Hi This is my first posting to this list so I'll run down what I'm searching for. I'm looking for information about Ferdinand Nathaniel Scheniman who was married in Edinburgh Parish, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland on January 23, 1798. He was employed as a Writer of the Signet and was living at 14 Howard Place, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland before 1832.His Wife's name was Emira Willison Clerk, and they had 3 children that I know of. Charles Shineman, born June 04, 1799, George Willison Scheniman, born May 28, 1801, and Hope Scheniman born June 04, 1803. Charles Is my ancestor. Steve S. Ontario, Canada

In a message dated 4/7/01 9:01:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time, SCT-EDINBURGH-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > In the 1851 Census for St Cuthbert's, Canongate, Edinburgh, John was 56 > years of age and Annie age 58 on same census. Mary - Since they were both alive in 1851 - have you tried looking for death certificates for them? If you can't find them -- it would strongly suggest that they died before 1855. If you do find them -- it will give you their location at time of death and (of course) their parents names. Just a thought, Sheila

Hi Roy, You might like to try checking the shipping information, this may give an indication of where in Scotland they came from. This site might help http://www.theshipslist.com/ Robina, Bris. Aus. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Sheila225@aol.com> To: <SCT-EDINBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 9:50 PM Subject: [EDB] SCT-EDINBURGH Re:John Bruce > Roy - > > A quick check of the IGI shows a patron submitted record for their marriage > in 1788 > > John BRUCE > Sex: M > Marriage(s): > Spouse: Katherine Kitty RHODES > Marriage: Abt. 1788 > Branchville, Orangeburg, South Carolina > LDS Film # 1985631 > > There is no "official" record for their marriage in Scotland (per the IGI). > The above record is part of data extracted from Mormon Temple documents - > meaning that the patron who submitted the data is/was a practicing Mormon and > undoubtedly related to this individual. Unfortunately, the film notes say > that there is no further information available, nor is the submitters > name/address available. > > So all this tells you is that someone (probably related) believes that their > marriage occurred in Orangeburg circa 1788. The use of an approximate date > suggests that the submitter was also unable to find a specific record - but > may have estimated the date based on other information. > > Hope this helps, > Sheila > > In a message dated 4/6/01 1:01:58 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > SCT-EDINBURGH-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > > > > > I'm new to the mailing list, and I need some information on these > > ancestors of mine. Here is all of the information that I have thus > > far: > > > > John Bruce b. March 22, 1756 in Edinburgh, Scotland (possibly > > Midlothian), d. March 22, 1831 in Old Orangeburg District, SC. m. > > Catherine Rhodes (various spellings). > > Children: > > Elijah Bruce b. October 24, 1797 (in Old Orangeburg District, SC) d. > > June 15, 1849 (in Old Orangeburg District, SC); > > Jane Barbara Bruce b. August 25, 1799 (in in Old Orangeburg District, > > SC) October 11, 1849 (in Old Orangeburg District, SC). > > > > What I am looking for is information relating to the above John Bruce, > > who apparently immigrated from Scotland to South Carolina in the late > > 18th century. I have no idea where or when he married Catherine > > Rhodes. Any assistance will be greatly appreciated. > > > > Thanks in advance, > > Roy Bruce > > > ==== SCT-EDINBURGH Mailing List ==== > Need mail list help? Contact Carol Hepburn at chepburn@uswest.net > >

Where in Edinburgh would a young man study to become a civil engineer in the period 1885 - 1900? University, Heriot-Watt (if it was in existence at that time) or some other place? Where would I find a record of civil engineers in that time period? Eileen

