Hello, This is my first post to this list although I have been a subscriber for some time and have followed the list with interest. It seems that there are a lot of generous people doing lookups. Now it's my turn to ask a favour. My Husband's great grandfather,Robert YOUNG, was born in Burutislaud Scotland in 1822. He belonged to the family that owned Young's Brewery in Edinburgh. He married (in Sydney Australia) Mary KEITH, who was born in Edinburgh in 1832. Could some kind person please do a lookup in a Census or other likely source? Grateful thanks, Hilda in Australia.

Robyn I do not know why Scottish Census dates were a day later than the English ones. I just have this info in my notes and have not investigated it further. Does anyone know? For the benefit of other listers, UK Census dates were 1841 June 6/7. 1851 March 30/31 1861 April 7/8 1871 April 2/3 1881 April 3/4 1891 April 5/6 Judy ----- Original Message ----- From: John & Robyn Fulton <fultonjr@bigpond.com> To: Judy Wardlaw <jwardlaw@netspace.net.au> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 5:04 AM Subject: RE: [EDB] census > Thanks Judy, but why the difference. Robyn.

A big thank you to everyone who replied to my census question especially Pearl who gave me a complete list of all dates for future reference. Robyn

A couple of people on this list have sent me mails which I haven't answered due to yet another OE crash. Just too many mails bringing the thing to its knobbly little knees. Anyway, anyone who hasnt had a reply they expected, please resend, off list of course. Sorry to clutter up the list. Judy

the obvious place/s to start are to look in the 1881/1891 censuses for Tobias and/or get hold of his marriage cert - since you mention the church does that mean you already have that info??? Judy ---------- >From: "Gilbert Jennings" <gilbert_jennings@hotmail.com> >To: SCT-EDINBURGH-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [EDB] Jennings/Brogan >Date: Tue, Aug 28, 2001, 8:59 pm > > Tobias JENNINGS born Lanark 1870, moved to Edinburgh 1909 > married Catherine BROGAN at St Patricks Church Edinburgh 1915

Hi, New to the list and family history. I am interested in the following people in Edinburgh. Tobias JENNINGS born Lanark 1870, moved to Edinburgh 1909 married Catherine BROGAN at St Patricks Church Edinburgh 1915 Believed to have been living at Blackfriars Street in 1910 Marriage certificate in 1915 gives address as PottersRow, Edinburgh Known children Robert, Edward (born 1910), Molly, Frank Would like to hear from anyone who has any information about the above or interests in the family. Particulary hoping to find other family members for both Tobias and Catherine. many thanks Gibby _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

Could anyone tell me what month the 1881 census was taken. I have a birth certificate dated May 1848 and a census record of his brother stating age at 34 which would make his birth year 1847. But from the names it does not make sense. The "48 certificate" name is the same as the father. The brother is not named for either grandfather. With thanks Robyn in Sydney where winter has finally arrived.

Hi Judy: I have the same dates for the Scottish & English Census. I think the Census was taken as of the night of eg: 1841 June 6th/7th, 1851 March 30th/31st. I was told, it was anyone in the house as of that night to the next day. If I am wrong, please correct me. Lorraine Ottawa, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy Wardlaw" <jwardlaw@netspace.net.au> To: <SCT-EDINBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 28 August, 2001 19:08 Subject: Re: [EDB] census > Robyn > I do not know why Scottish Census dates were a day later than the English > ones. I just have this info in my notes and have not investigated it > further. Does anyone know? > For the benefit of other listers, UK Census dates were > 1841 June 6/7. > 1851 March 30/31 > 1861 April 7/8 > 1871 April 2/3 > 1881 April 3/4 > 1891 April 5/6 > > Judy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: John & Robyn Fulton <fultonjr@bigpond.com> > To: Judy Wardlaw <jwardlaw@netspace.net.au> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 5:04 AM > Subject: RE: [EDB] census > > > > Thanks Judy, but why the difference. Robyn. > > > > > ==== SCT-EDINBURGH Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from list mode, send a new email to sct-edinburgh-l-request@rootsweb.com and put the word unsubscribe in the message box. Do not add any other words, text, or email addresses to the message. You will receive an email confirmation notice telling you that you are no longer on the mail list. > >

