Hi Dawn - sorry to hear my gold.net address is bouncing back - I have two addresses so try shyama@emerge.net.au that should get me ok Look forward to hearing about your Robertsons Shyama Peebles Laverton Western Australia -----Original Message----- From: Bkdesertrat@aol.com <Bkdesertrat@aol.com> To: SCT-EDINBURGH-L@rootsweb.com <SCT-EDINBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, 4 April 2001 1:28 Subject: [EDB] ROBERTSON FAMILY Would Shyama Peebles <shyama@gold.net.au> please contact me off list regarding your ROBERTSON familiy in Edinburgh? I have tried emailing you directly but it bounces back. Thanks. Dawn, in southern CA, USA ==== SCT-EDINBURGH Mailing List ==== Need mail list help? Contact Carol Hepburn at chepburn@uswest.net

Would Shyama Peebles <shyama@gold.net.au> please contact me off list regarding your ROBERTSON familiy in Edinburgh? I have tried emailing you directly but it bounces back. Thanks. Dawn, in southern CA, USA

My husband's grandfather and greatgrandfather were publicans in Leith in the late 1800s and early 1900s. Grandfather was Stanley HILL (married Nellie MORRIS), great grandfather was John HILL (married Louisa MACKAY). In 1881 the family lived at 21, Bernard St. In 1900 Stanley lived at 8, Gladstone Place. Does anyone have a trade directory which might give the name of the pub/s in question? Any information gratefully received! Regards, Jan Hill ----- Original Message ----- From: <SCT-EDINBURGH-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <SCT-EDINBURGH-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 8:40 PM Subject: SCT-EDINBURGH-D Digest V01 #99

Hi Listers, I wonder if someone could tell me if there is any significance in the "Mr" of this death in the OPR's: 1834 Dec 25 MURRAY Mr Robert Clerk age 45 address: 27 E. William Street Inflamation On the daughter’s death cert: her father - Robert MURRAY (Register House clerk) Also - where would East William Street have been? I have been having some problems getting through to http://www.old-maps.co.uk/ Cheers Agnes

Hi Angela, It varies from session clerk to session clerk for the amount of information which they recorded, typically they usually don't include the parents of the bride & groom, however you may sometimes get the father's name of the bride, if your lucky. More often than not the names of the couples children are a good clue to the identify of their parents as are often the witnesses at the children's christenings, as these tended to be the Grandfather's of the child, if they were still alive. Regards, James Motion Scotland. ----- Original Message ----- From: =^.^= Angela Boon To: SCT-EDINBURGH-L@rootsweb.com Sent: 02 April 2001 18:54 Subject: [EDB] Marriage of 1818 - What Details Would It Include Can anyone tell me what details a marriage entry for 1818 would include please? Would the parents of the bride & groom be noted for example? -- Best Wishes Angela<boon.bluecats@ntlworld.com> --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.231 / Virus Database: 112 - Release Date: 2001-02-12

Can anyone tell me what details a marriage entry for 1818 would include please? Would the parents of the bride & groom be noted for example? -- Best Wishes Angela<boon.bluecats@ntlworld.com> Pettistree Homepage http://www.pettistree.suffolk.gov.uk/

I am looking for my ggrandparents. His name was John Cochrane and hers was Wilhemina Scott McKay. His obit states he was b. in Edinburgh and Wilhemina was born in Amcrum. The dates don't match, but this is the info I have. Obit states John died Dec. 8. 1909 65 years ago last August and he emigrated to America at the age of 25 years. He married Miss Mina McKay the next year after his arrival in America. He was a farmer. The cemetery records state he was 65y 4m 8d old which would make his birth date July 31, or August 1,1844 The marriage took place on Jan 1, 1873 and his age is listed as 27. If he was born in 1844 and came to America at the age of 25 that would be after August 1869 and the obit states he married the next year which would be 1870 but the marriage date I have is 1873. The newspaper announcement for their marriage states:Cochran-McKay Jan. 3rd at the residence of the minister, John Cochran and Miss Minnie Scott McKay and another article from the Early Marriages states: Cockran, John, 27. Minnie S. McKay, 23, m on Jan. 3,1873 at the residence of the minister. Witnesses were James McKay and David Brown. Her dates don't match either as the cemetery records state she died Jan, 29, 1935 at the age of 79y 3m 16d which would make her birth date Oct. 13,1855 and if she was 23 when she married in 1873 she would have been born about 1849. Marianne Senecal

