the 1841 census for Castlebarns Edinburgh, please please please do a lookup for me for the occupants at 7 Spence's Place,Castlebarns, Edinburgh I would be so very greatfull for the help. Thankyou jkay. Researching NOTMAN Fife > Edinburgh SIMPSON Fife and Edinburgh, WATSON Kirkcaldy and Edinburgh, WALKER Fife MORRISON Fife ==== SCT-EDINBURGH Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from list mode, send a new email to sct-edinburgh-l-request@rootsweb.com and put the word unsubscribe in the message box. Do not add any other words, text, or email addresses to the message. You will receive an email confirmation notice telling you that you are no longer on the mail list.

34 carnegie street must have been a massive building or very crowded - or perhaps it was some kind of court. Anyway it took up most of an enumeration book. Went through it twice and couldnt see your HENDERSONs. Judy Copywriter@tesco.net searching BRIGHT, CRUMP, WHITEHEAD, WATKISS, SHORE, HOPE EDWARDS, WRIGHT (all Salop) INSKIP (Salop/Staffs), MARTIN (Staffs), MITCHELL (SCT and CHS/Lancs), SMITH, AITCHISON, THORBURN (all DFS), McRAE (Lewis/L'pool), HOWARTH (Lancs), OLSEN (N'way,L'pool), WESTON (Salop/L'pool), EDWARDS(Flint), and VIGGOR (CHS/L'pool/Salop) ---------- >From: "Alan Emery" <bante@tpg.com.au> >To: SCT-EDINBURGH-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [EDB] 1861 census lookup 34 Carnegie St >Date: Mon, Mar 26, 2001, 10:26 am > > I am in need of some SKS with access to the 1861 census for Edinburgh, to > lookup premises 34 Carnegie Street. > > I am seeking Thomas Henderson, about 26 yrs of age, a joiner Journeyman. > Born Scotland. > > Should be with his wife Isabella, and sons George, Robert James and John T. > Henderson. > > Essential I glean his parish of birth, and this is the only method available > to me at this time. > > TIA, > > Alan > > > ==== SCT-EDINBURGH Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from list mode, send a new email to > sct-edinburgh-l-request@rootsweb.com and put the word unsubscribe in the > message box. Do not add any other words, text, or email addresses to the > message. You will receive an email confirmation notice telling you that > you are no longer on the mail list. > >

I could spit, I had this lot tracked down on the film but it wouldn't print and I pressed the wrong button and the whole reel rewound. Didnt have any more time so I am afraid I can only give you the index entry which is: Taylor William HD M 40 Labourer LGW Bathgate (Book 20 page 10 sche 49) Taylor Mary WI M 39 DNB Cumbernauld Taylor Alexander SO U 16 DNB Cumbernauld Taylor William SO U 14 DNB Cumbernauld Taylor Christopher DA 9 [?name or gender] Scholar STI Falkirk (Book 20 page 11 shed 49) Taylor John SO 5 Scholar MLN Edinburgh Taylor Helen DA 2 NBL Tweedmouth The three youngest were on the next page and but from the codes you can tell they are the same family. The street address was number 44 which is the code for Campbell's Close, Big Jack's Close being Code 31. But it would seem pretty certain this is them. Campbell's Close was heavily populated and had no house numbers altho you can tell separate households from the schedule numbers. Altho I didnt notice him when I was looking at the film the index shows a Robert TAYLOR on the same page - unmarried 29 yr old shoemaker born Edinburgh. He was a lodger, dont know who with. As you can see Helen was born in NBL which I think is Northumberland. Which is rather handy since this would of course put her into the Civil Reg timeframe. from the brief look I had at the film I dont think there was any more info to be gleaned. Judy Copywriter@tesco.net searching BRIGHT, CRUMP, WHITEHEAD, WATKISS, SHORE, HOPE EDWARDS, WRIGHT (all Salop) INSKIP (Salop/Staffs), MARTIN (Staffs), MITCHELL (SCT and CHS/Lancs), SMITH, AITCHISON, THORBURN (all DFS), McRAE (Lewis/L'pool), HOWARTH (Lancs), OLSEN (N'way,L'pool), WESTON (Salop/L'pool), EDWARDS(Flint), and VIGGOR (CHS/L'pool/Salop) ---------- >From: "Robin Taylor" <RobinLorna@robin0.fsnet.co.uk> >To: SCT-EDINBURGH-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [EDB] 1851 Census Look up please >Date: Thu, Nov 9, 2000, 4:57 pm > > Would be very grateful if SKS with access to the 1851 census for Edinburgh > could look up the TAYLOR family > at 4 Big Jacks Close, 255 Canongate, Edinburgh. > > Would like to know the age and birthplace of WILLIAM TAYLOR > the head of household. > > Also included in census should be wife MARY > and children - Alexander, William, Christina, John and Helen > > Many thanks > Rob > > > ==== SCT-EDINBURGH Mailing List ==== > Need mail list help? Contact Carol Hepburn at chepburn@uswest.net > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog > >

Hello All I have had several people tell me that the Hidden Families article by, Stuart Mitchell came out all funny with "wierd objects". I dont know why it did that, only a few came out that way. It came originaly as a Word 6 doc. and I converted it to a txt. doc, to insert it into the email. This might have something to do with it, it did lose alot of great farmatting in the conversion. Anyone who would like the original Word 6.doc, I will be happy to send it off. It's "one" of the most intersting articles in my whole genealogical adventure so far. Im sure Stuart would want you all to have it the way it was originaly intended. By the way, he had this article published a few years back in the Journal of Abeerdeen & N.E.Scotland Family History Library Society. (in fact an interim research report on the OPR (Invera'an) and RC registers of Glenlivet by him is there as well. If anyone can get this on disc, please send it my way. I was in contact with Stuart about a month ago when I was given permission to post this article, I was shocked to hear he had passed 1 day before I ended up sending. Something said to post that article, and thats what I did. Anyone who would like the original please let me know, just give me about a week to do it all once. I have never been to Scotland but I hope this helps. Hopefully I'll make it out some day, Im ony 28 Ive got some time left. -J.McComb-S.California-Researching Clan MacKintosh and Clan Chattan-

Hi List, does anyone have a web site or email adress for the following 2 cemetries in edinburgh. mt. vernon & liberton. thanks. margaret.

Hi Judy, what a frustration for you. You made me chuckle with your expression but I could appreciate how maddening it was. Where did you find the 1851 census? Can I order that from LDS? I am tracking MCCaull, McCall, Hodge from Edinburgh. ----- Original Message ----- From: "J A Olsen" <Copywriter@tesco.net> To: <SCT-EDINBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 10:52 AM Subject: [EDB] TAYLOR 1851 census > I could spit, I had this lot tracked down on the film but it wouldn't print > and I pressed the wrong button and the whole reel rewound. Didnt have any > more time so I am afraid I can only give you the index entry which is: > > Taylor William HD M 40 Labourer LGW Bathgate (Book 20 page 10 sche 49) > Taylor Mary WI M 39 DNB Cumbernauld > Taylor Alexander SO U 16 DNB Cumbernauld > Taylor William SO U 14 DNB Cumbernauld > > Taylor Christopher DA 9 [?name or gender] Scholar STI Falkirk (Book 20 page > 11 shed 49) > Taylor John SO 5 Scholar MLN Edinburgh > Taylor Helen DA 2 NBL Tweedmouth > > The three youngest were on the next page and but from the codes you can tell > they are the same family. > > The street address was number 44 which is the code for Campbell's Close, Big > Jack's Close being Code 31. But it would seem pretty certain this is them. > > Campbell's Close was heavily populated and had no house numbers altho you > can tell separate households from the schedule numbers. > > Altho I didnt notice him when I was looking at the film the index shows a > Robert TAYLOR on the same page - unmarried 29 yr old shoemaker born > Edinburgh. He was a lodger, dont know who with. > > As you can see Helen was born in NBL which I think is Northumberland. Which > is rather handy since this would of course put her into the Civil Reg > timeframe. > > from the brief look I had at the film I dont think there was any more info > to be gleaned. > > Judy > > > > Copywriter@tesco.net > searching BRIGHT, CRUMP, WHITEHEAD, WATKISS, SHORE, HOPE EDWARDS, WRIGHT > (all Salop) INSKIP (Salop/Staffs), MARTIN (Staffs), MITCHELL (SCT and > CHS/Lancs), SMITH, AITCHISON, THORBURN (all DFS), McRAE (Lewis/L'pool), > HOWARTH (Lancs), OLSEN (N'way,L'pool), WESTON (Salop/L'pool), > EDWARDS(Flint), and VIGGOR (CHS/L'pool/Salop) > > ---------- > >From: "Robin Taylor" <RobinLorna@robin0.fsnet.co.uk> > >To: SCT-EDINBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: [EDB] 1851 Census Look up please > >Date: Thu, Nov 9, 2000, 4:57 pm > > > > > Would be very grateful if SKS with access to the 1851 census for Edinburgh > > could look up the TAYLOR family > > at 4 Big Jacks Close, 255 Canongate, Edinburgh. > > > > Would like to know the age and birthplace of WILLIAM TAYLOR > > the head of household. > > > > Also included in census should be wife MARY > > and children - Alexander, William, Christina, John and Helen > > > > Many thanks > > Rob > > > > > > ==== SCT-EDINBURGH Mailing List ==== > > Need mail list help? Contact Carol Hepburn at chepburn@uswest.net > > > > ============================== > > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > > your heritage! > > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog > > > > > > > ==== SCT-EDINBURGH Mailing List ==== > Need mail list help? Contact Carol Hepburn at chepburn@uswest.net >