Hello List ... Ideally I wish someone would claim me or at least make correction or suggestions that might jumpstart me into action on this my only Scottish connections....that I know. Ann[ie] WATSON was born in 1793 in Morayshire, she married John McKAY, St Cuthbert's Church, 1816, Canongate, Edinburgh, SCT. Parents were Alexander and Margaret WATSON. Witnesses at the marriage were ... Alexander WATSON, father, and George McKAY labourer, both of Canongate, Edinburgh. Perhaps George was a brother to John. Walter, [my gg grandfather] born 1820, Alexander, Francis, George and John were the names of following sons of John and Annie ...there was 1 daughter, Isobella born 1817 in the Edinburgh parish. I cannot find anything about her marriage or death. In the 1851 Census for St Cuthbert's, Canongate, Edinburgh, John was 56 years of age and Annie age 58 on same census. I looked both up in the 1851 census BOOK whilst in the 'Edinburgh Room' of the Central Library, Edinburgh, SCT. The 'where born' information for John and Annie was WRITTEN IN ...[John McKAY born] "LAIRGE, SUT"., and for Annie it just had "MORAYSHIRE" for same. Apart from the above information there are some connecting details [in that ] on the Death Certificate of my g g grandfather Walter, [first son of John and Annie] name and occupation for father was JOHN,Type caster, and mother, Annie Watson. The informant was Walter's son, Sydney Walter. John and his sons were Type cast setters/Compositors. None of Walter' sons was a compositor. Looking back over the 1841 census I see that Margaret WATSON, Annie's mother [who was with John and Annie for the census] was age 70. No Alexander mentioned, guess he had died by then. John and Annie were in the 1841 and1851 Census for St Cuthbert's, Canongate, but when I tried for them in the 1861 and 1871 ditto ...there didn't seem to be a census for St Cuthbert's (as such). I ordered in a few census films for surrounding areas [just in case they had moved] with no results. Perhaps they had died in the ensuing years after the 1851 census. My next step is to follow up on sons Alexander,Francis, George and John in the 1881 census. Actually its all a bit of a race against time! The funny thing is that none of my children or grand children is interested in their forbears! I'm banking on them being more interested in 10 years or so .... I'll be long gone but I do want to create a reasonable platform for them to extend. Mary Shortis shortis@spot.com.au

In a message dated 4/6/01 1:15:37 PM Pacific Daylight Time, robinasneddon@powerup.com.au writes: > Hi Roy, > > You might like to try checking the shipping information, this may give an > indication of where in Scotland they came from. > > This site might help http://www.theshipslist.com/ > > Robina, Bris. Aus. > > > Great site - thanks so much for the address..................Elaine

Hi all DAVID ANDERSON born about 1767 and JANET MILN(E) (sometimes MILL) born 1771 married in Lanark 26 June 1791 Their children all born in Lanark GEORGE 1793, ELLIOT 1796, ALEXANDER 1798, JAMES 1801 ANNE 1803, ELIZABETH 1806, and ROBERT 1809 ROBERT ANDERSON married MARGARET McKENZIE in Edinburgh 14 July 1834. Margaret born Edinburgh 8-10-1811 to KENNETH McKENZIE & HELEN SMAILL Their 8 children and their children all born in Edinburgh. 1. ELLEN (1836 - 1889) m. 11 Jan 1859 to PETER PATON (1818 - 1890) --------Alexander 1860, Margaret Alice 1861, Alice 1863 Ellen 1865-1942, Robert Anderson 1867. 2. JESSIE (1838 - 1909) unmarried, died in Shandon, Dunbartonshire. 3. MARGARET (1841 - after 1891) unmarried 4. ELIZABETH (1842 - 1913) m. 2 June 1868 to THOMAS MEIN (1844 - 1900) --------Robert Elliot 1869-1870, Margaret Ann 1870-1931, Jessie 1873-1941 Annie Yule 1875-1955, Thomas 1877-1935, William 1879-1940 James Bryson 1881-1916, Eliza 1884-1950. 5. ROBERT (1844 - after 1904) m. 28 May 1868 to HELEN KINNOCH (1844 - ?) --------Elizabeth 1872, Andrew 1879. 6. ANNE VIOLET (1847 - 1922) m. 3 June 1875 to ANDREW BORTHWICK (1845 - 1883) --------Jessie 1878-1916, Margaret 1879-1934, Alexander 1882, Robert 1883-1917. 7. SARAH (1847 - ?) 8. EMILY (1849 - ?) Any connections to the above? All the best Rob

