hello Rena Upper Gilmore Place is still there. There are some older houses which would probably have been there at the time and from memory some tenements which would be a bit later. The street does a kind of dog leg from Viewforth to Gilmore Place, which I believe is named after the man who used to own the land. I remember seeing it on an old map as 'Mr Gilmour's feu'. To find it on a modern map locate 'Bruntsfield Links' and head westwards. On older maps, it is just south of the canal. YOu can see it on Alan Godfrey Map 'Merchiston, Bruntsfield and North Morningside'(Edinburgh sheet 3.11) which is a reproduction of a map dated 1896. These maps can be order from Amazon, amongst other places. Judy > From: "remac" <remac@loxleyclose.fsnet.co.uk> > Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 01:37:14 +0100 > To: SCT-EDINBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [EDB] FERNIE - Edinburgh > Resent-From: SCT-EDINBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 17:42:56 -0700 > > Hello All! > > I have GEORGE FERNIE marry ISABELLA ANGUS in 1862, 32 Upper Gilmour Place, > Edinburgh. Does any one know what this location was? > > George and Isabella had 9 children. > Agnes born 1862 > Marion born 1865 married Hugh George Nisbet 1887 > Georgina born 1867 > Jane born 1868 > Christina born 1869 > Annie McGregor born 1871 > George born 1875 > Alexander born 1877 married Elizabeth Lindsay Sinclair 1903 > William born 1880 > > Is there anyone else researching any of these names? > REGARDS > RENA > > > > ==== SCT-EDINBURGH Mailing List ==== > Need mail list help? Contact Carol Hepburn at chepburn@uswest.net > >

Hello All! I have GEORGE FERNIE marry ISABELLA ANGUS in 1862, 32 Upper Gilmour Place, Edinburgh. Does any one know what this location was? George and Isabella had 9 children. Agnes born 1862 Marion born 1865 married Hugh George Nisbet 1887 Georgina born 1867 Jane born 1868 Christina born 1869 Annie McGregor born 1871 George born 1875 Alexander born 1877 married Elizabeth Lindsay Sinclair 1903 William born 1880 Is there anyone else researching any of these names? REGARDS RENA

Relisting my researching for OGILVY **** We have David OGILVY (Painter) of Edinburgh who married Catharina Spence on 2nd July 1801 at Tolbooth Church Parish Edinburgh---David lived at "Burnet's Close, House 312 Lawnmarket Edinburgh" (as according to the Post Office Annual Directory 1820-1821). David and Catharina had a son David Ogilvy born 1804 who did his apprenticeship at The Signet Law Firm Edinburgh starting on 26th July 1832, graduated to Solicitor and in 1839 was appointed by the British Government as Crown Solicitor in Australia..All we have on Catharina's father John SPENCE of Edinburgh that he was a painter too!.**** We have a copy of David/Catharina's marriage certificate and postal registers from which we obtained the information as shown above. *************With the help of a Kind Lister who found for us four OGILVY'S which do appear to be ours; they are William Spence OGILVY b 28/12/1806, Catharine OGILVY b 16/12/1808, Thomas Davidson OGILVY b 1/10/1813 an! d Catharine Ogilvy b 7/3/1811. showing their Father David OGILVY and mother Catharine Mrs SPENCE.******** ********Census shows for Thomas Davidson Ogilvy "Dwelling: 11 Lothian St Census Place: Edinburgh Canongate, Edinburgh, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0224005 GRO Ref Volume 685-4 EnumDist 38 Page 6 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Thomas Davidson OGILVY U 68 M Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Annuitant********* , Would like someone who has access to the Census for this period to look for further information on the Ogilvy's!. We now also at a standstill at the brick wall trying to locate or find the further details of David/Chatarina's parents! For further history on our "David" click on this Web page to view the information!http://www.electricscotland.com/webclans/minibios/o/ogilvy.htm Any suggestions!!!!!! Regards, Colin Darby Australia colnet@optusnet.com.au

