Hi Dennis If would depend on what years you want for Scotland. If you want between 1855-1875 or the years 1881 or 1891 then you can get the full certificates on film from you local LDS family history centre. For the other years you will need to go through the Scottish GRO. I am not sure if there is another place but I am sure someone will fill you in on that. regards Sherylee Victoria, Australia http://unite.com.au/~u7317a/index.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: Dennis Catley To: SCT-EDINBURGH-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 2:33 PM Subject: [EDB] B.D.M. Hello List Could S.K.S please tell me how to contact records now to obtain a birth certificate from England or Scotland. It used to be St. Catherines House I believe but has changed. I need the e-mail address as well if possible please. I am in New Zealand and may have to use surface mail. Thank you Dennis Catley denniscatley@paradise.net.nz Margaret & Dennis Catley Hastings Hawkes Bay New Zealand ==== SCT-EDINBURGH Mailing List ==== Need mail list help? Contact Carol Hepburn at chepburn@uswest.net

Dennis Scottish records up to (I think) 1898 can be ordered over the internet on the following site which is well worth a look at anyway http://www.origins.net/ Jackie Mulvey Ascot Berks Researching MULVEY, MORTON Edinburgh

For England from 1st July 1837 you want The Family Records Centre which is a joint facility provided by the Public Record Office and the Office for National Statistics. PRO contact details: General family history enquiries (including census & wills) E-mail: enquiry@pro.gov.uk Internet: http://www.pro.gov.uk/ ONS contact details: Certificate enquiries (births, marriages and deaths) E-mail: certificate.services@ons.gov.uk Internet: www.ons.gov.uk Before 1/7/1837, if Church of England (bulk of population) then the appropriate County Archivist or Minister of the Church is the person to contact. If not Cof E, then the PRO holds the records of other denominations, so you enquire there. Good luck1 Sheena Ireland ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Catley" <denniscatley@paradise.net.nz> To: <SCT-EDINBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 5:33 AM Subject: [EDB] B.D.M. > Hello List > Could S.K.S please tell me how to contact records now to obtain a birth certificate from England or Scotland. It used to be St. Catherines House I believe but has changed. I need the e-mail address as well if possible please. I am in New Zealand and may have to use surface mail. > Thank you > Dennis Catley > > denniscatley@paradise.net.nz > > Margaret & Dennis Catley > Hastings > Hawkes Bay > New Zealand > > ______________________________

Hello All. Back on the list again after a long spell. Hope all is well with everyone since my last visit. Would SKS on the list do a look up of the marriage of Thomas Cleghorn and Janet Nisbet 27 Feb 1827 Edinburgh Parish, Edinburgh. I would like to have the details of this marriage. Places and Dates of birth and parents names if these are available. Regards to All. Greg in Raumati New Zealand.

Those of you who have been following the fascinating details of my family history will know what this posting is all about. Others who wantonly deleted previous postings, will just have to remain mystified. Hi Steve, Re the above. Deleted messages can be found in the List Archives. Ella Ross

Janis - There are 654 matches for the surname CURRIE. Can you be more specific? Sheila

Hello everyone Please could someone who has the 1881 census, do a surname look-up for CURRIE in the Edinburgh area. Thank you Janis Currie Pinetown, Natal, South Africa

was someone enquiring about a ROLAND who was a fencing master in Edinburgh. This is from Smail's Jedburgh Almanac and Advertiser 1876-80 Under Jedburgh Academy "The Nest": "for board and education of young gentlemen" Fencing &c., Mr Roland The volume has five years of the almanac bound into one book. The Tutor of English is different each time - one year Mr Roland is listed as filling that post as well! Judy