Roy - A quick check of the IGI shows a patron submitted record for their marriage in 1788 John BRUCE Sex: M Marriage(s): Spouse: Katherine Kitty RHODES Marriage: Abt. 1788 Branchville, Orangeburg, South Carolina LDS Film # 1985631 There is no "official" record for their marriage in Scotland (per the IGI). The above record is part of data extracted from Mormon Temple documents - meaning that the patron who submitted the data is/was a practicing Mormon and undoubtedly related to this individual. Unfortunately, the film notes say that there is no further information available, nor is the submitters name/address available. So all this tells you is that someone (probably related) believes that their marriage occurred in Orangeburg circa 1788. The use of an approximate date suggests that the submitter was also unable to find a specific record - but may have estimated the date based on other information. Hope this helps, Sheila In a message dated 4/6/01 1:01:58 AM Eastern Daylight Time, SCT-EDINBURGH-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > > I'm new to the mailing list, and I need some information on these > ancestors of mine. Here is all of the information that I have thus > far: > > John Bruce b. March 22, 1756 in Edinburgh, Scotland (possibly > Midlothian), d. March 22, 1831 in Old Orangeburg District, SC. m. > Catherine Rhodes (various spellings). > Children: > Elijah Bruce b. October 24, 1797 (in Old Orangeburg District, SC) d. > June 15, 1849 (in Old Orangeburg District, SC); > Jane Barbara Bruce b. August 25, 1799 (in in Old Orangeburg District, > SC) October 11, 1849 (in Old Orangeburg District, SC). > > What I am looking for is information relating to the above John Bruce, > who apparently immigrated from Scotland to South Carolina in the late > 18th century. I have no idea where or when he married Catherine > Rhodes. Any assistance will be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks in advance, > Roy Bruce

List members, I am researching in Scotland the surname WHIGHAM (WHIGGAM- WIGAM-WIGHOLME, etc.) Any help out there? Thanks, Robert Whigham

Could SKS please give me some direction on what to do next? I am researching Mary THOMSON who was born in Edinburgh about 1894. Her father's name was Thomas THOMSON and I do know she had a brother Charles born October 20, 1896. She resided at 2 Forbes Street in Edinburgh, prior to marrying George Henry CRANSTON in about 1918. Is there any way I can get further information about her based upon this address? Sandra corradini@accglobal.net

Thanks for responding Shyama. Doesn't look like we have any link up. My Robertson family originally came from Berwick on Tweed, Northumberland, and it appears that they moved to Edinburgh sometime between 1868 and 1871. Just in case - here are my Robertsons....... William Robertson, my great grandfather, (his father: Adam) married Isabella Scott (her father, also an Adam) in Berwick on Tweed on Apr 10, 1857. Their children: Adam Robertson b about 1859 in BuT Alexander Roberston b about 1865 in BuT William Robertson b about 1868 in BuT James Robertson B Dec 1871 in Edinburgh ( my grandfather) Bella Robertson, b about 1875 in Edinburgh Mary Jane Robertson b about 1878 in Edinburgh On the 1881 census, they all lived at 6 Sunnybank Place, South Leith, Edinburgh. Keep in touch though, you never know!! Dawn.

Hello I am searching for the parents of Helen Nelson Robertson. She was born May 19,1903. She left Scotland in 1923. She gave her last residence in Scotland as Cowdenbeath. She bought her ticket in Glasgow, and arrived in Sault Ste. Marie Michigan USA Sept. 1, 1923. She had pictures that had Edinbugh written on the backs of them. We beleive she had relatives in both Edinburgh, and Cowdenbeath. One of her relatives may have died from a fall from the Firth of Forth Railway Bridge while it was being built. Does anyone have a list of the names of casualties from its construction? Does anyone have the ship passenger list for the Montlaurier which may be the ship that brought Helen to USA, through Canada. Thanks in Advance Cindy Elschide

Hi! I'm new to the mailing list, and I need some information on these ancestors of mine. Here is all of the information that I have thus far: John Bruce b. March 22, 1756 in Edinburgh, Scotland (possibly Midlothian), d. March 22, 1831 in Old Orangeburg District, SC. m. Catherine Rhodes (various spellings). Children: Elijah Bruce b. October 24, 1797 (in Old Orangeburg District, SC) d. June 15, 1849 (in Old Orangeburg District, SC); Jane Barbara Bruce b. August 25, 1799 (in in Old Orangeburg District, SC) October 11, 1849 (in Old Orangeburg District, SC). What I am looking for is information relating to the above John Bruce, who apparently immigrated from Scotland to South Carolina in the late 18th century. I have no idea where or when he married Catherine Rhodes. Any assistance will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Roy Bruce

