Hi all, I am seeking a new volunteer to help with the Midlothian, ScotlandGenWeb Project website (http://www.rootsweb.com/~sctmln) Interested persons should know how to make a web page, ftp to the internet and have an interest in either Edinburgh city or the county. Time commitment is minimal - friendliness is key! Interested persons should email me directly. Thanks! -- Best Wishes, Carol Hepburn chepburn@qwest.net Phoenix, AZ USA

SKS help please. Brick wall has been only partially breached. Mother Mary Cummings, in the entry below needed. Marriage of parents would help identify further info and lines. I am interested in Lauchlan Dempster and Mary Cummings [with an "s"] and their related data...accessible only through the NRH or GRO if anyone has a moment or two left on the metre. Access to the 1831 and 1841 for the area would be of great value as well. I have Lauchlan to the present but nothing to the past. I have nothing of Mary Cummings' details. The second entry below is my entry point. The rest may be family, but I have no way of knowing. If anyone can assist, I would be grateful. Lauchlan DEMPSTER - IGI Marriage(s): Spouse: Mary CUMMINGS 20 Feb 1835 St. Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Mid., Scotland Batch number:/Dates/Source Call No./Type/Printout Call No./Type M119898/1833-1838/1066765/Film/6900813/Film Mary's father has been found to be Bernard Cummings [MC]. Mother was not been noted in certificate with Mary.

Hi Montague, I SENT THE MESSAGE BELOW TO YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS AS SHOWN AND IT BOUNCED!!! So please accept my apologies for putting it on the "Scot Edinburgh List" as I would like Montague to read my thanks!! Regards Colin. I Have located the "Book" and expect arrival in the next week or two. Will let you know if there is a connection after reading. Many thanks, Colin. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Darby" <colnet@optusnet.com.au> To: <DDONMONTAGUE@cs.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 8:54 AM Subject: Re: [EDB] OGILVY-SPENCE > > Many thanks for your Email re our Ogilvy, will investigate for a copy of the > book " Letters to Mrs David Ogilvy" Although the date may be a little out, > the book may contain some history on the Ogilvy's which may relate to ours. > Will let you know within a month whether I did succeed!! > Many thanks again, > Kind regards, > Colin Darby > Australia > colnet@optusnet.com.au > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <DDONMONTAGUE@cs.com> > To: <SCT-EDINBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 5:21 PM > Subject: [EDB] OGILVY-SPENCE > > > > There is a book entitled "Letters to Mrs David Ogilvy, 1849-1864" (I > think), > > by Elizabeth Barrett Browning - could this be the painter's wife? > > It occurs to me, does "painter" = artist? I guess yes. Try the National > > Gallery of Scotland or the National Portrait Gallery of Scotland. > > Good hunting > > Don Montague > > > > > > ==== SCT-EDINBURGH Mailing List ==== > > To unsubscribe from list mode, send a new email to > sct-edinburgh-l-request@rootsweb.com and put the word unsubscribe in the > message box. Do not add any other words, text, or email addresses to the > message. You will receive an email confirmation notice telling you that you > are no longer on the mail list. > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.268 / Virus Database: 140 - Release Date: 7/08/2001 > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.268 / Virus Database: 140 - Release Date: 7/08/2001

Hi Margaret, I do not have your Email address so will enter my message on the site in hope you will be able to view and read my recommendation for a Scottish Researcher. About six months ago I contacted Forrest Anderson in Edinburgh through his Web site http://www.forrestdale.dial.pipex.com/ and he was able to locate a copy of; ==== David Ogilvy's marriage certificate, his apprenticeship record with Signet Library (Law) Edinburgh, the photos ( entered on his/a Web site to view) of David's grave site at Warriston Cemetery Edinburgh. He also had a quick lookup for additional information on the Ogilvys. A very helpful person and the feed back was quick and excellent!!! His charges were not expensive!!! I must contact him myself again as I have now come across some more additional information which may help him locate for me some items/records on my family of the Ogilvy's. Regards,Colin Darby Australia colnet@optusnet.com.au ----- Original Message ----- From: "=^.^= Angela Boon" <boon.bluecats@ntlworld.com> To: <SCT-EDINBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 4:14 AM Subject: Re: [EDB] resercher > > Hi List, can anyone give me the name of a good researcher. thank you. > > margaret > > Have a look at the Association of Scottish Genealogists and Record Agents > website: > > http://www.asgra.co.uk > > -- > Best Wishes Angela<boon.bluecats@ntlworld.com> > Pettistree Homepage > http://www.pettistree.suffolk.gov.uk/ > > > > ==== SCT-EDINBURGH Mailing List ==== > Need mail list help? Contact Carol Hepburn at chepburn@uswest.net > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.268 / Virus Database: 140 - Release Date: 7/08/2001