Yes, this used to be a common practice which seems to vary from place to place. I am originally from Edinburgh. If we had a tea leaf ending up near the rim of the cup you would be getting a visitor and/or a letter! Some people turned the cup upside down and turned it three times before reading... I still enjoy a cup of tea made with 'real' tea leaves.. not so sure about the reading bit though - good for a laugh..

Hi Folks, Looking for any-one who has come across the above names or similar sounding variations. Thanks.

Hello Shyama, I have BANKS in my family my 3rd ggrandparents were ROBERT BANKS and VIOLET NEIL marriage 22 May 1815 St Cuthberts Edinburgh, I have found three children for them on IGI probably more. GRACE b 2 Feb 1822 CATHERINE b 26 Nov 1824 ELIZABETH b 18 May 1816 All born Edinburgh GRACE BANKS married ROBERT GRAY 22 May 1837 South Leith, Edinburgh. GRACE was my 2nd ggrandmother. If you have any of these names I would be pleased to hear from you Regards Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: Shyama Peebles <shyama@gold.net.au> To: <SCT-EDINBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> > > As for my family history I am looking for the following names > in Edinburgh - > Peebles, Robertson, Euman, Sinclair, Whyte Purvis/es > McDiarmid, Malcolm, Marshall, McKenzie, Clark, Seaton, > Nimmo, Banks, McLean, > I would love to hear from anyone with any of these names. > > Shyama Heather Peebles > Laverton > Western Australia > > > > ==== SCT-EDINBURGH Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from list mode, send a new email to sct-edinburgh-l-request@rootsweb.com and put the word unsubscribe in the message box. Do not add any other words, text, or email addresses to the message. You will receive an email confirmation notice telling you that you are no longer on the mail list. >

You are missing out on an excellent resource. Check out this site: http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp Good hunting. ----- Original Message ----- From: gsweet <gsweet@bellsouth.net> To: <SCT-EDINBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2001 3:59 PM Subject: [EDB] Helen Paton > Hi List > Looking for a family connection from Edinburgh, Helen(Nellie) Paton > born 1823 daughter of James Paton and Ann Unknown married to a James > Bowers born 1824 from Glasgow Son of James Bowers and Agnes > Unknown. They emigrated to Providence Rhode Island USA prior > to 1850. Any leads would be appreciated. > Thanks > George Sweet > > > ==== SCT-EDINBURGH Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from list mode, send a new email to sct-edinburgh-l-request@rootsweb.com and put the word unsubscribe in the message box. Do not add any other words, text, or email addresses to the message. You will receive an email confirmation notice telling you that you are no longer on the mail list. > >

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Hi List Looking for a family connection from Edinburgh, Helen(Nellie) Paton born 1823 daughter of James Paton and Ann Unknown married to a James Bowers born 1824 from Glasgow Son of James Bowers and Agnes Unknown. They emigrated to Providence Rhode Island USA prior to 1850. Any leads would be appreciated. Thanks George Sweet

Many families in Scotland (& Ireland) had at least one member who "had the powers" -There was a Scottish word for it " Fey" or Fay" - perhaps wrong spelling I remember my mother refering to someone as " she's fey" - seemed it was always women never men In my family my mother read "the cards" -the next door neighbour read "the leaves" (tea leaves) and the woman down the road read the crystal ball (a proper one) And between those 3 women they knew everything that was happening in the district !! as a kids we couldnt get away with doing anything - They could see it !!!!! As for my family history I am looking for the following names in Edinburgh - Peebles, Robertson, Euman, Sinclair, Whyte Purvis/es McDiarmid, Malcolm, Marshall, McKenzie, Clark, Seaton, Nimmo, Banks, McLean, I would love to hear from anyone with any of these names. Shyama Heather Peebles Laverton Western Australia