Hi Shyama Peebles, My paternal grandmother was a Robertson from Edinburgh with the following ancestors. William ROBERTSON m Margaret ROBERTSON 18 Jan. 1836 in Inveresk. I Thomas ROBERTSON m Jessie McINNES 29 Nov. 1861 in Edinburgh b 26 Mar. 1837 d ? I Thomas ROBERTSON m Euphemia DALGLEISH 10 Jul. 1889 in Edinburgh b 29 Jan. 1866 d 25 Sep. 1946 I Margaret Dalgleish ROBERTSON m James MASON 2 Jun. 1911, Edinburgh b 9 Dec. 1890 d 15 May 1923 Are there any links?, Regards, Eric Ramsay Mason Reading UK ----- Original Message ----- From: <SCT-EDINBURGH-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <SCT-EDINBURGH-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2001 5:01 AM Subject: SCT-EDINBURGH-D Digest V01 #104

Hello Listers Gently placing "my" Elizabeth ROBERTSON in the ring here. She and her husband William BORTHWICK are not my family but I am researching them for someone else in Australia. William BORTHWICK married Elizabeth ROBERTSON, 27 January 1827 in St Cuthberts, Edinburgh. Found one child only for William Borthwick and Elizabeth Robertson, an Archibald born on 21 September 1818 in Edinburgh, (C119835 Fr 512). He was born however, nine years before this William and Elizabeth were married. Could he be the child of another couple? Could be illegitimate and have changed his birth date to match his parents marriage year. (ie the Archibald born in 1818 and the one born in 1827, see below, just might be the same person.) Another possibility is that the date on the IGI record is wrong and should be 1828?? Another is that the age at death below is wrong. And a further possibility is that there were two couples, William BORTHWICK and Elizabeth ROBERTSON. If anyone on the list can help on that point I'd be most grateful. Another (or a first) Archibald BORTHWICK was born to William Borthwick and Elizabeth ROBERTSON in 1827 in Edinburgh, Scotland (per Victoria Australia death index, died 4 December 1865 in Victoria (aged 38 years). I have not found him on the IGI etc so this birthdate may be quite wrong. Best wishes Ann Carson (Sydney, Australia) annmacarthurc@ozemail.com.au Researching in Scotland (1700-1850s Lanarkshire, Dumfriesshire, Midlothian, Peeblesshire, Stirling): ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ B O R T H W I C K (descendants of John Borthwick & Elizabeth Dinwoodie of Kirkpatrick Juxta, Moffat, Tweedsmuir, Drumelzier, Biggar) B R O W N (Robert & Jessie, m. Anderston 1867) D I N W O O D I E (Dumfries) L A I N G (Denny, Stirling) L I L L I E (Biggar, Glasgow) Mc (K) N I G H T (Moffat, Glasgow), M E I K L E (Tradeston, Anderston, Hutchesontown) P A T E R S O N (Lanark, Liverpool ENG) See http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~anncarson/

My Edinburgh Robertsons are as follows - its very brief as I havent been able to make any headway at all with this line John ROBERTSON mar unknown ch. Margaret Rigby Robertson b. 1835 Edinburgh mar 3 Aug 1855 Samuel PEEBLES b. abt 1829 Edinburgh ch. William Peebles b. 24 Oct 1856 Edin. ch. John Peebles b. 22 Feb 1858 Edin. ch. George Stherland Peebles b. 5 Mar 1860 Edin. ch. Margaret Rigby Peebles b. 18 Jun 1861 Glasgow ch. Albert Robertson Peebles b. 16 Nov 1862 ( my grandfather) ch. James Peebles b. 23 Jul 1865 Edin. ch. Jessie Oliver Peebles b. 19 Aug 1868 Edin ch. Alexander Downie Peebles b. 21 Jul 1871 Edin ch. Ann Chapman Peebles b. 2 Jun 1874 Edin. ch. Helen Peebles b. 1877 Edin Any help with this would be much appreciated - there are so many interesting middle names of the children but I have been unable to find how those names link in with the Peebles/Robertson families Shyama Peebles Laverton Western Australia -----Original Message----- From: Richard Robertson <richrob4@home.com> To: SCT-EDINBURGH-L@rootsweb.com <SCT-EDINBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, 4 April 2001 22:10 Subject: [EDB] Edinburgh Robertsons >Dawn and Shyama: >I would be interested in learning more about your Edinburgh Robertson lines. >You can check mine out at the URL below. > >Richard Robertson >richrob4@home.com >http://members.home.net/richrob4/index.htm > > >==== SCT-EDINBURGH Mailing List ==== >Need mail list help? Contact Carol Hepburn at chepburn@uswest.net > >