> Hi List, can anyone give me the name of a good researcher. thank you. > margaret Have a look at the Association of Scottish Genealogists and Record Agents website: http://www.asgra.co.uk -- Best Wishes Angela<boon.bluecats@ntlworld.com> Pettistree Homepage http://www.pettistree.suffolk.gov.uk/

Hi List, can anyone give me the name of a good researcher. thank you. margaret.

There is a book entitled "Letters to Mrs David Ogilvy, 1849-1864" (I think), by Elizabeth Barrett Browning - could this be the painter's wife? It occurs to me, does "painter" = artist? I guess yes. Try the National Gallery of Scotland or the National Portrait Gallery of Scotland. Good hunting Don Montague

Hi All Can anybody tell me if the 1851 census was indexed for Edinburgh. I am looking for a George SUTHERLAND m Barbara DOBIE. Children: Elizabeth b 1825, Barbara b 1827, Jane b 1833 and Wilhelmina b 1839. I think they may be living Trinity Parish. If it is indexed either on fiche or in book form, where could I buy a copy? Many thanks Deborah

Researching OGILVY **** and SPENCE == We have David OGILVY (Painter) of Edinburgh who married Catharina Spence on 2nd July 1801 at Tolbooth Church Parish Edinburgh---David lived at "Burnet's Close, House 312 Lawnmarket Edinburgh" (as according to the Post Office Annual Directory 1820-1821). David and Catharina had a son David Ogilvy born 1804 who did his apprenticeship at The Signet Law Firm Edinburgh starting on 26th July 1832, graduated to Solicitor and in 1839 was appointed by the British Government as Crown Solicitor in Australia..All we have on Catharina's father John SPENCE of Edinburgh that he was a painter too!.**** We have a copy of David/Catharina's marriage certificate and postal registers from which we obtained the information as shown above. *************With the help of a Kind Lister who found for us four OGILVY'S which do appear to be ours; they are William Spence OGILVY b 28/12/1806, Catharine OGILVY b 16/12/1808, Thomas Davidson OGILVY b 1/10/1813 and C! atharine Ogilvy b 7/3/1811. showing their Father David OGILVY and mother Catharine Mrs SPENCE.******** ********Cencus shows for Thomas Davidson Ogilvy "Dwelling: 11 Lothian St Census Place: Edinburgh Canongate, Edinburgh, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0224005 GRO Ref Volume 685-4 EnumDist 38 Page 6 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Thomas Davidson OGILVY U 68 M Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Annuitant********* , Would like someone who has access to the Census for this period to look for further information on the Ogilvy's!. We now also at a standstill at the brick wall trying to locate or find the further details of David/Chatarina's parents! Any suggestions!!!!!! Regards Colin Darby Australia colnet@optusnet.com.au --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.268 / Virus Database: 140 - Release Date: 7/08/2001

Dear Listers I had such a great response to my last message advising about my One Name Study that I thought I would post once more. I have been researching my own BORTHWICK family for a few years now but recently had a moment of great madness and registered to do a One Name Study! Hence this message to all the areas where I believe there are BORTHWICKS, with apologies for duplications to those on multiple lists. I have a Borthwick site at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~anncarson/ where, aside from information about my own family, I am posting all the Borthwick information I have collected and have been generously given by others - mostly email friends I have met via these Rootsweb lists. I would love to hear from anyone on these lists with a BORTHWICK in their family. I would also be grateful for any BORTHWICK information at all that people are willing to share with other researchers by posting it. There is a site map but if it is too time-consuming to look through my site to see what is missing (heaps!) I would be happy to tell you by email whether I do or don't already have any information you may be willing to share. Best wishes to all Ann Carson (Sydney, Australia) annmacarthurc@ozemail.com.au Researching in Scotland (1700-1850s - all over Scotland, but for my own family Lanarkshire, Dumfriesshire, Midlothian, Peeblesshire, Stirling): ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ B O R T H W I C K (descendants of John Borthwick & Elizabeth Dinwoodie of Kirkpatrick Juxta, Moffat, Tweedsmuir, Drumelzier, Biggar) B R O W N (Robert & Jessie, m. Anderston 1867) D I N W O O D I E (Dumfries) L A I N G (Denny, Stirling) L I L L I E (Biggar, Glasgow) Mc (K) N I G H T (Moffat, Glasgow), M E I K L E (Tradeston, Anderston, Hutchesontown) P A T E R S O N (Lanark, Liverpool ENG) Visit my Borthwick website: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~anncarson/