The 1881 census was taken on the 3rd. April. Ann

Hello These marriages were also on the same page from the Parish of St Cuthberts that one of mine was on. These all took place October 3, 1825 unless otherwise stated Hope this might help someone. Lorraine Ottawa, Canada COOK and ORR - William Cook, Cork Cutter, Residing in No 8 Gibbs Entry, Nicolson Street and Alison Orr, Residing in Same Place, both in this Parish, Daughter of the late William Orr, Weaver, Lauder/Lander have been three times proclaimed in order to marriage in the Parish Church of St Cuthberts and no objections have been offered. Married on Fifth, Current by the Rev. Dr William Simpson, one of the Ministers of Edinburgh. MEIKLE and WARDROBE - Thomas Meikle, Upholsterer, Residing in No. 1A St Leonard's Hill and Jean Wardrobe, Residing in No. 52 St Patrick Square, both in this Parish. Daughter of Robert Wardrobe, Weaver in Strathaven, have been three times proclaimed in order to marriage in the Parish Church of St Cuthberts and no objections have been offered. Married on Fourth, Current by the Rev. Patrick Clason, Minister of St Cuthberts Chapel of Ease/Basel (hard to read). McKENZIE and ARBUCKLE - Alexander McKenzie, Joiner, Residing in No.13 Wellington Street and Mary Arbuckle, Residing in No 6, Lynedoch Place, both in this Parish, Daughter of the late Reverend William Arbuckle, Minister of the Parish of North Uist, have been three times proclaimed in order to marriage in the Parish Church of St Cuthberts and no objections have been offered. CUMMINGS and HUGHES - Alexander Cummings, Labourer, Residing at Stanhope Mills and Jean Hughes, Residing at Same Place, both in this Parish. Daughter of the late James Hughes, Labourer, ??revel, have been three times proclaimed in order to marriage in the Parish Church of St Cuthberts and no objections have been offered. Married on the Seventh Current by the Reverend Dr David Dickson one of the Ministers of this Parish. REID and LYON - Alexander Reid, Cabinet Maker, Residing in No. 6 St James Street and Elizabeth Lyon, Residing in Same Place, both in this Parish. Daughter of the late John Lyon, Farmer at Bountfield, Aberdeen, have been three times proclaimed in order to marriage in the Parish Church of St Cuthberts and no objections have been offered.

Hi Margaret: I would think this Wellington Street was in Edinburgh as the marriage said "both of this parish". I went to this site http://www.streetmap.co.uk and found Lyndoch Place and Wellington Street both in Edinburgh so I can only guess these are the places. Would anyone know if these were in St Cuthberts Parish of 1825. I will post the other marriages from the page in case it will help someone. On next message. Many Thanks Lorraine Ottawa, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: <ChristisonMags@aol.com> To: <SCT-EDINBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 27 August, 2001 14:37 Subject: [EDB] Re EDB St Cuthberts Marriage 1825 > Could be Wellington Street on London Road or in Leith as there are two, if > this is any help. > Can anyone help with my problem ? I am looking for John MacDonald Eddington, > stockbrokers clerk in the late 1920's. He lived at either 56 or 65 Nicolson > Street, Edinburgh. An Eddington family are shown living there on the 1891 > Census. But he must have been born later than that. His mother still lived in > the Pottersrow area in the 1950's, I believe. This is the name on my fathers > birth certificate, so I think I have the right name. > I'll keep my fingers crossed! > Margaret > > > ==== SCT-EDINBURGH Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from list mode, send a new email to sct-edinburgh-l-request@rootsweb.com and put the word unsubscribe in the message box. Do not add any other words, text, or email addresses to the message. You will receive an email confirmation notice telling you that you are no longer on the mail list. > >