----- Original Message ----- From: "stephenmorrison" <stephenmorrison@beeb.net> To: <SCT-EDINBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 9:20 AM Subject: [EDB] William Campbell > Eureka! > > At last the world can know the truth. I have received from the GRO the extract for the marriage of the above, and this is what I read. > > On March 18, 1870, at Edge Hill Manse, Kilmarnock, William Campbell, nail maker, age 37, widower, was married to Bridget O'Neil age 32, widow of Henry O'Neil. > > William's parents were William Campbell, nail maker, and Jean Allan. > Bridget's parents were either Peter McCann, or McCance, (it was difficult to read), and Bridget Ferguson. > There are some discrepancies e.g. William's age should have been 39. This has probably been misread. > > I had a look at the LDS web-site and discovered that William Campbell and Jean Ferguson were married at St. Cuthbert's, Cramond, on December 19th, 1828. All of which seems to fit rather nicely. I further discovered that a William Campbell and Jean Ferguson were born in Falkirk in 1808 and 1812 respectively. > > Next week I hope to have look at the OPR of St. Cuthbert's to check on the 1828 marriage. If anything momentous turns up, I will keep you informed. > > Those of you who have been following the fascinating details of my family history will know what this posting is all about. Others who wantonly deleted previous postings, will just have to remain mystified. > > Once again I would like to express my thanks for the help I have received from this amiable list. > > Steve > > SORRY. Forth paragraph should read Jean Allen was married at St. Cuthbert's of course. > > > > > ==== SCT-EDINBURGH Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from list mode, send a new email to sct-edinburgh-l-request@rootsweb.com and put the word unsubscribe in the message box. Do not add any other words, text, or email addresses to the message. You will receive an email confirmation notice telling you that you are no longer on the mail list. >

Eureka! At last the world can know the truth. I have received from the GRO the extract for the marriage of the above, and this is what I read. On March 18, 1870, at Edge Hill Manse, Kilmarnock, William Campbell, nail maker, age 37, widower, was married to Bridget O'Neil age 32, widow of Henry O'Neil. William's parents were William Campbell, nail maker, and Jean Allan. Bridget's parents were either Peter McCann, or McCance, (it was difficult to read), and Bridget Ferguson. There are some discrepancies e.g. William's age should have been 39. This has probably been misread. I had a look at the LDS web-site and discovered that William Campbell and Jean Ferguson were married at St. Cuthbert's, Cramond, on December 19th, 1828. All of which seems to fit rather nicely. I further discovered that a William Campbell and Jean Ferguson were born in Falkirk in 1808 and 1812 respectively. Next week I hope to have look at the OPR of St. Cuthbert's to check on the 1828 marriage. If anything momentous turns up, I will keep you informed. Those of you who have been following the fascinating details of my family history will know what this posting is all about. Others who wantonly deleted previous postings, will just have to remain mystified. Once again I would like to express my thanks for the help I have received from this amiable list. Steve

Can anyone recommend a good method of checking for deaths for the 1820's in Edinburgh? My 4th great grandmother apparently died around 1826 in Edinburgh and not knowing how large this City was back then and what sort of records are retained from that era, I don't know where to start. Any advice is appreciated. Regards, Brett Prentice Brisbane, Australia

Hi Brett Finding deaths in the old parish registers 1533-1854 are few and far between a lot of parishes didn't record deaths the few who did are vague scots origins does a free surname search just click this link http://www.scots-origins.com/SurnameSearch.asp I did a search on the surname Prentice with the following results Results showing the number of records with surname Prentice between 1553 and 1899 in each dataset: Scots Origins dataset No. of records Old Parish Record Births/Christenings (1553-1854) 1119 Old Parish Record Marriages (1553-1854) 730 Statutory Index Births (1855-1899) 2526 Statutory Index Marriages (1855-1899) 1018 Statutory Index Deaths (1855-1924) 1478 1891 Census 1881 Total 8752 and as you see there is nothing in the OPR for deaths you could try your local LDS family centre I have heard of an old Jewish man who used to go round the cemetery's recording the names from the stones and as far as I know the LDS has put it no to the computer there may be a CD with this information on it the Edinburgh FHC is below Edinburgh Scotland 30A Colinton Road Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland Phone: 131 337 3049 If you could give me all the info you have on her I will see what I can do from here. Regards Charlie Small Edinburgh Note: These are not mailing addresses. Because of limited staff, Family History Centres cannot respond to mail inquiries roto@netspace.net.au wrote: > Can anyone recommend a good method of checking for deaths for the 1820's in > Edinburgh? My 4th great grandmother apparently died around 1826 in Edinburgh > and not knowing how large this City was back then and what sort of records > are retained from that era, I don't know where to start. Any advice is > appreciated. > > Regards, > > Brett Prentice > Brisbane, Australia > > ==== SCT-EDINBURGH Mailing List ==== > Need mail list help? Contact Carol Hepburn at chepburn@uswest.net