Does anyone have information about John Muir, writer, resident of S Kirk Parish in 1755, who married Elizabeth Farquhar in that year? I believe they had two children, John and James, born in 1756 and 1758, in Edinburgh. John Muir's father may have been James Muir of Netherwarrenhill and Peniflates (according to Services to Heirs....). Robin Kinloch

I am looking for details of a KYD family who lived in Lower Viewcraig Row in Edinburgh in the 1930s and 1940s - especially Georgina Livingston McIntyre Kyd. Her married name was McKenzie. If anyone has any knowledge of this family, could they please e-mail me at dorbax@btinternet.com Many thanks, Doreen Baxter

For your interest and use. I am interested in Lauchlan Dempster and Mary Cummings [with an "s"] and their related data...accessible only through the NRH or GRO if anyone has a moment or two left on the metre. Access to the 1831 and 1841 for the area would be of great value. I have Lauchlan to the present but nothing to the past. I have nothing of Mary Cummings' details. The second entry below is my entry point. The rest may be family, but I have no way of knowing. If anyone can assist, I would be grateful. John DEMPSTER - International Genealogical Index Marriage(s): Spouse: Elizabeth BROWN 19 Jun 1834 St. Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Mid., Scotland Batch number:/Dates/Source Call No./Type/PrintoutCallNo./Type M119898/1833-1838/1066765/Film/6900813/Film --------------------------------------------------------------------- Lauchlan DEMPSTER - International Genealogical Index Marriage(s): Spouse: Mary CUMMINGS 20 Feb 1835 St. Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Mid., Scotland Batch number:/Dates/Source Call No./Type/Printout Call No./Type M119898/1833-1838/1066765/Film/6900813/Film --------------------------------------------------------------------- Alison DEMPSTER - International Genealogical Index Marriage): Spouse: William SHIELLS 26 Feb 1836 St. Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland Batch number:/Dates/Source Call No./Type/Printout Call No./Type M119898/1833-1838/1066765/Film/6900813/Film Jane DEMPSTER - International Genealogical Index Marriage(s): Spouse: Edward BULL 3 Jul 1838 St. Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland Batch number:/Dates/Source Call No./Type/Printout Call No./Type M119898/1833-1838/1066765/Film/6900813/Film Jean DEMPSTER - International Genealogical Index Marriage(s): Spouse: John WELLS 05 Jun 1825 St. Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland Batch number:/Dates/Source Call No./Type/Printout Call No./Type/ M119895/1820-1825/1066763 , 0103068/Film/6900813/Film Jannette DEMPSTER - International Genealogical Index Marriage(s): Spouse: George Lillie CRAIK 16 Oct 1826 St.Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Mid., Scotland Batch number:/Dates/Source Call No./Type/Printout Call No./Type M119896/1825-1829/1066764/Film/6900813/Film John DEMPSTER - International Genealogical Index Marriage(s): Spouse: Grace GRAY 30 Oct 1826 St. Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland Batch number:/Dates/Source Call No./Type/Printout Call No./Type M119896/1825-1829/1066764/Film/6900813/Film Ann DEMPSTER - International Genealogical Index Marriage(s): Spouse: John KNIGHT 21 Jul 1828 St. Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland Batch number:/Dates/Source Call No./Type/Printout Call No./Type M119896/1825-1829/1066764/Film/6900813/Film Elizabeth DEMPSTER - International Genealogical Index Marriage(s): Spouse: John PAULIN 4 Nov 1839 St. Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland Batch number:/Dates/Source Call No./Type/Printout Call No./Type M119899/1838-1841/1066765/Film/6900813/Film Robert DEMPSTER - International Genealogical Index Marriage(s): Spouse: Ann MURDOCH 07 Jun 1841 St. Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland Batch number:/Dates/Source Call No./Type/Printout Call No./Type M119899/1838-1841/1066765/Film/6900813/Film -- ==================================================================== YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM NOT PART OF THE SOLUTION IF YOU DO NOT HAVE ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE INSTALLED AND/OR OPEN UNSCANNED ATTACHMENTS. IGNORANCE IS NO EXCUSE FOR IRRESPONSIBILITY. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CHRIST IS ALIVE! ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Operating out of Windows Millennium it is immune to "CODE RED WORMS." All incoming and outgoing correspondence is scanned by PC-cillin and ZONE ALARM. Copyright © 2001 Alan Kemp Dempster, Ontario, Canada "FORTITER ET STRENUE" This e-mail is privileged, confidential and subject to copyright and Canadian Laws. Any unauthorized use or disclosure of its contents in part or in whole, is prohibited. All rights reserved to legal counsel who owns equal privileged controlling interest over its contents. Free faxes to this number will be attached to my e-mail as an attachment ... eFax Number: [1] 253-541-1113. No. outside Canada or the U.S. must add a 1 at the first. Anything appearing below this message is not of my doing. =====================================================================