RELLIES AND SKS help please: reply ONLY if you recognize these associations, not just these surnames. The only polite way I can phrase it is to say it will be a waste of both of our efforts if you are outside this family grouping. It will do neither of us any good to respond just to surnames, because I cannot assist otherwise. You must know and have these definite connections as outlined below and know the connective data. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- MY GREAT GRANDPARENTS William Fraser, [b. abt. 1859, Nairn] m. Mary Ann Swan, [b. June 16, 1863] Aug. 03, 1883, Nairn, Inverness, Scotland. Mary Ann was registered in Drainie but lived in Nairn with William and her family =>Alexander, Kattie, John William, Jessie, Mary]. All of the above has been confirmed. William, lived in Nairn, but accurate registration is not known. Only an 1891 census may sort it out [see further on]. Parents of William are noted below but his whole side of the family is unknown, as per any data. An SKS who can access a marriage certificates, if they are able, could help with the parents. William Fraser [Nairn][complete unknown data] m. Mary Ann Swan [Nairn] August 03, 1888. Lived in Nairn/8 Acre St.. Swans lived on High St., around the corner. MC: 03 August 1888 at Queen Street, Inverness, according to the forms of the C. of S. :William Fraser, age 37, House painter [journeyman], High Street, Nairn, Father: John Fraser, Carter, dec. Mother Jessie Fraser, ms Fraser. Mary Ann Swan, Domestic servant, spinster, Father Daniel Swan, Seaman (merchant service) Mother Mary Swan ms Allan, dec. Witnesses Barbara Corbett John McGillivray. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- THE EXACT CONNECTION TO THE HOUSEs OF GRANT AND PEDDIE IS UNCLEAR BUT ESTABLISHED BELOW. IF YOU CAN ASSIST WITH THE CONNECTIONS THEN YOU WILL BE OF HELP. 1881 Census: ED 95: page 7: 14 Melville Terrace, Edinburgh, St. Cuthbert's, Edinburgh: Elizabeth S[Stewart-Stuart]. Grant head widow 70 Annuitant born Knockando, Elgin Mary A[Ann]. S[Stewart-Stuart]. Peddie Swan dau mar 46 born Elgin John Alla[i]n Swan grand son unm 23 Accountant born Lossiemouth >Mary Ann Swan grand daughter unm 17 born Branderburgh, Elgin Ernest S[Shepherd]. Swan grandson unm Scholar born Inverness Alexander M[Monro]. Swan grand son 8 Scholar born Inverness Martha E[Elizabeth?]. Peddie grand daughter 7 Scholar born Kirkcaldy, Fife David Peddie grandson 2 born Edinburgh Unrelated:Alister Bowman Lodger unm 25 Medical Student born Australia Reginald Bowman Lodger unm 19 Medical Student born Australia William Macansh Lodger unm 22 Medical Student born Australia ------------------------------------------------------------------------- IT US NOT KNOWN IF THE MCLENNANS WERE RELATED OR NOT AT THIS POINT. 1881 Census Nairn ED4 page 1 3 Harbour Street, Nairn: Georgina McLennan head mar 48 born Fodderty Margaret A. McLennan dau housemaid unemployed 17 born Inverness Josephine T. McLennan dau Scholar 16 born Inverness Donald A. McLennan son Scholar 14 born Nairn George John McLennan son Scholar 11 born Nairn Alexander McLennan son Scholar 9 born Nairn Mary McLennan dau Scholar 6 born Nairn Esther McLennan dau 3 born Nairn William Fraser Lodger unm 30 Plumber born Inverness, Inverness Alexander Munro Lodger unm 24 Painter born Inverness, Inverness [these last two would be cousins possibly staying at a relly's home?] ------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Kattie Fraser's b. reg., her father is noted as William Fraser, Painter [journeyman]. He may have switched over from plumbing to painting on the lead of his cousin Alexander. They may have been staying at the rellie's place, the McLennan's and working out of there. MY GREAT GRANDPARENTS 1891 Census Nairn ED8 page 14; Acre Street: William Fraser head married 31(7) Housepainter born Inverness, Inverness Mary Ann [Swan] wife 27 born Lossiemouth, Elgin Kattie dau 2 born Nairn [MY GRANDMOTHER] Mary A. dau 1 born Nairn Alexander A. Swan brother in law 18 Plumber unemployed born Inverness SO-If there is a Swan, whose g-grandmother [or G-G-aunt] was Mary Ann Swan [b. June 16, 1863]/or any of her siblings or lineage, of Nairn, Nairn, Moray, Scotland, then please contact me also. Siblings: John Allan Swan, Neil Alexander Swan, Mary Ann Swan, Daniel Swan, James Wilson Swan, Ernest Shepherd Swan and Alexander Monro Swan. ? ALLAN + ELISABETH [STEWART-STUART] MACLEOD => DONALD-DANIEL SWAN + MARY ALLAN => issue above. Mary ALLAN Sex: F Marriage(s): Spouse: Donald SWAN 5 Dec 1856 Elgin, Moray, Scotland Batch number:/Dates/Source Call No./Type/Printout Call No./Type M111351/1855-1875/6035516 REG/Film/NONE Apparently, a second marriage. James PEDDIE Sex: M Marriage(s): Spouse: Mary ALLAN 9 Oct 1873 Dysart, Fife, Scotland Batch number:/Dates/Source Call No./Type/Printout Call No./Type M114261/1855-1875/6035516 REGISTER/Film/NONE There is also a mention of a GRANT and a STEWART-STUART in the census data being directly related somehow, but not made clear. My grandmother, Kattie Fraser vowed that she was of the house of Stewart-Stuart until she died in 1969. I trust this is helpful and if so, please contact me for swopping info that you have on the rest of the family. Thanking you in advance...Al Dempster ==================================================================== YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM NOT PART OF THE SOLUTION IF YOU DO NOT HAVE ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE INSTALLED AND/OR OPEN UNSCANNED ATTACHMENTS. 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Could be Wellington Street on London Road or in Leith as there are two, if this is any help. Can anyone help with my problem ? I am looking for John MacDonald Eddington, stockbrokers clerk in the late 1920's. He lived at either 56 or 65 Nicolson Street, Edinburgh. An Eddington family are shown living there on the 1891 Census. But he must have been born later than that. His mother still lived in the Pottersrow area in the 1950's, I believe. This is the name on my fathers birth certificate, so I think I have the right name. I'll keep my fingers crossed! Margaret