Brett: The LDS microfilms might help. The Edinburgh Parish burials index (1736 - 1839, is in film No. 1066750. Film No. 1066748 Has Edinburgh Parish deaths: 1785 - 1839. Other films have burials for Canongate and St. Cuthberts. Hope this helps. Richard Robertson richrob4@home.com http://members.home.net/richrob4/index.htm

Hi Redepositing My Names for the new Listers, I am from Armidale NSW Australia and we are researching OGILVY and wonder if there may be an connection somewhere??? I will give you some details on our clan below; David OGILVY (Painter) of Edinburgh who married Catharina Spence on 2nd July 1801 at Tolbooth Church Parish Edinburgh---David lived at "Burnet's Close, House 312 Lawnmarket Edinburgh" (as according to the Post Office Annual Directory 1820-1821). David and Catharina had a son David Ogilvy born 1804 who did his apprenticeship at The Signet Law Firm Edinburgh starting on 26th July 1832, graduated to Solicitor and in 1839 was appointed by the British Government as Crown Solicitor in Australia..All we have on Catharina's father John SPENCE of Edinburgh that he was a painter too!. We have a copy of David/Catharina's marriage certificate and postal registers from which we obtained the information as shown above. This is where we are up to and trying to locate or find further details of other children of David/Chatarina and their parents details Regards, Colin Darby Australia colnet@optusnet.com.au --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.265 / Virus Database: 137 - Release Date: 18/07/2001

I am looking for any information on Donald McIntosh who married Helen Sinclair in Edinburgh on 15th. March 1888. I am presuming that he died a few years later as Helen re-married in 1899. I would like to find out how many children they had - I know of two daughters, but so far have not any dates of birth, or date of death for Donald.Is anyone else connected to this family please? Doreen Baxter

Dear List, Can someone please give me the film number for the 1871 census of Edinburgh. I have check the LDS site, but have been unable to find it. Sincerely, Carol

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Hello Judy, Allan, Charlie, et al. Re my efforts over the week-end to access the GRO in an attempt to discover the parents of my great-grandfather William Campbell. Those of you who have been following this saga with bated breath will be as delighted as I am to hear that my efforts have been crowned with some success. I have been able to confirm that William Campbell and Bridget O' Neil were married in Kilmarnock in 1870. My efforts as a novice to obtain this info. might be of interest to others. Not surprisingly, paying my £6.00 for 30 pages was not difficult.The difficulty for me was getting a result. Even when, as a trial, I fed in facts of events about which I already knew, I was unable to get a result. Probably I was doing everything wrong. Eventually. with three pages to go, I stumbled over a William Campbell's marriage in Kilmarnock 1870, but with no details of his spouse. So I turned it around and entered Bridget O' Neil for the same date. This time her spouse was included, and it turned out to be the elusive William. As it seemed fairly certain that these two were my great-grandparents, I have ordered an extract for £10.00 which I hope will give me details of their parents. What a nail-biter! I estimate the cost of obtaining this information at about £20.00 i.e. £16.00 to the GRO, plus 'phone charges. When I receive the extract, I will post the results. Steve

Edinburgh is blessed with two cathedrals dedicated to St Mary: one Roman Catholic, the other is Scottish Episcopal (with a very different history to the Church of England, commonly known as Anglican). Hope this helps. Sheena ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary & Andy McKinlay" <wexray@tassie.net.au> To: <SCT-EDINBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 12:22 PM Subject: [EDB] St. Mary's > Hi List, > > I would be very pleased if S.K.S. can give me some advice on how to find the Marriage records for St. Mary's Church Edinburgh April-May of 1837. I cannot seem to find any mention of it in the L.D.S. On Line Records. > > Would St. Mary's be an Anglican Church or a Presbyterian one? > > Any help would be gratefully received. > > ______________________________

Hi List, I would be very pleased if S.K.S. can give me some advice on how to find the Marriage records for St. Mary's Church Edinburgh April-May of 1837. I cannot seem to find any mention of it in the L.D.S. On Line Records. Would St. Mary's be an Anglican Church or a Presbyterian one? Any help would be gratefully received.