Hi, Is anyone able to look-up the birth and death of John MacDonald? It is more than likely he was born in Edinburgh His birth year was 1853 approx. and death year 1910. His father was Murdoch MacDonald. John married a Janet Maclaren. They lived in Hillside Crescent, Edinburgh and had twelve children, names unknown. Thanks, Brett Prentice Brisbane, Australia

> With the greatly appreciated help of Judy I now know that my ancestor, > William Murray BORTHWICK was a Printer and then a Spirit Dealer living at 6 > Brown St, Edinburgh from 1823-1826. Hello Ann, Brown Street is just off the Pleasance, in south-central Edinburgh. Let me know if you want me to go have a look at number 6, the next time I'm in that part of town. I'm intrigued by your post, since I have a mysterious BORTHWICK connection to my SANDERSON line: a Helen BORTHWICK turns up from time to time - she was witness at a SANDERSON wedding in 1871, and a child of a different marriage was named Helen Borthwick SANDERSON. Would it be a coincidence that the head of the family, Peter SANDERSON, also at one time lived near the Pleasance, and was also associated with the whisky trade? Liz

Thought this might interest some of us: http://www.ifb.net/webit/recipes.htm -- Best Wishes Angela<boon.bluecats@ntlworld.com> Pettistree Homepage http://www.pettistree.suffolk.gov.uk/

Having recently been 'perusing' an LDS film of original parish records (Abbotshall, Fife) which began in 1650, I agree with the previous comments regarding odd, or unexpected spelling. However, think about writing these days - if I'm in a hurry, my normally 'fair hand' soon becomes a scrawl, and at times, I am hard pressed to read what I have written! Also, spelling had not become 'standardised to the extent we accept these days (American versions of English notwithstanding:-)!!) How many people were literate then? I suspect we'd all get on easier if we could read with an accent. Good hunting, Ruth in Brum (Birmingham, England....you have to know that the locals pronounced it 'Brummagem!) Searching in Fife: LESSELS, all variations, 1650 - present, plus MOORHEAD, GRAY & lots more. In Edinburgh: LESSELS, DUNCAN, BRYDEN 1850 - present.

