OGILVY****UPDATE***** From a kind lister we have now another son for David and Catharina=== Alexander OGILVY born 17/11/1802 to David Ogilvy and Catherina Spence and a possible father and mother for the family of David Ogilvy (Catharina Husband) Alexander Ogilvy and Janet Aberdour from LDS showing they had a David born 9/4/1770 Edin. Parish????****** Have ant Listers a connection???? _____________________________________________________________________________________________________ ******Relisting the information below*******We have David Ogilvy (Painter) of Edinburgh who married Catharina Spence on 2nd July 1801 at Tolbooth Church Parish Edinburgh--- David Lived at "Burners Close, House 312, Lawnmarket Edinburgh" (as according to the Post Office Annual Directory 1820 - 1821). David and Catharina had a son David Ogilvy who did his apprenticeship at the Signet Law Firm Edinburgh starting on 26th July 1832, graduated to Solicitor and in 1839 was appointed buy the British Government as Crown Solicitor in Australia. All we have on Catharina's father John Spence of Edinburgh and that he was a Painter too!. ****We have a copy of David/Catharina's marriage certificate and postal register from which we obtained the information as shown above***********With the help of a kind Lister who found for us four Ogilvy's which do appear to be ours, they are William Spence OGILVY b 28/12/1806, Catharine OGILVY b 16/12/1808, Thomas Davidson OGILVY b 1/10/1813 and Cathar! ine OGILVY b 7/3/1811 and records! showing Catharine Mrs Spence***** Census shows for Thomas Davidson OGILVY "Dwelling 11 Lothian St. Census Place, Edinburgh, Scotland source FHL Film 0224005 GRO Ref Volume 685-4 EnumDis 38 Page 6 Marr Age Sex Birthplace. Birthplace Thomas Davidson OGILVY U 68 M Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Head Occ.Annuitant. We are looking for information on parents for David OGILVY (Painter) and Catharina SPENCE. Yes we are at the brick wall with them!! For My Ogilvy Web Site Click on http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ogdar/Ogilvy/ogilvy/ogilvy/ Regards, Colin Darby Australia colnet@optusnet.com.au --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.286 / Virus Database: 152 - Release Date: 9/10/2001

Hi Listers, I am trying to trace my great great grandmother Sarah Ann ARTINGSTALL . She is on the 1881 census married to James Holland and living in droylsden Manchester but states that she was born in Edinburgh. I have also found her on the 1851 census in the same area. She would have been born around 1830. I realise that the name Artingstall is not a Scottish name but I am at a loss as to where to look for her birth. Can any one help me. thanks brenda brtj@optusnet.com.au western Australia

Hello listersl Is there anyone who can look up a family for me on the 1871 census records. I'm trying to narrow down my search for the following family (who were living at 6 Sunnybank Place, South Leith, Edinburgh on the 1881 census) . William ROBERTSON, 37, a railway engine drive, born in Berwick on Tweed Isabella ROBERTSON, 37, wife, born in Berwick on Tweed Adam ROBERTSON, 12, son, born in Berwick on Tweed Alexander ROBERTSON, 6, son, Berwick on Tweed William ROBERTSON, 3, son, Berwick on Tweed Much thanks to anyone who can help. Dawn.

you can now search the Scots origins indices for free. not much of a concession for the names I am looking for (eg MITCHELL), but helpful for a less common name like this. all you will get is the number of records in each category, and of course for pre 1837 dates you will not be getting the non Church of Scotland churches, but heck, you might get lucky. Remember to search for every variant you can think of (and to use wildcards if the search engine accepts them) Judy ---------- >From: "terence stevens" <brtj@optusnet.com.au> >To: SCT-EDINBURGH-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [EDB] artingstall >Date: Thu, Oct 18, 2001, 11:50 am > > Hi Listers, > I am trying to trace my great great grandmother Sarah Ann ARTINGSTALL . > She is on the 1881 census married to James Holland and living in droylsden > Manchester but states that she was born in Edinburgh. I have also found her > on the 1851 census in the same area. She would have been born around 1830. > I realise that the name Artingstall is not a Scottish name but I am at a > loss as to where to look for her birth. > Can any one help me. > thanks > brenda > brtj@optusnet.com.au > western Australia > > > ==== SCT-EDINBURGH Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from list mode, send a new email to > sct-edinburgh-l-request@rootsweb.com and put the word unsubscribe in the > message box. Do not add any other words, text, or email addresses to the > message. You will receive an email confirmation notice telling you that > you are no longer on the mail list. > >

Having a break, be back later Sue Australian Dreamtime Searchers Genealogy Club http://australiadreamtimesearchers.freeservers.com/Index.html contact mosessue@tpg.com.au contact aurora@multiline.com.au BAINES - Uppingham Rutland BLACKWELL - Henry Charles c 1918 - could be anywhere ADAMSON - Scotland-Australia-US LOWTH - Lincolnshire Eng. JOYCE - Sth Australia