To Brian & Dianne Dixon, Sorry for not replying I have just changed servers and your e-mail address is on old server - I am posting this to the site. The Sinclairs I have from Edinburgh are from around your area but, it is the father of Alexander Sinclair that I am interested in and his siblings do you have any other information on them? Regards Rena McKenzie

SKS HELP PLEASE Was the affix "93d" only associated with the Sutherland Highlanders? I would be interested in communication with any listers who are "experts" on the 93d Highlanders OR are KEMP inquirers, out of Edinburgh to be able to tackle info related to one of its retirees... a James Kemp. Any DEMPSTER/LINDSAY inquirers, out of Glasgow, Edinburgh, Newton St. Boswell, would also be helpful in assisting. Thanks in advance...Al Dempster ===================================================================== 1881 Census: Dwelling: 11 Society Census Place: Edinburgh Old Greyfriars, Edinburgh, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0224005/GRO Ref/Volume 685-4/EnumDist 37/Page 21 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Marr Age Sex Birthplace James KEMP M 40[1841] M Edinburgh, Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Head [may be 2d marr.] Occ: Wood Letter Cutter Pensioner 93rd Highlanders Drummer 1st E C A Volunteers Cecilia KEMP M 38[1843] F Edinburgh, Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Wife [2d marr.] [Cecilia Lindsay-Dempster-Kemp] George KEMP 4[1877] M Edinburgh, Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Son Cecilia KEMP 2[1879] F Edinburgh, Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Daughter --------------------------------------------------------------------- John DEMPSTER U 17[1864] M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Stepson Occ: Barber (Apprentice) James DEMPSTER 15[1866] M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Stepson Occ: Brass Caster Apprentice William DEMPSTER 13[1868] M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Stepson Occ: Bookbinder Message Boy Thomas DEMPSTER 11[1870] M Edinburgh, Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Stepson Occ: Scholar Janet DEMPSTER 8[1873] F Edinburgh, Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Step Daughter Occ: Scholar Father: Lauchlan John Dempster/Edinburgh, Newton St. Boswell/Scotland --------------------------------------------------------------------- ScotHeritage@aol.com wrote: > > I have cross posted this answer to a letter I think many will find > interesting. I have removed the content of the letter ecxcept for the

Can anyone tell me if (New) Register House has Secession Church Records for Dalkeith/Inveresk area for the period 1730s-1850s. My WARDLAW line does not appear in Church of Scotland records for this period and I believe that John WARDLAW b 1713 was a strong supporter of the Secession Church. Can anyone give me an email address for General Registry Office in Edinburgh to make enquiries and to make a booking as we shall be in Edinburgh in October for one day only? Judy in Australia jwardlaw@netspace.net.au

Looking for anyone researching the Spittal family. I am looking specifically for Peter Spittal who married Clara Thomson. They emigrated to U.S. (not sure if they married in Scotland or U.S.) and had a son, Peter Wilson Spittal b. c1900 who married Leatha Woodford. Peter and Clara also had a daughter Agnes and sons, William and John. Unfortunately, that's all I know. Thanks Missey Schumacher jimmisschu216@aol.com