Could that be Lynedoch Place? (near the Dean Bridge) Judy ---------- >From: "espencer" <espencer@magma.ca> >To: SCT-EDINBURGH-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [EDB] St Cuthberts Marriage 1825 >Date: Mon, Aug 27, 2001, 3:16 am > > Mary's address is given as No. 6 Lyncloch Place

Hi Judy Thank you very much, yes, it does look now like Lynedoch Place. Back then a young lady of age 23/24 didn't go off from North Uist to marry a person without an escort. This is why I would like to find who also lived at this address. Any other ideas, is the place still there. Thanks so much. Lorraine Ottawa, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "J A Olsen" <Copywriter@tesco.net> To: <SCT-EDINBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 27 August, 2001 7:33 Subject: Re: [EDB] St Cuthberts Marriage 1825 > Could that be Lynedoch Place? (near the Dean Bridge) > > > Judy > > > > ---------- > >From: "espencer" <espencer@magma.ca> > >To: SCT-EDINBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: [EDB] St Cuthberts Marriage 1825 > >Date: Mon, Aug 27, 2001, 3:16 am > > > > > Mary's address is given as No. 6 Lyncloch Place > > > ==== SCT-EDINBURGH Mailing List ==== > Need mail list help? Contact Carol Hepburn at chepburn@uswest.net > >