Hi! Mary Anne, If I may be so bold, its not a very good idea to give out personal addresses or phone numbers on a public email such as this, for obvious reasons. Eleanor

I have just sent an email to the National Archives of Scotland. I got two automated replies, one of which is a general guide to research in Scotland. It covers all the bases and I think would be helpful to all new researchers and quite a lot of more experienced listers, especially those dipping their toes in Scottish waters for the first time. It's quite lengthy so I am not going to forward it to the list but any query to this address: enquiries@nas.gov.uk Will get you a copy. You could simply say: I am sending this email in order to get your standard automated response - that would do the trick. happy hunting Judy

Would there someone on the list living in Edinburgh who would be ale to undertake a small search request for me. I would be happy to pay for any out of pocket expenses. I have been helping a friend find families of a crew of a lancaster Bomber shot down in 1944. All the crewmembers are buried in France.I have been trying to trace the family of John George Turnbull and his wife Rubina Moyes Turnbull. From the internet I have found an address for a Rubina Turnbull at 7 Broomhouse Row, Edinburgh EH 113 RE. the phone number given is 131 443 8090. However we cannot get any answer on the phone when we dial .Any assistance would be gratefully accepted. Mary Anne Gourley

have you tried 011 441 31 and then the number?? pat ex resident of edinburgh ----- Original Message ----- From: Mary Anne <maryanne@accordit.com.au> To: <SCT-EDINBURGH-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 1:02 AM Subject: Help with occupant of House > Would there someone on the list living in Edinburgh who would be ale to undertake a small search request for me. I would be happy to pay for any out of pocket expenses. > I have been helping a friend find families of a crew of a lancaster Bomber shot down in 1944. All the crewmembers are buried in France.I have been trying to trace the family of John George Turnbull and his wife Rubina Moyes Turnbull. From the internet I have found an address for a Rubina Turnbull at 7 Broomhouse Row, Edinburgh EH 113 RE. the phone number given is 131 443 8090. However we cannot get any answer on the phone when we dial .Any assistance would be gratefully accepted. > Mary Anne Gourley > > ______________________________

Hello everyone; Is there SKS in Edinburgh who would be able to email a photo of the Scottish Land Court building, and its emblem if it has one, to me? Thanks in advance, -- Ian Russell Ottawa, CAN

I am looking for information on the Sinclair and Armstrong families in Edinburgh from the early 1800s. James Sinclair (b about 1826) married Jane Armstrong (b. about 1827) on 5th. November 1852. James's parents were John Sinclair and Jean Johnston, and Jane's parents were William Armstong and Jane Brown. James and Jane Sinclair had 7 children:- John 1855, William 1857, Jane 1859, James 1861, George 1863, Helen 1866 (my grandmother) and Susan 1868. I would like to find any other descendents from these families and also any earlier generations. Doreen

HELLOOO ! IS ANYBODY OUT THERE ? ? ! Hello Everyone ? Am I writing to myself ??!! I am hoping to make contact with descendents of the following MURRAY or HAZEL families, details are from the 1881 census. Holly Lodge, Edinburgh St. Cuthberts. ROBERT MURRAY, age 58, born Edinburgh, civil engineer, EMILY L. MURRAY, age 55, born Maidstone in Kent, wife. I know EMILY's maiden name was HAZELL. ROBERT & EMILY had a daughter LILLA MURRAY, born Malta about 1852 or 53. EMILY had a sister LOUISA H. HAZELL, also born Maidstone. In 1871 she was unmarried and 45 years old. Note this is 1871 not 1881 census. I would like to know if ROBERT & EMILY MURRAY were still alive in 1891, and who their daughter LILLA married ? I don't have the 1881 census, which might find LILLA if she wasn't married by then. Best wishes to All, Genny.

i am new on the list and would appreciate any information which could add to the following regarding John Stevenson and the members of his family. Eunice Smith Edinburgh -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Stevenson (a physician and at that time probably a resident of Ayr) married Marion Rodger (born 23 October 1699, Galston, Ayr - daughter of Andrew Rogers) on 20th February 1724. They had the following children:- Alexander (b. 24 September, 1727, Ayr) - became a physician (Glasgow)? Rodger (b. 9 November 1729, Edinburgh) - became a physician (Edinburgh)? Juliana (b. 24 May, 1731, Galston). There may have been at least one other son James. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marion may have returned to her family home for the births and that is why some of the children were born in Ayrshire. The place of birth of their son Rodger (1729) being Edinburgh implies that by 1729 they may have been resident in Edinburgh. It is known that John Stevenson was in Edinburgh in 1738 and concerned with the Infirmary. . John Stevenson had some contact with Chevalier Ramsay, the tutor of Bonnie Prince Charlie (probably in the early 1720s) but in 1745 sat with a musket in the High Street of Edinburgh in order to defend Edinburgh Castle against the self-same gentleman! He went "on a professional visit to Dumfries" in 1740 - for what reason? I have my suspicions but would like some proof!. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- END of Message