Dear Robin, Lots of people claimed the ability to read tea leaves. It was a common practice among women with nothing else to do but dwell in 'old wives tales.' The introduction of tea bags and an unhealthy diet of 'soap operas' and UFO's has taken its place! People will believe anything, except in God! Regards Graham

My mother, who came to Canada as a war-bride, could read the tea leaves a bit. This was before the advent of tea bags which probably ended this practice. When I had finished my tea, she would look at where the leaves were in the cup. I seem to remember turning the cup over on the saucer and turning it around three times. I thing a single leaf near the top meant a letter. The Greeks follow almost the same practice with the grounds left in Greek coffee. Margaret in Toronto

In a message dated 3/31/01 5:27:16 PM Pacific Standard Time, shyama@gold.net.au writes: > Many families in Scotland (& Ireland) had at least one > member who "had the powers" -There was a Scottish > word for it " Fey" or Fay" - perhaps wrong spelling > I remember my mother refering to someone as > " she's fey" - seemed it was always women never men > > In my family my mother read "the cards" -the next door > neighbour read "the leaves" (tea leaves) and the woman > down the road read the crystal ball (a proper one) > And between those 3 women they knew everything that was > happening in the district !! as a kids we couldnt get away > with doing anything - They could see it !!!!! > > As for my family history I am looking for the following names > in Edinburgh - > Peebles, Robertson, Euman, Sinclair, Whyte Purvis/es > McDiarmid, Malcolm, Marshall, McKenzie, Clark, Seaton, > Nimmo, Banks, McLean, > I would love to hear from anyone with any of these names. > > Shyama Heather Peebles > Laverton > Western Australia > > Hi there Shyama and everyone else, I had to smile at your post. My mother read the tea leaves, an older lady had taught her when she was young. She always knew what us kids were up to and this was before we had a phone. We never could figure out how she knew! LOL! I am also researching Peebles. My grgrgrgranny was Janet Peebles born Sept 1 1799 and married to Hugh Jamieson in Newton Edinburgh on May 5 1819. All the men in our family were miners. Any connections? Elaine in California Interested names : MILLAR JAMIESON PEEBLES MOFFAT THOMSON McINTOSH PRYDE HERKES ARCHIBALD McCAVELL

Hi list, Has anyone on the list ever heard about anyone in Scotland reading Tea Leaves?? Heard a tale about one of my ancestors who supposedly was known for her expertise in reading Tea Leaves! She came from Edinburgh. Thanks, Robin

Hello , I am trying to find information on Peter Hughes. He was born abt. 1866 in Canongate, Edinburgh, Scotland. His father was John Hughes. Do not know his mother's name. Peter had a brother John L. Hughes, from which our line descends. His mother was Margaret Lindsay, who died in 1862 shortly after John was born. I have Peter and John L. Hughes in the 1881 Newbattle, Edinburgh, Scotland census living with John L. Hughes's aunt and uncle Geoge and Janet Lindsay. John L. was in Pennsylvania by 1889, but Peter stayed. There is talk that he opened a wine store in Edinburgh. Would anyone happen to have any information on Peter or his father John. Thank you, Debbie

-I don't know about Scotland, but we lived in London and I think the practice was quite common. My Mum was a firm believer in what the tea leaves foretold. There was a neighbor lady who read them for her all the time. A "floating" tea leaf in your cup ( before the advent of teabags!) meant you were going to have a visitor. Then we would put it on the back of the hand and give it a slap while saying the name of the day. We would keep going until the tea leaf was gone, then the last day mentioned was the day to expect this visitor. Thanks for the memories. Chris >Hi list, >Has anyone on the list ever heard about anyone in Scotland reading Tea >Leaves?? >Heard a tale about one of my ancestors who supposedly was known for her >expertise in reading Tea Leaves! She came from Edinburgh. >Thanks, Robin > > >==== SCT-EDINBURGH Mailing List ==== >Need mail list help? Contact Carol Hepburn at chepburn@uswest.net > >