Hello Everyone: I have just joined this List as I have just located a marriage for Mary Arbuckle and Alexander McKenzie in St Cuthberts, Oct. 3, 1825. Mary's address is given as No. 6 Lyncloch Place and it does say both of this Parish. Would anyone know of a way to find out who else was living there at this time. I am hoping to find Mary's brother John Arbuckle as he has been elusive. Alexander McKenzie's address was given as No 13 Wellington Street which was probably in the same area. Any assitance would be appreciated. Lorraine Ottawa, Canada

HI everyone, I am new to this list and have joined as I have some information in some documents I have, that I though might be of interest. They all concern a property lying on the East side of "the street called Saint Leonards Wynd leading from the Cowgate.to the high Pleasants" The first document is dated 29th June 1785 and is for a loan of £300 (a lot of money then!) from Thomas TOD merchant to John MEGGET merchant, I think that the property is perhaps used as security or perhaps the money was to purchase the property? I haven't read it all as it is difficult to follow and goes on for over 5 sides of roughly A4!. The document mentions many people including Patrick (HENRY?) Tobaconist Helen SCOULER of Southfield widow of Robert Hunter officer of excise John CRAWFORD stabler James DUN Duncan MacFARLANE Robert SIMPSON John SIMPSON mason William THOMSON James LIBBERTON William SCOULER tanner in Pleasence The second document is dated 14th July 1796 and is to discharge the loan. The 3rd documnent dated 1820 is a"Disposition and Afsignation by Mary STRATTON in favour of Peter FERGUSON. The 4th document is dated 1845 and is a "Charter of Resignation by City of Edinburgh in favour of James FERGUSON Pawnbroker only son of Peter FERGUSON. If you think any information relates to families you are researching then I will examine them more closely and give you further details. Hope this proves of interest. Regards Derek Ive Gosport England derekive@tiscali.co.uk Researching - IVE (London/Bucks) WHIPPS(Oxford) GRAVESTOCK(London/Beds) Derek Ive

Relisting for viewing for new subscibers Researching OGILVY **** We have David OGILVY (Painter) of Edinburgh who married Catharina Spence on 2nd July 1801 at Tolbooth Church Parish Edinburgh---David lived at "Burnet's Close, House 312 Lawnmarket Edinburgh" (as according to the Post Office Annual Directory 1820-1821). David and Catharina had a son David Ogilvy born 1804 who did his apprenticeship at The Signet Law Firm Edinburgh starting on 26th July 1832, graduated to Solicitor and in 1839 was appointed by the British Government as Crown Solicitor in Australia..All we have on Catharina's father John SPENCE of Edinburgh that he was a painter too!.**** We have a copy of David/Catharina's marriage certificate and postal registers from which we obtained the information as shown above. *************With the help of a Kind Lister who found for us four OGILVY'S which do appear to be ours; they are William Spence OGILVY b 28/12/1806, Catharine OGILVY b 16/12/1808, Thomas Davidson OGILVY b 1/10/1813 and Catharine Ogilv! y b 7/3/1811. showing their Father David OGILVY and mother Catharine Mrs SPENCE.******** ********Cencus shows for Thomas Davidson Ogilvy "Dwelling: 11 Lothian St Census Place: Edinburgh Canongate, Edinburgh, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0224005 GRO Ref Volume 685-4 EnumDist 38 Page 6 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Thomas Davidson OGILVY U 68 M Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Annuitant********* , Would like someone who has access to the Census for this period to look for further information on the Ogilvy's!. We now also at a standstill at the brick wall trying to locate or find the further details of David/Chatarina's parents! Any suggestions!!!!!! Regards Colin Darby Australia colnet@optusnet.com.au --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.273 / Virus Database: 143 - Release Date: 16/08/2001

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I want to acquire a copy of "A Directory of Land Ownership circa 1770", edited by Loretta R Timperley in 1976. If anyone can tell me where I can obtain a copy or the name of a good bookshop in Edinburgh that sells old books (name address and/or email) I would very much appreciate it. Judy Melbourne, Australia