Relisting my researching for OGILVY**** We have David Ogilvy (Painter) of Edinburgh who married Catharina Spence on 2nd July 1801 at Tolbooth Church Parish Edinburgh--- David Lived at "Burners Close, House 312, Lawnmarket Edinburgh" (as according to the Post Office Annual Directory 1820 - 1821). David and Catharina had a son David Ogilvy who did his apprenticeship at the Signet Law Firm Edinburgh starting on 26th July 1832, graduated to Solicitor and in 1839 was appointed buy the British Government as Crown Solicitor in Australia. All we have on Catharina's father John Spence of Edinburgh and that he was a Painter too!. ****We have a copy of David/Catharina's marriage certificate and postal register from which we obtained the information as shown above***********With the help of a kind Lister who found for us four Ogilvy's which do appear to be ours, they are William Spence OGILVY b 28/12/1806, Catharine OGILVY b 16/12/1808, Thomas Davidson OGILVY b 1/10/1813 and Catharine ! OGILVY b 7/3/1811. Looking for information within Scotland on David and Catharina such as mother/father/family , Regards, Colin Darby Australia colnet@optusnet.com.au --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.282 / Virus Database: 150 - Release Date: 25/09/2001

1900 No NICOL but James Bell NICOLL at Tynecastle - chapel of ease for St Michaels. Ordination date 1891. Church of Scotland. Still there in 1911 And in 1921, when it seems to have become a Quod Sacra Parish (and no, I dont know what that means! But someone else will) I only checked Church of Scotland and the United Free Church. The ordination date, I have always taken to mean the date the man became a minister, but others have suggested it is the date he was ordained to the parish. If your man is Church of Scotland he should be in a book called the "fasti' which will give full details. You could phone up the Church of Scotland in Edinburgh too, they are in the BT phonebook. Judy ---------- >From: "John Noden" <jderek@noden99.freeserve.co.uk> > Could someone tell me where I might find a list of ministers in the > Edinburgh area from around the 1900's- 1940's? > > My great-great aunt spoke of a Rev. NICOL from Edinburgh and I believe he > would have been a relative. She was Elizabeth NICOL (Lizzie) from > Lanark. >

Could someone tell me where I might find a list of ministers in the Edinburgh area from around the 1900's- 1940's? My great-great aunt spoke of a Rev. NICOL from Edinburgh and I believe he would have been a relative. She was Elizabeth NICOL (Lizzie) from Lanark. Researching:- CHRISTIE - Edinburgh and Lanark DICK - Edinburgh NICOL - Bathgate and Lanark MAXWELL - Lanark SMITH - Lanark Carole, Kent, England

Hi, Is there anyone who has access to Edinburgh register house that could check info for me? I'm looking for a marriage between john Joseph Leheny and Mary Brown, married in the Catholic chapel in Berwick upon Tweed on 19th of May 1871. I need to know who their parents were. I'm assuming that Berwick upon tweed was part of Scotland at this point but if it wasn't could someone please tell me so that I can write to the proper list. thank you, Julie

Can someone tell me if there are any searchable trade directories such as White's or Pigot's on line anywhere for Edinburgh? I'm trying to narrow down my search for Robert BURCH, a sadler. He was listed in the Pigot's Trade directory in 1844 in Woodbridge, Suffolk, but disappeared after that. His son, William, also a sadler, was living in St. Giles, Edinburgh in 1869 and then in Portobello until his death. I'm wondering if William's parents and family might have moved to Edinburgh sometime between 1844 and 1869, and perhaps might be listed in a trade directory. They lived in the Joppa/Portobello area. Or should I perhaps be tackling the census records for 1861, 1871 for that area? Thanks to anyone who can advise me. Dawn, southern CA, USA

Some of us have ancestors who conformed to The Naming Pattern and some of us don't. I am therefore reminded of one of my late father's favourite quotations: "There was no thought of pleasing thee when he/she was christened!" However, strict adherence or no, there is often some clue among the names; even the opposite way, i.e. you find they conform to someone else's names & can be ruled out. Happy hunting! Sheena Ireland

Hello All Iam looking for John MacDonald Eddington who lived at 65 Nicolson Street from birth ( 1890-99 possibly) until at least 1925, He was a stockbrokers clerk and may have had a twin brother. His mother still lived in the Potterrow area in the early 30's. Do you know of this family? John was my gfather. With thanks margaret