Ann: I would suggest you take the information in the IGI as a clue rather than fact. Does Archibald also appear in the Scottish Church Records CD with the same dates and parents? I would also suggest you search using some of the BORTHWICK surname variants (BORTHWICK BARTHWICK BOIRTHUIK BOIRTHVIK BORCHTWIK BORTHEIK BORTHEK BORTHEWYK BORTHIK BORTHOCK BORTHUIK BORTHUYK BORTHUYKE BORTHVIC BORTHVIK BORTHWEKE BORTHWIC BORTHWIK BORTHWIKE BORTHWYK BORTHWYKE BORTHYK BORTYK BROTHVIK BOTHWICK). My BORTHWICKs show up as BOTHWICKs. On my web page I have an incomplete, but searchable database of Scottish surname variants. Richard Robertson richrob4@home.com http://members.home.net/richrob4/index.htm

Hello all, I too am looking for information on Robertson's from Edinburgh. I have three who married into the Collins family. James, Margaret (Maggie) my ggrandmother, and Marion. I have a little bit more information and would like to exchange info with anyone interested, would also like to get possible leeds. Any help appreciated. I enjoy all of the lists that I am on so much and lately it's been kind of slow for me on the family tree trail. Looking forward to maybe having something to "go on". Thank you and genealogy wishes, Nancy

Dawn and Shyama: I would be interested in learning more about your Edinburgh Robertson lines. You can check mine out at the URL below. Richard Robertson richrob4@home.com http://members.home.net/richrob4/index.htm

There seems to be some Robertson interest of late. Do any of you Robertson-interested people have a D. Robertson, who would have been born between 1845-75. and been somewhat well-off. This name appears on a clock face of a fine tall case clock made in Edinburgh between 1795-1815. We're on a bit of a goose chase at this point, but hope to collect possiblities and find other evidence to determine the best possible candidates. He may have emigrated to the US>NJ, because the clock ends up there eventually. Steve SCT-EDINBURGH-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Subject: > > SCT-EDINBURGH-D Digest Volume 01 : Issue 108 > > Today's Topics: > #1 [EDB] ROBERTSON FAMILY [Bkdesertrat@aol.com] > #2 Re: [EDB] ROBERTSON FAMILY ["Shyama Peebles" <shyama@gold.net.] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from SCT-EDINBURGH-D, send a message to > > SCT-EDINBURGH-D-request@rootsweb.com > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > To contact Carol Hepburn, SCT-EDINBURGH-D list administrator, send mail to SCT-EDINBURGH-admin@rootsweb.com. > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [EDB] ROBERTSON FAMILY > Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 13:23:55 EDT > From: Bkdesertrat@aol.com > To: SCT-EDINBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > > Would Shyama Peebles <shyama@gold.net.au> please contact me off list > regarding your ROBERTSON familiy in Edinburgh? I have tried emailing you > directly but it bounces back. Thanks. > Dawn, in southern CA, USA > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: [EDB] ROBERTSON FAMILY > Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 08:27:16 +0800 > From: "Shyama Peebles" <shyama@gold.net.au> > To: SCT-EDINBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > > Hi Dawn - sorry to hear my gold.net address > is bouncing back - I have two addresses so try > shyama@emerge.net.au > that should get me ok > Look forward to hearing about your Robertsons > Shyama Peebles > Laverton > Western Australia > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bkdesertrat@aol.com <Bkdesertrat@aol.com> > To: SCT-EDINBURGH-L@rootsweb.com <SCT-EDINBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Wednesday, 4 April 2001 1:28 > Subject: [EDB] ROBERTSON FAMILY > > Would Shyama Peebles <shyama@gold.net.au> please contact me off list > regarding your ROBERTSON familiy in Edinburgh? I have tried emailing you > directly but it bounces back. Thanks. > Dawn, in southern CA, USA > > ==== SCT-EDINBURGH Mailing List ==== > Need mail list help? Contact Carol Hepburn at chepburn@uswest.net