I am researching the Stewarts of Cragganester, near Lawers in Perthshire. Angus Stewart taught at St. Boswell's Scholl for about 20 years around 1870 to 1890. Can anyone point me in the direction of information on teachers, or perhaps St. Boswell's? Margaret in Toronto

Dear Edinburgh and Midlothian Listers With the greatly appreciated help of Judy I now know that my ancestor, William Murray BORTHWICK was a Printer and then a Spirit Dealer living at 6 Brown St, Edinburgh from 1823-1826. Could anyone on the list tell me please whether this address still exists, and if so what is there now? Would it be the building the Borthwick family lived in? And my second question - is anyone able to tell me a little more about spirit dealers in Edinburgh in the 1820s? Would WM Borthwick have had a shop, or a hotel? Would he have needed a licence to sell spirits? (In Australia these were needed in the first half of the 19th century & the records are very helpful) I searched for Brown St on the internet tonight and found a sign that I must travel to Scotland! (Well, this is my story and I'm sticking to it.) I found "Edinburgh Flats" in Brown St, right near the Royal Mile and Old town and all the places I must visit in the interests of my family research! I think Edinburgh Flats must be at the other end of Brown St but I'm sure I'm meant to go to Scotland and stay there for a week or two (wistful sighs). Thanks in anticipation Ann Carson (Sydney, Australia) annmacarthurc@ozemail.com.au Borthwick Web Site http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~anncarson/ Researching in Scotland (1700-1850s Lanarkshire, Dumfriesshire, Midlothian, Peeblesshire, Stirling): ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ B O R T H W I C K (descendants of John Borthwick & Elizabeth Dinwoodie of Kirkpatrick Juxta, Moffat, Tweedsmuir, Drumelzier, Biggar) B R O W N (Robert & Jessie, m. Anderston 1867) D I N W O O D I E (Dumfries) L A I N G (Denny, Stirling) L I L L I E (Biggar, Glasgow) Mc (K) N I G H T (Moffat, Glasgow), M E I K L E (Tradeston, Anderston, Hutchesontown) P A T E R S O N (Lanark, Liverpool ENG)

What Bill says is very important to anyone used to searching on the more 'forgiving' LDS site or even the 1881 discs. Scots Origins is very precise. After several visits I found the key to successful searching was the judicious use of the wildcard. eg Ann will not give you Anne, but Ann* will. Basically, the site only chucks out what you ask for. Since this is pay per download, I think it's a plus. But it does take a bit of getting used to. Judy Copywriter@tesco.net

Ann: I can relate what I've found about my second great grandfather Thomas ROBERTSON. He was most often listed as a spirits dealer, but sometimes as a merchant (I presume selling spirits). In the 1820's and 1830's he lived in Lady Yester's Parish but did business and attended church in Canongate Parish. I don't have any information about a license. Richard Robertson

Good Evening Folks Can some kind soul please help me with a lookup on the 1851 Census for Edinburgh, I am hoping to find John Macgillivray aged 27 and his wife Frances Elizabeth Scott aged 28, their children Margaret 7, James 4, Finlayson Andrew aged 2. The family immigrated to South Africa in May 1859 and their death notices all state that they were born in Edinburgh, Scotland. Thank you in advance Jenny Craig

Hi Listers, Anyone connect to my following family, can only find my direct line, where are the others??? CAMPBELL John born in Perthshire = Margaret Paton of Blackford 1768 in Edinburgh. Children born various Edinburgh Parishes - Ann born 1770 John born 1772 Janet born 1773 John born 1776* Margaret born 1778 Gabriel born 1780. John* = Euphemia GARDNER dau of Peter GARNDER of Dunbar 1798 in Edinburgh. Children all born there- Janet born 1799 Archibald born 1801 Margaret born 1803 Finlay born 1805[1841 Census,basketmaker,lodger] Euphemia born 1807 Peter Gardner* born 1813 Euphemia born 1815 Allison born 1820 Peter Gardner* = Jean/Jane FRASER at St Chutberts 1833, they had 5 children in Scotland[no trace of event] & 4 further in New Zealand after 1848. Anyone ot there connect ????? Regards, Barbara Stirling.

I have also found it useful to write down a name in as many ways as possible ahead of time, one over the other in a columnar fashion. Align all the same letters and then just fill in the odd-ball with the * as Judy said. Example: Mary Ann McLeod Mary Anne MacLeod Mariann M'Cleod Marianne McLoed etc. changes to Mar* M*Leod Mariann* McL**d Mar* Ann* M*C*eod MacL**d etc. Then pick the one that will give you the most bang for your lollie! Al J A Olsen wrote: > > What Bill says is very important to anyone used to searching on the more > 'forgiving' LDS site or even the 1881 discs. >