Hello List, I tried to post this to the list a short while ago, but I'm not sure if it got through - so apologies if you've read it before. Here are three households containg Patersons, which I've recently extracted from the 1881 census; does anyone else have a connection with these Patersons ? First; - 28, India Street, Edinburgh St Stephens Alexr RAMAGE, 55, Teacher of literature, born Edinburgh Agnes RAMAGE, 60, sister, born Edinburgh Helen Paterson, 25, unmarried, General servant, born Uphall It is just possible that this Helen Paterson may be the daughter of the Robert Paterson (my husband's g-g-grandfather) and his wife Elisabeth (formerly GLEN). Robert and Elisabeth had a daughter Helen in Bathgate, W Lothian in 1852. In 1881, Robert and Elisabeth were living in Uphall. Does anyone else know anything about the Helen who was employed by the Ramages ? Second; - Kirknewton & E Calder, Edinburgh Peter Paterson, 24, Foreman quarryman, born Bathgate Margaret Paterson, wife, 21, born Whitburn, Linlithgowshire Robert Paterson, son, 3, born Whitburn Margaret Paterson, daughter, 1, born Kirknewton George WADDELL, brother-in-law, 41, Stone mason, born Whitburn Fanny WADDELL, sister-in-law, 34, Stone mason's wife, born Whitburn I believe that this Peter Paterson was the son of the Robert and Elisabeth Paterson mentioned above. Robert and Elisabeth also had a son named James, who is my husband's great-grandfather. Third; - Barton Villa, Hamlet of Northfield, Liberton, Edinburgh Jessie D R HARROWER, 57, Interest dividends, born Thurso George C HARROWER, son, 25, Chartered accountant, born Edinburgh William R HARROWER, son, 23, Insurance clerk, born Edinburgh Elizabeth G Paterson, servant, 20, General servant, born W Graig, Linlithgowshire I think that Elizabeth may be another child of Robert and Elisabeth; I think the G probably stood for Glen, but I can't find W Graig in Linlithgowshire - does anyone have any idea where this might be ? The Elisabeth Paterson I was looking for was born Torphichen, W Lothian. I look forward to hearing from you if you have any connection with the above households. Cheers, Rosalind Paterson. Also researching; - > > > BROWN, SIMMS, CLEWES, HARRISON, HEATH, POOLE, BAILEY, POINTON, > > HANCOCK, OAKES, COWEN, LOVATT, SMITH in and around Stoke-on-Trent > > HANCOCK in Dublin > > CRITCHLEY, HALSALL, EDEN or IDDEN, HOLDEN, ALCOCK, WHITTLE, MOLYNEUX, LOWE, LOFTHOUSE, HARRISON in Lancashire > > STRINGER in Lancs ?or Cheshire? > > HENDERSON, BAIN, HARDIE, McMILLAN, FRASER, YOUNG, HENDRY, McNEILL, POLLARD in Edinburgh > > HORNER in Jersey > > VERKADE, ROESSINGH, KONING, VAN GELDER, HONIG(H), VAN ORDEN, KEG, > > VAN DE STADT, SIMONSZ, AVIS, MIDDELHOVEN in the Netherlands

To Frank, Elizabeth, Judy and Jmac - my sincere thanks for your helpful responses to my request re St Stephens Church. I appreciate it very much Regards Dale Mathieson geodale@bigpond.com

G'day List Would SKS know what were the boundaries of South Leith in 1802? I have INGLIS and PATTERSON families livimg in that area, at that time and would like to know the general area they lived in. Thanks in anticipation. Cheers, Bob McKenzie Geelong Australia mck@datafast.net.au

St Stephens is Church of Scotland ie the established church. The Church of Scotland HQ is 121 George St Edinburgh tel 131 225 5722 fax 131 220 3113 you could write to the church elders/minister etc at Stephens Church, St Vincent Street Edinburgh and it would get there But the records are more likely to be either in the National Archives of Scotland or perhaps the National Library of Scotland..use google etc to find the National Register of Archives and search on there to find out If you look on one of the map sites you will see that St Stephens is at the bottom of St Vincent Street to the north of Princes Street and east of Stockbridge. Church of Scotland is presbyterian ie no bishops. good luck Judy > From: "Dale Mathieson" <geodale@bigpond.com> > Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 06:17:56 +0800 > To: SCT-EDINBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [EDB] ST STEPHENS CHURCH > Resent-From: SCT-EDINBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 03:07:30 -0700 > > Please can someone tell me what denomination St Stephens Church would be? An > address I could write to would be a bonus! I have a George MATHIESON on my > tree whose residence is St Vincent Street House Under St Stephens Church on > the 1881 census. His occupation is "church officer" and I would like to find > out more about him from the church records, if possible. My husband's family > is currently Methodist, so I would guess St Stephens may be Methodist. > Does anyone out there know? > > Thanks > Dale Mathieson > geodale@bigpond.com > > > ==== SCT-EDINBURGH Mailing List ==== > Need mail list help? Contact Carol Hepburn at chepburn@uswest.net > >

Please can someone tell me what denomination St Stephens Church would be? An address I could write to would be a bonus! I have a George MATHIESON on my tree whose residence is St Vincent Street House Under St Stephens Church on the 1881 census. His occupation is "church officer" and I would like to find out more about him from the church records, if possible. My husband's family is currently Methodist, so I would guess St Stephens may be Methodist. Does anyone out there know? Thanks Dale Mathieson geodale@bigpond.com