Hello Don The full text of this proclamation is as follows: "Wauchope and Carnegie. Captain Robert Wauchope R N. Niddrie House Parish of Libberton and Miss Ann Carnegie residing at Dalry House, daughter of the late Sir James Carnegie have been three times proclaimed in order to marriage and no objections have been offered" I have such a small amount of information to go on at the moment re the CHISHOLMS. Unfortunately all I have re Isabella Chisholm, who married my John BORTHWICK in 1822, is that she lived at No 10 Broughton St, Edinburgh in April 1822 & that her father was Thomas Chisholm, a merchant of Edinburgh, who had died before April 1822. I've kept your list of Chisholms just in case I can connect up later. Thank you for sending it. Ann Carson ----- Original Message ----- From: <DDONMONTAGUE@cs.com> To: <annmacarthurc@ozemail.com.au> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 3:48 AM Subject: Edinburgh List : CHISHOLM > Dear Ann Carson > > first, yes I'd like to know more about the (Capt) Wauchope Hill proclamation, > please - they figure in my Sandeman Genealogy database. Where you can also > find the Chisholm's in the attached file! Any match with yours? > > Kind regards > > Don Montague >

If anyone on the list has ancestors who lived in Brown St, Edinburgh you may be interested in some lovely photos of this street that Angela Lamb so kindly took and emailed to me. At last I've had time to put them all together on a page on my site which you can find at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~anncarson/Borthwick/brownstedinburgh.htm A BIG smiling thank you to you Angela across the cyber waves! Ann Carson (Sydney, Australia) annmacarthurc@ozemail.com.au Researching in Scotland (1700-1850s Lanarkshire, Dumfriesshire, Midlothian, Peeblesshire, Stirling): ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ B O R T H W I C K (descendants of John Borthwick & Elizabeth Dinwoodie of Kirkpatrick Juxta, Moffat, Tweedsmuir, Drumelzier, Biggar) B R O W N (Robert & Jessie, m. Anderston 1867) D I N W O O D I E (Dumfries) L A I N G (Denny, Stirling) L I L L I E (Biggar, Glasgow) Mc (K) N I G H T (Moffat, Glasgow), M E I K L E (Tradeston, Anderston, Hutchesontown) P A T E R S O N (Lanark, Liverpool ENG) Visit my Borthwick website: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~anncarson/

Thankyou to the lister who answered my query regarding my Rutherford family in Edinburgh, 1860's onwards. However they did not post their name so I'll just say hello, The following is all that I have so far:- John Rutherford was born 1831/32 (his birth/christening, I have been unable to locate so far) possibly at Maxton, Roxburghshire. He is living with his parents, Robert Rutherford and Elisabeth Oliver at 29 Thistle Street Edinburgh for the 1861 census, aged 29 yrs and his occupation is listed as a Joiner. John married Isabella Sinclair 24th July 1862 at 24 East cramond Street, Edinburgh after banns according to the terms of the church of Scotland. Isabella Sinclair was a daughter of Alexander Sinclair and Christian Swanson. John and Issabella were to have 9 children. Elizabeth b 28.3.1863 Christina b 27.6.1864 Robert b 24.4.1866 d 1939 (?) Helen Oliver b28.2.1868 Alexander b26.3.1870 John b 30.1.1872 George Oliver b 28.3.1874 d 1875 Isabella b 1876 William b1879 John Rutherford died 26 June 1880 at 58 Broughton Street Edinburgh. Bessie Rutherford his daughter was the informant on his death certificate. John's father Robert, also died in 1880 on the 15th Feb. at N. Brunsfield Place, Edinburgh. Isabella Rutherford nee Sinclair is listed in the 1881 census for Edinburgh as the head and widow and living at 58 Broughton Street. The children listed that night were , Bessie, Christina, Robert, Alexander, John, Isabella, and William. Their daughter Helen was with her Uncle, Oliver Rutherford and his wife Mary on that night. I have not looked up this line of my family in the 1891 census and I am not sure where John and his father Robert were buried. This is all that I have on this branch of my family tree. I would love to hear from the lister who answered my listing and also if there are any descendants from this family out there or anyone researching this family. Regards, from a very unusual warm Christchurch (for a change), Dianne Dixon, New Zealand.