Researching OGILVY **** We have David OGILVY (Painter) of Edinburgh who married Catharina Spence on 2nd July 1801 at Tolbooth Church Parish Edinburgh---David lived at "Burnet's Close, House 312 Lawnmarket Edinburgh" (as according to the Post Office Annual Directory 1820-1821). David and Catharina had a son David Ogilvy born 1804 who did his apprenticeship at The Signet Law Firm Edinburgh starting on 26th July 1832, graduated to Solicitor and in 1839 was appointed by the British Government as Crown Solicitor in Australia..All we have on Catharina's father John SPENCE of Edinburgh that he was a painter too!.**** We have a copy of David/Catharina's marriage certificate and postal registers from which we obtained the information as shown above. *************With the help of a Kind Lister who found for us four OGILVY'S which do appear to be ours; they are William Spence OGILVY b 28/12/1806, Catharine OGILVY b 16/12/1808, Thomas Davidson OGILVY b 1/10/1813 and Catharine Ogilv! y b 7/3/1811. showing their Father David OGILVY and mother Catharine Mrs SPENCE.******** ********Cencus shows for Thomas Davidson Ogilvy "Dwelling: 11 Lothian St Census Place: Edinburgh Canongate, Edinburgh, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0224005 GRO Ref Volume 685-4 EnumDist 38 Page 6 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Thomas Davidson OGILVY U 68 M Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Annuitant********* , Would like someone who has access to the Census for this period to look for further information on the Ogilvy's!. We now also at a standstill at the brick wall trying to locate or find the further details of David/Chatarina's parents! Any suggestions!!!!!! Regards, Colin Darby Australia colnet@optusnet.com.au --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.255 / Virus Database: 128 - Release Date: 17/05/2001

Hello James, Thank you very much for the above OPR's - much appreciated. Agnes

Hello again, I didn't get a response to my last request so will try again. Can anyone familiar with Edinburgh please tell me what (if anything) is currently located at 40 Jamaica Street? My husband's gr-grandfather was born there in 1864. Hoping to hear from SKS, Regards, Dale geodale@bigpond.com

Hello to the list, i am a new subscriber and I am trying to find some information on my gggrandfather - William Ronaldson PENDRICH c 1831 Edinburgh. He was the son of John PENDRICH c 1797 and Isabella 'Elizabeth' PATERSON c 1799. John and Isabella were married 16 May 1817 at the Canongate, Edinburgh. There children were: John 1818, Mary 1820, Barbara 1822, Thomas 1824, James 1829, and William Ronaldson 1831. William emmigrated to Australia prior to 1854. I do not know if he came with other family or on his own. On the 2nd January 1854 he married Emma Dewhurst WARD (b.c.1833 Nottingham, England) at the St Kilda licensed School Grounds, Melbourne, Victoria. Emma was the daughter of John WARD and Mary HIGHFIELD. Prior to his death in 1863 - William and Emma had the following Children: John Ward 1855, William 1857, Thomas 1859, Thomas 23 June 1861, Henry 1863. Emma remarried in 1864 to William HILL. Thomas PENDRICH (B. 23.6.1861) married Fanny "Annie" LANGFORD in 1887 at Wagga Wagga New South Wales Australia. Their children are found on the NSW BDM as follows: Alic Mae PENDRICH 1890; Ernest J "Barney" PENDRICK 1893; Clarice PENDRICK 1896; Charles W PENDRICK 1898; Lottie PENDRICK 1901 and Jack PENDRICK 1905. Jack is also registered under PENDRICH. I have made contact with some fellow PENDRICK's but no-one is able to tell me 1. why the name changed to PENDRICK 2. when the family arrived in Australia, 3.Where they arrived 4. Where they sailed from and did any other family come with them. I would like anyone on the list to contact me with any possible solutions to my queries. Thank you very much. Barbara Walker Jimboomba Queensland Australia

I am hoping SKS will have the transcriptions from the Canongate area cemeteries. I am looking for HENDERSONS: John Henderson and his wife Isabella Thomson. They had two children that I know about -- probably lots more -- Robert born ca 1828 who married Christina/Christian Sandilands, and Elizabeth born ca 1836 who married William Graham. Any and all help gratefully appreciated Thanks Marsha Walker Stoney Creek, Ontario

----- Original Message ----- From: Agnes Gamble <agamble@ihug.co.nz> To: <SCT-EDINBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 23 May 2001 22:06 Subject: [EDB] Re: OPR Dates for Dalmeny and Balquidder > Hello James, > > It looks like you have a full-time job here with the OPR's and it's very > much appreciated - would you mind looking up Dalmeny and Balquidder please. > > Many thanks. > > Agnes Hi Agnes, Here are the dates. BALQUIDDER. District Number 331 (County of Perth) B/C - 1696 to 1854. M - 1710 to 1724, 1727 to 1854. D - None recorded. (Contained on 3 films) DALMENY. District Number 665 (County of Linlithgow - now West Lothian) B/C - 1679 to 1854. M - 1628 to 1854. D - 1679 to 1816. (Contained on 3 films) Hope this helps. Regards, James Motion. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.255 / Virus Database: 128 - Release Date: 2001-05-17

Hello James, It looks like you have a full-time job here with the OPR's and it's very much appreciated - would you mind looking up Dalmeny and Balquidder please. Many thanks. Agnes

I would like to get in touch with relatives of CLARK's in EDINBURGH. My grandparents were JAMES CATHIE CLARK b 1871 Canongate and JEMIMA NOBLE McCULLOCH b 1872 Bridgegate, Peebles. Their children were ALEXANDER (Eckie), ELIZABETH (Lizzie), GEORGE, DAVID (Davey), WILLIAM (Billy-emigrated to Canada- but have since heard that he married in Edinburgh but his wife did not go with him) other names I am not sure of HENRIETTA (Hettie), MINNIE, MIMA. I know that there are still family in EDINBURGH. The CLARK's are from the CANONGATE originally. REGARDS

Hi Margaret, KILMONIVAG. District Number 99 (County of Inverness) B/C - 1730 to 1854. M - 1780 (One entry), 1795 to 1854. D - 1801 & 1805 (One entry each) (Contained on 2 films) MUCKAIRN. District Number 529 (County of Argyll) B/C - 1746 to 1854. M - 1781 to 1854. D - None recorded. (Contained on 2 films) KILLIN. District Number 361 (County of Perth) B/C - 1689 to 1854. M - 1687 to 1854. D - None recorded. (Contained on 3 films) Regards, James Motion. ----- Original Message ----- From: Margaret Kipp <margaretkipp@home.com> To: <SCT-EDINBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 22 May 2001 16:13 Subject: [EDB] .opr dates > > Would appreciate Kilmonivaig, Muckairn and Killin. > > Thanks > > Margaret in Toronto --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.250 / Virus Database: 123 - Release Date: 2001-04-18

Hi Barbara, Kinclaven. District Number 365 (Perthshire). B/C - 1726 to 1854. M - 1726 to 1854. D - None recorded. (Contained on 2 films) Regards, James Motion ----- Original Message ----- From: Barbara Corley <barbcorley@msn.com> To: <SCT-EDINBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 22 May 2001 17:34 Subject: [EDB] Re: SCT-EDINBURGH-D Digest V01 #163 > OPR DATES > > I would like to have the OPR dates for Kinclaven, Perth. > > Thank you so much --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.250 / Virus Database: 123 - Release Date: 2001-04-18

Hi Bob, Here are the dates. BARVAS. District Number 86 (County of Ross & Cromarty) B/C - 1810 to 1854. M - 1810 to 1854. D - None recorded. (Total of 2 films at the GRO, Edinburgh) STORNOWAY. District Number 88 (County of Ross & Cromarty). B/C - 1762 to 1854. M - 1762 to 1854. D - None recorded. (Total of 2 films at the GRO, Edinburgh) Hope this helps. Regards, James Motion ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Sampson <sampsonb@home.com> To: <SCT-EDINBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 22 May 2001 01:26 Subject: [EDB] OPR Dates > James, > > Appreciate OPR dates for Barvas and Stornoway, Isle of Lewis. > > Thank you, > > Bob in San Diego, CA > sampsonb@home.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.250 / Virus Database: 123 - Release Date: 2001-04-18

Ian Russell of Ontario asked: > Does anyone here know what church Rev. Nahum > Levison was minister of in Edinburgh? I am related by marriage to the late Rev Fred Levison, second son of Sir Leon Levison (1881-1936). Sir Leon's father was Rabbi Nahum, a distinguished Jew, and Leon's brother was the Rev Nahum Levison who became a Church of Scotland minister and theological scholar. I believe the Rev Nahum Levison died in 1968. I never knew either Sir Leon Levison or the Rev Nahum Levison, but I have before me as I write a biography of Sir Leon, entitled 'Christian and Jew, Leon Levison' which contains a great deal of information about both men. If Ian Russell is able to obtain the book (published in 1989), he may find the information he seeks. If he cannot find the information, perhaps I may be able to refer him to some of my Scottish relatives. Archdeacon Reg Nicholson in New Zealand reginaldn@clear.net.nz